You don't have to cut it open. There are a few videos on some of the other running TH-cam channels where a representative from puma shoes the plate. Very interesting shape.
It could be his way of branching into a whole new category of videos: reaction videos. There is a lot to react to that he might not be able to be in person or get his hands on. Something like cutting it open could be that, but I could also see him doing race/training reaction videos, and new product reactions
QD: There is a particular feeling around 30-45mins into a run or race when I start picking up speed and my legs, heart, lungs are in sync and yet my mind feels very relaxed and very aware of beauty around me even though my body keeps going. While it is hard to put the feeling into words, taking the cue from music it is like "the road is the dance floor, the ceiling is the sky and I feel free".
QD: when running I don't really feel truly alive. I only feel truly alive after a really long run or a race. Physically and mentally I'm dead, my legs and body shaking, me wanting to just lay down on the concrete or dirt waiting for the pain to go away.. but I feel a great sense of accomplishment! Having gotten done with a hard long run or getting passed the pain and doing well in a race. That's when i truly feel alive. I'm running my first full Marathon in May and I can't wait to go for that feeling again.
Don’t cut the shoe. Wear it for the marathon or wear it up to 200 miles. Way more interesting. Cutting the shoes is just not that interesting IMO. Someone made that shoe and most likely works some very long and hard hours. So many people would love to run in a shoe like that but can’t afford it. Race it or donate.
Please do not destroy the shoe. It is wasteful and offensive. Nothing is learned from it. We would learn from it if you ran 200+ miles in it. The shoe has not been officially released and will be hard to get for a long time.
I was finally able to order the Deviate Nitro Elites on Saturday! I'm not holding my breath that we will be able to purchase these for a long time, at least in the US.
I don’t mean to criticize, but pretty much all of your reviews are between 7.5 and 8 out of 10, it’s hard to judge and compare shoes from that in my opinion.
@@brotherjohn931 wouldn’t say so. Just every runner runs in the next percent 2 typically whilst stating there are better carbon shoes. I actually think Seth is as honest as there is out there to be fair!
Seth only got it a 2-3 weeks ago and the shoe went on limited release in the NYC Puma store and in Europe last week, so he probably just got a regular production version rather than a pre-production sample.
Hi Seth. Great content (as usual)...these shoes look very interesting, the slo-mo footage makes them look super springy! I haven't been watching for a while (my sincerest apologies) because I've been deeply demotivated lately. As the rest of the world seems to be recovering from Covid and moving on to other things, my world seems to be falling apart. I need to remember the few things I have left that bring me joy, that includes running and watching your channel...you have (unknowingly) helped me through a few dark times in the past. I wish I had another way of expressing my gratitude to you, but for now, all I have are words...so thank you Seth, from the bottom of my heart, thank you. Keep doing what you do...you're a very special man.
@@Pietrotherunningfarmer Most likely it is related to the change of the day-light saving time. In US they already moved 1 hour while in Europe we will do that next week.
Truly alive? Sitting in Pike's Peak's A-Frame Shelter at 12,098 feet in a thunderous lightning storm and watching a double rainbow unfold over Colorado Springs against a background of slowly retreating black clouds. Ah, I can hear every heartbeat.
Seth, please address further the weight disparity in your size, between this shoe and the VaporFly, since that disparity is not reflected in the size 9 data released to the public.
There is a saying "youre never more alive than when your almost dead" and for me from an athletic perspective thats when I feel most alive. Either when Im cranking out some hurtful speed work or Im full gas during a race, its when that question starts to creep in to your head "can I hold this pace?" and I do is when Im athletically fully alive.
All I can think of when I see these carbone plate shoes is the old Reuther or beat boards we used in gymnastics back in the old days. There were no spring boards then. The beat boards used a curved piece of wood between the bottom and the inclined top. That's where the bounce came from.
QD: I truly alive is able to get up, turn that doorknob and go for a run even though I feel tired or not feeling great. The ability to run and appreciate beauty just give me a reason to look forward my day :).
Don't cut the shoes Seth, would much rather see you run a marathon in them. Also they seem to be more of a comparison to the Alpha Fly's? QOD: I feel most alive when I get to spent time with the people I love out in nature and maybe cooking some food for them. In South Africa we call it a braai
Seth, I’m VERY excited about this shoe. Although, I have to admit, I’m not sure why you didn’t like Atreyu artist more than you did a year ago. I’ve worn it for the last two marathons and crushed my PR’s. For $100, still can’t beat the price!
It's worth noting that the bigger TH-cam reviewers received a pre-production model with 1mm carbon plate, vs. the production model with 2mm. I don't know how much a difference that makes but you kinda have to look to consumers for an apples-to-apples look at it.
@@brotherjohn931 At the time of SJD's two Artist videos, Atreyu only said they'd tweak the production version to be firmer based on pre-prod feedback (and SJD said that in his first impression vid). It was months later that Atreyu announced how they would do that - by keeping the midsole the same, but upping the CF plate thickness. Not sure what you would have wanted from SJD? He didn't have the shoe anymore by that point.
I feel truly alive when surrounded by nature. Whether it's paddling a canoe on a wilderness lake, hiking in a lush forest or lying on a beach watching the waves rolling in, that's when I feel most at one with God and His Creation.
I was lucky enough to get a pair. Super light, my toe box folded up as well. I put this right behind the vapor fly. I prefer this upper. The midsole pops so well, it looks unorthodox but if you lose your eyes you would know. I have them over 150 with 630 ish pace. They are wearing down on the outsole a little./
QD: Seth, I always feel truly alive whenever I'm in the middle of a race, because my body just has a powerful rush through it that I just don't get from anything else.
Thanks for the great review. Really enjoy your videos in the morning. Question on the durability, does the 350 miles include energy return of the carbon plate? For example, next % energy return only last around ~100 miles before losing some snap but shoes (outsole) would last 300 miles before falling apart.
In general in his reviews his durability score is based on full benefit of the shoe, so i am going to assume thats what he means. Light strike also seems to be much more durable than ZoomX, so durability should be much better. hope that helps.
So if the weight was better, this would be the only supershpe to score an 8 ever, yet it is the highest scoring supeshoe to date i believe, but seems like he still is using next % 2 for races and sessions, which scored lower.
Would be interesting if you cut the plate where it's exposed on the one shoe only and then compare how they react under foot. Even better if Brigid cuts it and doesn't tell you which shoe it is
HELPPP!!!! Please help Seth, shoe shopping is driving me nuts. I’m a Salomon trail shoe lover (mainly the sense ride 2). I am looking for a road shoe to do fairly fast 10K-marathon distance running. I don’t want to spend too much as I would like to spend some money on a new pair of trail shoes (I was looking at the slab ultra 3 but I’m not sure on that either!). Would love it if you could help. What road shoe do you recommend? Also what trail shoe do you recommend if the trail running im doing often is dryish and also often includes some road Thank you!!!
The shoe is "too heavy" at under 7 oz, yet Seth recommends adding more to the tongue...I trust his reviews as much as I trust my farts after eating an all meat dinner.
The higher the risk; the smaller the margin for error, thats when I feel alive. I like standing at the edge of a tall clif. Heartbeat, breath, wind swaying my body, sun on my skin; every sensation is hightened; no unnecessary thoughts take up space. It's pure awareness of the present moment. Isn't it funny how the closer we are to death, the more clearly we know we are alive?
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You don't have to cut it open. There are a few videos on some of the other running TH-cam channels where a representative from puma shoes the plate. Very interesting shape.
Just let him cut open the limited stock shoe . LoL
Agreed, check out the doctors of running episode with puma, they show the plate.
He will because the only thing he cares about is views...and cutting up a shoe will get views. Stupid, yes, but that's Seth's way.
It could be his way of branching into a whole new category of videos: reaction videos. There is a lot to react to that he might not be able to be in person or get his hands on. Something like cutting it open could be that, but I could also see him doing race/training reaction videos, and new product reactions
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Have a great week ahead DGR, carrying all of you with me as we progress toward our next goals!
Why would you cut this shoe up?! There' s a Doctors of Running video where they show exactly what the components including the plate look like.
QD: There is a particular feeling around 30-45mins into a run or race when I start picking up speed and my legs, heart, lungs are in sync and yet my mind feels very relaxed and very aware of beauty around me even though my body keeps going. While it is hard to put the feeling into words, taking the cue from music it is like "the road is the dance floor, the ceiling is the sky and I feel free".
Don't cut, wear for the MARATHON!
QD: when running I don't really feel truly alive. I only feel truly alive after a really long run or a race. Physically and mentally I'm dead, my legs and body shaking, me wanting to just lay down on the concrete or dirt waiting for the pain to go away.. but I feel a great sense of accomplishment! Having gotten done with a hard long run or getting passed the pain and doing well in a race. That's when i truly feel alive.
I'm running my first full Marathon in May and I can't wait to go for that feeling again.
Puma have images of the plate available. Don't cut, go win.
Don’t cut the shoe. Wear it for the marathon or wear it up to 200 miles. Way more interesting. Cutting the shoes is just not that interesting IMO. Someone made that shoe and most likely works some very long and hard hours. So many people would love to run in a shoe like that but can’t afford it. Race it or donate.
Please do not destroy the shoe. It is wasteful and offensive. Nothing is learned from it. We would learn from it if you ran 200+ miles in it. The shoe has not been officially released and will be hard to get for a long time.
@@jp05598 please keep it respectful. In the end Seth will do what he wants to do. Everyone has a right to voice their opinion
@@jp05598 calm down
@@jp05598 no
I think the weight score was a little harsh. It’s more like an average carbon plated shoe weight. 5.5 is a bit on the low side.
I was finally able to order the Deviate Nitro Elites on Saturday! I'm not holding my breath that we will be able to purchase these for a long time, at least in the US.
I don’t mean to criticize, but pretty much all of your reviews are between 7.5 and 8 out of 10, it’s hard to judge and compare shoes from that in my opinion.
DO NOT CUT THAT SHOE OPEN!!!! Go Doctors of Running Puma Fast R and at about 30 minutes into the discussion the plate is shown.
It looks and sounds like an amazing shoe - hope it comes to the U.K. soon!
5.5 / 10… feels harsh!! For the weight score
Is he in the back-pocket of Nike?
@@brotherjohn931 wouldn’t say so. Just every runner runs in the next percent 2 typically whilst stating there are better carbon shoes. I actually think Seth is as honest as there is out there to be fair!
I feel the most alive when my daughter does something funny and unexpected. She brings so much joy to our family.
So besides the next% it has the lowest weight of all supershoes mentioned on screen, yet it only gets a 5,5/10?🤔
Seth really wanted to hate this shoe for some reason...maybe Puma didn't pay him enough.
@@mintymusmaybe, but he gave a fantastic score for lockdown, energy return, outsole,
which makes no sense together with your statement
@@Kats072307 Right, his reviews in general make no sense. Only in it for $$
Man, your 6’20” looks so easy and relaxed, like my 8’20”😂👍🏃🏻♂️💨💨
I don't think this is a shoe to cut into unless you're expecting to get the final consumer version of it later on.
This is an interesting point you raise: do the shoes (and plate) change between those given to the 'influencers' and those sold to the masses?
Seth only got it a 2-3 weeks ago and the shoe went on limited release in the NYC Puma store and in Europe last week, so he probably just got a regular production version rather than a pre-production sample.
Hi Seth. Great content (as usual)...these shoes look very interesting, the slo-mo footage makes them look super springy! I haven't been watching for a while (my sincerest apologies) because I've been deeply demotivated lately. As the rest of the world seems to be recovering from Covid and moving on to other things, my world seems to be falling apart. I need to remember the few things I have left that bring me joy, that includes running and watching your channel...you have (unknowingly) helped me through a few dark times in the past. I wish I had another way of expressing my gratitude to you, but for now, all I have are words...so thank you Seth, from the bottom of my heart, thank you. Keep doing what you do...you're a very special man.
@@HashBrownDoyler Thanks mate...I appreciate it. Keep well on your end!
Definitely getting this one, come on Puma 😁
Can't wait to see Ms Seidel rocking a version of these in the next Olympics!
I like the old school vlog close-out music!
First ; )
hehe, good one ;)
Crushed it!!!
Hey Seth did you change publishing time?
@@Pietrotherunningfarmer Most likely it is related to the change of the day-light saving time. In US they already moved 1 hour while in Europe we will do that next week.
Would be great to see you use this shoe in a race but that's a tough choice! DGR Strong!
He's gonna choke hard in Rotterdam....just watch.
Truly alive? Sitting in Pike's Peak's A-Frame Shelter at 12,098 feet in a thunderous lightning storm and watching a double rainbow unfold over Colorado Springs against a background of slowly retreating black clouds. Ah, I can hear every heartbeat.
Seth, please address further the weight disparity in your size, between this shoe and the VaporFly, since that disparity is not reflected in the size 9 data released to the public.
There is a saying "youre never more alive than when your almost dead" and for me from an athletic perspective thats when I feel most alive. Either when Im cranking out some hurtful speed work or Im full gas during a race, its when that question starts to creep in to your head "can I hold this pace?" and I do is when Im athletically fully alive.
QD: bombing down some semi-technical single track. One of my favorite feelings is just sending it down a mountain.
Finally T-shirt and shoes matching 🙂
All I can think of when I see these carbone plate shoes is the old Reuther or beat boards we used in gymnastics back in the old days. There were no spring boards then. The beat boards used a curved piece of wood between the bottom and the inclined top. That's where the bounce came from.
QD: I truly alive is able to get up, turn that doorknob and go for a run even though I feel tired or not feeling great. The ability to run and appreciate beauty just give me a reason to look forward my day :).
Next new player: Altra
So exited for that shoe
When I'm up in the mountains seeking beauty. The quietness, the tranquility, the serenity. It really doesn't get any better! ⛰☀🐻
Running a tough workout and sending it on the last rep. No feeling like it! :)
Don't cut the shoes Seth, would much rather see you run a marathon in them. Also they seem to be more of a comparison to the Alpha Fly's? QOD: I feel most alive when I get to spent time with the people I love out in nature and maybe cooking some food for them. In South Africa we call it a braai
Maybe actually wear this for a race and not another Nike shoe for once, would be much more useful than cutting it open.
Great review. Love your enthusiasm.
Thanks, Seth
Seth, I’m VERY excited about this shoe. Although, I have to admit, I’m not sure why you didn’t like Atreyu artist more than you did a year ago. I’ve worn it for the last two marathons and crushed my PR’s. For $100, still can’t beat the price!
Doug, yes! The Artist is a great shoe for the $$$ and what you get back. Torn on which to wear on my next races. Next %. Speeds or The Artist???
It's worth noting that the bigger TH-cam reviewers received a pre-production model with 1mm carbon plate, vs. the production model with 2mm. I don't know how much a difference that makes but you kinda have to look to consumers for an apples-to-apples look at it.
@@tsubakichan bingo
@@SethJamesDeMoor Bingo? Please bring this type of info (on all shoe brands) to the forefront.
@@brotherjohn931 At the time of SJD's two Artist videos, Atreyu only said they'd tweak the production version to be firmer based on pre-prod feedback (and SJD said that in his first impression vid). It was months later that Atreyu announced how they would do that - by keeping the midsole the same, but upping the CF plate thickness. Not sure what you would have wanted from SJD? He didn't have the shoe anymore by that point.
I feel truly alive when surrounded by nature. Whether it's paddling a canoe on a wilderness lake, hiking in a lush forest or lying on a beach watching the waves rolling in, that's when I feel most at one with God and His Creation.
Really interested in trying this one.
I was lucky enough to get a pair. Super light, my toe box folded up as well. I put this right behind the vapor fly. I prefer this upper. The midsole pops so well, it looks unorthodox but if you lose your eyes you would know. I have them over 150 with 630 ish pace. They are wearing down on the outsole a little./
When will these be available to the rest of the US population????
QD: Seth, I always feel truly alive whenever I'm in the middle of a race, because my body just has a powerful rush through it that I just don't get from anything else.
How big a difference is it between deviate elite and the fast-r?
Don’t cut, give them away to someone who can use them 🌍✌🏻.
Thanks for the great review. Really enjoy your videos in the morning.
Question on the durability, does the 350 miles include energy return of the carbon plate? For example, next % energy return only last around ~100 miles before losing some snap but shoes (outsole) would last 300 miles before falling apart.
In general in his reviews his durability score is based on full benefit of the shoe, so i am going to assume thats what he means. Light strike also seems to be much more durable than ZoomX, so durability should be much better. hope that helps.
FYI you can get the next% 2 on Nike’s website for $180 right now
So if the weight was better, this would be the only supershpe to score an 8 ever, yet it is the highest scoring supeshoe to date i believe, but seems like he still is using next % 2 for races and sessions, which scored lower.
I am jealous you're already in tshirt and shorts running weather
That odd plastic bit at the back could be for when you push the shoe off with your other foot?
Would be interesting if you cut the plate where it's exposed on the one shoe only and then compare how they react under foot. Even better if Brigid cuts it and doesn't tell you which shoe it is
Hi seth
Awesome video! You’re funny and entertaining to watch! Smart too!
So how do these stack up against the alpha fly?
HELPPP!!!! Please help Seth, shoe shopping is driving me nuts. I’m a Salomon trail shoe lover (mainly the sense ride 2). I am looking for a road shoe to do fairly fast 10K-marathon distance running. I don’t want to spend too much as I would like to spend some money on a new pair of trail shoes (I was looking at the slab ultra 3 but I’m not sure on that either!). Would love it if you could help. What road shoe do you recommend? Also what trail shoe do you recommend if the trail running im doing often is dryish and also often includes some road
Thank you!!!
QD: when Running 🇵🇭
QOD: I feel truly alive when I make my wife’s day in word or deed. Also come alive in the mountains
please do not cut :/
He is the GOAT Running TH-camr, and if he wants to cut the shoe, then he is entitled to cut away.
Do it! Do it! Lol! Jk! Cool video!
13th! D-VON….. GET THE BANDSAW!!!
The mad scientist will be back …
The shoe is "too heavy" at under 7 oz, yet Seth recommends adding more to the tongue...I trust his reviews as much as I trust my farts after eating an all meat dinner.
Cut it! Some of my favourite videos are when you cut a shoe. So daring. And who doesn't want to see what's going on inside.
Those are his worst videos.
Agreed. I wish he would do even a more detailed evaluation on the specific engineering aspects.
The higher the risk; the smaller the margin for error, thats when I feel alive. I like standing at the edge of a tall clif. Heartbeat, breath, wind swaying my body, sun on my skin; every sensation is hightened; no unnecessary thoughts take up space. It's pure awareness of the present moment. Isn't it funny how the closer we are to death, the more clearly we know we are alive?
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