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Battle between new unmodified FWD Integra Type R DC2 200HP and used 4WD Nissan Skyline R32 GT-R 280Hp in 1996.
![[ENG CC] Spirits Integra R vs. Nissan GT-R R34 vs. K-Shift CR-X HV45](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/vu-Mq8N37UU/mqdefault.jpg)
![[ENG CC] Spirits Integra R vs. Nissan GT-R R34 vs. K-Shift CR-X HV45](/img/tr.png)
![[ENG CC] FF-FR-4WD-MR battle - Integra R, Silvia S14, R32 GT-R, Impreza, MR2 - Tsukuba 1996](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Ceb4861SG7Q/mqdefault.jpg)
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R32 with the rally track skills nice,nice
I love how the integra even got compared against such cars, punches well above it weight. It only lost on power/torque deficit.
Those lul 4 bangers love boost tho, hell even single cams can become sleepers!
E36 BEAMERBOY building single c myself
@@claudedottin1312 good shit my guy!
if it made the same power it would have lost even worse because it would have been spinning and understeering even more
KONRAD You can’t upgrade much on the Inte R.
Stiffer this & that can be a detriment to longevity for a budget conscious driver/team.
Sponsorships are where the FF platforms live.
this is a car guy's type of foreign tv show
@jasper426 didnt think id see a mxc reference here lmao
No shit
I'd say this is a win for Japanese engineering over all. 6 years after the greatest car ever was released, a FF Honda is able to compete. Japan needs more progression like this
they buy blue prints from European companies and improve what was already great.
@@fewhavestrength it's not the 1950s any more
@@identiticrisis your point?
@@fewhavestrength they engineer their own products. What "European blueprints" were used to make the R32 GTR and DC2R?
What you're describing was a situation where they took licence built European motorcycles and modified then for the better. They ultimately came to completely dominate global markets as a result, especially with their multi cylinder and two stroke innovations.
Face it, the European manufacturers at the time were in a lull and were complacent because they believed they were superior...
@@identiticrisis "in lull"?!? The Europeans created the transport haha we're superior you fool!
Also the r32 was designed in 1988/89, for car to perform like it did, from the 80's, is just awesome.
1400kgs is too much for stock 280ps....
+TassieLorenzo I just drove one recently and that was my first thought. Its a very underwhelming car in stock form. I could tell it had potential and would still be great on a track but it was just odd to see how slow it was and even though it handles well it feels odd.
If only the r32 had better tires in the race
@@thewanganfiles9304 They were 276hp. around 320hp running waste gate pressure if you removed the restrictor, which they did not in this video.
@@MrTshoff yh the Japanese government really fucked a lot of sports cars in the ass
勝敗はどちらにせよ、この時代の車は本当に素晴らしい。
あみな deadass
SPEAK ENGLISH DOC WE AINT SCIENTIST
"whether you win or lose, cars of this era are great"
For a 197 hp FF car to be able to keep up this close to a 316 hp AWD car, especially one like the GT-R is truly impressive
Horsepower isn't everything. My Subaru STI has 300 hp but it's useless in tight corners. Great for daily driving and passing by Civics or Camrys but that's about it. When it comes to touge weight and balance are everything.
Yeah but weight evens them out
280ps. the boost is locked on this one.
*"Can you keep up with my R?!!"*
ah yes,Initial D references
No he can't...
Keeping in mind that the R32 GTR actually has 320+ps but was written as 280 due to the gentlemens agreement in Japan at the time. So it's actually a 120ps difference.
+danrawkz if the restrictor has been removed then yes :P
I'm pretty sure there is no restrictor for the HP.
There is restrictor limiting boost to 10psi .7 bar when removed it runs at 14psi 1 bar. This would be the difference in power :) I've heard owners manuals suggest the restrictor be removed but must be sold with it to meet their 280 agreement.
Stock r32s have made over 290whp without being touched
1 bar is 14.5psi I think, not that it matters that much
Im not sure why everyone is suprised at how well matched these cars are. Integra is newer and bred for racing just like the GTR. Power to weight is 11.6 lb per HP on 96 spec JDM Type R. R32 GTR is about 11.2 lb/hp. Tires and suspension on Honda are lightyears better than stock GTR. On top of that the GTR is used. Real difference is the Honda can only improve but so much without spending ALOT of money on engine rebuild, racing suspension and brakes, and stripping down car with lighter body panels. GTR can up the boost on stock engine, put on good coilovers, and use better brake pads and the difference is monumental for a reasonable cost. Not a knock on the Honda at all. Thats just the limitation of fwd and n/a. If anything its a wonder they can make the car that good and still be driveable on a daily basis.
J Santiago The R32 is more expensive to get and even more expensive to maintain.
Changing the breaks on a R32 might cost you twice as much, as doing it for the DC2.
Uh no its because it's a tiny track, and the gtr is to heavy and powerful for a go-kart sized track.
The Dragon Reborn LOL dont you idiots realize tsuchiya was babying the GTR so it would be a good race? He even says it in the video. The integra has no chance vs the GTR.
Check Mate Ikr he was short shifting the hell outta that R32 lol but I still love the ITR
just give keeichi senpai an r32 gtr and he can rule the World with his eyes closed
This was the most wholesome race I've ever seen.
The R32 is still my all-time favorite car. I feel in love with it when I first saw it on Initial D and has been my choice for cars to this day.
this is ur opinion and my opinion supra and integra.
Same here dude, love the R32 bc Initial D
ah yes cartoon represents a real life car
@@littlepeugeot8341 because it does and it actually teaches you techniques. I wouldn't call it cartoon. It's very different from your normal Naruto and DBZ lmaoo
@@MrNovaTakahashi damn, just gonna say, you should never meet your hero because you have the wrong one😬
the type r put on a good fight!
well GTR driver was messing around for most of the race lol
barfyman362 well yeah.. :) also that
There was a huge power difference though. The type r held his own on the second lap!
Viet Ta yes definitely, it's 2.6 twin turbo awd vs 1.8 n/a ff huge difference... This exaple only shows how important weight reduction really is...
Heck yea! What a good fight after the 1st round though!!
1800ccの無加給エンジンで2600ccの加給エンジンにあそこまで食い下がれるのは凄いことだと思う。
しかもGT-RはアテーサE-TSで変態四駆だからなぁ・・・インテの武器は軽さと引っ張れるエンジンか・・・
32が6年前か......
時代を感じるわ
I watched saw this video years ago when I had r32gtr, I couldn't believe how well built the dc2r was. Sold the Gtr to buy NSX then I was like wow so nimble and nice VTEC. When I got my hands on dc2r, everything changed, if I could only have one car it would be the dc2r! You guys need to really try driving one before bashing on Honda. I love turbos and still owning a rx7, a fd2r and I got my 3rd dc2r in a mint condition, pretty happy with that!
Thanks for the comment. But why exactly do you prefer DC2 over all these cars you mentioned, especially over the NSX?
あっ…黒澤元治スタートだ
で笑った
自分はインテRに乗ってましたが、GT-Rも素晴らしい車だと思います。
小さなサーキットでベストタイムが1秒程度違うのだから、GT-Rが順当に速いですよね。
中～高速コーナーばかりならインテも頑張れるかもしれませんが、低速コーナーではトラクションとパワーの差が出る筈です。一長一短あります。
この動画ではタイヤ性能にも問題があったようなので、格下のクルマでも勝負になるような表現はフェアじゃないと思いました。
GT-Rはちゃんと価格相応に高性能だし、リスペクトされているのは正当な評価だと思います。
I love how he finally got serious toward the end of the race. This was a good race just wish he would have went out of the gate like a boss. The Type R is an Amazing machine. You also got to love that body roll on the GTR. I imagine if the GTR had better tires and suspension like the Type R the GTR would have beat the Type R by quite a bit more. For a car that was designed in the 80s performs pretty good I must say! I would love to own both of these cars they are great machines!
A Type R kompressor with 70hp more would destroy that fatty
The same fatty which is rightfully named GODZILLA? I think not.
@@PutinIsKing umm, 3100 lbs isn't heavy at all, and if the 32 driver went serious, then the R32 would whoop the DC2's ass.
Shotoku Wangan throw a turbo on the dc2 and awd convert it with crv parts and bye bye skyline
@@AAA310 okay but lest say we twin turbo the gtr put it on slicks and gut it and then put it up against a stock integra i wonder what the outcome will be
Great upload The move Tsuchiya pulled at 3:04-3:21 almost closed the gap. Pure skill.
It’s an illusion, because he took a narrow line for entry and, generally, when cars racing they become closer to each other during mid-cornering but the time gap keeps being the same. You can see how Integra pulled away on the next short straight after 3:24 making the distance gap the same as before they approached this corner
That "move" was simply to flood the radiators (coolant, oil and charge intercooler) with cool air since he'd been following in another car's slipstream.
Id be mad if i was a gtr owner and a fwd car with 80 less hp kept up so well. even when driving serious.
I make alot of GTR/nissan owners a madd at the track days i go too =)
Good man.
Egg Shells pwr of the gtr is better, keeping in mind that it has 320+ hp
He couldn't even if he wanted too, stock brakes by the end were fading and overheating. He even said it himself. You can't push a car to the limit if it won't stop. That said, power accounts for nothing on a tight course
@_Chainz _ congratulations, you are an idiot
Fan of both cars of course but am surprised with how well the Integra kept up with the GTR.. 1.8 litre 4 banger with just fwd vs a 2.6 (.8 litre more than gtr) plus 2 more cylinders and two turbos!
Jesse Swinimer Power to weight, handling and driver. If the teg had an K20 or even supercharged it'll beat that R32.
1989 car with quite a body roll with the stock suspension. If the Gtr had better suspension like the dc2, race won't even be close mate.
Vermilion Argent I did notice that too....sure it has about....100+ more torque, but weight difference between them tho...Plus the Type R is no slouch.
でも1.8リッターnaで32についていけるホンダも強すぎる
いやいや、4輪駆動で280馬力ターボのR32の方がミニサーキットは有利でしょ。中速コーナーが多いコースだとR32はインテRについていくことはできんと思うよ
ジーザス魔王 4輪駆動だからってのは理解できるけどミニサーキットだったらターボも280馬力もそこまで関係はなさそう
P INE トルクは関係あるっしょー
たけちちち アクセルのオンオフ多いとノーマルとは言えターボラグが多少なりともありそうだからNAの方有利な気がした
P INE そこまで大差無いかもね
結果、2.6Lについていけるインテの技術は凄い。
2Lターボ相手ならぶっちぎりでインテRの方が速いですからね。
ホンダは凄いですよ。
多分FD2ならR32より速い
１５シルビアなんて論外だろｗ
中低速のドリフトでは華のシルビアとジムカーナで強いインテと比べるまでもない。
今の子ってシルビアがサーキットで速いと思ってんのか？ｗ それはそれでやべぇなｗ
NfjHsちゃんねる
いえｗ
なんか最近の子はシルビアとか出すと（S15）を引き合い出して速いって言うけど、俺らの時代（S13）世代
シルビアなんて安価の中低速重視のドリフト華の車だったから、すんげー今の子知らないんだなっと思うからさｗ
グリップオンリーのジムカーナもってけばシルビアなんて足元にも及ばないのに、速いとか言っちゃってびっくりするよｗ
それだけ今の子はS15好きで、高額だからそう錯覚してるんだろうけどｗ
俺は昔友達がD1とかS13で参戦してた友達がいたから、シルビアなんてそんな良い車だとは思わんけど。
（当時友達との個人売買でシルビアとか１８０なんて２０万で取引してた世代だからね・・・・ｗ）
2.6Lについていけるというか、土屋の運転は酷すぎる。
あれじゃ勝って当然だし、GT-Rのオーナーさん心で泣いてるぞ。
That's the best thing about a GTR, it may not be too exciting in stock form, but it's capacity for mods is always going to be much, much easier to utilise. And don't forget the weight difference of 400kg between these two.
Tom Fagan its dam fun standard im not a drag racer i go for corners and the gtr stock is very good i wont be touching the power till i can drive it at full potential in stock form
This is awesome. Just shows how good those Honda engineers are. Just needed some more power.
The thing weighs less than 1200kg. With some more power it would be beating cars above its class
互いが逆のクルマに乗ったとしても勝つのは緑色、というのがこの頃の土屋の立ち位置。Gr.AのGT-Rドライバーに抜擢され、憧れのクニさんのパートナーになり、ルマンに出て、茅野に自分の店を持った（潰れたけど）。一番のぼせていた頃。
最後のくだりワロタ（笑）
つまりはヤラセ要素たっぷり。
Maybe my all time favorite battle!!! Times have changed ....I would like to see a turbo type r in this same race...
デビューから6年ですでに最先端に乗り遅れてしまうこのころの技術の進歩の早さ？
Teg kept up very good! Anyway love both cars as honda guy
The way keichi swung that gtr in the corners mind blows me
I love you Japan. Thank you so much.
amazing race!
shocked that the lil Honda kept up so well
Power to weight
@@coopsnz1 good vehicle design*
Other than the steep uphill section the type r matched it quite well, the lack of torque showed with the type r in that uphill section
0:50 homie on boss mode just straight relaxed no stress with his arms crossed and a honey in back of him, mad respect 🤙🏿
R32: *wins*
Everyone: I'm gonna pretend i didn't see that
Because GTR was Godzilla
They're not even the same class, of course the GTR was going to win. The Integra did really well despite that
And won while being played with on the track lmao
It barely won and is supposed to be the top car from nissan. 4wd attesa, 3xx hp turbo against a 1.8 NA FWD..
@Fius did you miss the parts where R32's develop all the torque at 4000 rpm? The R32 wasn't even fast on tracks or 1/4 mile anyway. It's a 1.8 NA FWD that its faster on some tracks that much powerful cars, it's the more impressive car here.
Without taking away anything from how great the gtr was it seriously underperformed for what I was expecting, even from a completely stock one. The fact the integra can hold it's own and compete against a damn gtr just blew my mind
Consider that the GT-R is 300 kg heavier than the Integra, that comes all in favor of the second in such a slow-technical track. The IR did well in Tsukuba also against all the best Japanese, but normally it's an inferior car. Besides, haven't you seen Tsuchiya fooling around for half the race? He even made a mistake.
@@alessandrob8507 how much is that in pounds? Regardless tho. We're talking an Integra here, which is what I would consider the equavilant of like infinity g35's. The nsx should of been the gtr' s rival in theory but it was just an Integra r which is actually super super impressive from Honda
660 pounds. The Integra R is much more race focused than a g35 and it's a great car indeed but still the r32 is overall superior
Hearing that VTEC crossover at 4:39 is honestly so satisfying
そりゃ排気量も違うし、インテグラには、ターボも無いんだから、R32が負ける方がおかしいでしょう。
After 6 years! Its been 25 years and I still want one.
4:57 "i can do these things,look" that's tsuchiya for you😂
This makes me miss my 95 integra gsr. that thing was so fun to throw into corners and exciting to drive. Loved it more than my 05 wrx I own now
I own a 1995 gsr integra and a 2002 wrx. Next to my collection is gonna be a 1995 miata and a 2005 forester
@@stupidslave nice! I sold both and bought a 89 bmw e30 coupe
@@danbmx445 theres a 1995 bmw 525i wagon in my drive way and I wanna buy it from my dad
何度見ても面白いGTRは凄いやっぱり天下のR 32ですね。
Tsuchiya having so much fun, his talking making me smile every time he opens his mouth
2 iconic Japanese cars both winners
*Back on the rocks* intesifies !
I'd still take the Integra Type R
True... Few tricks and would've smoke that GT-R
12 year olds
Yupp original r cost more than gtr nowadays
@@mamiisthebestgirl5267 I want a type r so bad 😔
@@lasteriti8369 old or new? I got a 97 ITR and I love it!
Why tf is this like to dislike ratio so bad? This video is outstanding.
Gtr fanboys
the mockery is strong with Tsuchiya....maybe I'll shift at 5500rpm. type r is great but nowhere near a r32 of performance, heritage and technology.
This is true, if he went all out on this track with not that many tight corners and more straights, he would gap the shit out of the Integra but if this was on a tight course it could struggle ' a bit.
Ashy Gee you’re right on everything except the heritage part. Honda has a huge racing heritage.
Derrick the fuck yall talkin bout Lewis Laugh at? Guessing you never seen a 900 hp Honda on a public hwy. people are swapping Honda motors in non Honda cars.
You cant beat a Honda. On price,performance and reliability. Missed my opportunity on a 92' Honda Civic B20,hydro trans,Precision 6262,etc..Ran the quarter mile on 10.92. Name a car that can do that under $4400!
How about the jtcc accord that ran NA and gave the heavily modified r32’s, Ferrari’s and supras a run for their money? You really know nothing about Honda.
People always don't understand that top end HP doesn't mean much if the car isn't balanced and it's the powerband that is the most important. How good the car can make the most power quickly and stay in the powerband that provides the most usable track power. Most of the times when you are going in and out of hairpins the car isn't putting down all of it's power.
Those two are having way too much fun, I think they forgot they were supposed to be racing each other
3:12 That understeer was crazy
Still shows how well a performance Honda FWD drives... Stock Integra Type R's dyno in AT MOST 170 WHP, forums say 160 WHP... whereas the R32 completely stock dynos in anywhere from 275 - 300 WHP lmao... nearly double that of the ITR! It's funny man, people don't get how awesome a well setup performance Honda is... Mainly one with a Helical LSD (Like the Type-R or SI's etc) + a good engine + torque steer reducing Honda engineering, on top of all the other Honda engineering... it's great. [I love GTR's also by the way]
Man you can really see the boat in the GTR when it corners, though it's a boat I'd love to own
good battle, the type R is my favourite but struggles on the uphill with much less torque, i think around tsukuba the outcome will be different
Never underestimate the R32! It's much more heavy, it's used and still, faster.
And 200hp more powerful soooo..
@@cloverhal2284 I doubt the Teg was only 120hp😂
@@cloverhal2284 that integra wasn't 80hp............
Man these Honda type R VTEC engines are so under rated.
ITR thé perfection for a 1,8L N/A
I'll never get tired of listening to that VTEC engine
Nicest Integra ever. Period
How he pulled handbrake while entering the corner?!! Amazing skill
インテめっちゃバカにしてて草ww
This is the only guy who can mess with dori dori with no problem
Great race, although a fairer comparison would have been the Type R vs an R33 GTS25T, or the BNR32 vs an NSX. Goes to show how great both cars are. Here in NZ the DC2 Type R will only set you back 6-7k NZD, BNR32 is more like 20-25k NZD. I'd rather buy an S2000 and have 10k left over...but hey that's just me
Oh lord, how things have changed in six years... BNR32's are 90k on the really low end now... God I wish I was born a little earlier.
I have no clue what they said. But good race! and thank you youtube algorithm for this blessing
勝敗はともかく小さい頃からずっと好きなインテグラを出してくれるだけでも僕は嬉しい
Love the sound of the Skyline, actually love both
この頃の日本車はどれも美しくてとにかく速かった。
Where i live legal R32 GT-R is twice the price of ITR for same condition/mileage and seeing this make DC2 very appealing
Kudos to the Integra, two beautiful cars in a beautiful race!
ITR 較輕加上較底頭懸掛高度有助增強頭軸入彎時嘅敏捷度。雖然R32 較重但ATTESA ET-S 在大部份時間是後驅，車手可利用油門作throttle steer縮短回旋半徑。GT-R嘅頭軸明顯係會在尾軸失去longitudinal traction時才接收小量動力來減底longitudinal traction損耗同時提防在比油時推頭, 從中利用車手的counter steer 來拉直部車。可見GT-R 在出彎時就算個尾甩出來部車依然有強大longitudinal traction 來加速。
GT-Rはパワーがあり、4WDという利点もあるけど重いのが難点
インテRは軽く、パワーウェイトレシオの少なさが武器だけど、パワーの無さがねぇ
本気ではないだろうけど、なかなか面白いバトルだった
今じゃ800psのR32があるんだもんなぁ
時代の流れってすごいよな
Apples an oranges actually. Even though the spec out similar as far as power to weight, the torque difference is to hard for the integra to overcome. I am a huge Honda guy and that's all I own. This is a battle of a scalpel vs. a sledgehammer. Both are great. both are great at what they were designed to do.
R32はほんまかっこええなあ
I'm crying rn😭😭😭 japan and cars in the 90s were legendary, i wish i could live through all those memories😢
Nakazato vs Sakai ('Smiley')
DC2 and BNR32 are great looking cars.i wish one day to have one of these cars ..
It's crazy to see how poorly the BNR32 handles with the stock suspension. Mostly bcuz of how heavy it is, It was bouncing all over the place. It's definitely apparent that tech is making positive progress when u watch the Teggy compete with Godzilla!
#JDMLife
Love how tsuchiya pulled the handbrake when he was understeering
I'm listening to this as I drive my S2K on the back roads of Georgia.
Nothing like the old Japanese car racing videos.
カリカリに回るＮＡライトウェイトスポーツ
I think we can all agree that Tsuchiya wasn't really trying at all in the GTR. He was definitely just out playing around. If he wanted to he definitely could have sent the integra packing. Even still it did an amazing job against Godzilla.
The fact the gtr has a turbo a bigger motor and over a 100 hp more and torque not to mention awd its pretty sad how the type r kept up lol
Twin turbo charged 4wd vs na ff just shows how good these guys are
そもそもDC2と比べるのはおかしいだろｗ
Love the bnr32 😍
stock nissan suspension is not firm enough for their weight to maximize traction on track, Honda suspension is. that's most important on track not power.
Okay get more firm suspension in the GTR and remove 50 HP letz see what happens...
This is very true. If you guys havent I recommend you look up the video of a 90hp miata with upgraded suspension keep up with a Ferrari 458
@@GSXR_1K_FTW No the difference there was the 458 was being driven by some rich wanker while the Miata was being driven by some who knew how to drive hard and fast.
Actually the skyline gtr r32 was advertised to have 276 hp but they hid the fact it had 320 horsepower.
DC2のエンジン音がいいねぇ
DC2 ITR all day everyday!
Should've gone up against the BCNR33, they're about the same year production. It'll be heavier though, but has better suspension, and updated ATTESA 4wd.
Two of the best looking jdm cars together
5:54 he got some serious air with the gtr
right rear side )
its a shame Honda never had a 6cyclinder AWD equivalent to the RB26. it would have been a beast. Especially with Hondas level of engineering
The Integra Type R is an amazing car, that's why miroshi and myself both have one haha
I live in India on my western side is top gear and on my eastern side is Miroshi.
Love them both.
0:22
ADVAN_GALの福沢さん
現在は脇阪寿一夫人
Nice video man you earned yourself another subscriber.