Dear God, living in London from 1988 to 2000 was the most incredible period of my life, musically. Drinking in Camden when these bands were starting out, and sometimes even bumping into them in the Good Mixer was insane.
I met a guy who had been living there at that time and had to throw Robbie Williams out of a party for bringing to MANY drugs! (He was with Crispin Hunt of Longpigs, so I was more impressed with him knowing Hunt as that band were amazing!)
This was such a cool documentary. I relieved my late teenage years and early adulthood. I loved Blur, Suede and Supergrass. All of the music reminded me of my best friend who died 10 years ago. We used to listen to Blur and Suede all day long. Pop a CD and just talk, drink, smoke. I miss her every single day.
It’s so great to see Justine looking so happy and healthy and relaxed. She was my idol in the 90s and it was so difficult to see her struggle, so it’s lovely to see her here
I'm in America, and moved from the snowy northeast to Tampa Bay, Florida, in late 1989. As this music was happening in the UK in the early 90s, there were two distinct scenes happening in Florida: grunge and the underground house/techno scene. For a time, I was doing my best Stephen Perkins impression as a rock drummer during bar hours, then heading to warehouse parties or after hours clubs to play live techno music (a few recordings remain, search YT with terms like "Lovecraft Florida Techno" and "Robert Intile Cheshire Cat" to hear some of them). We (Lovecraft) always wanted to merge our electronic duo with a rock band, but no one was doing that over here. The Brits had a number of groups combining melodic garage rock with dancefloor-ready loops and drum machines. But we couldn't get any labels on board here. We didn't have the resources to hire a studio band (and, hopefully, a touring band), so we invited A&R guys to our dates up and down the east coast. Our audiences were all fish in barrels: playing live electronic music to a room full of people on MDMA was a pretty easy sell. The label reps all said "we had fun at your show, but we don't know how to market you." Nirvana and Pearl Jam dominated radio, and the underground scene was just too far off the radar for the straight world to get it at the time. If we had come along in 97 instead 91, or if we had been in the UK (which was ahead of the curve on mixing live instruments with samples) it might have been a different story. I'm still playing live electronic music today. If you attend EDC Orlando next month, come see the live set from Prophecy. We're playing Sunday at sunset at the Ryno Art Car stage 🙂
As an American kid who realized in the late 80s that I loved the modern English sound (from all the new wave, synth pop, post punk, new romantic, etc.) and found the early 90s not all that exciting, Parklife was a mind blowing arrival to me. It is still one of my all time favorite albums. I wanted the English to come back (after a big presence thru most of the 80s in America) and Blur and Oasis did it.
Im an Indonesian but when i hear SUEDE & PULP.., it's like a representation of my social condition of living here.., it's so weird how some overseas band from a 1st world nation can be so contextual with the living here
Agreed. I always followed and saw them live many times but it wasn't until 13, which many people might consider the end of the party for them, that I REALLY realized their brilliance. Graham Coxon is quietly one the most creative and inventive rock guitar players of the whole lot. Radiohead get a lot of credit for being experimental and pushing the boundaries to create something new and genuine to themselves, of course, but that's a whole band firing on all cylinders. Everyone in Blur is great, but Graham... that guy is a one-man powerhouse of cool guitar parts. I'm really loving his new project with Rose Elinor Dougall from The Pipettes (who I also really liked) called The Waeve.
To back up your point, you're so right. Every song and every album grew in bigger and wider directions. They never rested on a formula. They were creative people (as evidenced by the several external side-projects of Graham and Damon - have Alex or Dave done other stuff too?)
This doc was good in a sense that I got to hear some stuff I’d never heard before from Suede and Elastica, but the fact they just pretty much ignored that Oasis blew the roof off the world from 94-96 is ridiculous and almost sinful.
This is about the birth of the movement. There is another BBC doc focused solely on The Battle of Britpop between Blur and Oasis that speaks extensevely about that period.
@@PoisonedApathy seen documentaries about that boring rivalry too many times. Suede, Pulp, The Manics and even The Verve were better than Oasis and Blur.
Remember the first time I heard "The Beautiful Ones" on tv...Oasis was the shit and then Blur, The Verve and The Charlatans all released killer albums...a great era of british music. Now, as a music teacher, when I show this to the younger generation - they like it too! A good song is a good song, no matter when it's written. I think a lot of teenagers can relate to the realism and hard times described in a light-hearted feel.
Will we see anything like it again or has the emergence of tech, streaming, the record labels aversion to edgy or not tried and tested music, plus the more restrictive modes of speech that have filtered through the culture, made it highly unlikely? I was look at a Reading festival lineup in 2003 and comparing it to this year and the difference in quality and depth is shocking.
I am so far away here in Brazil but luckily I witnessed it as best as I could from CD's, MTV and magazines. First listened to Suede's debut in 93 and have been a huge fan ever since. Thanks for uploading this.👍
Thanks, Eduardo, for your perspective. Here in Toronto, we Anglophiles got a lot of our information about the contemporary British music scene from publications like NME, Select and Melody Maker. Even though I should have known better, the hype merchants had me partially convinced that Inspiral Carpets, Betty Boo and S.M.A.S.H! were going to be bigger than Jesus. And then I actually listened to their music.
Surely Spring 89 - « The Stone Roses « Album is the birth of the British revival and new sound developed into so called Cool Britannia , Followed by the Charlatans « Some Friendly « in 1990 .. Suede coming in later together with Pulp , The Verve, Blur and Oasis .. Great video , Suede great band remembering seeing early on in Brussels and really impressed but you can’t take away the massive prior impact of the Stone Roses and Charlatans …. By the way Pulp’s « Common People « was a classic of mid 90s UK - London . Thanks for video
@@jsquire5pa i was woundering where al the major players where me self stone roses oasis charltans happy mondays ie the working class ones apart from pulp it was all the ones that been student or uni graduated bands
Suede were/are such a unique band. They might have started Britpop but they created a universe all of their own. Their music is also much more sophisticated than that of most Britpop-bands, lyrically they have so much more depth.
Nah. They're shyte. Even more middle class and up their own arses than the rest of the Brit Pop posers. Don't believe the hype. Britpop was a tabloid creation for all of the Johnny-come-latelies that missed out on Baggy/Madchester and Shoegaze.
Despite their lack of success here in America, Suede was the most unique of these bands, and are the only one that is still making interesting music. It only makes sense that the band that started Brit Pop is the only one that still exists but is just as important today as they were in the early nineties.
@@losely451 nevertheless its the greatest pop success of any of these cats in america sans oasis maybe, albarn is a non stop creative, the output alone is worthy
The Smiths were more influential. The decade before. I'm also surprised you understand the London accents and even the irony of these bands. (Smiths from Manchester though; too difficult for you) Fair play though. You've got good taste mate.
I did''t know what i was hearing, actually. Mark Lanegan was one of the most genuine artists I've ever seen with a fascinating voice and brilliant writer too. It's obvious not everyone could make the distinction between quality from over the pond and quality in Britain. Apart from this, I really enjoyed this documentary.
Anything that wasn't fruity or effeminate was a no no to these bands. That's why they were so threatened by grunge bands and why they were never big in the U.S.
Yes very disappointed they made the Anderson-Frischmann-Albarn triad the centrepiece of this documentary. Ignoring some great 90s bands and giving so much time to a bang average band like Elastica, just because they were female fronted.
@@Villarosa_ I can think of so many 90s bands better than Elastica, and can add many excellent female fronted ones that are better: Portishead, Garbage, Catatonia, Skunk Anansie As a solo female artist, PJ Harvey is so much more original and interesting than Brett and Damon's 'muse' Justine. Very frustrating that this documentary decided to rewrite history and make JF the 90s goddess of Britpop and indie rock (and with Oasis a footnote too! Not how I remember it) but hey ho.
@@jimmycampbell78So true! The other britpop documentary Live Forever (which is also on TH-cam) is so much better and focuses more on Oasis, Pulp and Blur and the art, fashion, magazines and politics of the time.
English bands using their accents and talking about everyday life was nothing new. Town called Malice by The Jam, Lazy Sunday Afternoon by the Small Faces, just off the top of my head...
It wasn’t new at all but after a decade of Americanised sounding bands it was a brilliant thing to turn on the radio and hear British accents, the 80’s were far to Americanised in music.
As an Aussie, this gels with much of how it hit us down here - we got Suede's Drowners and Blur's Tomorrow somewhere in mid 1993. And then had Pulp's First Time, Blur's Parklife, before we ever had any Oasis. I think the first Oasis song that was pushed heavily was "Whatever" in December '94 - they had TV ads pushing them - and the first version of Definitely Maybe CD case I saw had an extra CD in there with Whatever on it.
Another Aussie here, right there with ya! True, It was Blur and Elastica all the way; then all of a sudden Oasis was all over the radio! I was a JJJ girl and of course too cool for Oasis (I think because Tripe M was playing them 😂). I also saw Supergrass in 95 or 96 and loved them too! Gees, now I feel old, but at least I’m not alone ❤
I love the way the BBC, and journos version of what happened, is just a reflection of their little bubble (humdrum Britain etc). It’s really cute. Don’t think they were invited to any of the parties sadly, but it’s nice that they think they were involved.
imagine talking about the chaff of lackluster nirvana imitators that came in the wake of "smells like teen spirit" becoming a worldwide hit and you decide to choose screaming trees
I loved this. I lived through it from the American perspective and I was much more into this scene than I was the hard rock guitar thing that was happening here (not just grunge, but the overall vibe of guitar bands here still hung on to the 80s like a bad hangover). I was more into what became "shoegaze" and "dream pop", as I was into Cocteau Twins and post-punk stuff in the 80s and to me, that was the logical next step, but once I got past the hype around, mostly Blur and Oasis, and really listened to these bands in their own contexts, I loved a lot of them. Suede were brilliant with Bernard, but I'd be lying if I said Coming Up wasn't my favorite album of theirs.
I don't know how Suede got their sound. Their melodies were out of this world just like Bowie and other various sources which I can't think of right now:- I can hear the influences of various artists but I can't put my finger on the melody:+
Great documentary, also for including not only the obvious journalists, but also people like Bidisha and Miranda Sawyer who were quite prolific at that time. I still consider Suede and Elastica the bands with the best rhythm sections of all mid-90s Britpop bands. The people who say that Oasis aren't covered enough in this doc probably have forgotten that both Blur and Suede had Top 10 singles before Oasis even released their debut single.
@@EdEditz I have actually only met people who love the song. It's the strings for me. I normally like strings but that plus gloomy albarn isn't appealing. Ah well. Each to their own.
@@butterflymoon6368 Yes it's a bit of a weird one this. I like the strings too but especially that trumpet melody/chorus. It's sort of euphoric sounding. I like that. After that the song repeats itself and that second chorus I don't like at all. They could have done better with that but it sounds to me they were out of ideas and rushed it. But like you said, to each their own.
I hope they're not insinuating that The Screaming Trees were one of the ten-for-a-penny grunge bands!? Because The Screaming Trees were a band who were lumped in with, and yet were miles ahead of the 'grunge' lot. A band who were better than most of the other bands but got left behind thanks to death (Lanegan's mate, Kurt), drugs including crack and heroin (Kurt, Mark, Dylan, Layne, etc.), bad timing etc... The Tree's ruled!
What a look back at talented individuals and bands who, with the lazy sweep of the brush of history. all got lumped together (sort of like 1977 NY "punk"). I moved to England from the US in 1992 and this brought back that feeling of being in a country at the cusp of transformation done the British way. These bands embodied it. I stayed for 27 years! I'm grateful to have seen so many of them live.
@@I_Have_The_Most_Japanese_Music Life takes you where you need to be sometimes. Tough decision but I still have strong ties to the UK with kids there and I try to get back several times a year. And yes, I will be supporting England over the US in the World Cup. Too much blood, sweat, and tears over the years (mainly tears) supporting England!
@@BriguyO Setting aside for a moment that you may have abandoned very young, possibly illegitimate children in an effort to escape the law (the details were not made clear), I can NOT abide your supporting England over the U.S.--which you would have to know is usually folly anyhow. How did they even let you back into the country SMH. _DUDE._ BTW, what kind of form is England in right now (the team; I know the country's a dire mess)?
@@I_Have_The_Most_Japanese_Music You are cracking me up! Kids are not really kids but adults now - all doing well and navigating the trials of growing up at a time when this generation is the first one to be worse off than their predecessors. Yes, the UK is in a dire state thanks to COVID, the Brexit Effect and the country being run by a bunch of plonkers. Regarding the England football team, it will be tough to repeat the success they had in the Euro Championships but I will cheer them on nonetheless.
@@BriguyO Plonkers? That's pretty strong language. Do the kids have dual citizenship (I don't know anything about the women involved although it sounds like they're still over there)? I don't even want to think about the effects that 27 years of warm beer have had on your brain but do you understand that you are the people that the English wanted to get out of their country? They despise you even more than they hate the Welsh. BTW what kind of form is that team in?
Brit bands can be really cocky. But you have so many excellent musicians in the same room, you're looking for ways to break the mold. And it was done with great style, production, and songwriting. Brit bands of this era were kings of the hook. Hooks and looks. As an American musician, I listened and learned.
This documentary was very good for coverage on Suede, Elastica, and a bit of Blur - It mainly focuses on the birth of Britpop. if you are more interested in Oasis, Blur and Pulp (and sleeper etc) and the fashion/ artwork and magazines of the time Live Forever really focuses on that and the height of the britpop era. Watching both is great because then you get coverage from the whole scene. Man I wish I was a teen in the nineties
Ah yes, I loved living _just_ outside Central London between 1993 to 2005. Exactly 20 miles away actually, on the Surrey border of Sutton/Wallington/Purley... Easy to get a bus or train up to anywhere in London, and after 6pm - easy to drive and park anywhere in London after then. Great fun hanging about after the gigs, instead of rushing to get the last tube home to make sure you got to school then next day! 😁
I was 12 in 1995 - all this stuff is the first music I liked that wasn't introduced to me by my parents. I think my whole 'ironically detached is the same as being cool' comes from this kind of stuff. Never really let that go...
Anyone watching this go get the book, The Last Party by John Harris for a real indept look at Suede, Elastica, Blur, Oasis...etc..for the brilliance and madness of those few amazing years of the greatest music ever produced in the UK ...imo
I was at the Glastonbury Festival when Major resigned to stand again for leadership.When it was announced from the stage,you had to be there.A 100,000 people going absolutely crazy with happiness.
'The country experienced a musical revolution... (...) who gatecrashed the mainstream... and sent shockwaves through the UK' No. The point about all this music was how familiar it was - your parents could sing along to Oasis because it reminded them of the Beatles, and you could take the piss out of Blur's working class pretensions. Was this the most exciting and innovative music being produced at the time? No. And, just to be clear, it was conspicuoulsy devoid of predominant trends and influences in the UK (London and other major cities). It was all so reassuringly safe - and for that fact embraced by the BBC et al.
The Kinks are the be-all and end-all for sure, but Ray Davies loves a lot of these bands that he influenced. There's a great clip of him and Damon Albarn performing 'Waterloo Sunset' (before Ray launches into in impromptu version of 'Parklife'), the whole time he's beaming like a proud Dad... and so he should. Also, he could relate the sibling rivalry in Oasis. But yes, the Kinks set the ultimate benchmark for Brit Pop, and they're still the best.
Clayton Bouldin First heard about them on a Kate Bush documentary. Apparently the singer is a big KB fan. Edit: Sorry not Suede. I was thinking of someone else.
The Auteurs "After Murder Park" confined all the other pretend LPs to the dustbin of mediocrity. A masterpiece alongside Luke Haine's one-off "Baader Meinhof" LP.
During that era, Suede completely passed me by, i don't know what all the fuss was about. Whatever term you want to give it, in those days it was Blur, Manic Street Preachers in 1993, swiftly followed by Oasis, Pulp and Black Grape.
I worked ar maison rouge as the tea boy when blur were making parklife. They were great. Unlike my tea probably! Never thought it would become such a massive record. I remember the engineer mixing bank holiday late at night over and over, without the band there and smoking alot of weed..was never my favorite track!
Interesting to see how The Smiths made a whole new generation, as Stone Roses massively contributed later in the 80s, that would develop in this huge thing called Britpop.
Definitely, even without Brit Pop: Primal Scream, Prodigy, Massive Attack, Tricky, Bjork, Portishead, Stereolab, Goldfrapp, Broadcast, Orbital, The Orb, Goldie, Aphex Twin, Plaid. etc.
The 70s and 80s were considerable better, generally speaking the music of the 1990s was extremely poor apart from the underground electronic stuff…With the exception of suede,( who did have a good guitar player) these bands are appalling compared to their 60s counterparts…
Going tomorrow to see Suede for the first time in 20 years (I walked away at Glastonbury 2003, they just weren't the same anymore but actually I am liking a lot of their stuff since Coming Up - I certainly don't play that one! Aghhh!) Now though I'm well excited. Taking our son and watching this documentary tonight so he understands he's seeing the most important band of a generation. Not that I knew anyone else who liked the band apart from my brother (who is coming and bought us the tickets). Everyone else thought them awful and pretentious. Fools! PS I have realised this is my son's TH-cam account anyway so I could start this by writing, "My Dad's taking me to see this crappy old band from the 90's tomorrow and making me watch a silly documentary as well." (except he's actually only into music prior 1992 so he'd think Suede a bit modern.)
Elastica's album is one of the best ever made. The musical references, the guitar sounds reminiscent of the Stranglers and The Undertones, the fantastic song lyrics, the fact that it was a female fronted rock band which was just excellent, without making a big fuss about being women, unlike the Grrl band phenomenon happening elsewhere, the relatability, the just normalness of them and what they singing about I will always treasure.
Wish they wouldn’t have come out with Connection as the Radio release in the US…song sounds much better in the live clip than on radio. Will have to check out the rest of the album…
@@boynunboynun oh, I see. My mistake, thanks for clarifying. Still feel the other bands got the short shrift. I wonder if there's a second part to this.
@@qwertyuiopsdfgh part ll, barely made it through a 1/3 of this pretentious drivel,the twit cracking on soul asylum..then suede or whomever came on..& I felt just as sick to my stomach..give me the Sundays or Cranberries..ohh yeah to the twit, I like that screaming trees song alot..suedee 👎🏿ohehhsis👎🏿plup🚫 blur🤔ok..the verve👍,stone roses👍 Radiohead 👍👍🤟the stereophonics👍👍🤟the Sundays 👍👍👍🤟🤟
Brilliant documentary, ruined slightly by the ads. Just know, advertisers, that when we see your product repetatively in something we want to watch, we are definitely not buying it ever.
Best soundtrack to the best years of my life. Live shows were amazing from ‘85-‘00!!! 🥰🎧 Brett helped my bf realise it was ok to find other men sexy, and it was perfectly ok! Clubbing at Popscene SF from ‘96-‘99 goes down as some of the best nights of my life. Thx Omar and Eric x
This must be an old documentary as they didn’t mention “black”once! Nowadays they would make a documentary about how racist Brit pop was as there wasn’t any black bands!
Dear God, living in London from 1988 to 2000 was the most incredible period of my life, musically. Drinking in Camden when these bands were starting out, and sometimes even bumping into them in the Good Mixer was insane.
Haha, god I put away a lot of pints in there. Great memories
Damn I was born 10 years too late.
I met a guy who had been living there at that time and had to throw Robbie Williams out of a party for bringing to MANY drugs! (He was with Crispin Hunt of Longpigs, so I was more impressed with him knowing Hunt as that band were amazing!)
Must have been a fuckin great time, dude ! Lucky you !
I was there for the same two years totally concur. Most amazing time.
This was such a cool documentary. I relieved my late teenage years and early adulthood. I loved Blur, Suede and Supergrass. All of the music reminded me of my best friend who died 10 years ago. We used to listen to Blur and Suede all day long. Pop a CD and just talk, drink, smoke. I miss her every single day.
Shed seven soooooo under rated
How Brett and Mat can look so class, elegant and cool at the same time ? Like Bowie, they aged so well.
People will argue now that maybe Bowie hasn’t aged that well at all.
they are on what they are doing~
That's because they got lots and lots of lovely 💰.
@@Eleventhearlofmars - Especially considering that pretty much everything he did after 1980 is disposable.
It is all an affectation though isn't it? 'Musical ability not important' as the advert went?
I've been waiting to see Suede here in the States for 20+ years. Finally, I have my chance in a couple of months. BUZZING.
Just saw your comment and quick checked to get tickets for the MD show!! Can’t believe they’re touring again!! Awesome!! Thanks ❤
I went to the MD show with the manics also!
It’s so great to see Justine looking so happy and healthy and relaxed. She was my idol in the 90s and it was so difficult to see her struggle, so it’s lovely to see her here
She looks so much in peace with herself.
She has always been gorgeous
Ditto 💜
Thanks God Brett and Suede are still with us and getting better and better
I'm in America, and moved from the snowy northeast to Tampa Bay, Florida, in late 1989. As this music was happening in the UK in the early 90s, there were two distinct scenes happening in Florida: grunge and the underground house/techno scene. For a time, I was doing my best Stephen Perkins impression as a rock drummer during bar hours, then heading to warehouse parties or after hours clubs to play live techno music (a few recordings remain, search YT with terms like "Lovecraft Florida Techno" and "Robert Intile Cheshire Cat" to hear some of them).
We (Lovecraft) always wanted to merge our electronic duo with a rock band, but no one was doing that over here. The Brits had a number of groups combining melodic garage rock with dancefloor-ready loops and drum machines. But we couldn't get any labels on board here. We didn't have the resources to hire a studio band (and, hopefully, a touring band), so we invited A&R guys to our dates up and down the east coast. Our audiences were all fish in barrels: playing live electronic music to a room full of people on MDMA was a pretty easy sell.
The label reps all said "we had fun at your show, but we don't know how to market you." Nirvana and Pearl Jam dominated radio, and the underground scene was just too far off the radar for the straight world to get it at the time. If we had come along in 97 instead 91, or if we had been in the UK (which was ahead of the curve on mixing live instruments with samples) it might have been a different story.
I'm still playing live electronic music today. If you attend EDC Orlando next month, come see the live set from Prophecy. We're playing Sunday at sunset at the Ryno Art Car stage 🙂
As an American kid who realized in the late 80s that I loved the modern English sound (from all the new wave, synth pop, post punk, new romantic, etc.) and found the early 90s not all that exciting, Parklife was a mind blowing arrival to me. It is still one of my all time favorite albums. I wanted the English to come back (after a big presence thru most of the 80s in America) and Blur and Oasis did it.
American here too! Couldn’t have said how I felt any better than you just did! Thanks 🙏🏼
I'd say Leisure is the best Blur album, all bangers.
Im an Indonesian but when i hear SUEDE & PULP.., it's like a representation of my social condition of living here.., it's so weird how some overseas band from a 1st world nation can be so contextual with the living here
Once I heard the Smiths, XTC, Kate Bush, and Madness while away at college my world view of music completely changed. Everything after is a blessing
Blur is still highly underrated. Not many bands have hits with songs that all sound like they're completely different genres.
Agreed. I always followed and saw them live many times but it wasn't until 13, which many people might consider the end of the party for them, that I REALLY realized their brilliance. Graham Coxon is quietly one the most creative and inventive rock guitar players of the whole lot. Radiohead get a lot of credit for being experimental and pushing the boundaries to create something new and genuine to themselves, of course, but that's a whole band firing on all cylinders. Everyone in Blur is great, but Graham... that guy is a one-man powerhouse of cool guitar parts. I'm really loving his new project with Rose Elinor Dougall from The Pipettes (who I also really liked) called The Waeve.
To back up your point, you're so right. Every song and every album grew in bigger and wider directions. They never rested on a formula. They were creative people (as evidenced by the several external side-projects of Graham and Damon - have Alex or Dave done other stuff too?)
Try XTC
Overrated
Well it wasn’t blue that put a breakbeat under that track so thanks to the producers I guess.
This is a version of events through the eyes of somone that only likes a few very particular bands.
This doc was good in a sense that I got to hear some stuff I’d never heard before from Suede and Elastica, but the fact they just pretty much ignored that Oasis blew the roof off the world from 94-96 is ridiculous and almost sinful.
this should be called "Suede, a bit of Elastica and a sniff of Blur". Oasis, Pulp among others are incredibly ignored
I remember when suede filled stadiums in Argentina where everyone knew the lyrics. wait. I never heard of them before this doc.
This is about the birth of the movement. There is another BBC doc focused solely on The Battle of Britpop between Blur and Oasis that speaks extensevely about that period.
@@PoisonedApathy seen documentaries about that boring rivalry too many times. Suede, Pulp, The Manics and even The Verve were better than Oasis and Blur.
@@manephewlenny6401 You must be Welsh. The Manics are the worst band you mention.
Remember the first time I heard "The Beautiful Ones" on tv...Oasis was the shit and then Blur, The Verve and The Charlatans all released killer albums...a great era of british music. Now, as a music teacher, when I show this to the younger generation - they like it too! A good song is a good song, no matter when it's written. I think a lot of teenagers can relate to the realism and hard times described in a light-hearted feel.
Every early blur album had a song about America-theyre so full of shit
Will we see anything like it again or has the emergence of tech, streaming, the record labels aversion to edgy or not tried and tested music, plus the more restrictive modes of speech that have filtered through the culture, made it highly unlikely? I was look at a Reading festival lineup in 2003 and comparing it to this year and the difference in quality and depth is shocking.
I am so far away here in Brazil but luckily I witnessed it as best as I could from CD's, MTV and magazines. First listened to Suede's debut in 93 and have been a huge fan ever since. Thanks for uploading this.👍
Thanks, Eduardo, for your perspective. Here in Toronto, we Anglophiles got a lot of our information about the contemporary British music scene from publications like NME, Select and Melody Maker. Even though I should have known better, the hype merchants had me partially convinced that Inspiral Carpets, Betty Boo and S.M.A.S.H! were going to be bigger than Jesus. And then I actually listened to their music.
Surely Spring 89 - « The Stone Roses « Album is the birth of the British revival and new sound developed into so called Cool Britannia , Followed by the Charlatans « Some Friendly « in 1990 .. Suede coming in later together with Pulp , The Verve, Blur and Oasis .. Great video , Suede great band remembering seeing early on in Brussels and really impressed but you can’t take away the massive prior impact of the Stone Roses and Charlatans …. By the way Pulp’s « Common People « was a classic of mid 90s UK - London . Thanks for video
Yes .. a rubbish documentary.. also relegating keys bands within britpop to footnotes .. utter trash
@@jsquire5pa i was woundering where al the major players where me self stone roses oasis charltans happy mondays ie the working class ones apart from pulp it was all the ones that been student or uni graduated bands
Happy Mondays are the band that changed UK Indie music.
Suede were/are such a unique band. They might have started Britpop but they created a universe all of their own. Their music is also much more sophisticated than that of most Britpop-bands, lyrically they have so much more depth.
Spot on... Dog Man Star 💜
Than Blur? You’re highly biased
Nah. They're shyte. Even more middle class and up their own arses than the rest of the Brit Pop posers. Don't believe the hype. Britpop was a tabloid creation for all of the Johnny-come-latelies that missed out on Baggy/Madchester and Shoegaze.
@@pyenapple Suede was hailed as the great new hope of the early 90s. There was a lot of hype surrounding the band more than with Blur.
@@miinfl7143 cool story bro
Despite their lack of success here in America, Suede was the most unique of these bands, and are the only one that is still making interesting music. It only makes sense that the band that started Brit Pop is the only one that still exists but is just as important today as they were in the early nineties.
Does it count that Blur’s Damon created Gorillaz who’s big in the US?
@@impopquiz Sorry I have never understood the interest in Gorillaz. I find them to be a bit overrated and a bit of an overextended novelty act.
Blur aren’t broken up ya dingbat
@@losely451 nevertheless its the greatest pop success of any of these cats in america sans oasis maybe, albarn is a non stop creative, the output alone is worthy
The Smiths were more influential.
The decade before.
I'm also surprised you understand the London accents and even the irony of these bands.
(Smiths from Manchester though; too difficult for you)
Fair play though.
You've got good taste mate.
I wouldn’t call Screaming Trees crap. ‘ Nearly Lost You ‘ is a great song.
Yeah screaming trees were way better than most of britpop
@@BrownElectrons absolutely.
I did''t know what i was hearing, actually. Mark Lanegan was one of the most genuine artists I've ever seen with a fascinating voice and brilliant writer too. It's obvious not everyone could make the distinction between quality from over the pond and quality in Britain. Apart from this, I really enjoyed this documentary.
Anything that wasn't fruity or effeminate was a no no to these bands. That's why they were so threatened by grunge bands and why they were never big in the U.S.
Yeah there were a lot of bands they could have picked and yet they pick the screaming trees. Tells you something about the producers of this.
it should be called the London suede documentary
Yes very disappointed they made the Anderson-Frischmann-Albarn triad the centrepiece of this documentary. Ignoring some great 90s bands and giving so much time to a bang average band like Elastica, just because they were female fronted.
@@jimmycampbell78 also there were other great female fronted bands in the 90s like sleeper ffs
@@Villarosa_ I can think of so many 90s bands better than Elastica, and can add many excellent female fronted ones that are better:
Portishead, Garbage, Catatonia, Skunk Anansie
As a solo female artist, PJ Harvey is so much more original and interesting than Brett and Damon's 'muse' Justine.
Very frustrating that this documentary decided to rewrite history and make JF the 90s goddess of Britpop and indie rock (and with Oasis a footnote too! Not how I remember it) but hey ho.
@@jimmycampbell78So true! The other britpop documentary Live Forever (which is also on TH-cam) is so much better and focuses more on Oasis, Pulp and Blur and the art, fashion, magazines and politics of the time.
Without the word London, because most people just know them as Suede.
English bands using their accents and talking about everyday life was nothing new. Town called Malice by The Jam, Lazy Sunday Afternoon by the Small Faces, just off the top of my head...
Cool Britannia was Tony Blair media bollocks😂
You can add the Kinks and Sham 69 for that matter!
@@RobBCactivethe Kinks made whole albums concerning that!
Arctic Monkeys, too!
It wasn’t new at all but after a decade of Americanised sounding bands it was a brilliant thing to turn on the radio and hear British accents, the 80’s were far to Americanised in music.
As an Aussie, this gels with much of how it hit us down here - we got Suede's Drowners and Blur's Tomorrow somewhere in mid 1993. And then had Pulp's First Time, Blur's Parklife, before we ever had any Oasis. I think the first Oasis song that was pushed heavily was "Whatever" in December '94 - they had TV ads pushing them - and the first version of Definitely Maybe CD case I saw had an extra CD in there with Whatever on it.
Another Aussie here, right there with ya! True, It was Blur and Elastica all the way; then all of a sudden Oasis was all over the radio! I was a JJJ girl and of course too cool for Oasis (I think because Tripe M was playing them 😂). I also saw Supergrass in 95 or 96 and loved them too! Gees, now I feel old, but at least I’m not alone ❤
I really love Suede... amazing guitar and unique voice.... just amazing
17:27 I don’t know if I’d include Screaming Trees in the “dreadful” category. Mark Lanegan is pretty legendary… RIP.
Julie Paradise is incredible
A truly wonderful band.
Yeah. Amazing band.
Fun doc...the 90's were an awesome time with many BLURred memories.
Suede Rules. The end. Thank you for making this.
In American we grew up on grunge. We weren’t exposed to a lot of the Brit pop bands past Oasis so I love documentaries like this
Thanks. A great documentary about a great era. 1995 forever!
Will Lamacq ever drink that fucking pint.
🤣
Its cold tea with a drop of fairy.
The pint is actually bigger than him, he’s scared of it.
I love the way the BBC, and journos version of what happened, is just a reflection of their little bubble (humdrum Britain etc). It’s really cute. Don’t think they were invited to any of the parties sadly, but it’s nice that they think they were involved.
imagine talking about the chaff of lackluster nirvana imitators that came in the wake of "smells like teen spirit" becoming a worldwide hit and you decide to choose screaming trees
Yep. Totally idiotic misfire
I concur...especially since Screaming Trees predated Nirvana by several years.
Agreed. ‘ Nearly Lost You ‘ is a great song.
Ooops! Wanker.
This is a good doc but very southern centric. A brief mention of Oasis and there were other great bands such as Cast and the verve
I forgot how much I love Suede!!
I loved this. I lived through it from the American perspective and I was much more into this scene than I was the hard rock guitar thing that was happening here (not just grunge, but the overall vibe of guitar bands here still hung on to the 80s like a bad hangover). I was more into what became "shoegaze" and "dream pop", as I was into Cocteau Twins and post-punk stuff in the 80s and to me, that was the logical next step, but once I got past the hype around, mostly Blur and Oasis, and really listened to these bands in their own contexts, I loved a lot of them. Suede were brilliant with Bernard, but I'd be lying if I said Coming Up wasn't my favorite album of theirs.
I don't know how Suede got their sound. Their melodies were out of this world just like Bowie and other various sources which I can't think of right now:- I can hear the influences of various artists but I can't put my finger on the melody:+
Not even close to Bowie.
@@shinybeast8946 they shouldnt even been mentioned in the same breath , a couple good songs an that it
Groups like the Verve, the Manic Street Preachers were great. Of course Oasis and Blur are the famous ones but there were some great bands around.
This is absolutely so well done and has a lot of great connections that I didn’t know about. Love Britpop!❤
Great documentary, also for including not only the obvious journalists, but also people like Bidisha and Miranda Sawyer who were quite prolific at that time. I still consider Suede and Elastica the bands with the best rhythm sections of all mid-90s Britpop bands. The people who say that Oasis aren't covered enough in this doc probably have forgotten that both Blur and Suede had Top 10 singles before Oasis even released their debut single.
Great video, great coverage, you‘re doing the world a service
Suede deserved all the credits about this new era about British music. Some people doesn't like it but is the truth.
Suede’s Matt Osman’s brother is Richard Osman, the co-presenter of Pointless
Does that make Matt Osman also a Fulham Fan like brother Richard and Damien from Blur ?
@@gnjp8340 I don’t think Matt is into football ⚽️
The Golden Age of Pop and Rock, 1950 - 2000. RIP.
I was waiting for interviews with Jarvis and Liam?!
th-cam.com/video/vJ4xW4UNjnQ/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for the upload..
Great to see The Auteurs get a mention.
Superb documentary, very much enjoyed it, thank you
47:13 The Universal is my favorite Blur song. Love it when that trumpet comes in. :)
I HATE that song.
@@butterflymoon6368 I can understand that. A lot of people do. I only like the first half then I usually turn it off :)
@@EdEditz I have actually only met people who love the song. It's the strings for me. I normally like strings but that plus gloomy albarn isn't appealing. Ah well. Each to their own.
@@butterflymoon6368 Yes it's a bit of a weird one this. I like the strings too but especially that trumpet melody/chorus. It's sort of euphoric sounding. I like that. After that the song repeats itself and that second chorus I don't like at all. They could have done better with that but it sounds to me they were out of ideas and rushed it. But like you said, to each their own.
I hope they're not insinuating that The Screaming Trees were one of the ten-for-a-penny grunge bands!? Because The Screaming Trees were a band who were lumped in with, and yet were miles ahead of the 'grunge' lot. A band who were better than most of the other bands but got left behind thanks to death (Lanegan's mate, Kurt), drugs including crack and heroin (Kurt, Mark, Dylan, Layne, etc.), bad timing etc... The Tree's ruled!
Agreed.
And putting Soul Asylum in the grunge category is wrong as well. 2nd rate Minneapolis sound. The Mats and Husker weren’t grunge.
Man this is taking me back to my uni days ❤
This Doku is real tight, thumbs up.
I remember Pulp starting and ending Britpop
very good ! watching on my day off from work
This is amazing!
Thank you!
What a look back at talented individuals and bands who, with the lazy sweep of the brush of history. all got lumped together (sort of like 1977 NY "punk"). I moved to England from the US in 1992 and this brought back that feeling of being in a country at the cusp of transformation done the British way. These bands embodied it. I stayed for 27 years! I'm grateful to have seen so many of them live.
Why did you leave?
@@I_Have_The_Most_Japanese_Music Life takes you where you need to be sometimes. Tough decision but I still have strong ties to the UK with kids there and I try to get back several times a year. And yes, I will be supporting England over the US in the World Cup. Too much blood, sweat, and tears over the years (mainly tears) supporting England!
@@BriguyO Setting aside for a moment that you may have abandoned very young, possibly illegitimate children in an effort to escape the law (the details were not made clear), I can NOT abide your supporting England over the U.S.--which you would have to know is usually folly anyhow. How did they even let you back into the country SMH. _DUDE._
BTW, what kind of form is England in right now (the team; I know the country's a dire mess)?
@@I_Have_The_Most_Japanese_Music You are cracking me up! Kids are not really kids but adults now - all doing well and navigating the trials of growing up at a time when this generation is the first one to be worse off than their predecessors. Yes, the UK is in a dire state thanks to COVID, the Brexit Effect and the country being run by a bunch of plonkers. Regarding the England football team, it will be tough to repeat the success they had in the Euro Championships but I will cheer them on nonetheless.
@@BriguyO Plonkers? That's pretty strong language. Do the kids have dual citizenship (I don't know anything about the women involved although it sounds like they're still over there)? I don't even want to think about the effects that 27 years of warm beer have had on your brain but do you understand that you are the people that the English wanted to get out of their country? They despise you even more than they hate the Welsh. BTW what kind of form is that team in?
Brit bands can be really cocky. But you have so many excellent musicians in the same room, you're looking for ways to break the mold. And it was done with great style, production, and songwriting. Brit bands of this era were kings of the hook. Hooks and looks. As an American musician, I listened and learned.
Most of the songs released in Britpop were total rubbish. It has been largely forgotten for good reason.
great documentary about suede, blur, and elastica by their management and favorite londonites
Brilliant documentary.
This documentary was very good for coverage on Suede, Elastica, and a bit of Blur - It mainly focuses on the birth of Britpop. if you are more interested in Oasis, Blur and Pulp (and sleeper etc) and the fashion/ artwork and magazines of the time Live Forever really focuses on that and the height of the britpop era. Watching both is great because then you get coverage from the whole scene. Man I wish I was a teen in the nineties
I was chatting to Alex James last night in Gerry’s on Dean St. His cat is my cat’s granny. 😂
They were amazing days, shame I didn't realise, at the time, how momentous it was. I was too busy getting pissed 🤣
I remember reading about Annie Holland’s departure and that Abby Travis of Beck’s band filled in for some shows.
Really interesting video, thank you
We need something like this to happen again, most music now is trash!
Start your own scene great fun with a lot of hard work, we had too.
Demographics has changed. Maybe Pakistani-Nigerian Brit pop now
I just don't think you like rap.
Ah yes, I loved living _just_ outside Central London between 1993 to 2005. Exactly 20 miles away actually, on the Surrey border of Sutton/Wallington/Purley... Easy to get a bus or train up to anywhere in London, and after 6pm - easy to drive and park anywhere in London after then. Great fun hanging about after the gigs, instead of rushing to get the last tube home to make sure you got to school then next day! 😁
Absolutely plus there are venues like the Half Moon Putney and great bands like the Alabama Three.
I was 12 in 1995 - all this stuff is the first music I liked that wasn't introduced to me by my parents. I think my whole 'ironically detached is the same as being cool' comes from this kind of stuff. Never really let that go...
Anyone watching this go get the book, The Last Party by John Harris for a real indept look at Suede, Elastica, Blur, Oasis...etc..for the brilliance and madness of those few amazing years of the greatest music ever produced in the UK ...imo
cool, I'll do that
Fantastic.....loved from a far in the US. Lucky to have seen Blur and Oasis "early on". Interested in what "angle" this show presents.
I was at the Glastonbury Festival when Major resigned to stand again for leadership.When it was announced from the stage,you had to be there.A 100,000 people going absolutely crazy with happiness.
Great interviews. But so many important bands weren’t included… even Pulp was only mentioned very little (!!)
The most exciting part of this documentary was the 20 seconds of Oasis' "Supersonic".
53:40 summarises the entire documentary, if you want to save yourself an hour.
I remember that MM front page as an avid reader of it back then.
I never went to a Britpop night in the 90's, I went to indie nights and loved it.
Good doc. I miss the '90s.
'The country experienced a musical revolution... (...) who gatecrashed the mainstream... and sent shockwaves through the UK'
No. The point about all this music was how familiar it was - your parents could sing along to Oasis because it reminded them of the Beatles, and you could take the piss out of Blur's working class pretensions. Was this the most exciting and innovative music being produced at the time? No. And, just to be clear, it was conspicuoulsy devoid of predominant trends and influences in the UK (London and other major cities). It was all so reassuringly safe - and for that fact embraced by the BBC et al.
The Kinks!, no one else is worthy.
The Kinks are the be-all and end-all for sure, but Ray Davies loves a lot of these bands that he influenced. There's a great clip of him and Damon Albarn performing 'Waterloo Sunset' (before Ray launches into in impromptu version of 'Parklife'), the whole time he's beaming like a proud Dad... and so he should. Also, he could relate the sibling rivalry in Oasis. But yes, the Kinks set the ultimate benchmark for Brit Pop, and they're still the best.
Never heard of Suede before this documentary. Had I known about them back in the 90s I would have been into them for sure.
First albums a classic
Clayton Bouldin First heard about them on a Kate Bush documentary. Apparently the singer is a big KB fan. Edit: Sorry not Suede. I was thinking of someone else.
The Auteurs "After Murder Park" confined all the other pretend LPs to the dustbin of mediocrity. A masterpiece alongside Luke Haine's one-off "Baader Meinhof" LP.
During that era, Suede completely passed me by, i don't know what all the fuss was about.
Whatever term you want to give it, in those days it was Blur, Manic Street Preachers in 1993, swiftly followed by Oasis, Pulp and Black Grape.
Mid 90s my favourite era 👍
I worked ar maison rouge as the tea boy when blur were making parklife. They were great. Unlike my tea probably! Never thought it would become such a massive record. I remember the engineer mixing bank holiday late at night over and over, without the band there and smoking alot of weed..was never my favorite track!
Interesting how everyone fancied Bret which I didn't understand at all. Now I get it.
Went to school in Haywards Heath. Got off and on at that train station for 5 years.
Fascinating.
@@mjh5437 one word. That’s all it took to make me spit my coffee out! 😅😅
Awesome
Interesting to see how The Smiths made a whole new generation, as Stone Roses massively contributed later in the 80s, that would develop in this huge thing called Britpop.
These kinda Docs remind you how recoiling many music journalists are.
Best decade for music since the sixties. We will never see the like again.
Definitely, even without Brit Pop: Primal Scream, Prodigy, Massive Attack, Tricky, Bjork, Portishead, Stereolab, Goldfrapp, Broadcast, Orbital, The Orb, Goldie, Aphex Twin, Plaid. etc.
The 70s and 80s were considerable better, generally speaking the music of the 1990s was extremely poor apart from the underground electronic stuff…With the exception of suede,( who did have a good guitar player) these bands are appalling compared to their 60s counterparts…
Going tomorrow to see Suede for the first time in 20 years (I walked away at Glastonbury 2003, they just weren't the same anymore but actually I am liking a lot of their stuff since Coming Up - I certainly don't play that one! Aghhh!) Now though I'm well excited. Taking our son and watching this documentary tonight so he understands he's seeing the most important band of a generation. Not that I knew anyone else who liked the band apart from my brother (who is coming and bought us the tickets). Everyone else thought them awful and pretentious. Fools! PS I have realised this is my son's TH-cam account anyway so I could start this by writing, "My Dad's taking me to see this crappy old band from the 90's tomorrow and making me watch a silly documentary as well." (except he's actually only into music prior 1992 so he'd think Suede a bit modern.)
Elastica's album is one of the best ever made. The musical references, the guitar sounds reminiscent of the Stranglers and The Undertones, the fantastic song lyrics, the fact that it was a female fronted rock band which was just excellent, without making a big fuss about being women, unlike the Grrl band phenomenon happening elsewhere, the relatability, the just normalness of them and what they singing about I will always treasure.
Wish they wouldn’t have come out with Connection as the Radio release in the US…song sounds much better in the live clip than on radio. Will have to check out the rest of the album…
More than just reminiscent, though. Think that was the problem. They were essentially a wire and stranglers cover band.
@@paulgordon6949 What do you recommend by Wire? I'm unfamiliar.
This was a Britpop doco but it relegated all the biggest bands like Blur, Oasis, Pulp to footnotes
The documentary is about the birth of britpop. Only suede were successful in the charts which is why the other bands are not mentioned much
For me this was a waste of time. I remember this era very well and the bands, who were very successfull.
@@boynunboynun oh, I see. My mistake, thanks for clarifying. Still feel the other bands got the short shrift. I wonder if there's a second part to this.
@@qwertyuiopsdfgh part ll, barely made it through a 1/3 of this pretentious drivel,the twit cracking on soul asylum..then suede or whomever came on..& I felt just as sick to my stomach..give me the Sundays or Cranberries..ohh yeah to the twit, I like that screaming trees song alot..suedee 👎🏿ohehhsis👎🏿plup🚫 blur🤔ok..the verve👍,stone roses👍 Radiohead 👍👍🤟the stereophonics👍👍🤟the Sundays 👍👍👍🤟🤟
Finding this made my day. Very grateful. So I‘ll return a compliment and say ta very much and up the Villa!
Nice one buddy, UTV!
Brilliant documentary, ruined slightly by the ads. Just know, advertisers, that when we see your product repetatively in something we want to watch, we are definitely not buying it ever.
Good to hear Suede. Wasn't Ricky Gervais their manager for a bit?
Best soundtrack to the best years of my life. Live shows were amazing from ‘85-‘00!!! 🥰🎧
Brett helped my bf realise it was ok to find other men sexy, and it was perfectly ok! Clubbing at Popscene SF from ‘96-‘99 goes down as some of the best nights of my life. Thx Omar and Eric x
Nothing compares to the 90s... Nothing!
good to see Justine 😊
The Kinks did all of this in the 60s.
Absolutely, and did it much better. Ray Davies is a genius.
We went to England in the early 80s. I saw punks and other rock looking type people in London.
These docs are great, but if it says BBC anywhere on the can, you just know, it's going to create it's own edited history.
That’s spot on ahah
This must be an old documentary as they didn’t mention “black”once! Nowadays they would make a documentary about how racist Brit pop was as there wasn’t any black bands!