i do this myself. I carry the smaller Solo Stove with their Alcohol Burner. The system works very well everywhere. I love the Solo Stove for the simplicity and the ability to use fire in fire ban locations and on nights where I've waited too long to cook and it is getting too dark to collect and process wood, I can and do use the alcohol stove to get my dinner cooked. Also, I too use the US Army Mess Kit as a frying pan. Works well for me. Thanks for putting up this video.
as a former user of whispies (MSR) and stuff like that (Primus, Optimus fuel burners) I carry now Twig Stoves and the Trangia burner, and I am very happy with it! My Whisperlight and old Primus still render wonderful service if I have to feed a lot of campers, or otherwise I can also use my Trangia Stove (25 or 27)... Firebox Nano stove plus pepsi-can alcohol stove is probably the smallest and lightest set one could carry around, and if you are interested in a minimalistic approach towards your trekking gear that is exactly what you should take! Ideally a titanium cooking pot would do best, but as these are not cheap I have being carrying the MSR stainless steel pot (1 L) or the Tatonka Scout set (pot & pan) (both will join my base-camp kitchen as soon as a titanium set is available) Because of the fragility of the pepsi burner I do prefer to have the well proven Trangia burner with me (and the swiss army knife of course)
Here's a one-ounce Trangia knock-off.: www.aliexpress.com/item/33040732479.html And a one-and-a-half-ounces Evernew knock-off: www.aliexpress.com/item/4000054582237.html
I have always made it a point to buy an alcohol burner alongside any twig or tablets stove (ie: my Solo Stove Titan and my ESBIT TREKKER Stove). I also buy an alcohol burner with its own windscreen for a second option when carring a canister stove. Ready made (store bought) alcohol stoves are super inexpensive and take up next to no room in your pack or bag. Buying an extra one to have at-the-ready alongside any new stove kit just always made common sense to me. Taking along an alchohol burner is also an easy way to heat off any moisture from extremely wet wood. Doing that gives you an option to effectively use your twig stove later. As for alchohol stoves, I'm a huge fan of the Trangia brand and the Evernew brand. They have both served me well for many years. That's important to me because I spend as much of my calendar year out doors as possible. I tent camp, motorcycle camp, day hike, boat camp, Kayak camp, and RV. Again, it's just a great way to always have an excellent PLANE B, especially if your PLAN A is a twig stove.
I agree completely. I love my stick stove, but for a few ounces more, I don't have to worry about wood on a rainy day. One thing about the Trangia, that many don't know, is there is a carbon wick inside the double walls to help with vaporization, so it's not just empty space. Also the ridge on it is there so you can put it between your supports, or many stick stoves even have slots. You shoulda bought the extra sticks for your firebox btw! 🙂 I'll be getting the firebox nano this coming spring for solo stuff. I just adore my big gen2, but it's a heavy sucker for one person.
I use a Trangia and a pop can stove a couple times week outside on the patio. Tea, breakfast, dinner, pretty much anything I can make that cooks in under the 25 minute average burn time of the typical burners out there, or those you can make. My pop can stove is about 2" deep, so it lasts longer than the Trangia at about 28-30 minutes, whereas the Trangia lasts about 23-25. But the Trangia primes up almost immediately where the popper takes about 4 minutes to come to full blossom. Both are excellent for backups or as a go-to kit for backpackers. I don't do that, but I do camp out of a canoe and always bring one of several twig type stoves with an alcohol burner. Great tent heaters in the morning for that first cup before rolling out. No prep, just reach over and light it, set the pot on and get up to a warm tent.
Trangia has a linen wick around the inner wall, in the closed part. Put a wick in the "pot can" stove, instead cloth (natural or synthetic) can be just a sheet of pot can aluminum with the same high or inner wall, just a bit more width for make vertical grooves in this piece, for promove capillarity, see LitBitWorks videos for examples.
Trangia with twig stove is my fundamental two methods of cooking outdoors one backs up the other every time. The beauty of a lidded Trangia is if you don't use up all the fuel just put the lid on until the next meal, I would not be without mine :-)
Great video 🙂 I'm a big fan of the alcohol burner and twig stove combo. Tried and tested, I've cooked loads of meals and never let me down yet. I also carry a couple of esbit style alcohol tabs as a third backup. I've done this for a while. I got a really small container that fits perfectly in my kit and takes up no space at all. Plus if it's just a case of getting the twigs to light then can always break one of the fuel tabs in half, light it up then add fuel and dry the next batch of fuel above it before you add it to the flame then repeat. Saves using up the alcohol unless you need to. Can also be used to get a camp fire going in wet conditions if you're stuck. Hope you find this helpful. Keep up the good work 👍
Esbit tabs???!!! What a "stupidly brilliant" idea: "stupid", because *I* should have thought of it and "brilliant", because it is a very good idea. I can see if you get caught in a serious rain storm how alcohol or an Esbit tablet would be a terrific Plan-B. Thanks for the comment (I'm going to pack along Esbit tablets with me from now on).
@@ophirdude4342 no worries 🙂 glad it helped. Another crazy one is to use tin foil to close off the front opening of the twig stove then fill with wood pellets (wood chip kitty litter is easily available). Drop in a fire lighter and good to go 😁 these things are awesome.
You have made & continue to make a difference in your videos to the right & wrong way to exist & survive in the wilds -- as well as your always sunny attitude out in even the darkest, coldest of climes. BRAVO-! D.A.
Something you can do to double up on utility, is take some of the higher powered drinking alcohols, (everclear, moonshine, the like) and mix it 80/20 with glycerine, and now you have hand sanitizer that can be used as stove fuel in a pinch. It won’t be as flammable as the actual fuel alcohol, but it has use as a camp hygiene product. Just be mindful that ethanol burns clear!
Trangia + Firebox 5" Folding Stove is my combo. A little on the heavy side but it works for me. I use the same denatured alcohol as you. Great video as usual!
Hi, I've got the full sized Firebox too. But if you want to save some weight, the Firebox Nano is a brilliant option. I've bought one and my Trangia burner fits it perfectly. You can also use the Trangia gas burner for another option with the Firebox stoves.
I have an alcohol stove that is very simular to yours that I made out of a monster energy drink can. it gives a very good hot burn for quite some time. I use it in my folding wood stove when conditions are not favorable. thanks for the video and as always great job
Wow, that's the old military Trangia. Don't see many of those anymore. The consumer issue is a bit more compact and nests perfectly inside my GSI Infinity mug. I just put it inside of a sandwich bag to eliminate the possibility of my coffee tasting like alcohol. And of course there's the added benefit of being able to store fuel inside of the burner. I also like the fact that alcohol doesn't turn my pots black like twigs do.
I was late seeing this one - that’s a Military Trangia so the will get through a lot of spirit. With a hikers size and the simmer ring I have cooked meals and coffee on my Bushcraft Essentials Bushbox with one fill 👌🏼
I have several. They are slower and produce less heat than the newer Trangia's, but they are bullet proof. I find for making coffee/tea the newer Trangia or Evernew is much faster to boil water, but for actual cooking I think the old military svea is probably better.
Another good show Walker! Myself I regularly take a homemade Fancy Feast, of which I have made a dozen or so. Use Heat right from the container, if you experiment you can get just the right amount of alcohol for a cup of Joe, or whatever you want without waste. Combined it's not much extra weight for the convenience/insurance.
I don't long hike but I camp with a trailer and I use solo stoves and love them. Wet wood is not an issue for me. If I hiked I would check the weather and if it had a chance for rain I would get my dry wood and carry it. 1 to 2 pound of wood is plenty (and it is free) and you would only have to carry it when you knew it was going to rain last time it rained on me it didn't get all wet in a split second. Just a thought.
That's exactly what I'm doing tomorrow. The Island of Tiree is so windswept that it has virtually no trees so I don't expect to find twigs. However, my twig stove will be a marvelous pot stand and windbreak for my spirit stove.
Hi! I use an alcohol stove daily. All i use to boil water for coffee is a small aluminum cup from those candles, filled with methyl alcohol. It weighs absolutely nothing and boils half a liter of water with ease. To ignite it, i dip a twig in the alcohol and light that. So that i don't have to light the fire with my lighter upside down. And when i plan to cook, i take my propane stove along.
A tip for fuel in Asia, for those who may travel there. Lots of pharmacies have very cheap medical alcohol, sold in 1/2 Liter bottles. 75% alcohol is perfect for these stoves. Pharmacies in China will be found in any settlement that is big enough to have a shopping street.
Hello from Germany! Nice video! The trangia stove is bulletproof and i even use it to start my hobobox (stove) its always good to have a second option for heating water and food, specially when its cold or it is raining cats and dogs... I really hate it to use my hobo with sticks when everything is wet. With the trangia there is no problem with wind or rain. And the best thing is that the hobo system works good with the trangia... only logical to put both together! Cheers man!
although it's alot heavier I used my homemade nut/soup can alcohol stove inside my 12 Survivors twig stove, I burned nail polish remover in it as a test and it did work. not the best fuel but it had enough acetone to burn hot enough to heat up what I was cooking
Nice I just bought a lixada twig stove it came with a bowl that fits just below the top for alcohol so it takes twigs , esbit tabs , and wood nice little stove take care brother
Always enjoy you videos, thanks for sharing your adventures and reviews. I find carrying an alcohol stove with your wood stove also comes in handy when they suddenly impose a fire ban in an area your in.
I use denatured alcohol now, too. Used to use heat in the yellow bottle...and still do occasionally. But the yellow bottles are perfect for toting in your pack. 12 oz. of leakproof container w/a narrow neck that fits easily in your pack. Refill them w/a funnel and your good to go!
Hundreds of alcohol/wood combo stove reviews on TH-cam, but the nugget I learned here is the concept of ‘net positive’ or ‘net negative’ and the problem of getting wood for first survival/emergency fire in the rain when you could use a temporary stove fuel like alcohol for first few boils until you get better weather for collecting enough natural material to store for the next fires during bad weather 👍🏻 For longer term man made fuel use though the canisters are far more efficient and lighter when combined with the weight of the stove
I have one of the ohuhu gasifiers and as well as being a twig stove I can use solid tabs or liquid fuels with it but I carry a Trangia copy and several gas stoves as well so all options open even if actual fire isn't lol.
Too true, you have backup i.e. use twigs if you run out of meths or use the meths as backup if it's raining...add a couple of esbit/hexy tabs and you have 3 methods. Trangias are almost indestructible, no moving parts.
Great idea! If you use 91% or higher isopropyl alcohol, that can be a multi-use item as well--used to clean wounds, sterilize a needle, clean off poison ivy oils, etc.
YOU FORGOT THE HASH BROWNS! LOL Would be nice if someone made a 'balanced' skillet that has a counterweight opposite the handle for more stability. Every skillet I see the handle is pretty heavy and causes the skillet to tip unless you have a wide pot holder. If there were a balanced one, almost any size pot stand would work. I would like to see a video on how you made the double wall can stove. List of materials used and where to buy them. Another suggestion might be to bring a couple of Matchlight briquets and burn those in the twig stove. Lightweight, easy to light, burns hot and for a long while. Just takes 20 min or so to get heated up though. BUT during those 20 min, you can cook over the flame they give off. Far less weight than an alcohol stove and fuel.
I carry both a wood stove and an alcohol stove. Most people think that's a bit much and maybe I should pick one or the other I just like to have options.
I I am taking a folding firebox nano with the Trangia isobutane burner and a trangia alcohol stove too . That will give me three methods of burn isobutane, alcohol, wood.
MegaWoodswalker I love your videos I have a lot of money watching your videos, going to be going on a 6 day 5 night canoe trip in Algonquin park in Ontario Canada next week . I think this combination will be good I will have three ways to burn
Are they worth it? ABSOLUTELY! 👍. I use Wood, Charcoal, Alcohol, and Gel Fuel in my Bush box Essentials LF Wood and IKEA Hobo Stoves. With narrow base 'Pots' such as GSI Cups and my converted Stainless Steel Tea Caddy Cook Pot, they make for excellent pot stability and wind shields for these containers as they slot inside the Stoves. Wood plus backup alternative fuel sources .. 'Two is One, One is None'. What a question?
Definitely worth it. I pair my Trangia with the Lixada folding twig stove, the version with the cut-out that lets you slot the Trangia right in there. It's a great combo that is versatile, takes up minimal space, weighs a combined 10.5 ounces, and will run you between 25-30 bucks.
#sacredbacon. We all need to start that hash tag. I picked up a Lixada folding wood stove and burner front walmart.com a few months ago for $17. Both work great. I still luv that you use your Vic SAK and your old army mess kit. I picked up two almost new for $5 at my local thrift store this summer. They work great. Again, always a great job. Always enjoyable. Hopefully you will get out in some nice sunny and dry woods soon.
I ordered one of the smallest hand sized folding stoves and plan on reviewing it. On the slow boat from China and will have to field test it first before the review. Thanks for watching!
good video but interested to know if a rectangilar mess tin with handle (which can be bought from most camping stores) can be utilised as a makeshift wood burner stove and also in combination with the alcohol burner. Benefit being that it would have multiple uses.
Loved the video. Thank you. Do you prefer a simple folding twig stove which can be lighter or a gasifier which can be a bit bulkier but gives a super burn? Regards Imran ( from across the Pond in the UK)
I see that you didn't get a reply. Here from Switzerland, perhaps something that can assist. Twig Stoves, depending on the type of wood used, give a better bed of coals which serves better when one wishes to cook (not just heat up) over a lower heat. Gasifiers are however more fuel efficient albeit not as effective for leisurely cooking or making toast .. very important. Each type has it's its advantages. I personally prefer the folding twig stove for storability and my style of cooking. For quick boils, I use a Alcohol 'Whitebox', 'Fiancee Feast' or similar Stoves.
Trangia have one not that small advantage - you can put it out, screw the lid and pack, while lighter and cheaper can stove cant so what you pour - you need to burn because there is really no way to empty it other way and stove need to be empty to packi it. So essentialy with trangia, if you dont plan to cook much you can simply go with stove alone with some fuel inside, without additional bottle.
6:55 With that type of Pepsi stove, (double wall, open jet) you don't need to wait for it to bloom if using a pot stand. Only if you are placing the pot directly on top of the alcohol stove will the flame snuff out. By waiting, you waste that first 30-60 seconds of fuel.
Lots of reasons not to use a twig stove: drenched woods, parched woods (fire risk), or camping above the tree-line. I camp mostly outside of the woods so for me I use alcohol most of the time and twig stove use is more occasional (though I love using it). If 99% of your outdoorsmanship is in woods then it might be better just to throw a couple of almost weightless hexamine / ESbit backup tablets into the pack and not bother with taking an entire alcohol stove, fuel container, and fuel each time.
Just the initial fill. I made it taller than your average pepsi can stove but given the amount of fuel left over my standard one would have also done the job with one fill. Thanks for watching and the sub!
Awesome video !! I use esbit as backup but I think the alcohol burns hotter and longer. I worry about the alcohol leaking in my bag. What do you carry the alcohol in ?
I am not a fan of esbit but that's just me. Denatured alcohol is better IMHO. Other types like home rubbing alcohol are not. I have a few containers ranging from a flask that came with a Swedish mess kit for the fuel to empty soda bottles. I label the soda bottle "Poison" and "stove fuel" to keep people from drinking it. Thanks for watching.
Great video as all ways. I use same set up .I use heat never tried denature alcohol. Do they burn about the same ? Again thank you for the great videos
Ok, that's it! Now I'm pissed! YOUR NO LONGER ALLOWED BACON IF YOU DONT DRAIN THE GREASE BEFORE YOU PUT IN THE EGGS! if I have to tell you again your gunna be in BIG trouble mister. Great video.
Actually this time I drained 90% of the grease before adding the eggs. I didn't for the sub zero camping as that burns 6000 calories a day. Today's hike was only 11,728 steps which didn't justify all that grease. Thanks for watching brother!
It's not fat that makes you fat, it's mixing carbs and fat in your diet that makes you fat. Whenever you eat carbs your body will use them as fuel and nothing else, it can take between 9 and 16 hours of eating no carbs before your body will even consider burning your stored body fat. So there isn't anything wrong with some bacon grease, just don't have it on a bagel.
SS mess kit from the 1960's. I got it a long time ago however this is it. www.ebay.com/itm/MESS-KIT-US-GI-MILITARY-ISSUE-CAMPING-GEAR-GULF-WAR-ERA-WYOTT-MAKER-NEW-OLD-STOC/191984531303?epid=923797174&hash=item2cb32b7767:g:Iv8AAOSwNWxaPT9L:sc:USPSPriority!06468!US!-1
Hi Kevin, good video. I have a Trangia stove, thought of bringing it along with my canteen stove. Also been looking lately at twig stoves, would like to get one. Are you using the Firebox or Bushcraft Essentials stove? been kinda narrowing down to those 2 brands. Take care, Jeff
I really like all of your videos. How is your SAK Farmer holding up over time? I will eventually get one of them. It seems very durable and versatile. Can it do most of what you need a knife to do? How does the flat grind do for feather sticks?
The farmer is fantastic. Overall it's really useful and have several. Thicker blade than my Camper or Hiker. To be honest I never made feathers with a SAK. Given the hydrocarbon rich birch bark there is rarely a need though do occasionally practice the skill with fix bladed knives. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for your reply. A while back I asked you if you could do a review on the SAK Champ. You said you'd dig through your stuff to see if you had one. Did you every find out if you had one?
Great video, Kev. Just wanted to confirm, was that the Trangia burner you demonstrated was the military version? And If you have ever used the civilian version, how does the military design compare to the civilian? Thanks again!
I have both well actually 2 military 1 civilian. Yes that one is military. It's heavier built and larger yet doesn't seem to hold more fuel unless I am wrong. Just my observation.. The civilian has a simmer ring. It's solid for sure but lighter than the military. I think the military has a cloth wick liner inside. One thing. About 15 years ago I tossed a spark via ferro rod into that burner. It exploded tossing alcohol into my face driving some of the cloth liner through the bottom of the inner wall gap. Must have been a one in a million as never heard about the issue. The stove was ok and force of explosion extinguished the fuel. I prefer the civilian model but used the Military as just grabbed it out of the box of alky stoves. Thanks for watching!
Eh, the burner itself might not add more weight, but then you have the flask of fuel, and the fuel itself which you're carrying around... You might just as well pack some fancier fuel brikets for the stove or something. "But why are you carrying fuel for the stove with you? Isnt' the whole point to get fuel from nature?" My point exactly...
I'm trying to purchase just the alcohol Stove, just that, that is all. I Can't find it though Without having to purchase 2 tons of other shit with it that I don't need. Do you have a link for me PLEEEEEEASE ?????
From Zenstoves years ago. Here is the link. I am mobile and not good at posting links via phone so hope it works thanks for watching. zenstoves.net/LinksGeneral-DIY.htm#LowPressureSideBurnerAlcoholStoves
Rest in peace megawoodswalker. You brought enjoyment to many.
i do this myself. I carry the smaller Solo Stove with their Alcohol Burner. The system works very well everywhere. I love the Solo Stove for the simplicity and the ability to use fire in fire ban locations and on nights where I've waited too long to cook and it is getting too dark to collect and process wood, I can and do use the alcohol stove to get my dinner cooked. Also, I too use the US Army Mess Kit as a frying pan. Works well for me. Thanks for putting up this video.
Thanks for watching!
as a former user of whispies (MSR) and stuff like that (Primus, Optimus fuel burners) I carry now Twig Stoves and the Trangia burner, and I am very happy with it! My Whisperlight and old Primus still render wonderful service if I have to feed a lot of campers, or otherwise I can also use my Trangia Stove (25 or 27)... Firebox Nano stove plus pepsi-can alcohol stove is probably the smallest and lightest set one could carry around, and if you are interested in a minimalistic approach towards your trekking gear that is exactly what you should take! Ideally a titanium cooking pot would do best, but as these are not cheap I have being carrying the MSR stainless steel pot (1 L) or the Tatonka Scout set (pot & pan) (both will join my base-camp kitchen as soon as a titanium set is available) Because of the fragility of the pepsi burner I do prefer to have the well proven Trangia burner with me (and the swiss army knife of course)
That's the downside to the Pepsi can stove. Thanks for watching!
Here's a one-ounce Trangia knock-off.:
www.aliexpress.com/item/33040732479.html
And a one-and-a-half-ounces Evernew knock-off:
www.aliexpress.com/item/4000054582237.html
I have always made it a point to buy an alcohol burner alongside any twig or tablets stove (ie: my Solo Stove Titan and my ESBIT TREKKER Stove). I also buy an alcohol burner with its own windscreen for a second option when carring a canister stove. Ready made (store bought) alcohol stoves are super inexpensive and take up next to no room in your pack or bag. Buying an extra one to have at-the-ready alongside any new stove kit just always made common sense to me. Taking along an alchohol burner is also an easy way to heat off any moisture from extremely wet wood. Doing that gives you an option to effectively use your twig stove later. As for alchohol stoves, I'm a huge fan of the Trangia brand and the Evernew brand. They have both served me well for many years. That's important to me because I spend as much of my calendar year out doors as possible. I tent camp, motorcycle camp, day hike, boat camp, Kayak camp, and RV. Again, it's just a great way to always have an excellent PLANE B, especially if your PLAN A is a twig stove.
I agree completely. I love my stick stove, but for a few ounces more, I don't have to worry about wood on a rainy day.
One thing about the Trangia, that many don't know, is there is a carbon wick inside the double walls to help with vaporization, so it's not just empty space. Also the ridge on it is there so you can put it between your supports, or many stick stoves even have slots.
You shoulda bought the extra sticks for your firebox btw! 🙂
I'll be getting the firebox nano this coming spring for solo stuff. I just adore my big gen2, but it's a heavy sucker for one person.
I use a Trangia and a pop can stove a couple times week outside on the patio. Tea, breakfast, dinner, pretty much anything I can make that cooks in under the 25 minute average burn time of the typical burners out there, or those you can make. My pop can stove is about 2" deep, so it lasts longer than the Trangia at about 28-30 minutes, whereas the Trangia lasts about 23-25. But the Trangia primes up almost immediately where the popper takes about 4 minutes to come to full blossom. Both are excellent for backups or as a go-to kit for backpackers. I don't do that, but I do camp out of a canoe and always bring one of several twig type stoves with an alcohol burner. Great tent heaters in the morning for that first cup before rolling out. No prep, just reach over and light it, set the pot on and get up to a warm tent.
Thanks for watching!
Trangia has a linen wick around the inner wall, in the closed part.
Put a wick in the "pot can" stove, instead cloth (natural or synthetic) can be just a sheet of pot can aluminum with the same high or inner wall, just a bit more width for make vertical grooves in this piece, for promove capillarity, see LitBitWorks videos for examples.
Trangia with twig stove is my fundamental two methods of cooking outdoors one backs up the other every time. The beauty of a lidded Trangia is if you don't use up all the fuel just put the lid on until the next meal, I would not be without mine :-)
Both the civilian and military models have that feature though the civilian adds a simmer ring. Good burners. Thanks for watching.
@REBEL.Ins' The smallest and lightest I know of is pocket size, a folding stove by Lixada, there are a few models on ebay.
I have a combo of Trangia and Tomshoo wood gas stove 😊😁works awsome every time
Great video 🙂 I'm a big fan of the alcohol burner and twig stove combo. Tried and tested, I've cooked loads of meals and never let me down yet.
I also carry a couple of esbit style alcohol tabs as a third backup. I've done this for a while. I got a really small container that fits perfectly in my kit and takes up no space at all. Plus if it's just a case of getting the twigs to light then can always break one of the fuel tabs in half, light it up then add fuel and dry the next batch of fuel above it before you add it to the flame then repeat. Saves using up the alcohol unless you need to. Can also be used to get a camp fire going in wet conditions if you're stuck.
Hope you find this helpful. Keep up the good work 👍
That’s one big pro. Nothing to go wrong. Thanks for watching!
Esbit tabs???!!! What a "stupidly brilliant" idea: "stupid", because *I* should have thought of it and "brilliant", because it is a very good idea. I can see if you get caught in a serious rain storm how alcohol or an Esbit tablet would be a terrific Plan-B. Thanks for the comment (I'm going to pack along Esbit tablets with me from now on).
@@ophirdude4342 no worries 🙂 glad it helped. Another crazy one is to use tin foil to close off the front opening of the twig stove then fill with wood pellets (wood chip kitty litter is easily available). Drop in a fire lighter and good to go 😁 these things are awesome.
You have made & continue to make a difference in your videos to the right & wrong way to exist & survive in the wilds -- as well as your always sunny attitude out in even the darkest, coldest of climes.
BRAVO-!
D.A.
Thanks! I appreciate the comment and watching!
Something you can do to double up on utility, is take some of the higher powered drinking alcohols, (everclear, moonshine, the like) and mix it 80/20 with glycerine, and now you have hand sanitizer that can be used as stove fuel in a pinch. It won’t be as flammable as the actual fuel alcohol, but it has use as a camp hygiene product.
Just be mindful that ethanol burns clear!
Trangia + Firebox 5" Folding Stove is my combo. A little on the heavy side but it works for me. I use the same denatured alcohol as you. Great video as usual!
I have the same! th-cam.com/video/EKD8PTcxBMs/w-d-xo.html Good combo.
Hi, I've got the full sized Firebox too. But if you want to save some weight, the Firebox Nano is a brilliant option. I've bought one and my Trangia burner fits it perfectly. You can also use the Trangia gas burner for another option with the Firebox stoves.
I have an alcohol stove that is very simular to yours that I made out of a monster energy drink can. it gives a very good hot burn for quite some time. I use it in my folding wood stove when conditions are not favorable. thanks for the video and as always great job
DIY alky stoves with great! Thanks for watching!
Wow, that's the old military Trangia. Don't see many of those anymore. The consumer issue is a bit more compact and nests perfectly inside my GSI Infinity mug. I just put it inside of a sandwich bag to eliminate the possibility of my coffee tasting like alcohol. And of course there's the added benefit of being able to store fuel inside of the burner. I also like the fact that alcohol doesn't turn my pots black like twigs do.
I have the civilian one as well. Nice stoves and thanks for watching!
I was late seeing this one - that’s a Military Trangia so the will get through a lot of spirit. With a hikers size and the simmer ring I have cooked meals and coffee on my Bushcraft Essentials Bushbox with one fill 👌🏼
I totally agree. My cook kit and twig stove always includes either a Trangia or Fancy Feast stove. Can't go wrong!
Thanks for watching!
I’m glad I came across your channel. Connecticut guy here.
I love my old svea military alcohol stove ,built to last💪
Thanks for watching!
I have several. They are slower and produce less heat than the newer Trangia's, but they are bullet proof. I find for making coffee/tea the newer Trangia or Evernew is much faster to boil water, but for actual cooking I think the old military svea is probably better.
Me too ! I found 4 complete Swedish mess kits with them for $3 each at the thrift store here in flagstaff and they are the stainless steel mess kits
Another good show Walker! Myself I regularly take a homemade Fancy Feast, of which I have made a dozen or so. Use Heat right from the container, if you experiment you can get just the right amount of alcohol for a cup of Joe, or whatever you want without waste. Combined it's not much extra weight for the convenience/insurance.
The cat can stove is another option. Made one of those as well. Thanks for watching!
I just found your channel by chance. I really like your videos and look forward to more videos in the near future! Good luck!
Thanks for watching! I appreciate it!
I don't long hike but I camp with a trailer and I use solo stoves and love them. Wet wood is not an issue for me. If I hiked I would check the weather and if it had a chance for rain I would get my dry wood and carry it. 1 to 2 pound of wood is plenty (and it is free) and you would only have to carry it when you knew it was going to rain last time it rained on me it didn't get all wet in a split second. Just a thought.
Been doing this for too many years to remember and It has saved my butt quite a few times! Thanks for the video.
That's exactly what I'm doing tomorrow.
The Island of Tiree is so windswept that it has virtually no trees so I don't expect to find twigs. However, my twig stove will be a marvelous pot stand and windbreak for my spirit stove.
Great idea. Something I should add to my day pack. Thanks
Thanks for watching!
Hi!
I use an alcohol stove daily.
All i use to boil water for coffee is a small aluminum cup from those candles, filled with methyl alcohol. It weighs absolutely nothing and boils half a liter of water with ease.
To ignite it, i dip a twig in the alcohol and light that.
So that i don't have to light the fire with my lighter upside down.
And when i plan to cook, i take my propane stove along.
Thanks for watching! Never did the twig thing so will give that a try!
A tip for fuel in Asia, for those who may travel there. Lots of pharmacies have very cheap medical alcohol, sold in 1/2 Liter bottles. 75% alcohol is perfect for these stoves. Pharmacies in China will be found in any settlement that is big enough to have a shopping street.
Hello from Germany! Nice video! The trangia stove is bulletproof and i even use it to start my hobobox (stove) its always good to have a second option for heating water and food, specially when its cold or it is raining cats and dogs... I really hate it to use my hobo with sticks when everything is wet. With the trangia there is no problem with wind or rain. And the best thing is that the hobo system works good with the trangia... only logical to put both together! Cheers man!
Thanks for watching!
although it's alot heavier I used my homemade nut/soup can alcohol stove inside my 12 Survivors twig stove, I burned nail polish remover in it as a test and it did work. not the best fuel but it had enough acetone to burn hot enough to heat up what I was cooking
DIY alky stoves are fun to make. Thanks for watching!
Nice I just bought a lixada twig stove it came with a bowl that fits just below the top for alcohol so it takes twigs , esbit tabs , and wood nice little stove take care brother
I ordered the little hand sized one but it's on the slow boat from China. Going to field test it for a review. So inexpensive. Thanks for watching!
nice,i made one a few years ago with cans,and it still works fine
Thanks for watching!
Always enjoy you videos, thanks for sharing your adventures and reviews. I find carrying an alcohol stove with your wood stove also comes in handy when they suddenly impose a fire ban in an area your in.
Yes, I believe in a two stove system. For example, I often use a Sterno burner with a Trangia burner.
Yup. Thanks for watching!
Thank you doing the videos I really enjoy them
Thanks for watching. I appreciate it!
Never had one but I will be looking for me one to add to my kit thanks for showing 😊
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for explaining this.
Miss you Walker. I know you're enjoying the sacred bacon in the beautiful woods of heaven.
I love you energy, your videos are great.
Thanks for watching!
Some DIY burner are made but never use it in camping, but you did. thanks a lot.
I use denatured alcohol now, too. Used to use heat in the yellow bottle...and still do occasionally. But the yellow bottles are perfect for toting in your pack. 12 oz. of leakproof container w/a narrow neck that fits easily in your pack. Refill them w/a funnel and your good to go!
Clear thinking.
Thanks!
Dude I love your videos you were one of my favorites
Thanks! I appreciate the comment and view!
Hundreds of alcohol/wood combo stove reviews on TH-cam, but the nugget I learned here is the concept of ‘net positive’ or ‘net negative’ and the problem of getting wood for first survival/emergency fire in the rain when you could use a temporary stove fuel like alcohol for first few boils until you get better weather for collecting enough natural material to store for the next fires during bad weather 👍🏻
For longer term man made fuel use though the canisters are far more efficient and lighter when combined with the weight of the stove
I have one of the ohuhu gasifiers and as well as being a twig stove I can use solid tabs or liquid fuels with it but I carry a Trangia copy and several gas stoves as well so all options open even if actual fire isn't lol.
I Loves my Trangia stove... so versatile and sturdy. Combine with a twig stove and you're covered for a lot of situations.
Thanks for watching.
Too true, you have backup i.e. use twigs if you run out of meths or use the meths as backup if it's raining...add a couple of esbit/hexy tabs and you have 3 methods. Trangias are almost indestructible, no moving parts.
Great idea! If you use 91% or higher isopropyl alcohol, that can be a multi-use item as well--used to clean wounds, sterilize a needle, clean off poison ivy oils, etc.
Thanks for watching!
nman2008 It was recommended I use Marine Grade Alchohol on my Trangia as it burns cleaner.
Good stuff if you can get it.
YOU FORGOT THE HASH BROWNS! LOL
Would be nice if someone made a 'balanced' skillet that has a counterweight opposite the handle for more stability. Every skillet I see the handle is pretty heavy and causes the skillet to tip unless you have a wide pot holder.
If there were a balanced one, almost any size pot stand would work.
I would like to see a video on how you made the double wall can stove.
List of materials used and where to buy them.
Another suggestion might be to bring a couple of Matchlight briquets and burn those in the twig stove.
Lightweight, easy to light, burns hot and for a long while.
Just takes 20 min or so to get heated up though.
BUT during those 20 min, you can cook over the flame they give off.
Far less weight than an alcohol stove and fuel.
I carry both a wood stove and an alcohol stove. Most people think that's a bit much and maybe I should pick one or the other I just like to have options.
I like options as well and thanks for watching!
Another great video Mr Walker. Will be adding on to my kit.. Bacon Bacon Bacon!!!
Thanks for watching!
nice...I've always wanted to make one of these and try it out
Thanks for watching! Pepsi stoves are a fun easy project!
Thanks for another informative, helpful video!
Thanks!
I I am taking a folding firebox nano with the Trangia isobutane burner and a trangia alcohol stove too . That will give me three methods of burn isobutane, alcohol, wood.
I don't own the nano but really like my larger Firebox so betting it will be great as well. Thanks for watching!
MegaWoodswalker I love your videos I have a lot of money watching your videos, going to be going on a 6 day 5 night canoe trip in Algonquin park in Ontario Canada next week . I think this combination will be good I will have three ways to burn
Are they worth it?
ABSOLUTELY! 👍. I use Wood, Charcoal, Alcohol, and Gel Fuel in my Bush box Essentials LF Wood and IKEA Hobo Stoves. With narrow base 'Pots' such as GSI Cups and my converted Stainless Steel Tea Caddy Cook Pot, they make for excellent pot stability and wind shields for these containers as they slot inside the Stoves.
Wood plus backup alternative fuel sources .. 'Two is One, One is None'.
What a question?
Absolutely brother walker for days you just don’t won’t to build a fire but want the sacred bacon and coffee
Thanks brother!
Hail to the sacred bacon!!!
a great combination for the trail.
I agree and thanks for watching!
FOR THE SIZE AND WEIGHT IT'S A GREAT OPTION, I USE SURGICAL SPIRIT/RUBBING ALCOHOL WHICH AS WELL AS A FUEL MAKES A GOOD ANTISEPTIC OR A COOLING AGENT
Thanks for watching!
Good topic. I use esbit for my backup
Thanks for watching!
Another great video brother. Your local store must keep twice the normal supply of sacred bacon with you around. Lol.
LOL! Thanks for watching!
Sacred bacon 😂😂😂 love how you made your alcohol stove 👍
LOL! Thanks for watching!
thank you ...اعشق الطبيعه عندما تتواصل معها بتماس مع كل ما تملك من حواس ...
شكرا للمشاهدة!
Several great tips. Thanks much. Subbed.
Thanks and I appreciate the sub.
Definitely worth it. I pair my Trangia with the Lixada folding twig stove, the version with the cut-out that lets you slot the Trangia right in there. It's a great combo that is versatile, takes up minimal space, weighs a combined 10.5 ounces, and will run you between 25-30 bucks.
Thanks for watching!
The ideal height is 1.44 inches. If your not OCD then 1.5 inches. See Colorado Campers video on finding the perfect height.
Thank for the info and watching!
Sacred bacon. YES! Also, informative video.
I'm a big fan of alcohol stoves. Subbed !
#sacredbacon. We all need to start that hash tag. I picked up a Lixada folding wood stove and burner front walmart.com a few months ago for $17. Both work great. I still luv that you use your Vic SAK and your old army mess kit. I picked up two almost new for $5 at my local thrift store this summer. They work great. Again, always a great job. Always enjoyable. Hopefully you will get out in some nice sunny and dry woods soon.
I ordered one of the smallest hand sized folding stoves and plan on reviewing it. On the slow boat from China and will have to field test it first before the review. Thanks for watching!
good video but interested to know if a rectangilar mess tin with handle (which can be bought from most camping stores) can be utilised as a makeshift wood burner stove and also in combination with the alcohol burner. Benefit being that it would have multiple uses.
Love it and thank you because I was wondering about trying an alcohol stove inside my twig burner 👍👍❤️🏕️
Great Video
Thanks for watching!
Loved the video. Thank you. Do you prefer a simple folding twig stove which can be lighter or a gasifier which can be a bit bulkier but gives a super burn?
Regards
Imran ( from across the Pond in the UK)
I see that you didn't get a reply.
Here from Switzerland, perhaps something that can assist.
Twig Stoves, depending on the type of wood used, give a better bed of coals which serves better when one wishes to cook (not just heat up) over a lower heat. Gasifiers are however more fuel efficient albeit not as effective for leisurely cooking or making toast .. very important.
Each type has it's its advantages. I personally prefer the folding twig stove for storability and my style of cooking. For quick boils, I use a Alcohol 'Whitebox', 'Fiancee Feast' or similar Stoves.
Trangia have one not that small advantage - you can put it out, screw the lid and pack, while lighter and cheaper can stove cant so what you pour - you need to burn because there is really no way to empty it other way and stove need to be empty to packi it. So essentialy with trangia, if you dont plan to cook much you can simply go with stove alone with some fuel inside, without additional bottle.
True. The lid has an O ring so will hold fuel. Thanks for watching!
I miss this guy.
I've used twigs for my coffee each morning for years
I bring one along with my Ikea Hobo Stove.
6:55 With that type of Pepsi stove, (double wall, open jet) you don't need to wait for it to bloom if using a pot stand. Only if you are placing the pot directly on top of the alcohol stove will the flame snuff out. By waiting, you waste that first 30-60 seconds of fuel.
Thumbs up very effective
Thanks for watching!
Lots of reasons not to use a twig stove: drenched woods, parched woods (fire risk), or camping above the tree-line. I camp mostly outside of the woods so for me I use alcohol most of the time and twig stove use is more occasional (though I love using it). If 99% of your outdoorsmanship is in woods then it might be better just to throw a couple of almost weightless hexamine / ESbit backup tablets into the pack and not bother with taking an entire alcohol stove, fuel container, and fuel each time.
I was just curious, how many times did you fill the alcohol stove up to cook the eggs,bacon and coffee? Nice video definitely subscribed thanks.
Just the initial fill. I made it taller than your average pepsi can stove but given the amount of fuel left over my standard one would have also done the job with one fill. Thanks for watching and the sub!
silly question: instead of an alcohol stove, how about bringing along some esbit style fuel tablets ?
Awesome video !! I use esbit as backup but I think the alcohol burns hotter and longer. I worry about the alcohol leaking in my bag. What do you carry the alcohol in ?
I am not a fan of esbit but that's just me. Denatured alcohol is better IMHO. Other types like home rubbing alcohol are not. I have a few containers ranging from a flask that came with a Swedish mess kit for the fuel to empty soda bottles. I label the soda bottle "Poison" and "stove fuel" to keep people from drinking it. Thanks for watching.
Great video as all ways. I use same set up .I use heat never tried denature alcohol. Do they burn about the same ? Again thank you for the great videos
Seems to burn the same as the heet in yellow bottle with blue. Yellow with red burns too dirty. Thanks for watching!
there is no big difference imho
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steve
Ok, that's it! Now I'm pissed! YOUR NO LONGER ALLOWED BACON IF YOU DONT DRAIN THE GREASE BEFORE YOU PUT IN THE EGGS! if I have to tell you again your gunna be in BIG trouble mister. Great video.
Actually this time I drained 90% of the grease before adding the eggs. I didn't for the sub zero camping as that burns 6000 calories a day. Today's hike was only 11,728 steps which didn't justify all that grease. Thanks for watching brother!
MegaWoodswalker ok then, carry on
It's not fat that makes you fat, it's mixing carbs and fat in your diet that makes you fat.
Whenever you eat carbs your body will use them as fuel and nothing else, it can take between 9 and 16 hours of eating no carbs before your body will even consider burning your stored body fat.
So there isn't anything wrong with some bacon grease, just don't have it on a bagel.
I am more concerned about his arteries than fat.
Hindsight Keto is King.
Très bien, en aluminium léger et efficace
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Great channel walker! I’m interested in the pan that you use in your videos. Where can I get one?
SS mess kit from the 1960's. I got it a long time ago however this is it. www.ebay.com/itm/MESS-KIT-US-GI-MILITARY-ISSUE-CAMPING-GEAR-GULF-WAR-ERA-WYOTT-MAKER-NEW-OLD-STOC/191984531303?epid=923797174&hash=item2cb32b7767:g:Iv8AAOSwNWxaPT9L:sc:USPSPriority!06468!US!-1
Esbit tablets are also a good backup if you want to cut some weight. They're a little stinky though
6:57 the calm before the cook.
Yup. LOL! Thanks for watching!
Great video! Curious if the denatured alcohol burns "cleaner" with less soot than say 70% or 90% isopropyl alcohol would?🤔
I thing so as i use 70% rubing alcohol and it leaves loads if soot. Hope that helps
Could you use the solid white fire starters, cut into pieces??
i use the trangia stove more than wood, try wood pellets see if you like them................
I have used wood pellets in my wood gas stoves and they burn fantastic. Thanks for watching!
ben terwellen. Yup.. wood pellets come in real handy when the twigs are too damp.
Some Barkeeper's Friend Cooktop Cleaner will make that Trangia look like gold in no time...
Thanks for watching!
Hi Kevin, good video. I have a Trangia stove, thought of bringing it along with my canteen stove. Also been looking lately at twig stoves, would like to get one. Are you using the Firebox or Bushcraft Essentials stove? been kinda narrowing down to those 2 brands. Take care, Jeff
That's a Firebox. I am very happy with it but don't own the other one so not sure which is best. Thanks for watching brother!
Awesome buddy
I really like all of your videos. How is your SAK Farmer holding up over time? I will eventually get one of them. It seems very durable and versatile. Can it do most of what you need a knife to do? How does the flat grind do for feather sticks?
The farmer is fantastic. Overall it's really useful and have several. Thicker blade than my Camper or Hiker. To be honest I never made feathers with a SAK. Given the hydrocarbon rich birch bark there is rarely a need though do occasionally practice the skill with fix bladed knives. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for your reply. A while back I asked you if you could do a review on the SAK Champ. You said you'd dig through your stuff to see if you had one. Did you every find out if you had one?
Sorry to say I don't have one.
Super 👍👍
Thanks for watching!
Great video, Kev. Just wanted to confirm, was that the Trangia burner you demonstrated was the military version? And If you have ever used the civilian version, how does the military design compare to the civilian? Thanks again!
I have both well actually 2 military 1 civilian. Yes that one is military. It's heavier built and larger yet doesn't seem to hold more fuel unless I am wrong. Just my observation.. The civilian has a simmer ring. It's solid for sure but lighter than the military. I think the military has a cloth wick liner inside. One thing. About 15 years ago I tossed a spark via ferro rod into that burner. It exploded tossing alcohol into my face driving some of the cloth liner through the bottom of the inner wall gap. Must have been a one in a million as never heard about the issue. The stove was ok and force of explosion extinguished the fuel. I prefer the civilian model but used the Military as just grabbed it out of the box of alky stoves. Thanks for watching!
MegaWoodswalker That sounds like a great scare, burning alcohol and all. Thank you for your feedback
@@MegaWoodswalker wow didn't know alcohol would explode like that thanks for the warning
Do you think using moonshine as a fuel would burn good enough to cook? And don't have to carry back the leftover moonshine
Grain burns nice so it's really a matter of the proof. Grain is higher though odds are the shine would burn. Thanks for watching!
Eh, the burner itself might not add more weight, but then you have the flask of fuel, and the fuel itself which you're carrying around...
You might just as well pack some fancier fuel brikets for the stove or something. "But why are you carrying fuel for the stove with you? Isnt' the whole point to get fuel from nature?"
My point exactly...
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Great info! What State are you filming in?
This time Connecticut but not always. Thanks for watching!
You didn't show what you carry your alcohol in. Just your stove? That isn't much.
I'm trying to purchase just the alcohol Stove, just that, that is all. I Can't find it though Without having to purchase 2 tons of other shit with it that I don't need. Do you have a link for me PLEEEEEEASE ?????
Thanks for the tip. Brian 77
Thanks for watching.
wher did you get instructions for your pepsi can stove?
From Zenstoves years ago. Here is the link. I am mobile and not good at posting links via phone so hope it works thanks for watching. zenstoves.net/LinksGeneral-DIY.htm#LowPressureSideBurnerAlcoholStoves