M21 vs SVD - Sniper Duel - Panama 1989!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ย. 2024
- We are traveling in time today to Panama in 1989!
December 20th, US invasion of the Panama starts now!
With winds up to 31 Mph, this is going to epic matchup between: M21 Sniper rifle (M1A NM) with the original military issued ART II scope, and SVD (Сна́йперская Винто́вка систе́мы Драгуно́ва - Dragunov's Sniper Rifle System) with PSO1 type scope!
Both rifles shoot at the same targets at the same time!
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First of all, great work on the new channel I’m really enjoying it!
I think it would be fun for you to have a guest shooter who is as competent as you are to run the one of the other rifles (wife, kids, friends or whoever you think would work). Other than for bragging rights you could also have a little bet or something to raise the stakes.
Given, an equality of semi auto platforms for comparison, wasn't the m21 obsolete post Vietnam?
@@TheDoorspook11c M21 actually stayed in the service past Gulf War. So it relatively had a good run. M24 came in officially on the books late 1988 , but fielding was rather slow…
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This channel is great. I didn’t think you could outdo the AKM tortures, but I just love the subject matter. Great job…..
Thank you for watching and please help us spread the word about VRSC!!!
The old way was ok, this new format is better. Shows what both rifles are capable of at all ranges.
Awesome! Thank you Leon for your feedback. I agree, I think this new format it's the "keeper".
I also like that the rifles are shot in the same environmental conditions vs. if they were shot on different days
What a great spotting camera! Not only can we see the vapor trail but I can see the round 450yds out.
I am an M21 shooter. I modified it a few years ago, taking off the ART glass, mounting a different scope and replacing the original stock with an Archangel stock. The difference was dramatic. Immediately after laser bore sighting it I shot three keyhole shots with Silver Bear ammo with a YHM suppressor at 100 yards. I couldn't believe it. With match ammo it is incredible. Rob, love all your videos. Thanks for your work.
I have to say, I have used the M1A for decades and I went from a Leupold to M1000 ART and standard stock and didn't notice any change. I like the Leatherwood optics so much I put a M1200 Pro on my 6.5 Creedmoor AR 10 and have several Hi Lux 2.5-10x on other rifles (including my 6.5 Grendel AR 15).
I like the new format even more than the old! It's more fun to watch both rifles and compare the two side by side. What a great video. Thanks Rob!
Love the new format. Rob your wife is a Superstar behind the camera and I like how she calls ya out to redeem or push you farther.
Ola kept raising the Barr.
I'm way behind watching this, but its very cool to see !! Great comparison.
👍 Thanks Mr + Mrs Robski 👍
I have been shooting long range for 30yrs and I am blessed with my own 800yd range to shoot at. This video proves that the range of the target is the easy part. The wind is the one thing that gets me when it comes to missing my full size targets. I am not a sniper by no means but I can relate to your frustration when it comes to shooting in crazy wind conditions. But I go no matter what the wind is because it is good practice even though some times the results are not great. I know you feel better after making those last hits, you will be in a better mood tonight. Great shooting.
Exactly right. Wind will make or break you! No mercy. And wind doesn't care...it will move that bullet like a feather...
I used to really dislike shooting on windy days and would purposely avoid it but since I've gotten into competing in PRS I've had no choice in the shooting conditions department. A match goes on no matter what and now I don't let the wind bother me. Just hold that wind and send it. lol
To me, that's where the shooting is at,, if not for wind it would be who can hold on the bull and pull the trigger, but the art is in hold over for wind.
Thank you for posting this one, I've been chomping at the bit to see those two legendary icons duke it out! It goes to show that these rifles and many others like them are fully capable of making hits at those extended ranges, it ultimately comes down to the skill level of the individual who's behind them. Enjoyed this tremendously, keep up the good work and am looking forward to seeing more! 👍
Hi Rob, like you new format. With all the new CNC manufacturing done these day it is really nice to see the older guns come out to play, Guns made by men with skills that date way back and guy's like you that don't let us forget.
I love how you show what really happened and didn't re-do the missed shots awesome video
Ha! Yes, this is "Live TV". Shit happens. I'm not perfect, this is life. I'm glad you liked the video!
@@VintageRiflesShootersClub when you read off your cam adjustment number I was saying that's not right,, lol
It always amazes me how much harder my PSL hits than my M1A... I absolutely love the 7.62x54r! I love your videos and enthusiasm. Great shooting Rob! Enjoyed the side by side shoot.
Fantastic format!
Love the contest between to 2 iconic weapons!
Looking forward to more.
This format is definitely better! I love it. Great episode! Excellent camera work too Ula! (sp?)
Thank you for the feedback. I agree, I think we will keep that approach!
Outstanding video! The new format is great. Really nice to see both rifles in use in equal conditions.
Absolutely terrific comparison! Two of my favorite rounds and rifles head to head! Very nice!!!! 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
This is such a great match up. These two guns have alot in common. And comparing them like this was very interesting.
Yep! The new "tweaked" format is better and now we can watch both "contenders" side by side in one video! Great work so far! The new channel is a great addition to the AKOU channel and of course I subscribed!👍👍👍
Love this channel. its great seeing different rifles from history and how they perform by themselves and against others from the same timeframe.
Thank you ,this was a great weapon and human test. With these conditions. You always prevail. Please have a great New Year!!. Now going to find BM-59 on range.
Panama is looking very cold Robski!
Like the new format! It shows that both rifles are great and it boils down to the shooter.
Definitely a view of the targets through the scope would be a high-grade addition to the series 👌🏻
Yes it was very enjoyable to watch.
Wow… excellent video!!! I really like the new format!
YES.. I’ve always wished that
both rifles would have to
engage each target. As alway,
thank you and Ula for these
truly enjoyable and informative videos!👍🏽
Love the new format!!
This just goes to show you that in the right hands, either one of these old war horses would be lethal. Great video Rob. Keep up the good work.
Love the format, fun to see them side by side like that!
Thanks as always for the video. I like both formats. This format definitely shows the guns in an equal light. Your commentary on the other format is funnier though. I appreciate both equally. Thanks again for the videos!
Great video ! Thank you, I love old sniper rifles!
Awesome shooting Rob in tough conditions!! I really enjoy this channel!
I just discovered this channel and I will be watching all of them. Nice compliment to the operators union! Please keep it up!
Really like the new format! Thanks guys.
Awesome! I'm going to keep that format for sure!
Great shooting under very tough conditions! Love those SVD'S, wish we could have them here
This is definitely one of my favorite channels. Love the content and especially this video. The M-21 and SVD are both favorite weapon systems of mine and it’s interesting to finally see a side by side comparison. It’d be interesting to see the SVD go up against an M-110.
The two systems are worlds apart. (We all, including you, know that. lol) It's amazing the accuracy that is being attained out of semi autos. They'll probably never shoot as tight as a bolt gun but they are closing in on them.
@@oif3vetk9 uhhh boss m110 is also a semi auto
@@oif3vetk9 The M-110 is definitely worlds apart from the SVD, but both rifles, actually all 3 of you include the M-14 EBR, we’re used in Iraq and Afghanistan. I would say the M-110 is almost as accurate or just as accurate as a bolt gun depending on who’s shooting it.
new technology vs old if that is where the M110 AR platform will be the better platform because of new improvements.
@@Ranger4321 The M-14 EBR did amazing work in Afghanistan. I saw many great shots made there. Seen a 800 yard shot from a friend hit a enemy combatant who was patrolling with a AK. He was dead on( excuse the pun) That old warhorse with alittle new parts was lethal to all of America's enemies
I absolutely love watching these videos. I love your enthusiasm. These videos are so relaxing. When I go to the Range, I turn off the phone and I get to focus on one thing. Your videos are like a virtual range trip. Keep these videos coming
Great idea shooting both rifle at the same session!
I love how you keep us watching, by writing "don't go yet, there is more".
Lol, thank you for watching Doug. It was thanks to Ula who kept challenging me more and more. And I'm honestly I'm glad she did!
Great video, the new format is much better, keep it up. Would appreciate if you, sometime in the future, made a separate video on the ART II.
Thank you for the feedback! And yes, Since I filmed that video, I have learned some new tricks about ART II scope. I know what happened at 450 and 500. At some point I will do video about the ART II scope / M21 rifle - how to set it up, zero it and etc. There are some small tricks and tips associated with this system which is not covered in the US Army manual...
@@VintageRiflesShootersClub Thank you Rob. I've never shot it and only held it in my hands once, almost 30 years ago but I've always found the concept interesting and I'd very much like to hear your opinion.
@@VintageRiflesShootersClub that will be EXCELLENT ra nge info for virginal longe range converts. THANKYA. Muchly ROB-san and wife.
Great video, love the format
These are very entertaining, continue with the unedited shooting, its the only way to go.Thumbs up
MAN! Do I love your videos....errr Content! 😮 Your marksmanship is great. I love your and Ula's accent. Hope that's not offensive to you guys . Since you spent time in Ft. Benning, my neck of the woods so to speak you can think back and imagine my accent. In addition to the visuals I really like the comments as well. I always seem to learn a lot. Especially from your responses. Im just sorry you have to endure the mean spirited ones and man there were some really uncalled for ones in this one. Anyway PLEASE keep posting these entertaining and informative videos 😊. Endeavor to persevere.
Thank you Charles!
I like seeing the two rifles, shooting in the same conditions, WELL done!
That SVD is Beautiful. I'd take it anyday.
Very enjoyable. Seeing these great rifles go head to head with your commentary on the rifles, cartridges, and optics is informative.
Enjoyed these shoot offs! Marksmanship is a true art of all the given variables.
A shootout of M16 AND SKS is on my wish list.
I really like this format seeing both rifles at the same time. I also think it's great that your wonderful wife keeps challenging you. That wind was real for sure. In the slow motion I could really see the drift in the bullet trace.
Rob to see this shoot out. Makes me smile.🙂
Thank you, I love the M-14,M-21 rifles, thank you for your service, happy New year.
i had a comment but after stopping the video and enlarging, i see you were in fact using the M118's. Great shooting tex.
Love the new concept....see both in action is great
Great video *** We need another rematch after you better learn the M21 Art II scope ... Thanks !
This is great. So cool seeing the slow motion bullet flying down range. Sub'd!
Nice video, good format! Your positive vibes is lovely!
I love this series! Please continue to make more (Sniper/Infantry/Special Units etc.) Guns @ War. Very entertaining.
It's like Football or any sport Teams, but with Rifles! Keep up the good work.
My company jumped in to Panama but I ets'd a couple months prior. I'm sure the snipers had the M21. One of my brothers went to the XVIII Abn. corp sniper school and he used it. Great channel, and good shootin!
Love the new format Rob! I think a good addition would be some still shots of each target at distance through the scope, help really put us into the video
Excellent shooting, given the wind. What round were you using in the M21? Is the rifle about the same as a Match M1A or does it have other tweaks?
Suggestion. I think you missed low with the ART scope most of the time today. Perhaps you should refine the cam adjustment up past 400yards or so. Thank you for what you do.
Our M21’s cams in Vietnam were set up for the M118 Special Ball 173 grain. There was another cam for the M80. Excellent video. But as stated, from the beginning the M21 was shooting low. Cam/Scope should have been calibrated.
I love this series. Rob Ski Rocks!!!
Excellent shooting as always sir .
Love the new format....I need to learn to shoot like you!
You are a funny dude. But you got nice rifles and you're a damn good shot. Nice job (-; Plus your video editing is very good.
Just discovered your channel... I know this is an old video, but I've watched a bunch and every one is awesome! Don't change a thing.
You crack me up🤣 … very funny guy, quality video as always👌
hey, rob I would love to see a video with the mosin pu and the k98 sniper. Also maybe could you show the rounds and grains that you will be using for each gun? Just some possible tips if you like them. Great video!
That's a nice pattern on the uniform. It looks like the old British DPM. So lo'g gone now. Great upload really exciting. Thanks
Nice job! I prefer this format with the two rifles side by side.
I really like the new format as well love the channel
Watching you and your videos is great fun und very instructing! Thanks!
great shooting in the conditions. keep them comming
Yeah, this wind was something else. You can literally see how bullet traces are bending / curving sideways from it! ha!
@@VintageRiflesShootersClub im just amazed how you can make the adjustments, with modern gear i still find reading the wind SO HARD, keep the videos comming rob.
Really interesting! I agree with switching which rifle shoots 1st at a target to compensate for getting wind dope. Would love to see you and Harry from 9 Hole do a shoot off one day!
I just found this channel. It's great. Thanks for the content
I like the new format 👍👍👍
New Format is very cool RobSki 😎
SVD with a better scope man, you're unstoppable
This new format is great. Very entertaining.
I like seeing both rifles shot, great new adoption to the channel
I love watching those rounds go down range. That’s really cool. It’s an even bigger kick in the pants to watch one of those big 155 howitzers fire some thing down range.
great shooting Doping the wind is paramount at those longer ranges. This is a great teaching point for shooters!
I like the new format! Could you just mention what loads you are using (brand/grain/bullet type) at the beginning of the video? Would be awesome for us with some of these rifles! Thanks!
My two favorite guns in the world ! what a treat .
Two of the Panamanian armories that we went into had the new M24 SWS while we were still carrying the M21.....I never actually saw an SVD the entire time that we were there....
that was all fun! love the format!
Like the format!
Was wondering about ammunition specs for both rifles? Winds holds likely made the hits most difficult at 30+ MPH. That said... M1A NM using a specified original ARTII... I noticed the hits went down for both at the distant targets. Noticeably... the M1A 'system' hiccupped first despite second shot sequencing advantages. Struggling shots where falling low. My best guess is the cams may not be optimized to particular load which would make significant influences to first hit challenges at the greater ranges. Fun shoot and format Rob!!!
Love the Channel brother. God bless you and your family. Keep up the great work. 😀👍
The SVD is a feared weapon. The PDF were armed with it. I was a primary target, I carried the M-60.
Some of the PDF could shoot pretty good, we use our M-60 on the Bridge of America when the PDF Try to crossing.
Great video and i love all of these kind of videos
That 54R packs a punch! 👍
RKB of Sof built a M70 bullbarrel in .338 Win Mag with the ART scope on, would be interesting to see in use , or even better .375HH with 250 Sierra GK loaded ala Federal Premium load it .
Loving the videos Rob! You're killing it as always! When is the g43 video coming?
Very nice shooting. I do love the classics.
whoa! America, I love how much fun your having! i know i get excited about shooting to!
A very interesting duel.
Great video. Love these
Yes ! It's about time.
Awesome job, great comparison, and shooting
That NDM86 is a beauty. Love the look of the SVD and PSL rifles. Maybe you can call your contact at Palmetto and tell them to make a PSL since it will be faster, easier, and cheaper than their SVD clone.
Great format!
Thanks! I like that better too!
You have the best stuff on this channel.