He is gorgeous and did a great job but Mr. Rochester was not handsome. Varonil/ manly/masculine yes handsome no. Love the quote from the book “you’re are as pretty as I am handsome.”
Kenyan Bunnie -- YES! David Rintoul! That's my favorite P&P! At first (and I saw it before the Firth adaptation) I thought him too severe, even for Darcy, but it was all worth it when he finally smiles... Gosh, that smile! *Melt*
I'm so obsessed with this version, this is the 8th day in a row watching the whole movie. I just love Jane and Mr. Rochester, they're literally perfect, like they're so perfect that they made me cry [too much]. Just------ perfection
I think I prefer the most unfortunately forgotten Michael Jayston's Rochester in the 1973 version. I think Dayton portays well the dark side of Rochester (although sometimes he overacts), but not the light, funny side Rochester also has.
@@ditsashihurkar4913 Yes, I agree, both of them were good in their interpretation of Rochester's character, each in their own way. They deserved better Janes, both of them. I wish that Ruth Wilson would had been en either of those magnificent versions of the great novel. Cheers.
Timothy Dalton seemed like a poor casting choice at first, which is why I had never bothered with this version before. But I see that he has the gruff manner of speech down, and his acting is generally very much in line with the novel's characterization of Rochester. I find that I immediately forget that Dalton is handsome and totally suspend disbelief. Best version of Jane Eyre that I have seen so far.
Miss Poste *argw27 Rochester was rough looking and unattractive. Dalton isn’t really either. Just stern looking and intimidating. Jane is plain and this Jane is quite plain (pretty but kind of plain). I just pretend Dalton is uglier than he is lol
@Miss Poste *argw27 Thanks! I was trying to find my book to find those descriptions! He was certainly Vulcan rather than Greecian, so I think it works. Blanche even says she doesn't want a fancy pretty boy like were fashionable because she wants a monopoly on the looks. Anyway, that seems to imply the description of not being "handsome" would just mean not classically handsome.
@Miss Poste *argw27 In descript the book avowed it is Orson who epitomized Rochester me thinks a worthwhile reflection. In the book not a man endowed looks cleverly pretty in consumed appearances, but careless rugged as naturally shook by his grief in mourning the loss of destiny a fulfilled man, who jaded in his youth past forlorn was sensitive to finer feelings like poetic expressions in extraordinary. In articulation his taste refined of beauty he understood Love from a distance having approached it nearly, he thought in mind true but it never materialised as a Reality but was defeated everytime, dimmed and overcast himself heart-sore cast lowly. His only consolation robbed from himself no comfort to be found.. His engaging elements consist of more than normal attraction a surface review. Handsome in regal power displayed of determination energised masterful as dominating. A commanding fearless, but docile in love, as tamed by deep, abiding affections what was meant his enduring qualities were more than merely handsome, as good looking..rather Love's illuminate inside shown ...afire his passionate heart resolute in love.., brown eyes aglow like softly burning embers such shining warmth of character to be trusted in all things noble. Errant only in greatest sorrow he felt to be his last in final chance at redemption., afraid he should die alone and unloved.. fallen such depths acute misery of despairing unbearable led him astray. . Her love latter exposed him a man among men rising...evolving all his days better than before, never receding in bonds of affection both truly loving.
Thank you for posting these episodes. I enjoyed every minute. The acting is so straight and nicely performed. Jane Eyre is my best novel, I read it thousand times.
"at least, shake hands..." Rochester is a goner. he was from the moment she bewitched his horse but he's in the thick of it now. there's this thing about a girl like Jane, she's not quite the eye-catching beauty inspiring lust at first sight or even love; if and when a girl like that makes her place into someone's heart, it is like a slow building angsty thing - a night of lust won't cut it. a lifetime may or may not be enuf. rochester is gone off the deep end.
This version is indeed the best. Rochester, Jane, St. John, Blanche, Mrs Fairfax, Mrs Reed are all played as best as the book told. All casts are perfect for their role especially mr Rochester, and St. John. I also like Blanche Ingram cast, the way she acted, and she’s beautiful and the arrogant way of her speak, move, and look, exactly portrayed the typical arrogant rich lady then.
Mary Tamm (Blanche Ingram) played Romana in Doctor Who. I met her at a Doctor Who convention some years ago. She was very good at playing that type of role. Sadly she passed away a few years ago.
Kudos to the BBC for dramatizing the crackling dialogue from the book instead of bastardizing it out of recognition. All other adaptations are sh*t, excuse my language.
Very great perfect and splaneed muvie which i have seen many times.It's penetrate deeply and inspires mostly.It's my favarite film which i like most of all. Especially Mr Rochester a very handsome man who deserves all praises and better dignities he has he is very agreeable considerable and very talantive actor from Got Amen! ❤
Before she answers his question at 24:34, I think she should ask him: “If your guests insulted me and humiliated me night after night, would you force me to be in their presence every evening?”
The version of adaption makes me feel real, real Jane and Rochester should look like this rather than other version of adaptions. Rochester should not be so cold and ill. He was attracted to Jane at the very beginning.
The only spectator in the audience, to whom the true "charade" message about the chained marriage to a mindless beauty is intended, is - Jane. Rochester had intentionally staged and planned absolutely everything, in advance. He understands, that Jane is intelligent, but naive and obed-ient to societal norms, and, once, at some point, the true state of his affairs would surface, she would resent him. As this would be a matter of self-respect for her not to become his mistress in social lens. But this primer visual message about his prior ill-going marriage will eventually be analysed by Jane in retrospective. Or, at least this is his hope. In his own perception, he is fully honest with Jane from the start of their relationship, as he had made an attempt to convey the information about his state through non-verbal means way in advance of his proposal. What is peculiar, is how Ch. Bronte, being a female, had been able to portray such a perplexed masculine character to a finest detail. TD acting work is beyond perfection.
I look at this Mr. Rochester differently. Perhaps, I see him the way Jane sees him. Not handsome to the eye, but as his charisma comes out his features change and then voilà he turns into Timothy Dalton. I've met men less desirable to look upon, but when you see the beauty of their soul, they become more attractive.
Как хорошо, что я перешла с не очень удачно дублированной на мой язык версии и услышала их настоящие голоса! Они такие выразительные и чувственные, невероятно!
Timoty dalton is the most handsome rochester to play that character although this is the 3rd version i ve watched i still cnt tell whos version is the best...but i love timoty his very hot and handsome😘😘my heart😇😇😇😇😗😗😗😗
It's seems that blanche not only she doesn't like governesses she also dislikes Ms Fairfax is like when she sees her is like she saying the moment I become Mrs Rochester and the lady of this house you'll be fire and I will hire someone else
Because he's Timothy Dalton. When I saw who was playing Rochester, I couldn't believe it. The handsome James Bond playing Rochester! Try as they could, they couldn't make him ugly. Her on the other hand, well, if they wanted plain , they got it .But them together, I just can't see it.
Dalton is so good like Gipsy lady... it is one of my favorite scenes in the book, but here it's pity they shorted it..and I'm so bored by the end of his transfiguration, he didn't jump and laugh, but quite the opposite!! but Dalton is brilliant!!
Yes, in the novel, Jane figures it out. He drops out of character a bit. Jane is curious and refuses to leave when the gypsy bids her to. So the gypsy waves her arms to get Jane to leave, and then Jane sees Rochester's ring.
I'm sure Charlotte Bronte could never have imagined what would become of her "Jane Eyre" novel. This 1983 is the very closest to the book. Such great actors as these made the book come alive. Some say Timothy Dalton is too handsome, and Zelah Clark not plain enough, but who knows what the early 1800s considered plain or handsome. The only problem with most adaptations is that Adele is too old. The book reads around 6 years of age, most all look about 9 or 10. The 1943 movie has her age right. Of course no movie will get every part exact.
thats the famost Mozart Sonate Nr. 11 KV 331, the easiest 1. part, which each piano pupil have to play in his first years. its a mean artist competition between Janes Piano playing in part 4 as beginner after 1 year piano lessons, against the high accomplished society lady, which should play after years lessons, at least the last part of this sonate, more virtuos Alla Turca. But also Blanche plays only "quite well", very mechanical like a automat, she hits right pitches, but without any emotional or talented partification, like 2 years piano lessons. So Rochester demonstrates Jane, that she isn't superior to Jane not even in the main occupation of high society ladys. Remember the comparison between Liz and Darcys sister too. But Jane didn't beware that, because she doesn t know that and listen only that she plays better than her.
Zelah is the best Jane and she has the most beautiful eyes and kind, cheeky face. Also, correct me if i'm wrong, but does Grace Pool, look a tad "manish", somewhat a man in drag, playing at being a female?
The actor for Rochester is not ugly (I can admit I would have known that even without reading countless assertions by girls in the comments sections), but other than that he is an utterly perfect Rochester! ... however, the question is, how important is it, especially in the Blanche Ingram scenes, that he be actually ugly?
None. He is married with Bertha Mason. He had the intention to marry Blanche. She is only the paesant figure on his chess game winning his Dame Jane. And Blanche, whom he refused just 7 years ago, is only interest in his propriety and money and status like all other maitresses before. And Bronté didn't write "ugly", but she describes his athletic shape and hard sharpe face as not according to the beauty ideal of the time (This was the femalelike pale, bright, fragil type like composer Bellini) with beautiful big dark eyes and hairs. He is the typical black, mysterious brooding Byronic type. And in the book he tells Jane himself, that because of his bad experiences of "spoiled women" like Bertha, Blanche, and his 3 maitresses Celine, Clara and Giacinta, which follow the capitalistic principe of love (possessing, opticals, status) he is looking for the OPPOSITE of these women-Typ, and so he wants ONLY a innocent, intelligent, unpretentious, NOT beautiful women like Jane, for whom he would risk to committ the offense of bigamy betrayel (means also in these times: prison), and social ostracism, which wouldn't harm him as "rich and useless" aristocratic but the existential downfall for Jane. So the question is rather: What would be happen, if he really wasn't RICH anymore: if f.e. he lost with the burned Thornfield also all his propriety and would be dependent by Janes heritage. And you see this concept too: Also when he is beautiful, that doesn't mean, that he found a love, would be married or only a lover: The romantic authors fight firstly against the capitalistic positivism/realism and pretended an ideal of individual love deteched from superficial optical statusideas like the capitalistic merkantile love-concept of today. Romantism in the literature-/philosophy/ history sense meant: not be sentimental BUT abolishing the ideas of Enlightenment, Revolution, Realism and Industrialisation and return to the christians ideal of Middle Age, BUT (romantic poets were a bit confused) with humanrights ideas like self-realization and individuality and sensuality and nationalism. So the romantic Love-Concept om Jane Eyre properly is the OPPOSITE of todays relationship pattern, in which each man/woman is arbitrarily interchangeable, if he isn't immediately sexually available or has no use for the status or goal in life. Love without any conditions and advantages as concept, which meanns also waiting for the beloved one 3-12 month till Bertha kills herself (what was foreseeable), careing for him when he is ill (Description what he would have done when Jane would be mad) . The story would be the same, ife Rochester would be the most handsome Man on the world. It has no influence on the story. And Rochester, also after Berthas death would never take a woman again, which is not "innocent" , like millions of women, who believe to could seduce eachone, tried to get the indepedent Dalton, who never want to marry. So beauty has no power in this concept. And many many heroes in romantic novels world wide, favorize the "ugly" or not beauty heroes, look only Wuthering Heights, ot at least "Beauty and the beast"-Concept.... And both not beauty in this sense, but founding eachother beautiful, are using this "ugly" Concept as teasing flirt theme, she because she is teasing his vanity with his clothes and he because he wants know how she stands for him, through the whole book and the film. It wouldn't be make sense, when he would be really really ugly and listen till their reunion: "You are so ugly", when he is it. But it strikes when he has his own individual attractivity.
@@lipazdotan4021 No, I assure you, he did not. It was not jealousy that she was feeling. It was humiliation. Also in the book, Rochester eggs Blanche on with insulting Jane as well. Jane states in the book that she was not really jealous. She could tell Rochester did not like Blanche. As for Rochester, he did not want her to be forward. It's a bit more complex than that. He wanted to see IF her tears were from jealousy, and perhaps if he could spur her into accepting his advances through anger towards Blanche. totally crude and unhealthy way of going about it, and I would not like to see a nice girl like Jane stuck with such a brute as Rochester. I wish she had a little bit more spirit, and had told him to look for another governess. As for the actress, she has the emotional presence of a blank sheet of paper.
@user-rm7zf4bw2b: He knew perfectly why she was depressed. She felt both humiliated and jealous. And sad because she sees Mr. Rochester unattainable due to the social class difference. Mr Rochester flirts with Miss Ingran with the full intention of seeing if Jane will get jealous.
In the scene in his bedroom she looks so miserable and scared that doesn't feel strange the actress never got another good oportunity to shine in another film or series.
i was really hoping they would include rochester’s line of “goodnight, my-...” where he stops himself, in the book. i feel like that would’ve been more accurate, however he puts his hand to her chin already, maybe they thought it would be too much/too obvious?
Pity we see too little of the lovely Mary Tamm as Blanche Ingram. I understand much of her part went on the cutting room floor. She, of course, was the first Romana in Doctor Who. She died a few years ago.
+Rosalie Honing It is never actually stated outright but she was with her Aunty from infancy and her Aunt Reed made sure her three children were well-fed but not so much Jane who she disliked. That probably explains Jane's smaller stature (in the novel) especially in comparison to her cousins. And then, as a teenager, she was extremely underfed at the Lowood Institute. So, it is logical she would not have grown as tall as she might have if fed properly. Charlotte Bronte's own sister died from typhus 3 months after coming home from a similar institution/school having caught it at school after being underfed and poorly cared for (along with her fellow boarders). Very sad.
Jane Eyre in the book is very small because Charlotte Bronte quite likely based Jane on herself - and she was very small - apparently only 4ft 7'' which is something like 147 cm. That is why I always disliked movie versions of Jane Eyre - the actresses were always too tall and too pretty to be credible as Jane Eyre. Jane Eyre was very short and not pretty at all (just like Charlotte Bronte). Zelah Clarke is short and I like that. It is how it's supposed to be when they do it right.
She IS Jane Eyre!! I read this at 10 & 50 years later it, Pride and Prejudice, Sense and Sensibility, Rebecca, Mansfield Park are my escape from reality. Oh yeah, Silas Marner and the Yearling too! The movie of The Yearling with Jayne Wyman is THE best!! SO sad that kids nowadays don't have School Reading Lists any more. A good book may break your ♡ but it will never leave you!! ♡♡Please Stay Safe Everyone!!♡♡
i find it immensely ironic that rochester points out in the previous episode (and book as well) that jane knows nothing of being jealous, because immediately after, he returns with some hotshot beauty and is practically rubbing it in jane’s face. i don’t really think he and her are doing it to make jane jealous (rochester wishes to be with her for her beauty and class, blanche for rochester’s wealth) however it happens QUITE conveniently
No he planned that to make Jane jealous, and uses Blanche like a chess paesant figure to catch Jane as Dame figure, because he understood in the fire night, that Jane never would agree his proposal or a love relationship 1. because of the social barriere 2. because of her selfrespect and discipline 3. for convenient religious reasons, which Jane never would injured, because he know that he is not allowed to marry als married man, also Blanche not. He planned all precisly also his Jane-chain-marriage-Charade and the Gypsy scene to drop her feelings out to him, to know whether he should propose the socially and illegally risk marriage to her or not. Because he is married and risk jail because of bigamie.
I’m far removed from the U.K. so please forgive my question if it seems stupid! Does Rochester appear to have a slight Scottish accent when he speaks to Mason in the hallway just before the stabbing incident? If so, I don’t know why. Thornfield Hall wasn’t near the borderland. Does anyone know? Thanks!
I’m Welsh and can hear a lot of the Welsh accent and intonation in his voice but as has been said, he didn’t live in Wales for long so I don’t know why he has that in his voice. It could be heard in the late Alan Rickman’s wonderful voice too but his mother, was Welsh.
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With his hair like that after the fire. Lord have mercy...
Jane Cookson Yes, it is disconcerting and hard to concentrate on the story
I just ADMIRE how good these actors are at memorizing
Truit...
I don't get the joke.
His eyes when she leaves him alone..so hurted... exquisite actor...he plays even with the glance
Dalton is a superb actor. Though like Toby Stephens, was too handsome for the role as Rochester was supposed to be unattractive. :)
У него самые красивые глаза и лицо, какие могут ❤быть у мужчины.
hurted?
The whole series is a diamond in every aspect.
Wrong
Dalton is gorgeous an oh! that voice.....
Not gonna argue that!!
He is gorgeous and did a great job but Mr. Rochester was not handsome. Varonil/ manly/masculine yes handsome no. Love the quote from the book “you’re are as pretty as I am handsome.”
Dalton has the most beautiful eyes and voice..
The gorgeous Dalton, so perfect for the role. What a Mr Darcy he would have made!
Dalton may present a better Darcy than Firth, but will he be too old for Darcy?
Lim Chi He would have been way too old!
Lim Chi I loved the actor who played Darcy in the 80s version of P&P!
Oh God, he would have been shockingly sexy!
Kenyan Bunnie -- YES! David Rintoul! That's my favorite P&P! At first (and I saw it before the Firth adaptation) I thought him too severe, even for Darcy, but it was all worth it when he finally smiles... Gosh, that smile! *Melt*
I'm so obsessed with this version, this is the 8th day in a row watching the whole movie. I just love Jane and Mr. Rochester, they're literally perfect, like they're so perfect that they made me cry [too much]. Just------ perfection
me to, saw it now at least 20 times completly.
I disagree this show is trash
It IS a very good adaptation. And quite faithful to the book. :)
God, Rochester looks so good in the fire aftermath scene!
24:39 "I would stay with any friend, I will stay with you. Why?"
I love that :') so many quotable moments in Jane Eyre.
I think almost every page in the book had such beautiful quotable lines.
He's too handsome, but he perfectly plays the role of Mr. Rochester.
Yes mmmmmmmmm
@@christinacoulthard6713 Indeed he does impeccably though eye candy the female audiences.
I think I prefer the most unfortunately forgotten Michael Jayston's Rochester in the 1973 version. I think Dayton portays well the dark side of Rochester (although sometimes he overacts), but not the light, funny side Rochester also has.
@@ditsashihurkar4913 Yes, I agree, both of them were good in their interpretation of Rochester's character, each in their own way. They deserved better Janes, both of them. I wish that Ruth Wilson would had been en either of those magnificent versions of the great novel. Cheers.
God. He's gorgeous
Timothy Dalton seemed like a poor casting choice at first, which is why I had never bothered with this version before. But I see that he has the gruff manner of speech down, and his acting is generally very much in line with the novel's characterization of Rochester. I find that I immediately forget that Dalton is handsome and totally suspend disbelief.
Best version of Jane Eyre that I have seen so far.
bellyful ochelly
Miss Poste *argw27 Rochester was rough looking and unattractive. Dalton isn’t really either. Just stern looking and intimidating. Jane is plain and this Jane is quite plain (pretty but kind of plain). I just pretend Dalton is uglier than he is lol
@Miss Poste *argw27 Thanks! I was trying to find my book to find those descriptions! He was certainly Vulcan rather than Greecian, so I think it works. Blanche even says she doesn't want a fancy pretty boy like were fashionable because she wants a monopoly on the looks. Anyway, that seems to imply the description of not being "handsome" would just mean not classically handsome.
I suspect so....
@Miss Poste *argw27 In descript the book avowed it is Orson who epitomized Rochester me thinks a worthwhile reflection.
In the book not a man endowed looks cleverly pretty in consumed appearances, but careless rugged as naturally shook by his grief in mourning the loss of destiny a fulfilled man, who jaded in his youth past forlorn was sensitive to finer feelings like poetic expressions in extraordinary. In articulation his taste refined of beauty he understood Love from a distance having approached it nearly, he thought in mind true but it never materialised as a Reality but was defeated everytime, dimmed and overcast himself heart-sore cast lowly. His only consolation robbed from himself no comfort to be found..
His engaging elements consist of more than normal attraction a surface review. Handsome in regal power displayed of determination energised masterful as dominating. A commanding fearless, but docile in love, as tamed by deep, abiding affections what was meant his enduring qualities were more than merely handsome, as good looking..rather Love's illuminate inside shown ...afire his passionate heart resolute in love.., brown eyes aglow like softly burning embers such shining warmth of character to be trusted in all things noble. Errant only in greatest sorrow he felt to be his last in final chance at redemption., afraid he should die alone and unloved.. fallen such depths acute misery of despairing unbearable led him astray. .
Her love latter exposed him a man among men rising...evolving all his days better than before, never receding in bonds of affection both truly loving.
The Chemistry between Timothy Dalton and Zelah Clarke is on Existance
"on Existance?" What does that mean?
In fire scene in the novel, Rochester is standing in a soaking wet nightgown. Opportunity lost....
:(
haha wrote this 6 months ago and am rewatching now
Alyssa Foster me too I feel like I watch this even couple of months
It's hard for me to imagine him in nightgown and barefoot... ;D
Um the Fassbender Rochester did take advantage of that quirk.
Thank you for posting these episodes. I enjoyed every minute. The acting is so straight and nicely performed. Jane Eyre is my best novel, I read it thousand times.
You're welcome!
Timothy Dalton is like a Greek god come to life
agreed
Maybe he is..
I do agree i fantasise about him every night
Every time I see Mason I think Jimmy Fallon in a bad wig.
and now i can't unsee that. thanks...
We need to make this a meme.
"at least, shake hands..." Rochester is a goner. he was from the moment she bewitched his horse but he's in the thick of it now.
there's this thing about a girl like Jane, she's not quite the eye-catching beauty inspiring lust at first sight or even love; if and when a girl like that makes her place into someone's heart, it is like a slow building angsty thing - a night of lust won't cut it. a lifetime may or may not be enuf. rochester is gone off the deep end.
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Что вы заладили, тимоти Далтон это красота, а тоби ничего особенного.
This version is indeed the best. Rochester, Jane, St. John, Blanche, Mrs Fairfax, Mrs Reed are all played as best as the book told. All casts are perfect for their role especially mr Rochester, and St. John. I also like Blanche Ingram cast, the way she acted, and she’s beautiful and the arrogant way of her speak, move, and look, exactly portrayed the typical arrogant rich lady then.
Mary Tamm (Blanche Ingram) played Romana in Doctor Who. I met her at a Doctor Who convention some years ago. She was very good at playing that type of role. Sadly she passed away a few years ago.
13:19 I love how he see right through Jane. How he care for her feelings. One of my favorite scenes.
If he cred for her feelings he wouldn't have been so ready to torture her to secure his own selfish happiness.
THE GYPSY SCENE KILLED ME XD
First time I've seen it. How clever.
Kudos to the BBC for dramatizing the crackling dialogue from the book instead of bastardizing it out of recognition. All other adaptations are sh*t, excuse my language.
Very great perfect and splaneed muvie which i have seen many times.It's penetrate deeply and inspires mostly.It's my favarite film which i like most of all. Especially Mr Rochester a very handsome man who deserves all praises and better dignities he has he is very agreeable considerable and very talantive actor from Got Amen!
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Before she answers his question at 24:34, I think she should ask him: “If your guests insulted me and humiliated me night after night, would you force me to be in their presence every evening?”
Such a nice quality of the recording; many thanks!
Filiomena You're welcome!
January's Moon Thank you so much for this, I watch it multiple times! Lol!
The version of adaption makes me feel real, real Jane and Rochester should look like this rather than other version of adaptions. Rochester should not be so cold and ill. He was attracted to Jane at the very beginning.
**sigh** I wish men dressed more like this today instead of baggy pants & plumbers cracks.
The only spectator in the audience, to whom the true "charade" message about the chained marriage to a mindless beauty is intended, is - Jane. Rochester had intentionally staged and planned absolutely everything, in advance. He understands, that Jane is intelligent, but naive and obed-ient to societal norms, and, once, at some point, the true state of his affairs would surface, she would resent him. As this would be a matter of self-respect for her not to become his mistress in social lens. But this primer visual message about his prior ill-going marriage will eventually be analysed by Jane in retrospective. Or, at least this is his hope. In his own perception, he is fully honest with Jane from the start of their relationship, as he had made an attempt to convey the information about his state through non-verbal means way in advance of his proposal. What is peculiar, is how Ch. Bronte, being a female, had been able to portray such a perplexed masculine character to a finest detail. TD acting work is beyond perfection.
"Janed marriage" 😂
The gypsy scene is a killer but in the novel it is even more brilliant as Jane discoveres by herself that it is Rochester...
Yes Dalton does one of the best gypsies.
was so much better when she discovered him but this is so good!
I love the exchange of words between Jane and the gypsy in the book, esp. the part about Jane being "cold, sick, and silly."
If Timothy Dalton is supposed to be ugly then I cannot imagine how handsome is going to be portrayed in this story.
This is my favorite adaptation by far.
There is chemistry between the actors which i rarely see! To take time is key.
13:26 "not the least, sir." :) Jane is so lovely.
I look at this Mr. Rochester differently. Perhaps, I see him the way Jane sees him. Not handsome to the eye, but as his charisma comes out his features change and then voilà he turns into Timothy Dalton. I've met men less desirable to look upon, but when you see the beauty of their soul, they become more attractive.
That is true.
That look Mr. Rochester gave Mason when he entered the library was so scary. You can tell there will never be any love lost between them.
I AM SO GLAD THEY DID THE FORTUNE TELLING SCENE THE WAY IT WAS IN THE BOOKS!
I believe the 1973 production did so too. Both of these versions were quite faithful to the book.
Как хорошо, что я перешла с не очень удачно дублированной на мой язык версии и услышала их настоящие голоса! Они такие выразительные и чувственные, невероятно!
Timoty dalton is the most handsome rochester to play that character although this is the 3rd version i ve watched i still cnt tell whos version is the best...but i love timoty his very hot and handsome😘😘my heart😇😇😇😇😗😗😗😗
This Jane is picture perfect!
Actor shows British gentlemen from his spirit, so excellent😊
I saw this when it first aired on tv. Thanks for showing it !
+jankevin2 You're welcome!
It's seems that blanche not only she doesn't like governesses she also dislikes Ms Fairfax is like when she sees her is like she saying the moment I become Mrs Rochester and the lady of this house you'll be fire and I will hire someone else
Я готова идеально выучить английский, чтобы смотреть этот шедевр...
WHY DOES HE LOOK CUTE
Because he's Timothy Dalton. When I saw who was playing Rochester, I couldn't believe it. The handsome James Bond playing Rochester! Try as they could, they couldn't make him ugly. Her on the other hand, well, if they wanted plain , they got it .But them together, I just can't see it.
No thats actually rochester playing james bond.
Agreed! The after the fire scene he does look very cute with his hair tousled. He’s just about the most handsome man I’ve ever seen in film.
haha replying to my own comment 2 years after Im so sad...
Es evidente que Dalton tiene una gran versatilidad en su voz. Me engañó por completo. Qué gran actor y qué poco valorado. He is so under-rated.
My favourite , have watched it many a time, thanks for uploading
He's so very Welsh! I had a Welsh man in love with me, once
Dalton is so good like Gipsy lady... it is one of my favorite scenes in the book, but here it's pity they shorted it..and I'm so bored by the end of his transfiguration, he didn't jump and laugh, but quite the opposite!! but Dalton is brilliant!!
Yes, in the novel, Jane figures it out. He drops out of character a bit. Jane is curious and refuses to leave when the gypsy bids her to. So the gypsy waves her arms to get Jane to leave, and then Jane sees Rochester's ring.
Thank you, Jan. moon. Much obliged. The 1840s were it.
I would be pissed if I was made to sit through being insulted night after night.
Mason kinda looks like Jimmy Fallon.
OH MY GOODNESS I THOUGHT THAT TOO😂😂😂
Nooooo!!! Now I can't stop seeing him as Jimmy Fallon! Hahaha can't beleive I never saw it before!
i read this before he appeared on screen and the minute he did i cackled!! he really does!!
😭😭🤣 jimmy fallon all the way
After 35 years, I'm still wondering.... The funny and yummy Gypsy scene. Is that really Dalton's voice?
Hye Angels Same here!
23:25 LMFAO! This is totally priceless
What a great couple 🥰
Jane is so tiny compared to him :)
Zelah Clarke initially trained to be a ballet dancer
True. I think she was only about 5 ft. tall. Dalton is a tall man. So the height difference is massive.
I'm sure Charlotte Bronte could never have imagined what would become of her "Jane Eyre" novel. This 1983 is the very closest to the book. Such great actors as these made the book come alive. Some say Timothy Dalton is too handsome, and Zelah Clark not plain enough, but who knows what the early 1800s considered plain or handsome. The only problem with most adaptations is that Adele is too old. The book reads around 6 years of age, most all look about 9 or 10. The 1943 movie has her age right. Of course no movie will get every part exact.
Best version ever!
Enjoying this so far, thanks a lot.
How does he make his voice like that?! At the witch scene..Amazing actor
"Reflect" So classy English.
16:13 "that same afternoon a stranger arrived at Thornfield"...a time traveller too..is that Jimmy Fallon?!?!?!?
For such an older (yet insanely amazing) version, the scene @13:50 is INCREDIBLY 🥵🥵🥵.
Dalton the georgous Mr Rochester, but his acting of this role of the ugly one, incredible...but cmon, hard to think of him as anything but sexy!
it is very good serial
Thanks soo much this has helped me lots for my exam! 😘
That tune that lady Ingraham plays on the Piano was also in the twilight zone episode, the miniature
It's a classic one that's why.
thats the famost Mozart Sonate Nr. 11 KV 331, the easiest 1. part, which each piano pupil have to play in his first years. its a mean artist competition between Janes Piano playing in part 4 as beginner after 1 year piano lessons, against the high accomplished society lady, which should play after years lessons, at least the last part of this sonate, more virtuos Alla Turca. But also Blanche plays only "quite well", very mechanical like a automat, she hits right pitches, but without any emotional or talented partification, like 2 years piano lessons. So Rochester demonstrates Jane, that she isn't superior to Jane not even in the main occupation of high society ladys. Remember the comparison between Liz and Darcys sister too. But Jane didn't beware that, because she doesn t know that and listen only that she plays better than her.
2:20 he needs her affection omg
thanks for posting.
Mr Rochester ❤️❤️
He seemed sociable lol
Sociable!😂
Zelah is the best Jane and she has the most beautiful eyes and kind, cheeky face. Also, correct me if i'm wrong, but does Grace Pool, look a tad "manish", somewhat a man in drag, playing at being a female?
Oh, she did NOT just blank Mrs Fairfax!
i luv this movie
It's a tv series not a film. A film is not 5 and a half hours long.
hhhhhhhhh I have an exam tomorrow about this chapter thank you so much for this
The actor for Rochester is not ugly (I can admit I would have known that even without reading countless assertions by girls in the comments sections), but other than that he is an utterly perfect Rochester! ... however, the question is, how important is it, especially in the Blanche Ingram scenes, that he be actually ugly?
None. He is married with Bertha Mason. He had the intention to marry Blanche. She is only the paesant figure on his chess game winning his Dame Jane. And Blanche, whom he refused just 7 years ago, is only interest in his propriety and money and status like all other maitresses before. And Bronté didn't write "ugly", but she describes his athletic shape and hard sharpe face as not according to the beauty ideal of the time (This was the femalelike pale, bright, fragil type like composer Bellini) with beautiful big dark eyes and hairs. He is the typical black, mysterious brooding Byronic type. And in the book he tells Jane himself, that because of his bad experiences of "spoiled women" like Bertha, Blanche, and his 3 maitresses Celine, Clara and Giacinta, which follow the capitalistic principe of love (possessing, opticals, status) he is looking for the OPPOSITE of these women-Typ, and so he wants ONLY a innocent, intelligent, unpretentious, NOT beautiful women like Jane, for whom he would risk to committ the offense of bigamy betrayel (means also in these times: prison), and social ostracism, which wouldn't harm him as "rich and useless" aristocratic but the existential downfall for Jane. So the question is rather: What would be happen, if he really wasn't RICH anymore: if f.e. he lost with the burned Thornfield also all his propriety and would be dependent by Janes heritage.
And you see this concept too: Also when he is beautiful, that doesn't mean, that he found a love, would be married or only a lover: The romantic authors fight firstly against the capitalistic positivism/realism and pretended an ideal of individual love deteched from superficial optical statusideas like the capitalistic merkantile love-concept of today. Romantism in the literature-/philosophy/ history sense meant: not be sentimental BUT abolishing the ideas of Enlightenment, Revolution, Realism and Industrialisation and return to the christians ideal of Middle Age, BUT (romantic poets were a bit confused) with humanrights ideas like self-realization and individuality and sensuality and nationalism.
So the romantic Love-Concept om Jane Eyre properly is the OPPOSITE of todays relationship pattern, in which each man/woman is arbitrarily interchangeable, if he isn't immediately sexually available or has no use for the status or goal in life. Love without any conditions and advantages as concept, which meanns also waiting for the beloved one 3-12 month till Bertha kills herself (what was foreseeable), careing for him when he is ill (Description what he would have done when Jane would be mad) . The story would be the same, ife Rochester would be the most handsome Man on the world. It has no influence on the story. And Rochester, also after Berthas death would never take a woman again, which is not "innocent" , like millions of women, who believe to could seduce eachone, tried to get the indepedent Dalton, who never want to marry. So beauty has no power in this concept. And many many heroes in romantic novels world wide, favorize the "ugly" or not beauty heroes, look only Wuthering Heights, ot at least "Beauty and the beast"-Concept....
And both not beauty in this sense, but founding eachother beautiful, are using this "ugly" Concept as teasing flirt theme, she because she is teasing his vanity with his clothes and he because he wants know how she stands for him, through the whole book and the film. It wouldn't be make sense, when he would be really really ugly and listen till their reunion: "You are so ugly", when he is it. But it strikes when he has his own individual attractivity.
How could he wonder why Jane was depressed, since she had been so cruelly insulted by Blanche and Lady Ingram?
He knew perfectly well why. He wanted her to acknowledge her jealousy and be forward with him about it.
@@lipazdotan4021 No, I assure you, he did not. It was not jealousy that she was feeling. It was humiliation. Also in the book, Rochester eggs Blanche on with insulting Jane as well. Jane states in the book that she was not really jealous. She could tell Rochester did not like Blanche.
As for Rochester, he did not want her to be forward. It's a bit more complex than that. He wanted to see IF her tears were from jealousy, and perhaps if he could spur her into accepting his advances through anger towards Blanche. totally crude and unhealthy way of going about it, and I would not like to see a nice girl like Jane stuck with such a brute as Rochester. I wish she had a little bit more spirit, and had told him to look for another governess. As for the actress, she has the emotional presence of a blank sheet of paper.
@@user-rm7zf4bw2b i agree about the expressions of the actress, i'm kind of upset because she really does not act like the jane eyre in the book.
@user-rm7zf4bw2b: He knew perfectly why she was depressed. She felt both humiliated and jealous. And sad because she sees Mr. Rochester unattainable due to the social class difference. Mr Rochester flirts with Miss Ingran with the full intention of seeing if Jane will get jealous.
My favorite 😁🇦🇺
In the scene in his bedroom she looks so miserable and scared that doesn't feel strange the actress never got another good oportunity to shine in another film or series.
Zelah Clarke decided it wasn't worth the trouble. But she was also in Charles Dickens' Dombey and Son as Susan Nipper
@@missyadams I kind of remember that. But that wasn't a very small part? Or I'm confused?
@@reinadegrillos was not a small part. Susan Nipper was Florence Dombey's nurse in the story and was in almost every episode
@@missyadams Ok. Thanks. I must have been confused with another series or program I watched some years ago..
@@reinadegrillos I know the one you mean, she had a small role in it as a maid in one episode. The Duchess of Duke Street
i was really hoping they would include rochester’s line of “goodnight, my-...” where he stops himself, in the book. i feel like that would’ve been more accurate, however he puts his hand to her chin already, maybe they thought it would be too much/too obvious?
He says that just before the garden scene where Jane tells him she loves him...
CABAHAB ohhh, i must’ve missed that
4:16 She leaves the room still wearing his cloak... I know it's only a goof, but how does she explain that?? 😉
he is soooo sweet
I always wondered if Blanch and Rochester, seeing as they're just friends, helped to create or stir something in Jane?
Rochester deliberately flirted with Blanche Ingram in order to make Jane jealous. Blanche was only after Rochester for his money.
Mary Tamm!!! Fantastic! Oh, bless her. Oh, oh, chocking up here!
He’s so ....doable
English society is so class conscious this stuff is what dreams are made of.
Pity we see too little of the lovely Mary Tamm as Blanche Ingram. I understand much of her part went on the cutting room floor. She, of course, was the first Romana in Doctor Who. She died a few years ago.
He's manipulating her and I don't like it.
So you're saying she's an idiot and can't act of her own free will?
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Why is jane so small? i'm reading this book
+Rosalie Honing It is never actually stated outright but she was with her Aunty from infancy and her Aunt Reed made sure her three children were well-fed but not so much Jane who she disliked. That probably explains Jane's smaller stature (in the novel) especially in comparison to her cousins. And then, as a teenager, she was extremely underfed at the Lowood Institute. So, it is logical she would not have grown as tall as she might have if fed properly.
Charlotte Bronte's own sister died from typhus 3 months after coming home from a similar institution/school having caught it at school after being underfed and poorly cared for (along with her fellow boarders). Very sad.
Jane Eyre in the book is very small because Charlotte Bronte quite likely based Jane on herself - and she was very small - apparently only 4ft 7'' which is something like 147 cm. That is why I always disliked movie versions of Jane Eyre - the actresses were always too tall and too pretty to be credible as Jane Eyre. Jane Eyre was very short and not pretty at all (just like Charlotte Bronte). Zelah Clarke is short and I like that. It is how it's supposed to be when they do it right.
@@cultmamacultmama3571 Zelah Clarke initially trained to be a ballet dancer. Imagine her small form in socks and a tutu on stage ☺️
She IS Jane Eyre!! I read this at 10 & 50 years later it, Pride and Prejudice, Sense and Sensibility, Rebecca, Mansfield Park are my escape from reality. Oh yeah, Silas Marner and the Yearling too! The movie of The Yearling with Jayne Wyman is THE best!! SO sad that kids nowadays don't have School Reading Lists any more. A good book may break your ♡ but it will never leave you!! ♡♡Please Stay Safe Everyone!!♡♡
My only comment: instruments sound better today.
And Jane looks like that one Aunt that bakes really well (from cakes to macaroni and cheese pies). I just want to hug her XD
i find it immensely ironic that rochester points out in the previous episode (and book as well) that jane knows nothing of being jealous, because immediately after, he returns with some hotshot beauty and is practically rubbing it in jane’s face. i don’t really think he and her are doing it to make jane jealous (rochester wishes to be with her for her beauty and class, blanche for rochester’s wealth) however it happens QUITE conveniently
No he planned that to make Jane jealous, and uses Blanche like a chess paesant figure to catch Jane as Dame figure, because he understood in the fire night, that Jane never would agree his proposal or a love relationship 1. because of the social barriere 2. because of her selfrespect and discipline 3. for convenient religious reasons, which Jane never would injured, because he know that he is not allowed to marry als married man, also Blanche not.
He planned all precisly also his Jane-chain-marriage-Charade and the Gypsy scene to drop her feelings out to him, to know whether he should propose the socially and illegally risk marriage to her or not. Because he is married and risk jail because of bigamie.
He explicitly admits to doing it with the intent of make Jane jealous (therefore more in love with him) in the book.
19:32 “the governess indeed”
Said by the woman who looks like a flower grew upon he head looking as crushed as ever.
I’m far removed from the U.K. so please forgive my question if it seems stupid! Does Rochester appear to have a slight Scottish accent when he speaks to Mason in the hallway just before the stabbing incident? If so, I don’t know why. Thornfield Hall wasn’t near the borderland. Does anyone know? Thanks!
I’m Welsh and can hear a lot of the Welsh accent and intonation in his voice but as has been said, he didn’t live in Wales for long so I don’t know why he has that in his voice. It could be heard in the late Alan Rickman’s wonderful voice too but his mother, was Welsh.
14:50 Chain =Jane. Bride well: the well bride (is) Jane.
What does he say? "I've got a blow, Jane?" Can't make it out! 🙈
I believe it's a phrase that means something has impacted you greatly.
Is that his real voice lmao
And Jane scores one Rochester cloak!
Am i the only one that think Jane looks a little bit like Lana del rey😅
Slightly
Poor woman🤔