Can't argue with that logic. That's what all the temperance people back in the day could never understand. Drinking wasn't the problem, dealing with existence in industrial society was.
shit alcohol killed my family. lost everyone from car accidents homicides suicides cirrhosis hypothermic death.. all the fighting all the drama & bullshit was due to alcoholism. i quit drinking 9 years ago cause i was headed down the same road as them & all it took for me was a trip to the hospital when i got alcohol poisoning at 21. after that i stayed sober. im 30 now. im pretty proud i could say that im sober. i hope everyone struggling with any addiction can overcome & liberate themselves from this disease. before its too late.
amen, the alcohol eventually turned on Bukowski, made him sick & he quit before it killed him, & then he died. I quit 3 + yrs ago, it was taking good life energy & leaving dread doom & gloom in its place, I don't wanna go out like that.
Problem is - alcohol borrows from your future wellbeing. After a while of heavy drinking, your baseline is depression and anxiety, and you drink just to alleviate those symptoms and feel somewhat normal.
It's only for people who can get up when they want and work when they want. If you have a 9-5 clock in clock out, alcohol is going to fuck up your schedule before long. If you can be more creative while drinking and then wake up at whatever time your body intends then it's not so much of a problem. I think it's more about the mechanism of lifestyle and how creativity flows into it at different times.
Growing up with panic Disorder & anxiety attacks in social groups and in open places like malls, alcohol was the only thing that worked to get me through life for the last 45 years.
@@acapulcoscebu449 who told you he wasn't confident? also hypnotherapy works for light things for few/gullible passive people. Bur ido think nowadays there are way more things to try (depending on context) than to stick with the toxic alcohol. alcohol helps for a while but wrreaks havoc on your brain and body.
Just recently ordered his "On Drinking," the hard cover edition. Born in '92, I've been addicted to his poems & witty reads since 2009. He's a man of words that soon as you believe you've discovered everything you think you know of him, you discover more & more. It's glorious. 🍻.
@@nploda1408That book was incredible indeed! (Even though with some dating experience I could relate to a bit of it in my 20s, by my 30s and especially 40s--it's like the dude predicted by future without being a self-fulfilling prophecy.. I still like women, but I took the red pill a long time ago on them and it was the best thing ever!)
Getting drunk makes me feel like a rock star for a few hours but the entire next day spent recuperating from the hangover is sometimes not worth those few hours.
I have to disagree. I've seen more people get destroyed by alcohol then weed. Weed has its own issues. But I'd rather be stoned and relaxed then drunk and clumsy
That wasn’t the issue he was addressing. Bukowski was saying that marijuana users lose their vitality and vigour through repeated use of the drug. In my experience, I’d agree with his assessment.
@@mongee3614 As a former heavy stoner (and occasional drinker), I noticed the people who drank but didn't really smoke weed seemed to keep their human normal social selves. Whereas, as pointed out in the video, weed definitely seems to cause a spiritual disconnect. Stoners tend to go in their own bubble and become somewhat detached from normal life. Seen otherwise normal people turn into different and almost unrecognisable characters from it. That was basically the case for me. Drinkers might suffer with hangovers and be worse for wear the next day, but it´s like they don't altogether lose themselves or their minds. Although unhealthy, it´s still better to be among the public at a bar or something than hiding away with other stoners.
Honestly, if I thought I had to tell people how wrong he is about weed here, I'd just give up. It'd be like having a debate with a flat earther. Constant use of cannabis over time is not without problems, but anyone with half a braincell knows that it doesn't even remotely match alcohol with regards to destructive potential. Very few drugs can in terms of toxicity. This is an easily accessible clinical truth.
@@LosrandirI gotta agree with my 83-yr old dad who remembered when Schlitz used to be head-to-head with Budweiser, that it was mainly advertising that pushed the Anheuser-Busch company ahead. Do not fear the awesome Schiltz! (For those who didn't like it, they called it SCHITZ back in the 1980s and '90s when I was a teen / real young adult)
My great-granduncle still had fought in WW1 at the Isonzo front, he drank at least a double-litre of white wine every day, said that pure water would 'give one worms', he died at the age of 96.
People born in early 20th century were/are made of different clay. Maybe it's about the food or the air of their youth, maybe the fact that they did much more physical work and were more active in general - either way these people often lived to 90 and above.
I personally don't think alcohol is really that big an issue if a person can keep it in moderation, but yeah, seems Bukowski was totally in denial about his alcoholism, though he was a severely traumatized person, so it makes sense... Honestly it's amazing he was able to go on drinking for as long as he did. He must have been super fortunate genetically, at least regarding that aspect of himself, veteran drunk that he was.
Possibly for him, with his terrible childhood, alcohol worked, but the vast majority of heavy drinkers, who aren't creative, end up destroying themselves and their families. Agree with him about marijuana.
@@sunnymann9639 Don't do it. Trust me. I've been an alcoholic since I was around your age, and it's soul-destroying. It won't help at all - it'll just make your depression and other issues much worse.
@@lh7325I’m gonna keep that in the back of my mind but I don’t see this feeling in my head disappearing anytime soon. It’s like a mountain sitting on my head. But thanks ima definitely take that into consideration
@@sunnymann9639 i remember reading a quote, don’t remember from who, that said something along the lines of “it’s true that alcohol numbs the pain, but it weakens your resolve to overcome the pain that drove you to drink in the first place.” Booze only temporarily mutes feelings that you’ll have to reckon with eventually, only they’ll be worse by then. Heartbreak drove me to years of heavy drinking and it’s no solution, believe me!
I had a girlfriend who had a complete psychic break from heavy pot use. Started hearing the voice of God and became a devout holy roller after years of agnosticism. Her life is better now but I feel like it was forced on her, the change was
@user-gs3tq6bx2u Actually psychosis is a documented effect of long-term pot use, but NOT alcohol. Cirrhosis is a documented long-term effect of HEAVY drinking, but NOT pot. You see? Let's not deny facts here so potheads don't have to feel bad about what they're doing to themselves.
This basically happened to me. I became a born-again Christian during covid when I smoked weed almost every day. I went into a period of mania for a few months, where though I was definitely part crazy, many of the experiences with the Holy Spirit were genuine. The problem is weed lowers spiritual defences, meaning that evil spirits enter much more readily. Like me, your girlfriend would've been having genuine holy experiences but combined with demonic experiences (causing the craziness). I quit smoking altogether soon after and am still as devout of a believer 4 years later.
I can't agree with this. Drinking can distract you from the pain of enduring life, but if that's all there is then I prefer to experience it and try to work out what it's telling me (if anything).
He could be right that drunks can bounce back more easily than habitual dope users. But ... like many drunks he doesn't ask why so many drinkers end up in dead-end jobs. They blame everything for what's troubling them except the drink itself. Maybe if they weren't drinking so much they wouldn't be in a crappy job.
Nah the system is in place long before that. Some people will take to drinking no matter what. I could make a million dollars an hour and I would still drink everyday. It is what it Is.
there’s no difference between these jobs and alcohol. its purpose is to keep the masses calm like he is. the system‘s not interested in losing the working class, not because they’re not interested in the people but in not losing their power.
Charles discovered alcohol at 16. For him it was like finding relief from his existence and tension. It worked for him. At 35 he was in the hospital corridor vomiting blood. Like many others, he was waiting for death... Thanks to the taxes paid by his father he was entitled to transfusions and so he came out of it... Some of Buk's acquaintances and his loved ones died... He had a hard temper, and in the end he wasn't even died of alcoholism.. One important thing to say about Buk. He always wrote even when he was drinking and for him it was a way to endure life and a shitty world and be able to make the words flow, he almost never used alcohol to numb himself.. He grew up during the depression of 29.. And his father often hit him with the strop to sharpen the razor. Every person has their own life. He was lucky and it was for everyone who found: love, irony and sincerity in his writing, and also a friend as a companion during sleepless nights!
He is one of a kind man, and a legend, but let's face it, he's just telling this BS to justify his alcoholism. It destroys your life, and you live in chaos, BUT if chaos is what you seek then I say it is a very good idea, and I can respect it 😁
Don’t agree. He was always looking for something more, not simply an excuse to live his life. The fact he didn’t know what it was he was looking for, makes it all the more real and human. Fabulous human being, flaws, warts, shortcomings, everything most of us are shit scared to be. Hats off.
he's absolutely right, marijuana may make u peaceful but its short lasting & lessens ur spirit dramatically, dulls ur senses & makes u weak...whiskey can bring u back from the dead, liven u up, makes u feel connected /w a great energy
Alcohol lessens your spirit much more than weed , it actually destroys it long term. He knew nothing about the health and spiritual benefits of cannabis
@@StephNuggs yeah well i have been drinking every day since i was 13 and since 20 i have been drinking from morning till im asleep. And i am 34 now. So i think i know a thing or two about a thing or two...
"The lifetime number of drinks for people who are prone to depression should be ZERO. You cannot handle it." "You should use [drugs/alcohol] to feel DIFFERENT, not the same."
Weed is a good drug. But it should be moderated more than booze and nicotine. Or caffeine for that matter. I’ve seen so many people become pot heads and they lose their emotional connection. Bukowski is saying, at least alcoholics face reality on a regular basis.
@@luckyluc6654Nailed it! I love booze and weed. In fact, I need to go back to throwing in some weed. Nevertheless, Charles is right in this interview in a lot of ways. Even though Ace Frehley of Kiss stopped drinking, he had a classic comment about his teeth totaling bandmates and control freaks, Paul and Gene, that went, "NEVER TRUST A MAN WHO DOESN'T DRINK!" (Even in my two or three year stints of abstinence from alcohol, I'd rather hang around a drinker than some damn teetotaler tiptoeing around society)
I wish all drunks were like this man. He had a calm and endearing charm even after a bottle of scotch. Some of my friends cant even have two shots withought wanting to throw fists
I don't really want to assign a lable to this very talented and tormented and blessed man....for all his pain and pleasure and excess and madness yeah he is pretty high up there...a great soul
Spot on about weed, turns people into crashing bores who talk about nothing but smoking weed. Imagine sitting in a bar listening to some jerk talking about drinking beer.
There are plenty of ppl out there smoking weed as drifters, living spontaneous lives. That way of living had been termed as "Pineapple Expressing". So no, we can nolonger always associate Marijuana with absolute laziness.
That’s only the newbies😂😂 think about when you first started drinking? Every drink you haven’t seen before was like meeting god. Drunk. Stoned. All a different bag baby..
People need to consider that his view of potheads and drunkards is only specific to what he has seen. He has no universal opinion on the subject, it's subjective because anyone else can find contradictory information. That being said, he is always enlightening.
i spent my early 20s smoking weed 24/7 but eventually gravitated back to drinking. not sure if its a good thing but nowadays (am 31) prefer a good drink rather than smoking some
Pot isn't a drug. It is a waste of time though. If you wanna smoke a bit before you go to bed that is cool, but if you smoke it during the day it just makes you feel retarded
no its definitely not a fucking good thing that you switched out one of the least destructive drugs of all time for one of the most. Charles was right on a lot of things, what he said here was stupid.
@@mongogojjo5944 bro are u stupid? Drink or not drink we all are gonna die fool!!!! Everyone here is gonna die and nobody is gonna remember us in 1000 years just do what ever you fucking want, just don't do it in excess that's all
Words of wisdom from Charles Bukowski - one of a kind. This man was a genius and a truly brilliant poet. If you doubt that... Go to TH-cam and listen to Thomas o'Bedlam read Bukowski's poem, Nirvana. You will be a fan for life!
My dad and gran pappy before him was drunkards. I'm a drunkard. I wanna break the cycle. This is not the way to be. This is outdated tech, we got better shit now like life family country. I use to totally agree with him . Till I literally felt the hand of death. The grim reaper is real. I'll share my story with anyone who asks.
Marijuana basically amplifies your intention, so it will do what you want in your processing, if you want to just be numb it will do that, if you want to connect more it will definitely do that, emotional processing as well, when you take THC what is actually happening is your brain is utilizing different areas within itself than it would usually, enhancing creative thought, and new perspectives
I used to smoke alot, drink even more. There has always been a divide, a gap, between drunks and stoners, but we each got our own poison. Some people do multiple poisons though. They are the ones who truly understand the nature of addiction, without judging others.
I'm not advocating either way. But a major study was done and they concluded that pot ages the brain faster than booze. I smoked a lot of pot in my youth and now drink pretty regularly. Based on hangovers I think booze is harder on the body and brain than pot. But when I was a stoner, I did know that I was in a haze. A nice haze, but in a haze.
Major study? Source? That’s utter crap. Unless the subjects in the study where limiting themselves to one drink . Getting drunk causes much more brain damage.
I agree that alcohol soothed me for a long time but eventually it stopped working. I had to find a spiritual connection through something else other than "spirits".
ive been a pot smoker for at least 6 years, still get the urge to smoke but i stick to alcohol and cigarettes. not because they're better vices, theyre not, but because weed tends to give me a numbness in my head like my brain was attached to an electric outlet on 200 amps.
I was a chronic alcoholic for 25yrs. I lived in a total fantasy world, believing i was some kind of lost wise man that people hadn't discovered yet. When in reality i was a dribbling, incoherent loser. Best thing I ever did was put the bottle down.
Everyone has their preferences, and I just trust people. The truth is, everyone is trying to be their best, most productive selves. Really. And they know themselves the best. So let people do what they want. And likewise, always judge them equally, too. A person shouldn't have the excuse "I was drunk" or "I was high". No, that's them. But on a personal level, yeah, I hate pot. And I'm also very suspicious of caffeine. But it's all because it just personally dimishes me. I just really think that I can't think as well on it, and thinking is my only value, my lifeblood. One more note - I was really freakin tired of ruining my health with alcohol, so I got medication. Gabapentin. I seriously can't believe that I don't crave alcohol all the time now. Thank god for it. I eat a lot, and sleep a lot, but at least I'm not friggin drinking. I had to learn personally the effects of drinking constantly. It will rot your teeth out, and ruin your bowels. I got blisters on my tongue from constantly drinking. Man, it's a miracle I survived. I also smoke occasionally now too.
Im having the same problems , im 32 trying to stop drinking cause all m’y Life ive been sipping ! I ruined my relationship with my ex my lasts jobs my health im feeling ultra anxious cause i know Im conscient that if i Keep up like these im gonna Die soon
Well that two minutes didn't stand the test of time, lol. I love an old drunken poet but at the end of the day, I love them more cuz they're an old drunk than because they're a good poet.
yeah, what he said here was laughably ridiculous. I would've punched him for it, coming from someone who drinks booze, smokes weed AND pops pills. I don't give a fuck life is too short, weed is only good for enhancing drugs that give you actual Euphoria like morphine and other opioids. Otherwise it's a waste of time
i’ve smoked everyday for 10 years and he’s right marijuana drains your soul out of you. it dulls your personality and fogs your mind. it also increases anxiety and depression. go look at the medical papers it’s facts. marijuana is incredible if you’re sick but if you’re healthy it’s very limiting
One thing which is true about marijuana is that at the end you become a slug : no more energy, no more will, no more mind... just a slug who smokes grass.. Alcohol is terrible as well.. even worst.. but with alcohol you still can do things.. & Life, the meaning of Life is to do things.
His liver was fine in his old age. He lived to 73 but died of leukemia. He only drink red wine or light beers. Red wine is actually good for the liver in moderation. Not to mention, now with modern supplements, we have these things called NAC and milk thistle extract, both counter any liver damage effects of alcohol.
Dude was great with words. Made simps feel better. 😂😂😂😂. Don’t listen to drunks. They couldn’t figure their own lives out. Don’t look to em for inspiration or wisdom. They have little.
He was a bad drunk pure and simple, zero justification for this. I knew too many of them, wasted talent. Teddy Bergeron, (Bourgignon) look him up, was going to be the next Johnny Carson.
This comment section has some really dumb comments, this was when cannabis was highly illegal, his comments seem like he’s favoring a legal side, and acting arrogant toward weed smokers😂 fact of the matter there are much more gun violence, deaths, domestic abuse, murders/suicides from alcohol abuse. Cannabis is the peace plant!
Weed is not the secret to the universe. If you like it great, but don't make it a lifestyle choice. You will wake up one day and realize you've been living in a semi retarded haze. The mind has to be curious always
Bukowski, though a famous drinker, went on to discover in his old age that he was capable of writing just as well sober as on the bottle, and he explicitly stated that he regretted not learning this fact sooner. Furthermore, and more to your point, some corners of his work reference instances of him smoking reefer, usually with underwhelming results, but once in a blue moon he gave it something tantamount to weak approval. I think he did incorporate it more routinely during a few short phases of his life, but it never did for him what alcohol did.
Addicts love playing the blame game. Me??? MY addiction isn’t as bad as OTHER addiction! It’s exactly what I’d expect a drunk to say, “nah man, it’s the stoners that’s the problem”.
Much respect to Bukowski but every drug addict loves to find a way to defend his drug of choice. I've heard a cronic pot smoker give the exact same argument as this one. In the end of the day everything is fine in moderation. And if you feel you can't handle it with moderation then don't handle it at all.
thc weirdly has a longer wd cycle (cant sleep for a week, cold sweats, emotions all over the place) than booze. Why I stopped smoking it, well one of the reasons. Better to just live a life completely sober. Alc is definitely not the thing but can play a part for a time on to the road to greatness.
no it's not. Alcohol is a gateway drug, I would have never tried speed or cocaine in my life if I wasn't drunk I hate uppers. There's nothing gateway about weed at all, Caffeine is the first drug most people ever consume, are you gonna say caffeine is a gateway drug now? NO, people like different things. People have different tastes in drugs, and alcohol IS a drug.
@@mongogojjo5944 well for my experience it has made me want more anti depressants or a way of “escape” it’s different for everybody. But it is still a gateway drug for many
@@mongogojjo5944 anything addicting is considered a drug. Anyways I hope everyone reading this gets through the things they don’t talk about. Swallow your pride and your anger cus it’s not cute
"3 Dollar a week room"... In 2024 my studio apartment is over $1,300. 1,300 divided by 30 is 43.3. Cost of living since this interview has gone up 14 times. The rich don't care, never will. They'll just have more people write articles about how poor people aren't buying diamonds and blame the poor.
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Can't argue with that logic. That's what all the temperance people back in the day could never understand. Drinking wasn't the problem, dealing with existence in industrial society was.
you’re pretending to have an idea of what’s going on like appreciation for holes in a cardboard box
all you know is eat hot chip n lie
@@rinnan8259 Get back on your medication
I love that sentence.
@@rinnan8259 lmao wtf?!
shit alcohol killed my family. lost everyone from car accidents homicides suicides cirrhosis hypothermic death.. all the fighting all the drama & bullshit was due to alcoholism. i quit drinking 9 years ago cause i was headed down the same road as them & all it took for me was a trip to the hospital when i got alcohol poisoning at 21. after that i stayed sober. im 30 now. im pretty proud i could say that im sober. i hope everyone struggling with any addiction can overcome & liberate themselves from this disease. before its too late.
amen, the alcohol eventually turned on Bukowski, made him sick & he quit before it killed him,
& then he died.
I quit 3 + yrs ago, it was taking good life energy & leaving dread doom & gloom in its place, I don't wanna go out like that.
I'm struggling. I don't wanna die
@@Checker_e
I watch & learn from Eckhart Tolle videos,
have u ever heard of or checked out his videos?
@@Checker_e time to make some changes then if you want to live. you can do it.
we're working on it
I like to drink lot of beer, smoke weed, and read Bukowski.
blues of rock n roll At least he´s doing what he wants and probably what he feels good doing so.
+blues of rock n roll
bukwaski was 73 years old when he died
quick death?
you know nothing
Ali Fareed MC dude I wasn't referring about Bukowski, I was just referring general peace and love :)
big boy
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Problem is - alcohol borrows from your future wellbeing. After a while of heavy drinking, your baseline is depression and anxiety, and you drink just to alleviate those symptoms and feel somewhat normal.
So true! Only one who's experienced it can relate.
It's only for people who can get up when they want and work when they want. If you have a 9-5 clock in clock out, alcohol is going to fuck up your schedule before long. If you can be more creative while drinking and then wake up at whatever time your body intends then it's not so much of a problem. I think it's more about the mechanism of lifestyle and how creativity flows into it at different times.
@ also, its impact is very different for different people.
100% agree,. Great way of describing it
Working 9-5 also does that!!
Growing up with panic Disorder & anxiety attacks in social groups and in open places like malls, alcohol was the only thing that worked to get me through life for the last 45 years.
Try hypnotherapy my friend. Get the book instant confidence by Paul McKenna. That will get you confident in no time
Me too. I can't function in "society" without being buzzed up
@@soundboyeric2276society needs you to be buzzed up. We need you to be buzzed up otherwise we can't handle you. Good boy.
@@acapulcoscebu449 who told you he wasn't confident? also hypnotherapy works for light things for few/gullible passive people.
Bur ido think nowadays there are way more things to try (depending on context) than to stick with the toxic alcohol. alcohol helps for a while but wrreaks havoc on your brain and body.
What about mindfulness meditation? Rigid exercise routine? Therapy? Alcohol seems like such an easy cop out for anxiety and panic attacks
I read Bukowski to get my mind straight from the world today and now. Bless all the Buk fans.
Indeed may we stand unshaken
❤💯🤘
Do what you love & let it kill you!
Find what you love and let it kill you. in fact
Yusuf Bayraktaroglu he already found it at a young age so .Do what you love.
Fent
I love life and it's killing me
Just recently ordered his "On Drinking," the hard cover edition. Born in '92, I've been addicted to his poems & witty reads since 2009. He's a man of words that soon as you believe you've discovered everything you think you know of him, you discover more & more. It's glorious. 🍻.
Women is a great read!
@@nploda1408That book was incredible indeed! (Even though with some dating experience I could relate to a bit of it in my 20s, by my 30s and especially 40s--it's like the dude predicted by future without being a self-fulfilling prophecy.. I still like women, but I took the red pill a long time ago on them and it was the best thing ever!)
@@nploda1408haha that one cracked me up
Getting drunk makes me feel like a rock star for a few hours but the entire next day spent recuperating from the hangover is sometimes not worth those few hours.
So true
Next three days over here
I like how you said Sometimes.😅😅😅😅
My mother and I have a gene where we don’t get hangovers. I just feel a bit dehydrated the next day
@@andrewcullen3235 you should concern yourself with your little mutant children instead
I have to disagree. I've seen more people get destroyed by alcohol then weed. Weed has its own issues. But I'd rather be stoned and relaxed then drunk and clumsy
That wasn’t the issue he was addressing. Bukowski was saying that marijuana users lose their vitality and vigour through repeated use of the drug. In my experience, I’d agree with his assessment.
@@mangore623 that can be said when abusing anything that alters our mind
@@mongee3614 As a former heavy stoner (and occasional drinker), I noticed the people who drank but didn't really smoke weed seemed to keep their human normal social selves. Whereas, as pointed out in the video, weed definitely seems to cause a spiritual disconnect. Stoners tend to go in their own bubble and become somewhat detached from normal life. Seen otherwise normal people turn into different and almost unrecognisable characters from it. That was basically the case for me. Drinkers might suffer with hangovers and be worse for wear the next day, but it´s like they don't altogether lose themselves or their minds. Although unhealthy, it´s still better to be among the public at a bar or something than hiding away with other stoners.
Pot always made me super paranoid and gave me panic attacks , alcohol makes me more relaxed , thought I've seen the opposite effect on other ppl
Honestly, if I thought I had to tell people how wrong he is about weed here, I'd just give up. It'd be like having a debate with a flat earther.
Constant use of cannabis over time is not without problems, but anyone with half a braincell knows that it doesn't even remotely match alcohol with regards to destructive potential. Very few drugs can in terms of toxicity. This is an easily accessible clinical truth.
Man, Budweiser ads were pretty brutal back in the day 😮
😂
Good one!
I think he liked Schlitz, at least at some point
@@LosrandirI gotta agree with my 83-yr old dad who remembered when Schlitz used to be head-to-head with Budweiser, that it was mainly advertising that pushed the Anheuser-Busch company ahead. Do not fear the awesome Schiltz! (For those who didn't like it, they called it SCHITZ back in the 1980s and '90s when I was a teen / real young adult)
Glad to hear that Bukowski used to be drinking buddies with Jim Lahey
lol those two would hate each other. I could see Bukowski being friendly with Ray, though.
@@Snarkythecat he would be friendly with Randy 😂
“Heyy how you doing?” The way he said it is fucking hilarious🤣
🤣😂
My grand father drank everyday of his life since his 13 years old, except maybe when he did army. He's 86 now strong as fuck. Coolest man I ever met
Man’s got an addiction. Same as the rest of us…
Write here when he dies
Just don’t let him stop
My great-granduncle still had fought in WW1 at the Isonzo front, he drank at least a double-litre of white wine every day, said that pure water would 'give one worms', he died at the age of 96.
People born in early 20th century were/are made of different clay. Maybe it's about the food or the air of their youth, maybe the fact that they did much more physical work and were more active in general - either way these people often lived to 90 and above.
Booze is my gate way drug! Sober three years now. Life is much better!
I've seen alot of people get destroyed by alcohol.
I personally don't think alcohol is really that big an issue if a person can keep it in moderation, but yeah, seems Bukowski was totally in denial about his alcoholism, though he was a severely traumatized person, so it makes sense... Honestly it's amazing he was able to go on drinking for as long as he did. He must have been super fortunate genetically, at least regarding that aspect of himself, veteran drunk that he was.
Possibly for him, with his terrible childhood, alcohol worked, but the vast majority of heavy drinkers, who aren't creative, end up destroying themselves and their families. Agree with him about marijuana.
Yeah, I'm an alcoholic and it's ruined my life. I used to have things going for me, too.
@@lh7325 im going through a bad break up at the moment. Considering alcohol as my mind and thoughts are unbearable. I'm 19 don't know what to do
@@sunnymann9639 Don't do it. Trust me. I've been an alcoholic since I was around your age, and it's soul-destroying. It won't help at all - it'll just make your depression and other issues much worse.
@@lh7325I’m gonna keep that in the back of my mind but I don’t see this feeling in my head disappearing anytime soon. It’s like a mountain sitting on my head. But thanks ima definitely take that into consideration
@@sunnymann9639 i remember reading a quote, don’t remember from who, that said something along the lines of “it’s true that alcohol numbs the pain, but it weakens your resolve to overcome the pain that drove you to drink in the first place.” Booze only temporarily mutes feelings that you’ll have to reckon with eventually, only they’ll be worse by then. Heartbreak drove me to years of heavy drinking and it’s no solution, believe me!
I had a girlfriend who had a complete psychic break from heavy pot use. Started hearing the voice of God and became a devout holy roller after years of agnosticism. Her life is better now but I feel like it was forced on her, the change was
@user-gs3tq6bx2u Actually psychosis is a documented effect of long-term pot use, but NOT alcohol. Cirrhosis is a documented long-term effect of HEAVY drinking, but NOT pot. You see? Let's not deny facts here so potheads don't have to feel bad about what they're doing to themselves.
That’s called an awakening, not psychic break
This basically happened to me. I became a born-again Christian during covid when I smoked weed almost every day. I went into a period of mania for a few months, where though I was definitely part crazy, many of the experiences with the Holy Spirit were genuine. The problem is weed lowers spiritual defences, meaning that evil spirits enter much more readily. Like me, your girlfriend would've been having genuine holy experiences but combined with demonic experiences (causing the craziness). I quit smoking altogether soon after and am still as devout of a believer 4 years later.
I can't agree with this. Drinking can distract you from the pain of enduring life, but if that's all there is then I prefer to experience it and try to work out what it's telling me (if anything).
He could be right that drunks can bounce back more easily than habitual dope users. But ... like many drunks he doesn't ask why so many drinkers end up in dead-end jobs. They blame everything for what's troubling them except the drink itself. Maybe if they weren't drinking so much they wouldn't be in a crappy job.
And yet many start drinking because they have the crappy job to begin with. Vicious cycle.
Perhaps many of us don't find anything other than shitty jobs ?
Nah the system is in place long before that. Some people will take to drinking no matter what. I could make a million dollars an hour and I would still drink everyday. It is what it Is.
there’s no difference between these jobs and alcohol. its purpose is to keep the masses calm like he is. the system‘s not interested in losing the working class, not because they’re not interested in the people but in not losing their power.
It's the same thing with stoners
Charles discovered alcohol at 16. For him it was like finding relief from his existence and tension. It worked for him. At 35 he was in the hospital corridor vomiting blood. Like many others, he was waiting for death... Thanks to the taxes paid by his father he was entitled to transfusions and so he came out of it... Some of Buk's acquaintances and his loved ones died... He had a hard temper, and in the end he wasn't even died of alcoholism.. One important thing to say about Buk. He always wrote even when he was drinking and for him it was a way to endure life and a shitty world and be able to make the words flow, he almost never used alcohol to numb himself.. He grew up during the depression of 29.. And his father often hit him with the strop to sharpen the razor. Every person has their own life. He was lucky and it was for everyone who found: love, irony and sincerity in his writing, and also a friend as a companion during sleepless nights!
he discovered alcohol at the age of eight, never looked back
and yes on the man who keeps you company on those sleepless night s - Run with the Hunted!
@@kristinmccloy In the book Ham Sandwich he talks about 16 years old, in his friend's cellar...
He is one of a kind man, and a legend, but let's face it, he's just telling this BS to justify his alcoholism. It destroys your life, and you live in chaos, BUT if chaos is what you seek then I say it is a very good idea, and I can respect it 😁
Yep. This.⬆️
Don’t agree. He was always looking for something more, not simply an excuse to live his life. The fact he didn’t know what it was he was looking for, makes it all the more real and human. Fabulous human being, flaws, warts, shortcomings, everything most of us are shit scared to be. Hats off.
That's why I combine both , weed and booze! 😂
No it doesn’t and I don’t even really agree with him
Both alcohol and weed are bad for the memory if not in moderation. Make it special, an occasional time to introspect.
he's absolutely right, marijuana may make u peaceful but its short lasting & lessens ur spirit dramatically, dulls ur senses & makes u weak...whiskey can bring u back from the dead, liven u up, makes u feel connected /w a great energy
Early times whiskey
@@Nothing-qq4hd what about after
@@rainsauzer760 a cold budweiser never before as the saying goes whiskey before beer never fear beer whiskey mighty risky
Every statement like this is false. Sure this might be true for Bukowski, but everyone is different so...
Alcohol lessens your spirit much more than weed , it actually destroys it long term. He knew nothing about the health and spiritual benefits of cannabis
We are all here watching this video for the same reason.
Because we're alcoholics?
I'm watching it for someone else
@@zuv8594 my favorite comment
@@andrewcullen3235
Cos we alcoholics who shit the bed
I got a late, late start in life. Only started drinking wine in 2019. Then the Plague swept everybody away I knowed except me. Hallelujah.
Good stuff
I fucking love drinking
@@StephNuggs yeah well i have been drinking every day since i was 13 and since 20 i have been drinking from morning till im asleep. And i am 34 now. So i think i know a thing or two about a thing or two...
You found 'something'
Beer is my daily bread! Thank lord!
"The lifetime number of drinks for people who are prone to depression should be ZERO. You cannot handle it."
"You should use [drugs/alcohol] to feel DIFFERENT, not the same."
Alcohol is most destructive drug on the planet.
Not when ur drink in solitude like a sad person
I'll drink to that!
3:20 for all the Mac Miller fans who want to hear the intro to wedding 🙌🏽
Ha ha that’s what I’m here for
I was on tiktok and came across this guy’s interviews and was like “wait i know this vioice” and that’s why i’m here lol
thank you so much, been looking for the orignal vid for quite some time
Thank you
Love u
Weed is a good drug. But it should be moderated more than booze and nicotine. Or caffeine for that matter. I’ve seen so many people become pot heads and they lose their emotional connection. Bukowski is saying, at least alcoholics face reality on a regular basis.
What's so great about facing reality on a regular basis ? This reality sucks so badly
My moral contradiction ! Im between not living Life like a victim and try to be better or leave everything beyond and just live like a bump 😂
@@valentineotto1099 It keeps you real.
I would rather be around someone who had just smoked some weed than an loud obnoxious pissed up alcohol drinker any day.
Its a lifestyle
@@leonnaranjo8682your point is?
@@luckyluc6654 Pot heads like other pot heads and drunks like other drunks.
@@leonnaranjo8682 you've never been outside so?
@@luckyluc6654Nailed it! I love booze and weed. In fact, I need to go back to throwing in some weed. Nevertheless, Charles is right in this interview in a lot of ways. Even though Ace Frehley of Kiss stopped drinking, he had a classic comment about his teeth totaling bandmates and control freaks, Paul and Gene, that went, "NEVER TRUST A MAN WHO DOESN'T DRINK!" (Even in my two or three year stints of abstinence from alcohol, I'd rather hang around a drinker than some damn teetotaler tiptoeing around society)
I agree but in my experience alcoholics are much more violent than drug users
I wish all drunks were like this man. He had a calm and endearing charm even after a bottle of scotch. Some of my friends cant even have two shots withought wanting to throw fists
You clearly haven’t read his books and how he interacts with women
This wasn't the norm for him.
bukowski is literally known for bar fights lol
He had a terrible temper sometimes, even worse when drunk. I’ve seen him kick a woman when drunk - Hard!
Comes with the territory. Drinking liquor is a contact sport.
he's the greatest
he really is
Whoever was responsible for editing this video did a great job 😁👍
“I’ll just freeze it whenever he takes a sip” 😌
Dude doesn't "sip" his alcohol. ;D
I cant watch Bukowski without Heineken or red wine. I feel relatable to him, close to him, or something.
with marihuanna its just as important to start as it is to stop. just like everything in life in the twoheaded world, you must balance it out.
What?
Balance is for Philippe Petit..
He is a saint.
He's my savior, man. My own personal jesus christ.
Hes a saint of satan.
@@richardcollier1912 He's my God.
I don't really want to assign a lable to this very talented and tormented and blessed man....for all his pain and pleasure and excess and madness yeah he is pretty high up there...a great soul
🤣🤣🤣
Spot on about weed, turns people into crashing bores who talk about nothing but smoking weed. Imagine sitting in a bar listening to some jerk talking about drinking beer.
There are plenty of ppl out there smoking weed as drifters, living spontaneous lives.
That way of living had been termed as "Pineapple Expressing".
So no, we can nolonger always associate Marijuana with absolute laziness.
That’s only the newbies😂😂 think about when you first started drinking? Every drink you haven’t seen before was like meeting god. Drunk. Stoned. All a different bag baby..
I think its the culture of the people smoking weed, not the weed itself
Maybe if you're a teenager smoking weed. Adults that smoke typically carry on intellectual conversations. The same can be said about alcohol.
Alcohol will eventually, for some people remove them from the Face of this Earth.
And some it already has
Anything or nothing someone does will eventually bring them to their demise. ;), that's the point. The journey is the destination.
People need to consider that his view of potheads and drunkards is only specific to what he has seen. He has no universal opinion on the subject, it's subjective because anyone else can find contradictory information. That being said, he is always enlightening.
i spent my early 20s smoking weed 24/7 but eventually gravitated back to drinking. not sure if its a good thing but nowadays (am 31) prefer a good drink rather than smoking some
Careful man, I was the same now I have kidney issues. I’m only 28
Pot isn't a drug. It is a waste of time though. If you wanna smoke a bit before you go to bed that is cool, but if you smoke it during the day it just makes you feel retarded
no its definitely not a fucking good thing that you switched out one of the least destructive drugs of all time for one of the most. Charles was right on a lot of things, what he said here was stupid.
@@mongogojjo5944 bro are u stupid? Drink or not drink we all are gonna die fool!!!! Everyone here is gonna die and nobody is gonna remember us in 1000 years just do what ever you fucking want, just don't do it in excess that's all
@@mongogojjo5944 Man weed is for children or those looking to resignation. Alcohol is for the warriors of life.
So true. So much of the reason why people drink is to wind down after work, fall asleep and go back to work the next day. Rinse and repeat.
Words of wisdom from Charles Bukowski - one of a kind.
This man was a genius and a truly brilliant poet.
If you doubt that...
Go to TH-cam and listen to Thomas o'Bedlam read Bukowski's poem, Nirvana.
You will be a fan for life!
man, this guy had some demons .... and I'm all for alcohol too!
My dad and gran pappy before him was drunkards. I'm a drunkard. I wanna break the cycle. This is not the way to be. This is outdated tech, we got better shit now like life family country. I use to totally agree with him . Till I literally felt the hand of death. The grim reaper is real. I'll share my story with anyone who asks.
If you dont mind me asking, what's the story?
Yea what's the story? Are you still around?
Say buddy
Would like to know !
In heaven there is no beer
That’s why we drink it here
And when we are gone from here
All our friends will be drinking all our beer
I love Bukowski's poetry, but alcohol is fucking shit.
Marijuana basically amplifies your intention, so it will do what you want in your processing, if you want to just be numb it will do that, if you want to connect more it will definitely do that, emotional processing as well, when you take THC what is actually happening is your brain is utilizing different areas within itself than it would usually, enhancing creative thought, and new perspectives
I used to smoke alot, drink even more. There has always been a divide, a gap, between drunks and stoners, but we each got our own poison. Some people do multiple poisons though. They are the ones who truly understand the nature of addiction, without judging others.
beer forever!
I'm not advocating either way. But a major study was done and they concluded that pot ages the brain faster than booze. I smoked a lot of pot in my youth and now drink pretty regularly. Based on hangovers I think booze is harder on the body and brain than pot. But when I was a stoner, I did know that I was in a haze. A nice haze, but in a haze.
Major study? Source? That’s utter crap. Unless the subjects in the study where limiting themselves to one drink . Getting drunk causes much more brain damage.
Nice refreshing take, I’m gonna have a drink now 🎉
I agree that alcohol soothed me for a long time but eventually it stopped working. I had to find a spiritual connection through something else other than "spirits".
Love this clip & love that he’s drinking a bottle of Beck’s (or at least that’s what I can vaguely tell that it is).
I mean, within his socio-political climate, what he had to go through....he's kind of right.
ive been a pot smoker for at least 6 years, still get the urge to smoke but i stick to alcohol and cigarettes. not because they're better vices, theyre not, but because weed tends to give me a numbness in my head like my brain was attached to an electric outlet on 200 amps.
You've got to stay hydrated
I was a chronic alcoholic for 25yrs. I lived in a total fantasy world, believing i was some kind of lost wise man that people hadn't discovered yet.
When in reality i was a dribbling, incoherent loser.
Best thing I ever did was put the bottle down.
Gotta master balance though being drunk all the time is shit and it ruins the people around you. It’s a gimmick.
Everyone has their preferences, and I just trust people. The truth is, everyone is trying to be their best, most productive selves. Really. And they know themselves the best. So let people do what they want. And likewise, always judge them equally, too. A person shouldn't have the excuse "I was drunk" or "I was high". No, that's them.
But on a personal level, yeah, I hate pot. And I'm also very suspicious of caffeine. But it's all because it just personally dimishes me. I just really think that I can't think as well on it, and thinking is my only value, my lifeblood.
One more note - I was really freakin tired of ruining my health with alcohol, so I got medication. Gabapentin. I seriously can't believe that I don't crave alcohol all the time now. Thank god for it. I eat a lot, and sleep a lot, but at least I'm not friggin drinking. I had to learn personally the effects of drinking constantly. It will rot your teeth out, and ruin your bowels. I got blisters on my tongue from constantly drinking. Man, it's a miracle I survived.
I also smoke occasionally now too.
You sound like a very interesting person
Im having the same problems , im 32 trying to stop drinking cause all m’y Life ive been sipping ! I ruined my relationship with my ex my lasts jobs my health im feeling ultra anxious cause i know Im conscient that if i Keep up like these im gonna Die soon
Beer Is the answer to all your questions
Smoke weed while you drink beer, thays the way
Every night mayne 😆😉
@@thatssomething1 🤣 literally just started like 10 min ago
Only bukowski would argue that alcohol is more benificial than marijuana- And that drunks are better than weed smokers… You gotta love him!
Well that two minutes didn't stand the test of time, lol. I love an old drunken poet but at the end of the day, I love them more cuz they're an old drunk than because they're a good poet.
When in rome...but a cold BEER is always good..
‘When in Rome, do as the Romanians do.’ Don Ainsworth.
This guy makes me drunk just listening to him. He is right about some things. Some things Not so much.
He was right about a lot of things. Marijuana? Not so much....and I haven't smoked in nearly 12 years
yeah, what he said here was laughably ridiculous. I would've punched him for it, coming from someone who drinks booze, smokes weed AND pops pills. I don't give a fuck life is too short, weed is only good for enhancing drugs that give you actual Euphoria like morphine and other opioids. Otherwise it's a waste of time
i’ve smoked everyday for 10 years and he’s right marijuana drains your soul out of you. it dulls your personality and fogs your mind. it also increases anxiety and depression. go look at the medical papers it’s facts.
marijuana is incredible if you’re sick but if you’re healthy it’s very limiting
My mum said;
"Alcohol is your enemy."
Jesus said;
"Love your enemy!"
Now the pot heads are butt hurt
My dad is a professional drunk, he is a cool guy, he drinks 2 liters of 40% drinks per day. And he is 63.
RIP your dad, he might not be dead yet but for when it happens cus i know its coming up
@@47fortyseven47 It is a miracle he made it to 63
sounds painful as hell.
2 litres of 40%? Bit of an exaggeration there
I drink 3 bottles of whisky 40 proof a day for last decade I am still here
great writer
One thing which is true about marijuana is that at the end you become a slug : no more energy, no more will, no more mind... just a slug who smokes grass.. Alcohol is terrible as well.. even worst.. but with alcohol you still can do things.. & Life, the meaning of Life is to do things.
He was so great!
Real man!
I am christian, and i love Jesus!
I love this man!
Real!
I loved him!
Romanticizing liver failure lol awesome
His liver was fine in his old age. He lived to 73 but died of leukemia.
He only drink red wine or light beers. Red wine is actually good for the liver in moderation.
Not to mention, now with modern supplements, we have these things called NAC and milk thistle extract, both counter any liver damage effects of alcohol.
Hank, the best.
I am changing my name to Hank H. Hank. Honest!
@@richardcollier1912 😂😂
Based & Redpilled
Dude was great with words. Made simps feel better. 😂😂😂😂.
Don’t listen to drunks. They couldn’t figure their own lives out. Don’t look to em for inspiration or wisdom. They have little.
He was a bad drunk pure and simple, zero justification for this. I knew too many of them, wasted talent. Teddy Bergeron, (Bourgignon) look him up, was going to be the next Johnny Carson.
He's no prophet... lol He is a poet!
U never really see a pothead end up homeless but u sure do c a lot of alcoholics turn up to bums on the street. .
Halelujah
Would be a great ad for Budweiser
This comment section has some really dumb comments, this was when cannabis was highly illegal, his comments seem like he’s favoring a legal side, and acting arrogant toward weed smokers😂 fact of the matter there are much more gun violence, deaths, domestic abuse, murders/suicides from alcohol abuse. Cannabis is the peace plant!
Yes totally agree
What interview is this?
Beer 🍺 and Weed 🌿 go together like peas and carrots 😋
I'd never touch that poison. It's the South American exports or nothing for me.
Hank had most likely never tried any good sativa. I think a guy like him would appreciate a couple tokes of some Jack herer with his morning coffee
Ok you're one of those who would show up two years later totally wasted.
Weed is not the secret to the universe. If you like it great, but don't make it a lifestyle choice. You will wake up one day and realize you've been living in a semi retarded haze. The mind has to be curious always
Bukowski, though a famous drinker, went on to discover in his old age that he was capable of writing just as well sober as on the bottle, and he explicitly stated that he regretted not learning this fact sooner.
Furthermore, and more to your point, some corners of his work reference instances of him smoking reefer, usually with underwhelming results, but once in a blue moon he gave it something tantamount to weak approval. I think he did incorporate it more routinely during a few short phases of his life, but it never did for him what alcohol did.
Addicts love playing the blame game. Me??? MY addiction isn’t as bad as OTHER addiction! It’s exactly what I’d expect a drunk to say, “nah man, it’s the stoners that’s the problem”.
Much respect to Bukowski but every drug addict loves to find a way to defend his drug of choice. I've heard a cronic pot smoker give the exact same argument as this one. In the end of the day everything is fine in moderation. And if you feel you can't handle it with moderation then don't handle it at all.
thc weirdly has a longer wd cycle (cant sleep for a week, cold sweats, emotions all over the place) than booze. Why I stopped smoking it, well one of the reasons. Better to just live a life completely sober. Alc is definitely not the thing but can play a part for a time on to the road to greatness.
Weed is a gate way drug. Believe it I still smoke and I’ve said Imll never try any other drug but when you’re in pain weed stops helping so much
no it's not. Alcohol is a gateway drug, I would have never tried speed or cocaine in my life if I wasn't drunk I hate uppers. There's nothing gateway about weed at all, Caffeine is the first drug most people ever consume, are you gonna say caffeine is a gateway drug now? NO, people like different things. People have different tastes in drugs, and alcohol IS a drug.
@@mongogojjo5944 well for my experience it has made me want more anti depressants or a way of “escape” it’s different for everybody. But it is still a gateway drug for many
@@mongogojjo5944 You’re bringing up coffee? I never said anything about coffee. Stop putting words in my mouth thank you❤️
@@mongogojjo5944 anything addicting is considered a drug. Anyways I hope everyone reading this gets through the things they don’t talk about. Swallow your pride and your anger cus it’s not cute
To each their own. Neither is correct. Whatever works for you.
Yet, he didn't live long!
Straight upper cut !
"3 Dollar a week room"...
In 2024 my studio apartment is over $1,300.
1,300 divided by 30 is 43.3.
Cost of living since this interview has gone up 14 times.
The rich don't care, never will. They'll just have more people write articles about how poor people aren't buying diamonds and blame the poor.
Both your math, and your ending logic, are off a bit.
what the hell is this man talking about?? lmao.
i love bukowski
he's right. i drink and smoke weed. drinkers have way more life in them
ahhhhh man. this guy is the greatest