These are the stages that people go through when making indie games. We've all been there. And its way harder on some of us than others... discord - / discord
My 5 stages of Developer burnout: 1. Gets excited and started watching tutorials 2. Tries to copy exact same thing from tutorial 3. Recieves unexpected fatal error 4. Spends 4 month to find the solution without any progress 5. 1 year later finds out that his audio driver was the issue all along
For me its like: oohhhh.... so this tutorial is more that 1 minute ehm... i will just...... ee.... i heard watching tik tok makes game dev abilities better! (: ill go do it then
side route: watch dani find out about unity and learning a bunch on a coding language in a month and start working on games and everything unity related becomes chaos
This is my stages. 1. I coded in Scratch JR. 2. I found out about Scratch. 3. I got Scratch. 4. I found out about Unreal Engine. 5. I tried to get it on my Ipad. 6. I got a PC and installed Unreal. 7. I watched tutorials and got bored and used Scratch again. 8. I tried Unreal again. 9. I liked Unreal and watched many tutorials. 10. My brain gathered information and got smart. 11. I can make games almost with no tutorials
well after using game engine for 5+ years i learned that i dont actually love finishing a game but the process of making it. so i just join gamejams and work on my own engine in the mean time
The -5 stages of Game Development -5. Starts modding a game with a "custom language" -4. Forgets to close bracket -3. Whole mod stops working -2. "I would not want to do this as a job" -1. Never gets into game dev
I ended up entering some type of limbo phase between 2 and 5 where I know how hard it is but i am satisfied with the small projects I make and know i will get better overtime
I've made so much projects which ended up in crash and burn, like... all of them, I have 2 projects on my head right now with one of them being one of my favourites. Though just the idea of building a maze makes me not want to do it since mazes are mazes. I just hope these projects won't die out like the countless others.
This video speaks pure truth. The binge watching of TH-cam GameDev Content, the not-being-able-to-do-anything-on-yourself, the tutorial hell... And in the end, when it makes Click in your Head, the incredible feeling to know that you can accomplish something, how hard it might be. Truth.
the thing to know is that dudes like brackey, Dani, etc aren't just game developers. They're programmers who know wtf they're doing, and understand the underlying concepts of how computers work. So don't feel bad if you're not as good.
i think that making a game in python with the pygame library is the best way to get out of the loop since it's simple, but at the same time you don't have all the tools of a game engine, wich promotes computational thinking
In my personal experience, I've always wanted to be a game developer at a young age, but never had access to it because the equipment I was provided was limited to a mobile Android phone. I never watched any devlogs in the beginning of my game development career. I started with the Scratch programming language, and that's what most of my earliest projects are created with. They were really small, and the ones I wanted to grow big never became. After realizing the limitations of the Scratch engine, I finally moved to Unity, a more reliable and versatile engine that makes much sense to me. I watched many tutorials, like those from the very iconic Brackeys. However, despite all my struggles, I still didn't feel comfortable and competent as a game developer. I felt like there was something that I needed to learn that wasn't there. For that reason, I relied on artificial intelligence to aid me with coding... and that worked. Thanks to artificial intelligence, I escaped tutorial hell, and I was able to create most things that I wanted to make. It all happened without me ever knowing. This was possible because I didn't just copy the code AI provided, but also asked multiple questions about it to expand my knowledge. Finally, I reached a level of competence to finally be able to create my own game, and publish my own developer log for both gamers and aspiring gamedevs to watch. (not released on this TH-cam channel)
Please turn this motivation into a habit of working on games everyday!!!1 Otherwise you'll create the wrong habit: 1. working on game dev 2. give up when too hard 3. watch video about game dev 4. motivated -> step 1
@@anytng999Thanks for the advice. I haven't had much time for gamedev in the past couple of weeks recently but I've been trying to get back into it. I just started a new project wich is much smaller than what I usually (try and fail) to do and it's been helping a lot with motivation since I don't have the burden of having to finish a huge project.
I... haven't been there? Or maybe I forgot. When I started making games I knew they were gonna be shitty. And then they were shitty. And I was so happy. 4 Years later and my favorite games to make are the ones I don't actually care deeply about lol
Too many damn hats problem is real. Learning any single aspect is hard enough already, but juggling between learning a dozen whole ass skills at the same time is overwhelming.
Had to do a small 2D demo with Unity for school as a project, working for 1 month straight. Learned C# from scratch, but now I forgot everything since I realised gamdev is hard and programming wasn't necessarily my forté. I manage to create something simple but very effective, but I lost all the files and assets once I felt I didn't need them.
My 5 stages of gave development 1. I can’t wait to make my dream game this should be fun. 2. I’m learning so much interesting things. 3. This is actually pretty confusing but I’ll eventually learn. 4. Actually this is to complicated and not as fun as I thought. 5. Ya game development isn’t for me I’ll just make animations instead.
At the moment I’m exiting stage 2 and have started a bit of stage 3. I did a 1 hour platformer tutorial which took me 3 times as long. I think though that I can hopefully do this and learn to make games. If I don’t make it, then it’s fine by me because I just wanna try this out. It may go somewhere or it may not. Wish me luck!
Currently watching a horror tutorial but considering to quit it because the guy doesnt really explain anything and just do the things :/ I dont really learn from this
@@ChrisBeYT While I’m not an expert on this I can give some advice. If you’re completely new to coding, the chances are that tutorial won’t help. If you aren’t learning anything, get to know how to use the program and what kind of coding you need to learn (Ex: Python, C++, maybe even a language exclusive to the program). Start with small projects because as boring and cliche it sounds it helps in the long run. Depending on if you want to make 3d and/or 2d games, you’ll need to learn certain skills specific to that. For finding tutorials, find something that will explain how the coding language you need works and how you can apply it to games. If it didn’t help then sorry, I’m a bit of a beginner too. As the person said in the video, there’s a lot of experienced people in his discord that can help you with your issue.
@@ChrisBeYT Thats the thing about most tutorials, they dont help because the person just adds code without explaining what it does. It makes you contemplate if making games is even the path for you, but if you just keep trying you will make it. What I would do is stop watching tutorials and try to understand the game engine documentation you can find on their official website. Once you understand the basics (Like functions, variables, etc) watch a tutorial, but dont follow a whole tutorial series. Just watch a tutorial to see what the person is doing and how they do certain things. Keep reading the documentation and eventually you will make it.
The 5 Stages of Game Development.
1. "Wow, gamdevelopment!"
2. Installing game engine.
3. First null reference.
4. Depression.
5. Dead.
The first null reference is a real one. That took hours of my life I never want to admit
Knowing how to debug and fix Null reference exeptions is how you get to the next level.
The worst part is how I forget everything I've ever learned about game dev as soon as I open the editor
That happens to me with every programming language
to be fair, that's what the internet is for. google is your best friend in game dev.
True! Feels like that with everything I try to learn. xD
My 5 stages of Developer burnout:
1. Gets excited and started watching tutorials
2. Tries to copy exact same thing from tutorial
3. Recieves unexpected fatal error
4. Spends 4 month to find the solution without any progress
5. 1 year later finds out that his audio driver was the issue all along
For me its like: oohhhh.... so this tutorial is more that 1 minute ehm... i will just...... ee.... i heard watching tik tok makes game dev abilities better! (: ill go do it then
Oh man.. I feel for you.
6. Rage
side route: watch dani find out about unity and learning a bunch on a coding language in a month and start working on games and everything unity related becomes chaos
loll bro thats so relatable
This is my stages. 1. I coded in Scratch JR. 2. I found out about Scratch. 3. I got Scratch. 4. I found out about Unreal Engine. 5. I tried to get it on my Ipad. 6. I got a PC and installed Unreal. 7. I watched tutorials and got bored and used Scratch again. 8. I tried Unreal again. 9. I liked Unreal and watched many tutorials. 10. My brain gathered information and got smart. 11. I can make games almost with no tutorials
efficient
well after using game engine for 5+ years i learned that i dont actually love finishing a game but the process of making it.
so i just join gamejams and work on my own engine in the mean time
The -5 stages of Game Development
-5. Starts modding a game with a "custom language"
-4. Forgets to close bracket
-3. Whole mod stops working
-2. "I would not want to do this as a job"
-1. Never gets into game dev
I ended up entering some type of limbo phase between 2 and 5 where I know how hard it is but i am satisfied with the small projects I make and know i will get better overtime
I've made so much projects which ended up in crash and burn, like... all of them, I have 2 projects on my head right now with one of them being one of my favourites. Though just the idea of building a maze makes me not want to do it since mazes are mazes. I just hope these projects won't die out like the countless others.
This video speaks pure truth. The binge watching of TH-cam GameDev Content, the not-being-able-to-do-anything-on-yourself, the tutorial hell... And in the end, when it makes Click in your Head, the incredible feeling to know that you can accomplish something, how hard it might be. Truth.
The 3 stages of game dev.
1: Learn 2D gamedev and art over 3 years.
2: Realize you wanna make a 3D game.
3: Realize 3D art is EZ.
The next 3 stages
4: boot up blender and try making a 3D model
5: suck at doing it, watch videos to get better
6: make your own donut
When you watch the devs for so long you become the dev
Absolutely true. Im new to unity but I've spent years on roblox studio.
I have way too much abandoned projects.
the thing to know is that dudes like brackey, Dani, etc aren't just game developers. They're programmers who know wtf they're doing, and understand the underlying concepts of how computers work. So don't feel bad if you're not as good.
Game Dev is definitely something that takes time and patience.
Don’t forget stage 5.6: Devlogger
Edit: And stage 5.8, Devlog Burnout
i think that making a game in python with the pygame library is the best way to get out of the loop since it's simple, but at the same time you don't have all the tools of a game engine, wich promotes computational thinking
In my personal experience, I've always wanted to be a game developer at a young age, but never had access to it because the equipment I was provided was limited to a mobile Android phone. I never watched any devlogs in the beginning of my game development career.
I started with the Scratch programming language, and that's what most of my earliest projects are created with. They were really small, and the ones I wanted to grow big never became.
After realizing the limitations of the Scratch engine, I finally moved to Unity, a more reliable and versatile engine that makes much sense to me. I watched many tutorials, like those from the very iconic Brackeys.
However, despite all my struggles, I still didn't feel comfortable and competent as a game developer. I felt like there was something that I needed to learn that wasn't there. For that reason, I relied on artificial intelligence to aid me with coding... and that worked.
Thanks to artificial intelligence, I escaped tutorial hell, and I was able to create most things that I wanted to make. It all happened without me ever knowing. This was possible because I didn't just copy the code AI provided, but also asked multiple questions about it to expand my knowledge.
Finally, I reached a level of competence to finally be able to create my own game, and publish my own developer log for both gamers and aspiring gamedevs to watch. (not released on this TH-cam channel)
This is VERY relatable to me lol. Thanks for giving me the motivation to start working on games again ❤️
Please turn this motivation into a habit of working on games everyday!!!1
Otherwise you'll create the wrong habit:
1. working on game dev
2. give up when too hard
3. watch video about game dev
4. motivated -> step 1
@@anytng999Thanks for the advice. I haven't had much time for gamedev in the past couple of weeks recently but I've been trying to get back into it. I just started a new project wich is much smaller than what I usually (try and fail) to do and it's been helping a lot with motivation since I don't have the burden of having to finish a huge project.
I... haven't been there? Or maybe I forgot.
When I started making games I knew they were gonna be shitty. And then they were shitty. And I was so happy.
4 Years later and my favorite games to make are the ones I don't actually care deeply about lol
Too many damn hats problem is real. Learning any single aspect is hard enough already, but juggling between learning a dozen whole ass skills at the same time is overwhelming.
Had to do a small 2D demo with Unity for school as a project, working for 1 month straight. Learned C# from scratch, but now I forgot everything since I realised gamdev is hard and programming wasn't necessarily my forté.
I manage to create something simple but very effective, but I lost all the files and assets once I felt I didn't need them.
Stage 1: Dani
Stage 2: A capsule
Stage 3: Witcher 3
Huh... I skipped the first several stages?
I guess everyone's journey is different.
I am just making game for a couple of month without any of these. Its not really FUN, but i simply just feel good while doing this.
2:38 that click was lethal company for me.
me: let me learn scratch (a couple days later)i have figured out multiplayer but... im too tiered to code it
My 5 stages of gave development
1. I can’t wait to make my dream game this should be fun.
2. I’m learning so much interesting things.
3. This is actually pretty confusing but I’ll eventually learn.
4. Actually this is to complicated and not as fun as I thought.
5. Ya game development isn’t for me I’ll just make animations instead.
At the moment I’m exiting stage 2 and have started a bit of stage 3. I did a 1 hour platformer tutorial which took me 3 times as long. I think though that I can hopefully do this and learn to make games. If I don’t make it, then it’s fine by me because I just wanna try this out. It may go somewhere or it may not. Wish me luck!
Currently watching a horror tutorial but considering to quit it because the guy doesnt really explain anything and just do the things :/
I dont really learn from this
@@ChrisBeYT While I’m not an expert on this I can give some advice. If you’re completely new to coding, the chances are that tutorial won’t help. If you aren’t learning anything, get to know how to use the program and what kind of coding you need to learn (Ex: Python, C++, maybe even a language exclusive to the program). Start with small projects because as boring and cliche it sounds it helps in the long run. Depending on if you want to make 3d and/or 2d games, you’ll need to learn certain skills specific to that. For finding tutorials, find something that will explain how the coding language you need works and how you can apply it to games. If it didn’t help then sorry, I’m a bit of a beginner too. As the person said in the video, there’s a lot of experienced people in his discord that can help you with your issue.
@@ChrisBeYT Thats the thing about most tutorials, they dont help because the person just adds code without explaining what it does. It makes you contemplate if making games is even the path for you, but if you just keep trying you will make it. What I would do is stop watching tutorials and try to understand the game engine documentation you can find on their official website. Once you understand the basics (Like functions, variables, etc) watch a tutorial, but dont follow a whole tutorial series. Just watch a tutorial to see what the person is doing and how they do certain things. Keep reading the documentation and eventually you will make it.
@@maurology okay... I'll try that
Thx
For me the cycle still repeats, around a 100th time
watched as 112 and break the dark pray, you are free now.
See, most of the games I play when I’m bored are the same thing.
how real this is, is crazy
i think i am on 1/0 stage .......
Me over here just got into game dev cause i figured out you can make 3d game using python
I've just got out of my latest major crisis 😅
Me procrastinating by watching this video that says i am procrastinating
lmao the dani part is so true
This is 100% true for me and i hope i can finally get out of that hellscape and actually be happy. Oh god, i guess that applys to many things.
Why do i feel so caught? xD
you copied that one dude Tobi for the title and thumbnail. Do you watch moneymaxxing?
we are back baby!
yea lol
This video is Straight Facts.
lol trrue
Dude, the hell happend to your voice? haha I just watched one of your first videos and was puzzled. You sound nice now.
lol thanks
this guy has good videos
i really like this vid
this video is too real
Real.
Oh shit im in crash im fucked
you deserve more subs ^^
now you have 699 xd
made me laugh my ass off
Etc should be etc. Not e.t.c. This is because it comes from latin "et cetera"
Please delete this, I feel personally attacked...
real
no offence man but its kinda obvious that you're copying Tobi's style
but i like ur content
The thumbnail gives away
Bro dve mean talk alot right
Dani is trash bruh