Breach of faith is more technical, when you put it all together and learn it, it definitely feels like a 10+ however this chart requires speed and also have some stupid technical side like the last part, so hand movement is also important. It’s funny bc i still have an AA on breach while EX+ on this 😂 I also think this is my favorite 11 so far
Hey, just wanted to point out something quickly. The problem with your judgement is that you're judging based on the older rating, when Tempestissimo was still just 11.5. The problem with that is just one - 10.0s are much easier than, for example, the second bridge, since those that were rather hard, got pushed up to a higher difficulty. So when you're talking about an 11.2 part, in reality, it's rather around 11.3 or 11.4. It was also said that the difficulty is based on the struggle to clear the level, meaning that a longer 11.4 part will also push the level to ~11.3 or 11.4, even if that level has easier parts. You can experience that as well with the re-rate of Fallensquare and NULL APOPHENIA, while those levels are mostly in a range of their previous rating, but got bumped up due to having hard parts for that difficulty. And yes, I agree that Astral Quantization is not a 10 by that sense... because it really shouldn't be.
Tempestissimo was raised to 11.7 (why is it not an 11+)? Odd because most people agree pentiment is slightly harder despite pentiment being an 11.5 Although it might be because pentiment is more consistency based and has a heavy drain on stamina while tempestissimo tests your ability to hit such a high speed more than focusing on your endurance
@@WharQhar Lowiro made a couple questionable rerates, I can only tell you that much. With Modelista being 9+ and 1f1e33 becoming an 11.1, Tempestissimo staying above Pentiment doesn't really surprise me. It was also thought to be around the same difficulty as Testify at one point, so I get the motive. Considering it still not being 11+, I'd guess that's to separate the amounts of skill needed, since there is definitely a high difficulty gap between Tempestissimo and Designant, while not so much between Pentiment and Tempestissimo. I believe 11.7 will be made to 11+, however for that, there needs to be at least one more 11.7 and 11.8, so that the spectrum of 11+ is fully covered and the difficulty of regular 11s can be adjusted.
@@WharQhari think they had to introduce 11+ first, and then rerate some charts to 11+ after the presece is established enough Tempest is DEFINITELY an 11+, but it had to be introduced first (which is understandable, lowiro wants us to think that the first 11+ is in the new pack and not.... in the past)
@@renka-chan9213I think it is a bit odd to think of 11.7 for Tempestissimo. I personally think in terms of pattern recognition, Pentiment and Arcaea Eden look both harder than Tempestissimo. Look at the CN community poll average, it says AE is the hardest among the three. They also said 3?0 boss songs are too conservative. No joke. I think the reason is due to story inflation. Tempestissimo is the final boss close to the god level, therefore Lowiro, instead of using polls, needs to readjust and increase the rating so as to surpass AE and Pentiment. The Lowiro wants to make both 11 and 11+ much easier to obtain. Look at some medium 11s before increased rating, making players having more points when playing them. Also, 11+ in the old days is much harder compared with now as it was thought to be having more multifinger aspects.
![[Arcaea] Lament Rain x Designant.](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/N2A9rX9aAUg/mqdefault.jpg)
Breach of faith is more technical, when you put it all together and learn it, it definitely feels like a 10+ however this chart requires speed and also have some stupid technical side like the last part, so hand movement is also important. It’s funny bc i still have an AA on breach while EX+ on this 😂
I also think this is my favorite 11 so far
Hey, just wanted to point out something quickly. The problem with your judgement is that you're judging based on the older rating, when Tempestissimo was still just 11.5. The problem with that is just one - 10.0s are much easier than, for example, the second bridge, since those that were rather hard, got pushed up to a higher difficulty. So when you're talking about an 11.2 part, in reality, it's rather around 11.3 or 11.4. It was also said that the difficulty is based on the struggle to clear the level, meaning that a longer 11.4 part will also push the level to ~11.3 or 11.4, even if that level has easier parts. You can experience that as well with the re-rate of Fallensquare and NULL APOPHENIA, while those levels are mostly in a range of their previous rating, but got bumped up due to having hard parts for that difficulty. And yes, I agree that Astral Quantization is not a 10 by that sense... because it really shouldn't be.
@@infin1te-official Thanks for pointing that out. I’ll make sure to consider that next time I rate a chart :)
Tempestissimo was raised to 11.7 (why is it not an 11+)?
Odd because most people agree pentiment is slightly harder despite pentiment being an 11.5
Although it might be because pentiment is more consistency based and has a heavy drain on stamina while tempestissimo tests your ability to hit such a high speed more than focusing on your endurance
@@WharQhar Lowiro made a couple questionable rerates, I can only tell you that much. With Modelista being 9+ and 1f1e33 becoming an 11.1, Tempestissimo staying above Pentiment doesn't really surprise me. It was also thought to be around the same difficulty as Testify at one point, so I get the motive. Considering it still not being 11+, I'd guess that's to separate the amounts of skill needed, since there is definitely a high difficulty gap between Tempestissimo and Designant, while not so much between Pentiment and Tempestissimo. I believe 11.7 will be made to 11+, however for that, there needs to be at least one more 11.7 and 11.8, so that the spectrum of 11+ is fully covered and the difficulty of regular 11s can be adjusted.
@@WharQhari think they had to introduce 11+ first, and then rerate some charts to 11+ after the presece is established enough
Tempest is DEFINITELY an 11+, but it had to be introduced first (which is understandable, lowiro wants us to think that the first 11+ is in the new pack and not.... in the past)
@@renka-chan9213I think it is a bit odd to think of 11.7 for Tempestissimo. I personally think in terms of pattern recognition, Pentiment and Arcaea Eden look both harder than Tempestissimo. Look at the CN community poll average, it says AE is the hardest among the three. They also said 3?0 boss songs are too conservative. No joke.
I think the reason is due to story inflation. Tempestissimo is the final boss close to the god level, therefore Lowiro, instead of using polls, needs to readjust and increase the rating so as to surpass AE and Pentiment.
The Lowiro wants to make both 11 and 11+ much easier to obtain. Look at some medium 11s before increased rating, making players having more points when playing them.
Also, 11+ in the old days is much harder compared with now as it was thought to be having more multifinger aspects.
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