I learned about Verdant Succession just a few days ago, and immediately ordered it for my Zask build, but after this video, I consider getting Vigor and Dread as well for it :D
How can you replay hornet queen when zask causes your insects that die to never hit the graveyard? Wouldnt that mean insect deaths would not proc verdant succession?
Zask says when they die put them on the bottom of the library, so they die, hit the graveyard, then are moved to the bottom of the library. If it said "put them on the bottom of your library instead" they wouldn't go to the graveyard first
@@tylergosdin4260 I don't think that's right. A death trigger has to happen before the enter the graveyard trigger, obviously. When it's placed into the library it goes from being a dead creature on the field to a card that is moving to your library. It never enters the graveyard.
@@alexzoin The difference is it's a death trigger, not a replacement effect. Replacement effects circumvent what WOULD normally happen. Something dying causes it to go to the graveyard. This is seen on other cards like Yedora, Grave Gardener, which brings your creatures back as forest lands after the die. The creatures die and still go to the graveyard triggering LTB and death triggers, but are then returned from the graveyard to the battlefield.
I'm making a Preston the Vanisher deck that focuses on venture into the Dungeon and initiative mechanics, meets party 🥳 and does have A use for it. The idea is to speed run through dungeons for value. Still uses a lot of the infinite combos pieces so theoretically could venture into the Dungeon infinitely. Technically could be kinda budget. I had to add anointed Procession, and obviously MOM when she's legal as well as Nykthos to bring the price up. An underrated card in Preston is Scion of Vitu-Ghazi. Etb make a bird then populate. Infinite populate anyone?
Which to be fair doesn't go infinite per se. But it will expound every one of your combats after you have blinked the original. They could just populate the token versions of themselves/each other/ whatever else you have a token of.
yes!! nesting dovehawk is great, and it doesnt really matter but i think the art matches preston's vibe really neatly :_) i wanted to build Preston bc i really like the artwork and the flicker tricks you can do, but im goldfishing it and i think going infinite every game would really not match the vibe of my playgroup i think i'll just wait for bloomburrow to come out in 2024! hopefully there'll be new commanders in a similar vibe to preston@@ProphetofEndTimes
How many times is homie gonna tutor in one game and not win instantly hahahaha the fuq also only game play of zask on TH-cam and you do elf tribal I feel ripped off
So many Zask and Grist decks on TH-cam be like "I dont want to do bugs, let me go way off script and do elves and skeletons" WTF! Insects aren't that bad!
I feel like the Verdant Succession combo is wrong. Zask says "whenever an insect dies put it on the bottom of its owner's library" so it never enters the graveyard? A creature is put into the graveyard after it dies. A death trigger has to happen before it enters the graveyard.
Matt is such a f@ckin pub stomper. Dude always just rolls up with the strongest tech and most expensive cards. Chill tf out dude, people other than you are trying to play.
@ that’s fair, sorry for coming off so strong. Good to know that you all actually play on the same level and by the same restrictions. Preciate the reply.
No worries, just had to stand up for my boy Matt ;) We currently have budget restrictions in place for our games (only three cards above $30 each per deck), but this video looks like it's an older one that was before we implemented that. But it would have been agreed upon before game that anything goes, so it's up to the rest of the table to be ready for that.
@@TheDankestDungeon nice, sounds like a well rounded approach to table balancing. Respect for the insight, have been watching you guys for about a year now. Love the channel, I’ll simmer down moving forward, mate! 🫡 Ps: the vid caught my eye bc I’m interested in Preston as my newest commander. Quick thoughts on that deck/commander?
Interesting loop, actually first time i saw this - neat!
Glad we could help out!
That's allot of elfs for insect tribal xD it's more of a combo deck rather than insect tribal imo
Scrolling the internet looking for inspiration on zask list and I stumble across this! Gross!
Yeah this deck was so boring
@@Rishkar-Peema-Pants yep super disappointing
Well.... that was just awesome GG guys! Love the content!
Thanks! 😀
I learned about Verdant Succession just a few days ago, and immediately ordered it for my Zask build, but after this video, I consider getting Vigor and Dread as well for it :D
Very nice!
OH DEAR GOD!! I CAN FUCK WITH SO MANY PEOPLE. thank
Well that certainly was interesting , I’m super new too commander but it’s videos like this that make me really want to start , new sub for sure
Glad we could be an inspiration 😁
First time watching, really liked it! Got yourself a new subscriber!
Welcome!
Ssssshhhhhhh.....you had me at "tokens I have to draw..."
Lol, it's a trick. I don't think he even ends up drawing any ;)
Corbyn! Great name! Great gameplay!
Lol, thanks!
That is a great deck building. I wonder how fast this deck if you dont get the gaea's cradle and the elf mana early.
We’ll have a follow up match with the same decks coming out soon, I don’t think Matt gets as explosive of a start in that one.
was wondering the same thing cause that was am insane amount of mana
How can you replay hornet queen when zask causes your insects that die to never hit the graveyard? Wouldnt that mean insect deaths would not proc verdant succession?
Zask says when they die put them on the bottom of the library, so they die, hit the graveyard, then are moved to the bottom of the library. If it said "put them on the bottom of your library instead" they wouldn't go to the graveyard first
@@tylergosdin4260 I don't think that's right. A death trigger has to happen before the enter the graveyard trigger, obviously. When it's placed into the library it goes from being a dead creature on the field to a card that is moving to your library. It never enters the graveyard.
@@alexzoin The difference is it's a death trigger, not a replacement effect. Replacement effects circumvent what WOULD normally happen. Something dying causes it to go to the graveyard. This is seen on other cards like Yedora, Grave Gardener, which brings your creatures back as forest lands after the die. The creatures die and still go to the graveyard triggering LTB and death triggers, but are then returned from the graveyard to the battlefield.
@@tylergosdin4260 Yeah, you are totally right. What a busted combo.
A very cool loop
Very cool win Matt. I think that loop is pretty cool and unique.
I'd love to see the Isu build
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@@TheDankestDungeon Boo.
Wow, wanted to see Mizzix and Isu in play... and I found a 20 min Commander game hahaha good game tho
I'm making a Preston the Vanisher deck that focuses on venture into the Dungeon and initiative mechanics, meets party 🥳 and does have A use for it. The idea is to speed run through dungeons for value. Still uses a lot of the infinite combos pieces so theoretically could venture into the Dungeon infinitely. Technically could be kinda budget. I had to add anointed Procession, and obviously MOM when she's legal as well as Nykthos to bring the price up.
An underrated card in Preston is Scion of Vitu-Ghazi. Etb make a bird then populate. Infinite populate anyone?
Nice!
scion of vitu-ghazi says "if you cast it from your hand" tho, no?
@@mymarshlands you are absolutely correct. I realized that a few days later. Of course now we have nesting dovehawk
Which to be fair doesn't go infinite per se. But it will expound every one of your combats after you have blinked the original. They could just populate the token versions of themselves/each other/ whatever else you have a token of.
yes!! nesting dovehawk is great, and it doesnt really matter but i think the art matches preston's vibe really neatly :_)
i wanted to build Preston bc i really like the artwork and the flicker tricks you can do, but im goldfishing it and i think going infinite every game would really not match the vibe of my playgroup
i think i'll just wait for bloomburrow to come out in 2024! hopefully there'll be new commanders in a similar vibe to preston@@ProphetofEndTimes
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Awesome job hahaha fyou lol ;)
Green makes me sick and tired 🙃
How many times is homie gonna tutor in one game and not win instantly hahahaha the fuq also only game play of zask on TH-cam and you do elf tribal I feel ripped off
Thanks for your input Steve Allen!
So many Zask and Grist decks on TH-cam be like "I dont want to do bugs, let me go way off script and do elves and skeletons" WTF! Insects aren't that bad!
I feel like the Verdant Succession combo is wrong.
Zask says "whenever an insect dies put it on the bottom of its owner's library" so it never enters the graveyard? A creature is put into the graveyard after it dies. A death trigger has to happen before it enters the graveyard.
elf tribal lol
lol
Matt is such a f@ckin pub stomper. Dude always just rolls up with the strongest tech and most expensive cards. Chill tf out dude, people other than you are trying to play.
Some players are just better than others, we all play by the same deck building rules and win/lose accordingly!
@ that’s fair, sorry for coming off so strong. Good to know that you all actually play on the same level and by the same restrictions. Preciate the reply.
@ what are the general restrictions you guys have?
No worries, just had to stand up for my boy Matt ;) We currently have budget restrictions in place for our games (only three cards above $30 each per deck), but this video looks like it's an older one that was before we implemented that.
But it would have been agreed upon before game that anything goes, so it's up to the rest of the table to be ready for that.
@@TheDankestDungeon nice, sounds like a well rounded approach to table balancing. Respect for the insight, have been watching you guys for about a year now. Love the channel, I’ll simmer down moving forward, mate! 🫡
Ps: the vid caught my eye bc I’m interested in Preston as my newest commander. Quick thoughts on that deck/commander?