@@petrie911 meanwhile, thoribelore the dumbass chicken only gets to respawn twice >:( I am mad on its behalf that 2 for 3 to anything is considered an OK infinite effect, but a 4/4 rush isn't also, didn't Shahrazad the Corpse Flower exist at one point? Pretty sure that was an infinitely respawning value minion
@@oliveleaf7376 I mean, Corpse Flower was mostly just kind of bad, sadly. I'd say Mi'da or the candle dragon was better (... Though in the case of the dragon I use the word better very generously) "infinitely respawning minions", though they lack the consistency of something like Frozen Touch. Actually, though, I've seen it theorized that Tobelerone only respawning so many times is actually *supposed* to be to your benefit, because there aren't that many Fire spells in Warrior so you don't want him stuck dormant on your board taking a unit slot forever after you've gone through them. How well that concept correlates to reality is another question.
The current class design for mage as a whole isn't great for arena because they can generate so many additional spells and those spells are usually more impactful than random spells from other classes. I don't know how they fix it unless they just reduce the occurence of discover options from arena drafts, but then mage becomes nearly unplayable.
i just wanted to say that these arena thumbnails are really good, catch the eye, tells you what the deck is, idk what it is about the mana curve in the color of the class, but it just looks *good*
I guess it’s because haunted painting works by summoning a new copy of a minion (because the minion it’s copying just died). Whereas criminal lineup summons copies of minions as they currently are. same health, buffs, desthrattles, etc so the dormant doesn’t come into play.
Wait i just noticed the mana curve in the thumbnail is the actual deck mana curve rather than a random one, this made me appreciate the thumbnails more
@@Begeru they could have a stock image lying around that they just slap into the thumbnail rather than having to edit a new one, wouldnt be a great time saver but it would save a little bit of time
for future reference: you can get rid of 2 infectious ghouls without AOE by killing one, then the other, then the one that spawned in before the opponent gets another minion on board. killing a ghoul when it's by itself always lowers the numbers of ghouls you need to deal with by 1.
@@baconeko p sure he thought that if he kills the last one that has the deathrattle the other infectious ghoul will be summoned first and then gets the deathrattle instead of the deathrattle triggering first into nothingness
I hope he realizes that it's the hero power that will only give a totem you don't have. The chisel is just a random totem. If you need a specific totem then it's chisel first, but if you aren't looking for a specific totem then do hero power first to have a potential to double up
On the second last game against the paladin, on turn 6, rather than playing azure drake meeting stone, I feel it was better to instead play only piggy back imp and not even hero power. Although it is slow, it does set up lethal next turn assuming the opponent does not heal. If the opponent clears the board, you will have a 4/1 and 3 2/2s. If the opponent does not clear the board and tries to develop you have lethal. If the opponent plays a taunt minion you have exarch to trade and you get value from it.
Considering that damage, buffs etc carries over when copying a card it makes sense that the copy wouldn't be dormant as it copies the minon in the current state rather than making a completely new one.
This just makes me question my arena luck. How tf does trump get such good picks when I get absolute bottom of the barrel shit in all my drafts? I have no idea. Still gonna keep playing arena in hopes one day blizz blesses me with playable cards
Maybe the real criminal line up was _the run we watched by mistake all along_
I was fully ready for him to pick demon hunter for another blueballing
No it’s very clear that he just points and laughs.
😊666😅6😊66😊6
Great hunter run! Pack Kodo's value is really good but I think this run really showcases it.
Lol
24:39 That Murloc crying from the shadow realm made me chuckle
Its dying warcry 😆
- "Only one Frozen Touch left!" says Trump as the mage plays the sixth infused Frozen Touch.
Frozen Touch respawning infinitely probably wasn't a good design choice.
Such a BS card for arena
@@petrie911 meanwhile, thoribelore the dumbass chicken only gets to respawn twice >:(
I am mad on its behalf that 2 for 3 to anything is considered an OK infinite effect, but a 4/4 rush isn't
also, didn't Shahrazad the Corpse Flower exist at one point? Pretty sure that was an infinitely respawning value minion
@@oliveleaf7376 I mean, Corpse Flower was mostly just kind of bad, sadly. I'd say Mi'da or the candle dragon was better (... Though in the case of the dragon I use the word better very generously) "infinitely respawning minions", though they lack the consistency of something like Frozen Touch.
Actually, though, I've seen it theorized that Tobelerone only respawning so many times is actually *supposed* to be to your benefit, because there aren't that many Fire spells in Warrior so you don't want him stuck dormant on your board taking a unit slot forever after you've gone through them.
How well that concept correlates to reality is another question.
The current class design for mage as a whole isn't great for arena because they can generate so many additional spells and those spells are usually more impactful than random spells from other classes. I don't know how they fix it unless they just reduce the occurence of discover options from arena drafts, but then mage becomes nearly unplayable.
i just wanted to say that these arena thumbnails are really good, catch the eye, tells you what the deck is, idk what it is about the mana curve in the color of the class, but it just looks *good*
also the emojis in the title fit well
They're delightfully clean thumbnails, give a minimalist feeling
No one else talking about that Objection bug with dormant minions?
what a very shaman-ish hunter
Frozen Touch is a totally balanced card that definitely should be allowed in Arena.
i audibly lol'd when the demon hunter at the start played the pirahna that he hard drafted into his deck
Criminal Lineup
8 Mana Common Shaman Spell
Choose a friendly Trump arena video. Summon a copy of it. Overload: (2)
Nice Hunter Deck
41:00 that priest top decking every big minion in his deck each turn was infuriating
Not as infuriating as the mage playing his 17th frozen touch
wonder if the # misplays has gone up coz of Arena fatigue for Trump.
Now I'm also confused about the interactions between "copy a minion" and "dormant" XD
I guess it’s because haunted painting works by summoning a new copy of a minion (because the minion it’s copying just died). Whereas criminal lineup summons copies of minions as they currently are. same health, buffs, desthrattles, etc so the dormant doesn’t come into play.
@@SilverScraper that makes so much sense.
Mage: Discover a spell, then discover two spells and they swap costs, then discover and then discover
Wait where's the pack Kodos?
that dormant objection interaction has to be wrong
Wait i just noticed the mana curve in the thumbnail is the actual deck mana curve rather than a random one, this made me appreciate the thumbnails more
Why did you assume they were random lol
@@Begeruless time consuming. Would make sense since most people dont notice such small details
@@darknessdash1853 not really. Still have to edit the thumbnail either way. Where would they find a random mana curve image that could save time?
@@Begeru they could have a stock image lying around that they just slap into the thumbnail rather than having to edit a new one, wouldnt be a great time saver but it would save a little bit of time
I was expecting to see triple pack kodo
51:34 yeah Trump, we know it all too well xD
for future reference: you can get rid of 2 infectious ghouls without AOE by killing one, then the other, then the one that spawned in before the opponent gets another minion on board. killing a ghoul when it's by itself always lowers the numbers of ghouls you need to deal with by 1.
yeah no idea how trump wasn't realising that. i mean infectious ghoul is literally just greybough
@@ratmations8306 Think trump for some reason thought that the deathrattle summoned another ghoul? not sure what his train of thought was
@@baconeko p sure he thought that if he kills the last one that has the deathrattle the other infectious ghoul will be summoned first and then gets the deathrattle instead of the deathrattle triggering first into nothingness
yotam on the knowledge fam
This Hunter Shaman looks nothing like the last Criminal Lineup Shaman Hunter.
Criminally different
Famous last words: "Let's take it slow" He has gotten better but it seems every time he goes too low on tempo it is what kills him.
Frozen touch needs to be banned. Such a terribly unfair arena card
What not hunter again? Criminal I tells you
the real mighty shaman has finally arrived.
I hope he realizes that it's the hero power that will only give a totem you don't have. The chisel is just a random totem. If you need a specific totem then it's chisel first, but if you aren't looking for a specific totem then do hero power first to have a potential to double up
T H E S H A M A N (for real!)
nice sleight of hand at 9:34
The constant undervalueing of Lost Exarch is causing me pain
Love these arena runs keep em going
This time for sure!
This was a very interesting Demon Hunter deck. Cool to see it
On the second last game against the paladin, on turn 6, rather than playing azure drake meeting stone, I feel it was better to instead play only piggy back imp and not even hero power. Although it is slow, it does set up lethal next turn assuming the opponent does not heal. If the opponent clears the board, you will have a 4/1 and 3 2/2s. If the opponent does not clear the board and tries to develop you have lethal. If the opponent plays a taunt minion you have exarch to trade and you get value from it.
Considering that damage, buffs etc carries over when copying a card it makes sense that the copy wouldn't be dormant as it copies the minon in the current state rather than making a completely new one.
Since Trump started doing Arena runs regurarly again, these have been a daily source of entertainment. Thanks Trump!
Hi all!
What program/app is Trump using for his drafts?
I just recently got into arena and that would be helpful!
HearthArena? I’m not sure
It’s called Arena Tracker for the draft stats and Hearthstone deck tracker for the deck tracker
@@liammarkey6933 Thank you!
@@gulaschconnaisseur1332 np
I was sure that the 5/4 minion, on deathrattle spends only mana based on number of ghouls summoned, not always all regardless. Wish it didn't.
I mean... it IS at least a Shaman this time.
40:40 Northshire-Alpha. What is this, a decade ago?
You are, my fire 🎵🎶
But i already watched the Hunter version of this.
Dormant into Objection meta
This is some pretty shamanish hunter gameplay
My god, Mage is the absolute worst with the constant endless card generation and removal. It's such a joke.
But is it serious this time or not?
OK ?! i will watch it again then
Not bad given the insane quality of opponents' decks.
10/10 title as always
That mage deck tilted me so hard and I wasn't even playing, holy
Why is the mage class so toxic in this game? It's so infuriating.
Hedging and skipping 6 mana when opponent has TWO frozen touches is so textbook trump. Lol.
It worked out pretty well for him
Does not have Kirito420, substantially worse video
That mage on game 3 better have gone 12/0. Great player, BS deck.
What plugin is he using for the decktracker?
So that he know the winrates
What a weird Hunter deck if you ask me. Is so blue and so confused on identity.
This just makes me question my arena luck. How tf does trump get such good picks when I get absolute bottom of the barrel shit in all my drafts? I have no idea. Still gonna keep playing arena in hopes one day blizz blesses me with playable cards
Déjà vu
lol
What's the name of the tracker?
Imagine picking mage and thinking you’re decent at arena.
That final warrior's deck was absolutely absurd.
so many mistakes...