I don't think I made this clear, but I used Debian Sid/Unstable and Trixie/Testing as a sort of proof of concept. You shouldn't expect Unstable and Testing setups to always work because they are there for testing purposes. What I didn't say in the video was that the correct packages needed for compute with Intel Arc GPUs are being tested for Debian, and hopefuly, they will be available in the stable repo in the coming months/Debian point releases.
Wow, what a clusterf...un :D Regarding that 32bit, you should be able to have both 32bit and 64bit (also called multilib) on your system. Though I can't say the specifics. Steam is notorious for being 32 bit, still. Though, now that I think of, how the hell did they embedded a chromium instance there ? Did they manually made that 32 bit too ? Though it's maybe simply another process. Anyway, I don't know if I said it already, so excuse me if I'm repeating. I feel like with so much hassle, it might be easier to install it from scratch. And using Gentoo or Arch might be easier. I do lean in favor of Gentoo because it has this customization at compile level streamlined. If you remember the problems that OBS had some time ago on Arch and I think on other distros too, because it was packaged differently and some plugins were missing for some ? Yeah, there's no such nonsense in Gentoo, you can choose exactly and easily what you want in or out. So I'm thinking that if Blender for Intel has very specific dependencies, managing them yourself should be easiest. That is, you to install exactly what you need, without hoping that the OS does it for you, and also to hope that the OS doesn't have something bad/uncompatible/subpar and having to bend backwards to change/replace that. That's why I was thinking of Gentoo. But I am well aware that it's not for the faint of heart. And even among those that aren't scared by it, it's still not exactly popular. But it gives the most freedom of customization from the mainstream / popular distros.
So the whole 32bit thing only happens on Ubuntu Jammy (24.xx) and Distro versions derived from Ubuntu Jammy (such as Linux Mint 21.4). This is because, from what I saw, Intel only supported Ubuntu 22.04 as the only non enterprise release with Arc/Xe compute packages, which were put of tree/out of sync from any of Ubuntu’s repos (I warn about this in my OpenVINO Stable Diffusion guide). Ubuntu 24.04 and other distros no longer have this problem, which I’ll talk about in my next video.
@@Winnetou17 up until recently, its made installing a lot of things very painful, even if using that repo didnt result in not being able to install other packages on a system.
I don't think I made this clear, but I used Debian Sid/Unstable and Trixie/Testing as a sort of proof of concept. You shouldn't expect Unstable and Testing setups to always work because they are there for testing purposes. What I didn't say in the video was that the correct packages needed for compute with Intel Arc GPUs are being tested for Debian, and hopefuly, they will be available in the stable repo in the coming months/Debian point releases.
Thanks for all the Linux Intel Arc videos!
what would be the distro with the best out of the box experience with intel arc?
It's kinda hard for me to pick one, especially since functionality is seemingly all over the place.
when we get fan speed control ?
I'd like to know we when get this sort of stuff too
Wow, what a clusterf...un :D
Regarding that 32bit, you should be able to have both 32bit and 64bit (also called multilib) on your system. Though I can't say the specifics. Steam is notorious for being 32 bit, still. Though, now that I think of, how the hell did they embedded a chromium instance there ? Did they manually made that 32 bit too ? Though it's maybe simply another process.
Anyway, I don't know if I said it already, so excuse me if I'm repeating. I feel like with so much hassle, it might be easier to install it from scratch. And using Gentoo or Arch might be easier. I do lean in favor of Gentoo because it has this customization at compile level streamlined. If you remember the problems that OBS had some time ago on Arch and I think on other distros too, because it was packaged differently and some plugins were missing for some ? Yeah, there's no such nonsense in Gentoo, you can choose exactly and easily what you want in or out.
So I'm thinking that if Blender for Intel has very specific dependencies, managing them yourself should be easiest. That is, you to install exactly what you need, without hoping that the OS does it for you, and also to hope that the OS doesn't have something bad/uncompatible/subpar and having to bend backwards to change/replace that.
That's why I was thinking of Gentoo. But I am well aware that it's not for the faint of heart. And even among those that aren't scared by it, it's still not exactly popular. But it gives the most freedom of customization from the mainstream / popular distros.
So the whole 32bit thing only happens on Ubuntu Jammy (24.xx) and Distro versions derived from Ubuntu Jammy (such as Linux Mint 21.4). This is because, from what I saw, Intel only supported Ubuntu 22.04 as the only non enterprise release with Arc/Xe compute packages, which were put of tree/out of sync from any of Ubuntu’s repos (I warn about this in my OpenVINO Stable Diffusion guide). Ubuntu 24.04 and other distros no longer have this problem, which I’ll talk about in my next video.
@@CompellingBytes Interesting. Also a bit of headache inducing to trace all of this.
@@Winnetou17 up until recently, its made installing a lot of things very painful, even if using that repo didnt result in not being able to install other packages on a system.