This is a write up of the standard Dutch opening, for those who prefer reading it (or those who just want to have a quick reference without watching the entire video again though I highly implore you to watch the whole thing first). This opening can be done on land and water. It is quite macro intensive with constantly swapping villagers between resources so may not be to everyone's taste. Card Order: 3 Villagers > 700 Wood > Bank Wagon > 600 Wood. > All villagers except 1 start on Coin crates immediately then onto Coin resources, move your envoy and explorer in roughly the same direction, The 1 villager not on coin starts herding. > Collect only 100 of the wood from the crates, construct a house using that wood. > Get to 12 villagers then ship 3 villagers, transfer everyome from coin onto food. > Age up with Quartermaster politician, and transfer all villagers onto wood. You want to get enough wood to get a bank down (350W, 350F at the time of writing) then transfer all villagers onto Food (until you get enough to get a bank down), followed by all villagers back to coin. Place down your bank. > When you age up, try and ship 700 Wood, Transfer all villagers except 2 (Those 2 should be on Gold) back onto wood/food including the wood and food crates around the TC. > Build a 2nd Bank > Build a Barracks or Stable, a Market and a House using all the spare wood from the Shipment. > Construct another Bank > Send 600 Wood shipment > If you're about to be housed (hit your population cap) don't be afraid to purchase wood to construct houses, you have plenty of gold coming in.
@@mihajlohranisavljevic6412the voice line quality is actually really good. You can tell an actual dutch person said those lines in dutch. But dutch people (and Belgians) just cringe a lot at their own language in games because basically since children we’ve always played games in English. I havent met a single dutch speaking person that actually likes to play games in their own language. Me and my friends always instantly change our games to english.
im guessing the build order must be exactly the same just after you get the 5th bank up you start getting wood for docks, im not an expert but thats what i think would be best, or instead of building the 5th bank just build 4 and use the wood that would normally build the 5th bank for a dock instead, i play a lot of dutch and thats what i would do at least
Yeah, Samurai was a guy who played for fun and liked to wildly experiment. Which is why he was able to come up with so many unconventional strategies. While Drongo is a player who's running through the multiplayer competitive ladder. And thus focuses more on efficiency/timing. And creating strategies that worked with the current meta to give normal players a good chance of winning in competitive games. Samurai gave us a lot of cool strategies. But there are things that Drongo is better suited for.
@@robertkeaney9905 Any link to so called "unconventional" strats? The best I remember about Samurai, is him shouting "get rekt noob" in FFA and being toxic as a player in general.
@@silmaril96 Your perspective is understandable. As he hasn't done strategy schools in a while. I'm assuming that you've mainly watched his live streams and such? Let me enlighten you my friend.
@@robertkeaney9905 i dont fully agree, Samurai has a ton of video's as guides for how to play a civ just like drongo, also he has a damn website thats called "strategy school" that isnt even that usefull, and the irony to me is that even if it was a good site, its kind of a joke since he really isnt a good player at all, look dont get me wrong at all, i do enjoy some of his content, it was kinda fun when he started playing AoM for a bit, but his strategy videos are useless and i dont think he even knows what the meta is
@@silmaril96 yeah i dont know of any "unconventional" strats either, Drongo actually has videos about crazy strats so actually drongo makes more of that content than SR, drongo is incomparable to SR, drongo's on another league
I'm not good at pvp, but I was wondering. Has a start with the British not training settlers out of TC and save food crates for age up and focus on Manors in transition been tried?
Damn this is much better than the build order I use, mind you my build order (the basic Dutch "Bank Spank") comes from 2003 or so lol, 4 on coin the whole time, 10 on food, age up with 400 wood, then build your bank and use bank XP for 700 wood, then 600 wood, additional vils on food. But damn this build order has 4 banks by the time I've finished aging up and building bank 1 it seems
ridiculous question....but how does he click on the mini-map and the explorer goes to each spot in succession rather than it immediately moving to that spot?
@@garluis23 Drongo played a competitive mirror match against another high ranked player named Kevin. Kevin had better hunts and was able to get the edge he needed to narrowly defeat Drongo in a dutch vs Dutch Match. ZY C is joking that him making a mistake with his economic marco at 3:54 is the reason that he lost to Kevin. I.E. implying that Drongo's inferior management of his economy is the reason that he lost the match.
drongo i played usa today, and I got a spain guy with mass melee combo at age 2 pikes and hussar how do you counter that? how to deal with mass melee units as usa in age 2?
@@weirdchamp7790 well they are your best shot try puting gatlings with them...they shuld kill pikes easily and regulars will protect them from cav...just remember to keep regulars with gatlings all the time you do not want them exposed....and you can always call your militiamen from tc
@@weirdchamp7790 well yeah, regulars dont do insane dmg against pikes but pikes dont do any damage against regulars either so thats still what you should do, regulars would win that easily, otherwise just mix in a few state militia and you shouldnt have any problems at all, going full mele should be easy to counter
What I see as a flaw with this is waiting too long to get a barracks up. If you were rushed by a couple of players your villies would be vulnerable. You need a few skirms or a tower going up faster. No D here in time. Some guys rush fast with calv.
@P.A. Clark late reply sorry, you have minutemen+shipment theyre the most valuable. If opponent goes all in rush cav - time minutemen+shipment+villagers popping in and out of TC. If he rushes all in infantry MM+8xbows+villagers Towers are a waste of resources compared to MM.
He's only not picking up the treasures, in this video, just to show that the build order works without treasures. Just incase you get a really bad map where you don't get good treasures, it shows the BO still works. In a real game of course you'd pick up all the treasures you can
I have several Dutch decks but one of my favorites is Queue up up all your gold to villies 200-wood->build market and house Put every one on wood ->gather 50 Gather -> 50 coin from treasures Put everyone on food Research hunting dogs 300wood shipment Quarter master 400 wood 300+400= 2 banks Send 4 villies Send 700 wood + 2 banks Send 600wood make your barracks + bank/ or houses This may not be good for competitive because of the slightly late barracks but I find it to be more than good enough in casual
As an additional this build is vulnerable not so much to cav, but to the cav like "shock infantry" that certain civs get like the aztec coyotl runners and shotel warriors. Skirms do next to nothing vs them, I don't have any wood to waste on pikes, and can't build halbs in age 2, so do i waste wood on a stables but then i don't have the food for hussars and ruyters are age 3 too. Town militia works once but you have to be careful they can feint you buy sending in 5 coyotl's, then disappear then all of a sudden 15 come.
This is a write up of the standard Dutch opening, for those who prefer reading it (or those who just want to have a quick reference without watching the entire video again though I highly implore you to watch the whole thing first). This opening can be done on land and water. It is quite macro intensive with constantly swapping villagers between resources so may not be to everyone's taste.
Card Order: 3 Villagers > 700 Wood > Bank Wagon > 600 Wood.
> All villagers except 1 start on Coin crates immediately then onto Coin resources, move your envoy and explorer in roughly the same direction, The 1 villager not on coin starts herding.
> Collect only 100 of the wood from the crates, construct a house using that wood.
> Get to 12 villagers then ship 3 villagers, transfer everyome from coin onto food.
> Age up with Quartermaster politician, and transfer all villagers onto wood. You want to get enough wood to get a bank down (350W, 350F at the time of writing) then transfer all villagers onto Food (until you get enough to get a bank down), followed by all villagers back to coin. Place down your bank.
> When you age up, try and ship 700 Wood, Transfer all villagers except 2 (Those 2 should be on Gold) back onto wood/food including the wood and food crates around the TC.
> Build a 2nd Bank
> Build a Barracks or Stable, a Market and a House using all the spare wood from the Shipment.
> Construct another Bank
> Send 600 Wood shipment
> If you're about to be housed (hit your population cap) don't be afraid to purchase wood to construct houses, you have plenty of gold coming in.
thanks alot
You’re a hero
This is the kind of teaching I needed 5 years ago when I started playing online. Never too late. Thank you Aussie!
it looks easy... when I'm not the one holding the mouse and keyboard XD
Same thing for me (its easy to watch doing it)
Just getting back into AoE3 after a decade off it.
Keen to see another Aussie playing! Very informative, thanks mate
Title sounds like some chess play.
Haha yes it does, his next video is queens gambit 😂
lmao didnt even notice that! so true haha
This is what the community needs. Your are doing a great service to AoE and the community Mr. Drongo
These types of videos are insanely good. Thank you drongo.
I loved this video, excited for the other civilizations!!
As a dutch person, the dutch voice lines in this game always give me a good chuckle
Same
Aanvallen!
How bad is it?
@@mihajlohranisavljevic6412the voice line quality is actually really good. You can tell an actual dutch person said those lines in dutch. But dutch people (and Belgians) just cringe a lot at their own language in games because basically since children we’ve always played games in English. I havent met a single dutch speaking person that actually likes to play games in their own language. Me and my friends always instantly change our games to english.
@@axelbrackeniers5488 idk in my opinion dutch language is beautiful, but I understand you. In games I prefer english over my language too)
Another awesome video, thank you
Very good video! I loved the way you make and explain all decisions! Just to add to content, show us the naval deck, and when build docs! Thank you!
im guessing the build order must be exactly the same just after you get the 5th bank up you start getting wood for docks, im not an expert but thats what i think would be best, or instead of building the 5th bank just build 4 and use the wood that would normally build the 5th bank for a dock instead, i play a lot of dutch and thats what i would do at least
this is what Samurai Revolution was never able to do properly, no offence to him ofc but Drongo just does it like no other and thats facts
Yeah, Samurai was a guy who played for fun and liked to wildly experiment. Which is why he was able to come up with so many unconventional strategies.
While Drongo is a player who's running through the multiplayer competitive ladder.
And thus focuses more on efficiency/timing. And creating strategies that worked with the current meta to give normal players a good chance of winning in competitive games.
Samurai gave us a lot of cool strategies. But there are things that Drongo is better suited for.
@@robertkeaney9905 Any link to so called "unconventional" strats? The best I remember about Samurai, is him shouting "get rekt noob" in FFA and being toxic as a player in general.
@@silmaril96 Your perspective is understandable. As he hasn't done strategy schools in a while. I'm assuming that you've mainly watched his live streams and such?
Let me enlighten you my friend.
@@robertkeaney9905 i dont fully agree, Samurai has a ton of video's as guides for how to play a civ just like drongo, also he has a damn website thats called "strategy school" that isnt even that usefull, and the irony to me is that even if it was a good site, its kind of a joke since he really isnt a good player at all, look dont get me wrong at all, i do enjoy some of his content, it was kinda fun when he started playing AoM for a bit, but his strategy videos are useless and i dont think he even knows what the meta is
@@silmaril96 yeah i dont know of any "unconventional" strats either, Drongo actually has videos about crazy strats so actually drongo makes more of that content than SR, drongo is incomparable to SR, drongo's on another league
Love watching you play the Dutch, Aussie! Ik eis dit land op in naam van Nederland!
I like that you did it without early treasure!
Thanks Aussie!
Extra Bank cards in age1 aren't good enough? Even if you don't necessarily take them early on?
How do u activate the hotkeys for the productions?
I'm not good at pvp, but I was wondering. Has a start with the British not training settlers out of TC and save food crates for age up and focus on Manors in transition been tried?
You always focus on manors in transition (while you age up). You also always train villagers as the British. Without exception.
Damn this is much better than the build order I use, mind you my build order (the basic Dutch "Bank Spank") comes from 2003 or so lol, 4 on coin the whole time, 10 on food, age up with 400 wood, then build your bank and use bank XP for 700 wood, then 600 wood, additional vils on food. But damn this build order has 4 banks by the time I've finished aging up and building bank 1 it seems
Nice!!!
Is that a photo of aoe 4 in the thumbnail?
Tks
ridiculous question....but how does he click on the mini-map and the explorer goes to each spot in succession rather than it immediately moving to that spot?
you need to hold shift and click
I need to learn the hot keys, which should help to speed it up.
you are the best
bruh the perfect hunts
3:54 I guess that's why drongo lost to Kevin on Pampas XD.
Plis explain :(
Lmao
Savage
@@garluis23 Drongo played a competitive mirror match against another high ranked player named Kevin.
Kevin had better hunts and was able to get the edge he needed to narrowly defeat Drongo in a dutch vs Dutch Match.
ZY C is joking that him making a mistake with his economic marco at 3:54 is the reason that he lost to Kevin.
I.E. implying that Drongo's inferior management of his economy is the reason that he lost the match.
@@robertkeaney9905 thank you King
You say all villagers but there are still some on other resources? Makes it confusing
I cannot see bank wagon in choose new cards? Like what am I blind or something
drongo i played usa today, and I got a spain guy with mass melee combo at age 2 pikes and hussar how do you counter that? how to deal with mass melee units as usa in age 2?
Regulars
@@pacacho1621 its not effective they do little damage against pikes
@@weirdchamp7790 well they are your best shot try puting gatlings with them...they shuld kill pikes easily and regulars will protect them from cav...just remember to keep regulars with gatlings all the time you do not want them exposed....and you can always call your militiamen from tc
@@weirdchamp7790 well yeah, regulars dont do insane dmg against pikes but pikes dont do any damage against regulars either so thats still what you should do, regulars would win that easily, otherwise just mix in a few state militia and you shouldnt have any problems at all, going full mele should be easy to counter
@@TheHumbleSlave only pure melee that seems uncounterable to me is age 2 lacota vs rodeleros spam
Looking foward to the Russian / British opening.
What I see as a flaw with this is waiting too long to get a barracks up. If you were rushed by a couple of players your villies would be vulnerable. You need a few skirms or a tower going up faster. No D here in time. Some guys rush fast with calv.
@P.A. Clark late reply sorry, you have minutemen+shipment theyre the most valuable. If opponent goes all in rush cav
- time minutemen+shipment+villagers popping in and out of TC. If he rushes all in infantry MM+8xbows+villagers
Towers are a waste of resources compared to MM.
United States opening please?
Why wouldn't you pick up the treasures after killing the guards?
He's only not picking up the treasures, in this video, just to show that the build order works without treasures. Just incase you get a really bad map where you don't get good treasures, it shows the BO still works. In a real game of course you'd pick up all the treasures you can
What's the deck?
5 hussars will make you tap gg
Gg
I have several Dutch decks but one of my favorites is
Queue up up all your gold to villies
200-wood->build market and house
Put every one on wood ->gather 50
Gather -> 50 coin from treasures
Put everyone on food
Research hunting dogs
300wood shipment
Quarter master 400 wood
300+400= 2 banks
Send 4 villies
Send 700 wood + 2 banks
Send 600wood make your barracks + bank/ or houses
This may not be good for competitive because of the slightly late barracks but I find it to be more than good enough in casual
Why does Germany rush hunting dogs but Dutch don’t?
Dutch need the 100W for the bank. You can open market with Dutch, but its less common.
Solid video but maybe slow down a little lol you were going pretty fast and it was kinda hard to see what you were doing
How can I rotate buildings? 😅
Hold down shift while placing
I'm guessing you're avoiding those free gold treasures for a "clean" build order showcase?
yes. you won't get the same treasures every gaame so this is a baseline showcase.
@@napoleon950 I think on GP you get the same beaver trasures every game - two in your base and four along the edge of the map
Thanks, the Dutch are very unconventional compared to other civs
Dutch make good money
If you have money no need to mind food and wood
Dutch like i
Juist!
this sounds too optimistic ive been rushed in less time on ranked. this strat doesnt work like that 5 cavs and you are fucked.
you have town militia for that. Also, in case of a very fast rush, you might have to send in pikemen before proceeding with the bank rushing.
@@IschmarVI And as a newish player I find Dutch easy to defend with once you have a bank or two, that's gold the enemy can't really interrupt
As an additional this build is vulnerable not so much to cav, but to the cav like "shock infantry" that certain civs get like the aztec coyotl runners and shotel warriors. Skirms do next to nothing vs them, I don't have any wood to waste on pikes, and can't build halbs in age 2, so do i waste wood on a stables but then i don't have the food for hussars and ruyters are age 3 too. Town militia works once but you have to be careful they can feint you buy sending in 5 coyotl's, then disappear then all of a sudden 15 come.
BRO MISS TREATY CONTENT IN TH-cam,just one youtuber do and is currently AFK from videos. miss treaty content on youtube.
You play Easy xd