I’m only 26 years old, but I think I’m finally at Shannon’s point where I don’t expect them to win a cup in my lifetime. If they’re lucky and everything goes their way, the Canucks can get a wild card maybe (which even that is rough given how the top 4 Pacific teams had over 100 points, and Calgary had over 90). And that’s about it, I don’t see a deep run in the cards.
I agree at best this is a fringe playoff team if everything goes right and as you said it's going to be tough. Edmonton as long as McDavid and Draisaitl are around will be a playoff team. Vegas should still be a good team next season. Los Angeles will be a good team as well. Seattle will be in the hunt as well. I would suspect knowing Calgary's pattern of making and missing the playoffs that they should be in the hunt next season. Then you go over to the Central Division. Colorado, Dallas, and Minnesota should all be playoff teams next season. Winnipeg if they keep a good chunk of the team together should be in the hunt. Lastly, I think St Louis and Nashville will be jumping back into the hunt next season as well.
I feel sorry for Vancouver fans... I love Vancouver and would love to see them succeed, but when I see the roster... they are nowhere close to the teams that made Playoffs apart from Winnipeg, maybe... The roster is mediocre at best and they are already over the cap, which is unbelievable...
As a longtime Canucks fan since the 1980s, a What's Wrong With The Canucks video could be a steelbook box set directed by Ken Burns with Morgan Freeman narrating.
Im a Rangers fan but I have admiration for the Canucks and this passionate fanbase! Shannon led the way, engaging with you as we debated over a potential trade last year for JT Miller (I miss that psycho ❤) - NOT GETTING SCHNEIDER! Canucks gotta get the roster organized with Good Contracts not just Good Players. You certainly have some of the best players in the league though. With additional picks and players coming in, I am hopeful that the franchise has promising days ahead! Hang in there! Find solace in the Flames underachieving and the Leafs doing Leafs things? 🇨🇦🇺🇸
Canucks management and ownership is Bill Murray in "Groundhog Day" but if he only tried the same failed string of behavior for decades in that loop and sadly I'm stuck in there too as a fan.
@@shanegleeson5823 I standby what I said. It was true for the time and what we did in these playoffs was winning a lot of games we had zero right winning. Great start, but poor play and concerning since the All-Star Break.
After 15 years of being a Canucks fan I finally understood, this year, after the Bruce situation, why Shannon has multiple favorite teams. No sane person can stay *just* a Canucks fan for life, it will ruin Hockey for you. Jumped onboard the Kraken fandom near the all-star game, and have been genuinely enjoying hockey again, while I will always love the Canucks, they're just too much. The fans are toxic, which is why other fans laugh at them, they're always angry and calling for players to be launched into the sun, along with coaches, management, etc, the second something goes wrong. It'll kill your enjoyment of the great game of Hockey.
I'm the same way. I'm a Habs fan through and through but also have rooted for Colorado when I first got into the game too as well as Winnipeg. While Montreal was really, REALLY bad it was comforting to watch Colorado win it all last year.
Maybe this is really common but I have a very monogamous relationship with my favourite team (LIF). They haven't been particularly good in my lifetime, yoyo-ing between the SHL and Allsvenskan mostly. Last time they won the Swedish 1st league was in 75. They haven't made it to the final since 89. But here I am watching Canucks videos because I want to see if they mention Åman. A lot of our young talents are picked up by the NHL and once the bitterness wears off I love watching them continue to improve overseas. Hoping for Heineman or Rosén to earn some NHL time in a season or two as well, would be amazing to see some matchups ✨💙🤍
Too many people hope that OEL and Myers are going to bounce back...every year. Hope is not a way to gauge if a player/team is good, this team is bad until they're off the books
My whole life I've blindly cheered for the flames without really paying attention to other teams outside of the west. I am so glad you exist on TH-cam! After following your channel I've been able to appreciate more teams and the game in general with the little time I have in my daily life. Keep these videos up Shannon!
Myers bonus is paid sept 15, makes him little harder to move. He also has a 10 team no trade list, so basically non tradeable. Just put the teams with cap on his list and there is no trade
One positive for the Canucks this offseason is that this is the first year in god knows how long that the entire core is healthy and 100% ending the season. Petey Hughes Miller Demko Kuzmenko being 100% at the start of the season will be something the Canucks haven't experienced in years.
Other local media outlets have been saying that Myers bonus isn't paid out until August which is baffling. So Myers may not get traded until the start of the season
Really why? Look where that pick is now it ain’t going to be even isn’t the top 15 at this point got a right handed shot d man to help the team for years to come. He fits the timeline of Pettersson and Hughes once the islanders made the playoffs felt pretty darn good about it
I laughed a bit at anything that went wrong for the Canucks in the early 2010s because I used to interact with some Canuck fans who were very cocky. But now days my primary interaction with Canucks fans is watching Shannon, so I can't imagine laughing at their misfortunes.
Taking no comfort in YVR failures, Mr Oiler here. YVR and YEG had fantastic games over the years, hoping to see another YVR riot at some point in the future. Many Edmontonians have relocated to YVR and would love another series in the future.
As a younger Canucks fan all of the notable things I remember are the sedin retirement Petey Calder bubble playoffs and a whole lot of disappointment that just makes me feel sad every year man how much I wish this team could just be good like the stories ive heard
might try an active forecheck with younger players; qualify restricted free agents that work out; free up salary cap space by moving out contracts; acquire draft picks where can; start building up long term, including getting one of the better goaltenders available in draft
A top ten most disappointing season for the Canucks might make me cry. I do not think this team will win ever for as long as I am alive, even though I should not die for another 50 years by any standard
I liked those old skate logo and color scheme. It gave them an identity the original and current uniform don't have. To me, it was a us vs. them thing.
Someone told me to dream on when I suggested that we trade Boeser and OEL to Philadelphia for Provalov and Hayes. Both players want out of Philly and Hayes has a bad contract. But a decent third center. Might have to put Rathbone out there as a sweetner. Perhaps that person was a Flyers fan. Provalov is a good solid D man. Hayes is big and fast. I know we can use more D and on the right side. I like Boeser but he lacks fight and battle. He has good size but rarely competes. He is a decent forward. Kind of like Jake. How much rope does he need. I am at the end of mine and should we keep him? And think he could be a player that could bite you on the ass. He goes some where it could be like Bo on the Island and have diminishing points. Watch these playoffs and you have to play hard every night if you want to win. There is no room for passengers.
If you want to know where ownership's care really lies, consider this: They're carving out an area between the locker rooms to build a restaurant for the owner. They move the medical room a few meters away from the bench, which, in the NHL, means WAY more than people realize. What if a player is bleeding profusely and needs medical attention ASAP? Dragging them an extra 50m could mean a LOT.
The fact that ownership wont pony up the cash for a permanent training facility says it all really. What a joke, this team will never do well woth this ownership
It's like watching a trainwreck because the bridge is out and management's solution every season is to send another train down the tracks. Not much chance Myers gets moved before the next trade deadline, because his bonus is paid in September. By that time NHL teams has basically set their rosters, other than a few depth signings, contract holdouts, and players scooped off waivers.
First time in a long time Canucks are getting real passes and shots, compared to their dump the Puck and wack away at it to score with some rng bounces
Elite top talent that makes the team way too good to bottom out, and get a generational talent. Terrible depth and inconsistent results make the team not good enough to be a contender, and merely aspire for a playoff spot so that Slumlord Aquilini can get his two home playoff game revenue. Same old, same old. See you all there next year!
Maybe a logo showing a skate going downslope is bad luck. How about a nice level skate position? Something on an even keel would be great for a change. Lol. 😅
The frustrating thing is they could be a good team if they remembered to play the first period and that the first 20 games of the season actually matter. I'm not sure whether it's a coaching thing or what, but as a fan, it's difficult to watch the first period when your team can't even keep posession of the puck yet alone register a genuine scoring chance in the first 20 minutes on most nights. A couple games I can understand but game after game after game it's same story. Then they wake up when they realize they're only going to register 5 shots and be totally embarassed.
This season hurt the most because the one time we didn't want a useless winning second half still happened. In 2020 they wouldn't have made the playoffs if the season had finished, they were fading fast.
Dealing for OEL and his albatross contract after seeing the light at the end of the tunnel on Loui Eriksson's was so brutal as a fan and the worst part is you just know come 2027 we will do the same and send OEL for a bigger contract expiring a decade later.
Canucks really need a revamped bottom six in general when we were consistent contenders we had one of the best bottom 6 in the league and our defence needs way more work and a consistent backup when we have that then we will be actual contenders
How it's even possible that Vancouver is over the cap... I don't understand... Compare them with a team like Edmonton... They have superstars/stars on the roster... When I look at Vancouver's roster I see mediocre players and 3 stars... Do they laundry some money or what, there is no way that team can be even close to the cap... I see Buffalo roster and cannot believe they have like 10M cap space and then Vancouver over the cap... I don't understand...
Basically, Benning killed the Canucks fortunes by paying Myers top pairing d-man money when he is really a 4/5 d-man. Nail in coffin was not waiting one more year for bad contracts to expire and instead take on OEL's bad contract for 5+ years and barely getting 6/7 d-man replacement value.
This is the first time I'm disagreeing with Shannon. I REALLY hate the idea of tanking in order to get better players in the draft. The Canucks have Pettersson, Hughes and Demko. Ice Hockey players are in this game to COMPETE. They don't intentionally lose to get players in the future. A "Bedard" might make a difference, but you win or lose as a team and I think players get that.
If Vancouver had got rid of the coach and not babysat Horvat for 1/2 a season they would have made the play offs . They have a few really good players . Management in Vancouver has always been one step behind reality.
Always liked the stick but felt it was a little on the nose. Canucks are in a tough spot . They have $80 million dedicated to this line-up. $86 million when you throw in Tucker Poolman and Tanner Pearson. They have already made their adds in Beauvillier and Hronek. This is their line-up. They are lined up to lose Kravtsov and Ferland. This a team who improved defensively at the end and only gave up a 12th fewest 30.8 SAPG. They were 25th in goals against , so their goaltending was terrible. They seem destined to hope Demko finds his game again. He's untradeable right now, they have no cap space to add anyone and he's terrible ( GS 32 .901 sp 3.66 gaa -2.77 gsaa). Spencer Martin spontaneously combusted and poor Colin Dellia was thrown to the wolves. If they want to move forward they need other goaltending. i don't think a back up behind Demko solves your problem. Vancouver has some top notch offensive players like Quinn Hughes, Elias Petterssen, J.T. Miller, maybe Kuzmenko. i'm thinking Hronek really helps the defense. This is a bit of the Winnipeg problem where they have a few golden patches and gaping holes everywhere else. The offense without Horvat wont be enough. and
Chicago won 3 cups with their last rebuild. Now they are rebuilding again with a shot for Bedard. And here are the Canucks still doing the same bullshit and still stuck in mediocrity. This franchise is hopeless. I used to be a hardcore Canucks fan now I'm a casual Canucks fan. Forever in mediocrity.
They were also the last team successful to do a rebuild lot of them over the last decade have been the retooling ones not to say rebuilds can’t work not a lot of success stories
It's kinda obvious what management did regarding Bruce. They probably knew he wasn't the best coach for them but firing him early would start an uproar so they waited till the team became a tire fire so that they could easily fire him. Obvs the timing was horrible and it's a shitty way to do business but... That's how it goes
When u always said “I don’t think I’ll see them win a cup in my lifetime” I’d say are you kidding we will do this and I was always thinking in my mind they’ll dought u but after watching for more years now I honestly don’t think it’ll happen at-least anytime soooooon. It’s just honestly frustrating seeing this I can’t imagine how you’ve felt for over 50 years and all Canucks fans need to start cheering for other teams aswell
Vancouver is a non-playoff team with a couple (?) of "stars" and yet has a no-space in salary cup? When they try to improve for the next season, they get rid of the best players - last year Markstrom and a couple more, this year Horvat. Who is at fault?
I find it hard to laugh at those facing adversity. It certainly deflates my view of a fan base, as it must to the players & team, which we know read & hear the comments as well. Prior to the Canucks entering the NHL I was a die-hard Canadiens fan from my youth onwards during all those Stanley Cup runs. (I still root for them as my second team). The days of the original 6 & NHL team dynasties are long gone. That said, I have felt disappointment as well during the Canucks coming so close to the Stanley Cup in their past runs but it demonstrates they CAN do it! I remain optimistic at the beginning of each season as a new start for the Canucks & a run for the Cup in the very near future.
As I was a fan in the 1980's of the Canucks. I'm traumatized from the Downhill Skate era. I do not like the Star Wars Skate. Black is fine with the Orca. I don't even mind Stick in Rick or Johnny Canuck.
hobbits on ice...They refuse to bring in toughness and grit. they keep looking to find the next cost effective Kevin Fiala type player. they draft these types (lekkermakki) they trade for these types (kravstov) and a whole farm system of these types. Until they start looking outside the box like with Dakota they are always going to be a soft team over the cap.
Can someone explain to me how the Canucks are over the cap next season? No matter what contracts I count it doesn’t add up to the 85m. Even less so when the listed roster size of those 85m is 19 players. What am I missing?
1993-94 The Canucks knock off the #2,#3,#4 seeds going 12-5 before losing to the Rangers in the Final and that was not the most disappointing season? Must be brutal being a Canucks fan.
Should have kept Boudreau and maybe give Tocchet a fresh season. That way we would've tanked hard for Bedard. Although the problem that may arise would be star players like Pety and Hughes wanting out because the team sucks. We still have a chance to bring Bedard home...
@@dtrain9911 I'm pretty sure the Canucks would have had the top 3 overall pick with Bruce at the helm. The team was busy scoring 3-5+ goals every night playing a run-and-gun game, but would still lose cuz we let in 4-6+goals every night... I've watched many games where we had a 3-0 lead in the 1st period only to lose 3-5 in period 3. It was painful...
@@benchow8851 not true at all especially with when Demko came back but they brought the coach in they wanted to change the culture in the room early on give him a chance to install his structure early on. Hoping we would finish in the bottom 5 isn’t a plan changing the culture for the future long term thinking verses luck in the draft.
@@dtrain9911 Bedard is projected to be the next franchise changer. We've seen what these types of players can do for a franchise in the past(Crosby, Ovie, McDavid). We weren't making the playoffs anyway, so why not tank even harder to get the best odds for a generational player.
@@benchow8851 piss off pettersson and Hughes in the process great shortsighted thinking let’s hope we get lucky to get one really good player who hasn’t played a game in the nhl. While it would be nice to get him unless you’re willing to trade the best d man this franchise has had we were never going to get him
I don’t think we can read a thing into how the Canucks played under Tocchet. When Bruce replaced Green, the Canucks went on a run as well. So is this the game plan for management? Buy themselves time by changing coaches every year so they can go on a run and get a lower draft pick while they pretend the problem is solved? I would say ownership will eventually have questions, but given how things turned out in the last 2-3 years, I highly doubt that. They just want 2 home playoff games by any means necessary. So it’s next season, same as the last. What’s the definition of insanity? Repeating the same mistake over and over and expecting a different outcome. Welcome to Vancouver.
I’ve said this to many times to many people what you’re saying now is what Rutherford said last year he told us the play under Bruce wasn’t sustainable. Why now is different he believes in the coach he has and the system he has been putting them in place it’s up to management to give the players he needs
0% chance Canucks make the playoffs with both Myers and OEL on the team next year. If they can’t move Myers then they have to buyout OEL this summer. Won’t take the team seriously if both are playing prominent roles next year.
Canucks with the lowest odds Iof getting bedard at 3%, but the fan base that’s more deserving than any other team on the list. Hope you can shock the league and get him, but of course there’s a 97% chance you won’t.
lets be honest with ourselves here ,watching the playoffs what do you see ? speed, hitting,team depth scoring size and ,desperation Are the canucks even close to this NO
Things to take away: - no playoffs - already over the cap for next year - new coach, played great at end of year……. Again - part of the excitement for this years draft has been traded away If only there was a way to know how much you could spend on salaries in a year and not go over it, like a “cap” or something
It's both but a heavy portion of it comes from meddling from Aquilini. At some point when a team or organization is struggling then you have to start looking at the top.
I disagree- Goldobin had some flash but he didn’t seem like a hard worker on the ice, which I think Podz shows. I hope it clicks for him one day soon and he potsgoalzin all day
Gotta love a team that overplays its stars in meaningless games to prove how good they’re gonna be next season. Who are they going to be better than in the West given that St Louis and Calgary are probably closer to being playoff teams?
I love hearing Shannon talk about his favorite teams
I’m only 26 years old, but I think I’m finally at Shannon’s point where I don’t expect them to win a cup in my lifetime.
If they’re lucky and everything goes their way, the Canucks can get a wild card maybe (which even that is rough given how the top 4 Pacific teams had over 100 points, and Calgary had over 90). And that’s about it, I don’t see a deep run in the cards.
I agree at best this is a fringe playoff team if everything goes right and as you said it's going to be tough. Edmonton as long as McDavid and Draisaitl are around will be a playoff team. Vegas should still be a good team next season. Los Angeles will be a good team as well. Seattle will be in the hunt as well. I would suspect knowing Calgary's pattern of making and missing the playoffs that they should be in the hunt next season. Then you go over to the Central Division. Colorado, Dallas, and Minnesota should all be playoff teams next season. Winnipeg if they keep a good chunk of the team together should be in the hunt. Lastly, I think St Louis and Nashville will be jumping back into the hunt next season as well.
Same bro same
I think the Canucks are in Cubs/Red Sox territory. Maybe one day a genius GM will emerge who can handle the job of making the Canucks winners
Well hopefully you have a good 70 years left and they will win a cup in the next 50 years.
I feel sorry for Vancouver fans... I love Vancouver and would love to see them succeed, but when I see the roster... they are nowhere close to the teams that made Playoffs apart from Winnipeg, maybe... The roster is mediocre at best and they are already over the cap, which is unbelievable...
This easily could have been an hour-long video
As a longtime Canucks fan since the 1980s, a What's Wrong With The Canucks video could be a steelbook box set directed by Ken Burns with Morgan Freeman narrating.
@@theevilascotcompany9255Awesome take
Im a Rangers fan but I have admiration for the Canucks and this passionate fanbase! Shannon led the way, engaging with you as we debated over a potential trade last year for JT Miller (I miss that psycho ❤) - NOT GETTING SCHNEIDER!
Canucks gotta get the roster organized with Good Contracts not just Good Players. You certainly have some of the best players in the league though. With additional picks and players coming in, I am hopeful that the franchise has promising days ahead! Hang in there!
Find solace in the Flames underachieving and the Leafs doing Leafs things? 🇨🇦🇺🇸
Thanks man! The latest interview that our GM had made me more optimistic about the future, if a little cautious. I wish the best for you guys!
Canucks management and ownership is Bill Murray in "Groundhog Day" but if he only tried the same failed string of behavior for decades in that loop and sadly I'm stuck in there too as a fan.
aged like milk
@@shanegleeson5823 I standby what I said. It was true for the time and what we did in these playoffs was winning a lot of games we had zero right winning. Great start, but poor play and concerning since the All-Star Break.
After 15 years of being a Canucks fan I finally understood, this year, after the Bruce situation, why Shannon has multiple favorite teams. No sane person can stay *just* a Canucks fan for life, it will ruin Hockey for you.
Jumped onboard the Kraken fandom near the all-star game, and have been genuinely enjoying hockey again, while I will always love the Canucks, they're just too much. The fans are toxic, which is why other fans laugh at them, they're always angry and calling for players to be launched into the sun, along with coaches, management, etc, the second something goes wrong. It'll kill your enjoyment of the great game of Hockey.
spot on
The losses make the wins so much sweeter
I'm the same way. I'm a Habs fan through and through but also have rooted for Colorado when I first got into the game too as well as Winnipeg. While Montreal was really, REALLY bad it was comforting to watch Colorado win it all last year.
To be fair, I didn't hold anything personal against JT Miller, I just thought his contract was asscheeks.
Maybe this is really common but I have a very monogamous relationship with my favourite team (LIF). They haven't been particularly good in my lifetime, yoyo-ing between the SHL and Allsvenskan mostly. Last time they won the Swedish 1st league was in 75. They haven't made it to the final since 89. But here I am watching Canucks videos because I want to see if they mention Åman. A lot of our young talents are picked up by the NHL and once the bitterness wears off I love watching them continue to improve overseas. Hoping for Heineman or Rosén to earn some NHL time in a season or two as well, would be amazing to see some matchups ✨💙🤍
Too many people hope that OEL and Myers are going to bounce back...every year.
Hope is not a way to gauge if a player/team is good, this team is bad until they're off the books
Myers was ruined by Ruff in Buffalo years ago. Kid could have been great for us but unfortunately that's not the way things went.
From the moment myers signed that contract it was a horrible contract and time has proven that .
The same was true of Eriksson. Then that contract was traded for OEL right before it expired! Hope has no place amongst Canucks fans
Completely Agree
You are bang on. It is all very discouraging. When games become meaningless in November it's like having an 88 game preseason.
My whole life I've blindly cheered for the flames without really paying attention to other teams outside of the west. I am so glad you exist on TH-cam! After following your channel I've been able to appreciate more teams and the game in general with the little time I have in my daily life. Keep these videos up Shannon!
I like how after this video ended a sad Celtic fireplace stream came on basically sums up the sorrow and pain.
The video's done. Goodnight everybody! Haha, love you Shannon.
Love the Donald Duck magnets at the bottom of the board! 😆
Myers bonus is paid sept 15, makes him little harder to move. He also has a 10 team no trade list, so basically non tradeable. Just put the teams with cap on his list and there is no trade
captain tank 😞
Our best hope is a career ending injury... Lose lose either way
One positive for the Canucks this offseason is that this is the first year in god knows how long that the entire core is healthy and 100% ending the season. Petey Hughes Miller Demko Kuzmenko being 100% at the start of the season will be something the Canucks haven't experienced in years.
Petey is heading to the Worlds. We aren't out of the woods yet.
Other local media outlets have been saying that Myers bonus isn't paid out until August which is baffling. So Myers may not get traded until the start of the season
The horvat trade to get the islanders first round pick, followed by trading said first round pick for Detroit Hronek still baffles me.
Really why? Look where that pick is now it ain’t going to be even isn’t the top 15 at this point got a right handed shot d man to help the team for years to come. He fits the timeline of Pettersson and Hughes once the islanders made the playoffs felt pretty darn good about it
@@dtrain9911overpayment that’s why but they desperately needed to upgrade their backend
Oh! I've been looking forward to this one!!
I laughed a bit at anything that went wrong for the Canucks in the early 2010s because I used to interact with some Canuck fans who were very cocky. But now days my primary interaction with Canucks fans is watching Shannon, so I can't imagine laughing at their misfortunes.
Taking no comfort in YVR failures, Mr Oiler here. YVR and YEG had fantastic games over the years, hoping to see another YVR riot at some point in the future. Many Edmontonians have relocated to YVR and would love another series in the future.
Love the Canucks content.
As a younger Canucks fan all of the notable things I remember are the sedin retirement Petey Calder bubble playoffs and a whole lot of disappointment that just makes me feel sad every year man how much I wish this team could just be good like the stories ive heard
Just got my new Skate jersey recently. It’s gorgeous.
Patiently waiting for your Red Wings video.
might try an active forecheck with younger players; qualify restricted free agents that work out; free up salary cap space by moving out contracts; acquire draft picks where can; start building up long term, including getting one of the better goaltenders available in draft
A top ten most disappointing season for the Canucks might make me cry. I do not think this team will win ever for as long as I am alive, even though I should not die for another 50 years by any standard
I liked those old skate logo and color scheme. It gave them an identity the original and current uniform don't have. To me, it was a us vs. them thing.
I really hope they find a suitable place for Hoglander next season, he's got potential truly
Someone told me to dream on when I suggested that we trade Boeser and OEL to Philadelphia for Provalov and Hayes. Both players want out of Philly and Hayes has a bad contract. But a decent third center. Might have to put Rathbone out there as a sweetner. Perhaps that person was a Flyers fan. Provalov is a good solid D man. Hayes is big and fast. I know we can use more D and on the right side. I like Boeser but he lacks fight and battle. He has good size but rarely competes. He is a decent forward. Kind of like Jake. How much rope does he need. I am at the end of mine and should we keep him? And think he could be a player that could bite you on the ass. He goes some where it could be like Bo on the Island and have diminishing points. Watch these playoffs and you have to play hard every night if you want to win. There is no room for passengers.
They have to keep Miller
If you want to know where ownership's care really lies, consider this:
They're carving out an area between the locker rooms to build a restaurant for the owner. They move the medical room a few meters away from the bench, which, in the NHL, means WAY more than people realize.
What if a player is bleeding profusely and needs medical attention ASAP? Dragging them an extra 50m could mean a LOT.
franny linguini makes my blood boil 😞
You forgot the "Flying V" logo!
The fact that ownership wont pony up the cash for a permanent training facility says it all really. What a joke, this team will never do well woth this ownership
but he’ll throw cash on a new private restaurant connected to the canucks locker room to display his little toys to his rich buddies 😩
You forgot a Millionaires logo on the board😂
Second best logo but sooooo cursed.
@@richardferguson6893 how is it cursed only Vancouver team win Stanley cup.
@@kingkeno7127 Yes but since they brought it back a few years ago, they've lost every time they wore it.
@@richardferguson6893 faith we be better team very soon
It's like watching a trainwreck because the bridge is out and management's solution every season is to send another train down the tracks. Not much chance Myers gets moved before the next trade deadline, because his bonus is paid in September. By that time NHL teams has basically set their rosters, other than a few depth signings, contract holdouts, and players scooped off waivers.
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1:00 well that was a short video but i enjoyed the symbol history lesson lol
I think you could repeat 70% of this for the Flyers video & I wouldn't notice.
Leave it to Shannon to be surprised that Vancouver didn't have a clear outline of the future lol
First time in a long time Canucks are getting real passes and shots, compared to their dump the Puck and wack away at it to score with some rng bounces
Maybe not a complete rebuild. Need to move some expensive contracts and bring in some players on a low cap hit.
So basically what Rutherford and this new management have been saying the whole time. It’s not as easy as we think
Elite top talent that makes the team way too good to bottom out, and get a generational talent. Terrible depth and inconsistent results make the team not good enough to be a contender, and merely aspire for a playoff spot so that Slumlord Aquilini can get his two home playoff game revenue.
Same old, same old. See you all there next year!
Maybe a logo showing a skate going downslope is bad luck. How about a nice level skate position? Something on an even keel would be great for a change. Lol. 😅
If they go to the skate full time again i’d be severely disappointed.
its a skate!?! omg
It really feels like Bo wasn't the captain the Canucks wanted. I liked him as a player, but since his trade, the team has felt much more in line
If you look up dysfunctional in the dictionary, you’ll find the Canucks logo right next to the definition
The frustrating thing is they could be a good team if they remembered to play the first period and that the first 20 games of the season actually matter. I'm not sure whether it's a coaching thing or what, but as a fan, it's difficult to watch the first period when your team can't even keep posession of the puck yet alone register a genuine scoring chance in the first 20 minutes on most nights. A couple games I can understand but game after game after game it's same story. Then they wake up when they realize they're only going to register 5 shots and be totally embarassed.
12 pts is easy to make up when your goalie actually makes a save.
This season hurt the most because the one time we didn't want a useless winning second half still happened. In 2020 they wouldn't have made the playoffs if the season had finished, they were fading fast.
Dealing for OEL and his albatross contract after seeing the light at the end of the tunnel on Loui Eriksson's was so brutal as a fan and the worst part is you just know come 2027 we will do the same and send OEL for a bigger contract expiring a decade later.
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come on Fitzy, get Quinny to NJ too please
Mickey and Minnie gonna start tearing it up!
Canucks really need a revamped bottom six in general when we were consistent contenders we had one of the best bottom 6 in the league and our defence needs way more work and a consistent backup when we have that then we will be actual contenders
How it's even possible that Vancouver is over the cap... I don't understand... Compare them with a team like Edmonton... They have superstars/stars on the roster... When I look at Vancouver's roster I see mediocre players and 3 stars... Do they laundry some money or what, there is no way that team can be even close to the cap... I see Buffalo roster and cannot believe they have like 10M cap space and then Vancouver over the cap... I don't understand...
Bear and Hoglander I would consider in the RFA's for low $ other then that unless it's league minimum wage are replaceable
Basically, Benning killed the Canucks fortunes by paying Myers top pairing d-man money when he is really a 4/5 d-man. Nail in coffin was not waiting one more year for bad contracts to expire and instead take on OEL's bad contract for 5+ years and barely getting 6/7 d-man replacement value.
Barring another injury to Demko we are so making the playoffs !!!
This is the first time I'm disagreeing with Shannon. I REALLY hate the idea of tanking in order to get better players in the draft. The Canucks have Pettersson, Hughes and Demko. Ice Hockey players are in this game to COMPETE. They don't intentionally lose to get players in the future. A "Bedard" might make a difference, but you win or lose as a team and I think players get that.
I still don't think they are that far away. It seems that the fanbase is ultra-cynical.
You're missing 17 of their other logos over the years.
Curious to know what Bruce's record after he took over was.
If Vancouver had got rid of the coach and not babysat Horvat for 1/2 a season they would have made the play offs . They have a few really good players . Management in Vancouver has always been one step behind reality.
It’s a different management group from Benning with a winning track record
@@dtrain9911 winning track record ? Did I miss something , are the Canucks in the play offs ? No one tells me nothing
@@grazynazambeanie5963 yah look at Rutherford 3 cups won 2 with the penguins ALivin was the AGM
Always liked the stick but felt it was a little on the nose.
Canucks are in a tough spot . They have $80 million dedicated to this line-up. $86 million when you throw in Tucker Poolman and Tanner Pearson. They have already made their adds in Beauvillier and Hronek. This is their line-up.
They are lined up to lose Kravtsov and Ferland. This a team who improved defensively at the end and only gave up a 12th fewest 30.8 SAPG. They were 25th in goals against , so their goaltending was terrible. They seem destined to hope Demko finds his game again. He's untradeable right now, they have no cap space to add anyone and he's terrible ( GS 32 .901 sp 3.66 gaa -2.77 gsaa). Spencer Martin spontaneously combusted and poor Colin Dellia was thrown to the wolves.
If they want to move forward they need other goaltending. i don't think a back up behind Demko solves your problem.
Vancouver has some top notch offensive players like Quinn Hughes, Elias Petterssen, J.T. Miller, maybe Kuzmenko. i'm thinking Hronek really helps the defense. This is a bit of the Winnipeg problem where they have a few golden patches and gaping holes everywhere else. The offense without Horvat wont be enough.
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Chicago won 3 cups with their last rebuild. Now they are rebuilding again with a shot for Bedard. And here are the Canucks still doing the same bullshit and still stuck in mediocrity. This franchise is hopeless. I used to be a hardcore Canucks fan now I'm a casual Canucks fan. Forever in mediocrity.
You sound like a causal
They were also the last team successful to do a rebuild lot of them over the last decade have been the retooling ones not to say rebuilds can’t work not a lot of success stories
It's kinda obvious what management did regarding Bruce. They probably knew he wasn't the best coach for them but firing him early would start an uproar so they waited till the team became a tire fire so that they could easily fire him. Obvs the timing was horrible and it's a shitty way to do business but... That's how it goes
move a puck handling defenseman to third line center?
When u always said “I don’t think I’ll see them win a cup in my lifetime” I’d say are you kidding we will do this and I was always thinking in my mind they’ll dought u but after watching for more years now I honestly don’t think it’ll happen at-least anytime soooooon. It’s just honestly frustrating seeing this I can’t imagine how you’ve felt for over 50 years and all Canucks fans need to start cheering for other teams aswell
keep plugging away
Vancouver is a non-playoff team with a couple (?) of "stars" and yet has a no-space in salary cup? When they try to improve for the next season, they get rid of the best players - last year Markstrom and a couple more, this year Horvat. Who is at fault?
I find it hard to laugh at those facing adversity. It certainly deflates my view of a fan base, as it must to the players & team, which we know read & hear the comments as well. Prior to the Canucks entering the NHL I was a die-hard Canadiens fan from my youth onwards during all those Stanley Cup runs. (I still root for them as my second team). The days of the original 6 & NHL team dynasties are long gone. That said, I have felt disappointment as well during the Canucks coming so close to the Stanley Cup in their past runs but it demonstrates they CAN do it! I remain optimistic at the beginning of each season as a new start for the Canucks & a run for the Cup in the very near future.
I only have one question, what you need to do if you saw a mouse in your house? I saw your answer is burn the house and build a new one 😮
As I was a fan in the 1980's of the Canucks. I'm traumatized from the Downhill Skate era. I do not like the Star Wars Skate. Black is fine with the Orca. I don't even mind Stick in Rick or Johnny Canuck.
There's always next year, right? (cue thousands of Canucks fans screaming "NO" at their screens)
hobbits on ice...They refuse to bring in toughness and grit. they keep looking to find the next cost effective Kevin Fiala type player. they draft these types (lekkermakki) they trade for these types (kravstov) and a whole farm system of these types. Until they start looking outside the box like with Dakota they are always going to be a soft team over the cap.
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Can someone explain to me how the Canucks are over the cap next season? No matter what contracts I count it doesn’t add up to the 85m. Even less so when the listed roster size of those 85m is 19 players. What am I missing?
capfriendly shows the Canucks being about 1.5M over cap for 23-24
Pettersson would be insanely stupid to sign long term if the Canucks miss again next season
He will likely need to sign this summer if he's staying. Am curious what happens myself
myers bonus is paid out September 15 not july 1st
Shannon, I know that you're trying to be nice but there is nothing "holding OEL back". He just plain sucks and the contract is untradeable
If the Canucks did not start the season 0-5-2 they would have been in the late season playoff push
1993-94 The Canucks knock off the #2,#3,#4 seeds going 12-5 before losing to the Rangers in the Final and that was not the most disappointing season? Must be brutal being a Canucks fan.
tbh I hate saying this but hoping oel injury is ltir or carrer ending, thats how they get out of cap hell
remember team play without puck
Should have kept Boudreau and maybe give Tocchet a fresh season. That way we would've tanked hard for Bedard. Although the problem that may arise would be star players like Pety and Hughes wanting out because the team sucks. We still have a chance to bring Bedard home...
Even if the kept Bruce they were never finishing in the bottom 5 no matter what
@@dtrain9911 I'm pretty sure the Canucks would have had the top 3 overall pick with Bruce at the helm. The team was busy scoring 3-5+ goals every night playing a run-and-gun game, but would still lose cuz we let in 4-6+goals every night...
I've watched many games where we had a 3-0 lead in the 1st period only to lose 3-5 in period 3. It was painful...
@@benchow8851 not true at all especially with when Demko came back but they brought the coach in they wanted to change the culture in the room early on give him a chance to install his structure early on. Hoping we would finish in the bottom 5 isn’t a plan changing the culture for the future long term thinking verses luck in the draft.
@@dtrain9911 Bedard is projected to be the next franchise changer. We've seen what these types of players can do for a franchise in the past(Crosby, Ovie, McDavid). We weren't making the playoffs anyway, so why not tank even harder to get the best odds for a generational player.
@@benchow8851 piss off pettersson and Hughes in the process great shortsighted thinking let’s hope we get lucky to get one really good player who hasn’t played a game in the nhl. While it would be nice to get him unless you’re willing to trade the best d man this franchise has had we were never going to get him
Easily Ohlund, Edler or Salo ahead of Jovanovski.
I don’t think we can read a thing into how the Canucks played under Tocchet. When Bruce replaced Green, the Canucks went on a run as well. So is this the game plan for management? Buy themselves time by changing coaches every year so they can go on a run and get a lower draft pick while they pretend the problem is solved? I would say ownership will eventually have questions, but given how things turned out in the last 2-3 years, I highly doubt that. They just want 2 home playoff games by any means necessary. So it’s next season, same as the last. What’s the definition of insanity? Repeating the same mistake over and over and expecting a different outcome. Welcome to Vancouver.
I’ve said this to many times to many people what you’re saying now is what Rutherford said last year he told us the play under Bruce wasn’t sustainable. Why now is different he believes in the coach he has and the system he has been putting them in place it’s up to management to give the players he needs
When is mikheyev returning?
He should be ready for training camp.
Couldn't afford to use the Egyptian God Of Frustration, Shannon?
0% chance Canucks make the playoffs with both Myers and OEL on the team next year. If they can’t move Myers then they have to buyout OEL this summer. Won’t take the team seriously if both are playing prominent roles next year.
I thought they signed Juulsen
Canucks with the lowest odds Iof getting bedard at 3%, but the fan base that’s more deserving than any other team on the list. Hope you can shock the league and get him, but of course there’s a 97% chance you won’t.
Any chance they name JT captain?
lets be honest with ourselves here ,watching the playoffs what do you see ? speed, hitting,team depth scoring size and ,desperation Are the canucks even close to this NO
In some areas yes in others no
Where’s Kuzmenko?
Probably on holiday.
@@TheHockeyGuy probably eating a 🍌🍌
Things to take away:
- no playoffs
- already over the cap for next year
- new coach, played great at end of year……. Again
- part of the excitement for this years draft has been traded away
If only there was a way to know how much you could spend on salaries in a year and not go over it, like a “cap” or something
I’ll say it again management is the issue
Not ownership? Maybe I don't understand the way the Canucks' work but if they're a team where ownership meddles...
It's both but a heavy portion of it comes from meddling from Aquilini. At some point when a team or organization is struggling then you have to start looking at the top.
i mean what do you expect from a fraudulent billionaire child abuser
Podz reminds me of Goldobin. Somehow a lot of potential but it just never seems to work for some reason
I disagree- Goldobin had some flash but he didn’t seem like a hard worker on the ice, which I think Podz shows. I hope it clicks for him one day soon and he potsgoalzin all day
@@aardsnark940 Lets hope so
I bet we will talk about us winning the cup after next season.
Andrei Kuzmenko?
Is Shannon a Vancouver Canucks Fan?
Well let's see .. he lives about 40 minutes outside of Vancouver.. that's a good hint
Gotta love a team that overplays its stars in meaningless games to prove how good they’re gonna be next season. Who are they going to be better than in the West given that St Louis and Calgary are probably closer to being playoff teams?