One of my fav self developed bike wrenching hacks is stripping the old rubber off lock on's, and replacing it with a push on grip of choice, surprisingly easy and gives you lock on's with pretty much any grip you desire.
OK ... since a few of you lads seem interested in this hack, I should probably give a little more info on it. You cannot do this with every brand of lock on's, as some brands fuse the plastic body to the alloy lock ring (probs ejection moulded together), and you need to be able to remove the lock ring on at least one end to make it work. You need lock on's where the lock ring is clipped into the plastic sleeve somehow. Take your time removing the lock ring/s as you really don't want to mangle or break the plastic parts that hold the lock rings in place. Once you get the old grips off, which will probs involve some Stanley, or craft knife usage, just use soapy water and the spoke technique Doddy showed to get your new grips on. Once they're on, they are going nowhere, so place them carefully before you let the soap dry. Then carefully clip the lock ring/s back on. P.S. Almost forget to say the whole operation is generally easier if you remove the lock ring from only one end, and use the remaining lock ring to secure lock ons to a set of bars, the bars can be on bike or just clamped in a strong vice. Hope this helps peeps
I work at a shop and use an air compressor mostly. But at home I use rubbing alcohol, works every time and just takes a little longer for it to evaporate. Also the silicone grips are my personal fav! Soo comfortable.
Great hacks! I'm an older rider and like 'ergonomic' style grips and, I find that a little bit of movement can make the day less fatiguing on my pre-arthritic hands.
A lot of people prefer grips that have a bit more movement! It's great that there are more grip options around in the market that provide more support for people that struggle with arm pump and grip. 👍
Thanks Doddy, way to teach an old dog new tricks! Grips thought I knew everything but no wired on grips was interesting to hear about. Better get the Tresume in before it sells out! 🤣
A local pump track was demolished years ago because a kid perforated his stomach with his bars because he didn't have barend plugs. Never used anything to help put push on grips on, it takes effort but I find wrestling them also softens them up a bit making them nicer to hold.
I was surprised that bar end plugs with hidden tools where not mentioned. I have seen quite a few tubeless tire repair kits sold as bar end plugs as well as a few other handy tools.
I recently lost a samurai bar end plug on a ride (which was never used and only a few months old), proper gutted they weren't cheap so wont get another set as just bought a new plug tool to store in my bag for 1/6th of the cost.
Hi David! This video was just an explainer on how install grips. Installing special bar end plugs can follow some of the same installation instructions found in this video. However, we'd always recommend checking the instructions provided by the manufacturer of the bar ends you have. Hope this helps! 👍
Hair spray is a good alternative for fitting slide on grips as it acts as a lubricant to slip them on, then dries off like a glue to bind them to the bars.
My dad used to put grips on my dirt bike as a kid. He would use gasoline to slide the grips on and that was it. Never had problems. I’m just talking about the normal everyday rubber only grips. I still use this method for my mtb.
I used 70 percent ethanol and it worked great and the silicone push-on is holding in place at least so far. My hand kept slipping while pushing the new grip on, but using a rag over the grip worked perfectly! Thanks for your helpful vids!
Try installing like golf clubs. Two sided tape and solvent or an air compressor. Also use a hooked blade to remove the old ones so you don’t score the bars.
For getting push-on grips off, I found that one or two large cable ties inserted between the grip and the handlebar will allow enough lubricant in that the grip is pretty easily removed. It is best if the cable ties are inserted about a third of the length of the grip. I have always used rubbing alcohol or denatured alcohol since I have never seen it hurting any of the materials and it evaporates quickly, leaving no residue. It may be helpful to squeeze the grip and twist it several times to get the alcohol to spread under more of the grip before trying to remove it.
It's a video, my hero. Don't just mention it, but show how the Renthal glues are to be handled and what are the results, when trying to remove the grips. How to remove the residue from the bars afterwards or when replacing grips with new ones. With smooth handlebars I never had any issues using push on grips, but on those with a ball blasted finish, water can easily find a way in and they slip. Hairspray doesn't help here.
With push on grips just use the technique for regripping golf clubs, a wrap of double sided tape lubed with white spirit/isopropyl then the grip slid on and left to dry. Won’t go anywhere
Why would you want to use grip glue? What if you have some shitty shifter like shimano that needs removing of the grip to be removed ? I just use 70% ethanol , put it on and when it dries out its going nowhere.
When I worked at a bike shop we used gt-85 or wd40 , believe it or not it slides on easy but then reacts with the rubber and glues the rubber grip to the bar, don’t believe me, try it
Always used the Yeti push ons. Cleaned the bar with rubbing alcohol then heated the grips in boiling water they slipped on easy and once left and fully cooled they always stuck firm and I never had them move or twist.
Hair Spray?? Who know? Thanks for the tip. Great video. I learned a lot. Saw 15 minute on grips and wondered how can Doddy talk about grips for 15 minutes. Know we know the rest of the story.
I use to use hair spray for my mountain bike grips. I can't remember if I was told to do this, or just tried. I haven't bought a pair of lock on grips yet. I need to replace my current ones; I want to buy a set of Ergon's👍
Use IPA and a zip tie. Both for getting it on and off. Better than all of these methods. It will evaporate from the system quickly when installing. Easy
Not from what i know, my dad uses various slippy things depending on what he has on hand, i have seen him use DW40 but i would definitively advice against that last one.
I just fitted some silicone grips using washer fluid, put some in the grip with my thumb blocking the other end and pushed it on. fluid everywhere but worked a treat, no slipping now fitted. Their online guide said IPA but I didn't have that.
I've been using gasoline since my BMX days in the 80's. It kind of melts the inside of the rubber slightly, makes it slide well, leave it a few hours (overnight works) and next day they're practically glued to the bar and will last for a year or two. To remove them, just pry one end with a tyre lever or blunt screwdriver and put in a little bit of water, wiggle the grip and it will slide off.
@@Ferrari255GTO problem with lock on grips is the little bolts cut you if you have larger hands. I cut my thumb open riding dirt jumps. The only lock on grips I liked were the specialized Fuze but they don't make them anymore. The new ones specialized make are short just like any ODI. I prefer longnecks or cult vans over any other grip. If you know of any long lock on grips, let me know the name.
@@burningatthetrailhead superstar components in the UK used to do locking grips in a couple of different lengths and diameters to suit different hand sizes. I don't know if they still do but might be worth checking their website?
Good video, but I feel obliged to share a warning based on my experience with hairspray and handlebar grips. Hairspray has been suggested on at least a couple of motorcycle forums. I tried it on my 1969 Triumph Bonneville 650 grips and it worked really well until one day I got caught in a rain shower. That's when I discovered that when combined with water hairspray effectively turns to the most slippery lubricant known to mankind. Luckily I survived the discovery and the 60-mile ride home with a "zippity-doo-dah" grip, but I'm a-tellin' ya right here -- Hairspray + Handlebar Grips + Water = BEWARE! Your grips be flyin' off the bars! Also, here's a good tip - when you're having a hard time trying to get something with a lot of friction over another thing, don't try to twist it on - give it a good thump with a heavy plastic or rubber mallet - or use something hard and heavy with a "beater-block" as a buffer. A good whack and your grip, footpeg, etc. goes right on.
Use a spoke to remove, once spoke is slid in between bar and grip the use GT85 with straw along side spoke and rotate grip and spoke to with to loosen. To install spray GT85 on inside of the grips and bar for an easy slide on. I done a fair few hundred ands its been consistently good for me and ready to go in a few minutes. Seems weird as a Teflon spray grease, but it dries sticky.
#AskGMBNtech What brand of grips are better for big hands? I'm having a bad time getting numb hands on my bike. I'v tried gloves and different brands without succes....Thanks and keep up the good work!
Look, everyone starts somewhere, and there are plenty of other things that seem far more obvious that people fuck up on a daily basis. Especially slip ons can be stupidly annoyng to mount if you are unsure of how to get them without having them slip afterwards. I'm way more mad about people needing to be told that brakes need to stay away from lube, like ffs toddlers know that stuff
We would disagree. Everyone has to start somewhere, especially if you've never really ridden bikes properly.Also, most people will find this useful as a refresher on some of the best practises when it comes to grips. 👍
One of my fav self developed bike wrenching hacks is stripping the old rubber off lock on's, and replacing it with a push on grip of choice, surprisingly easy and gives you lock on's with pretty much any grip you desire.
Imma write that down
Never wouldve though about it
That's an interesting hack 👍
sorcery 🤯 i'm going to try this today 🙏🏻 thx
OK ... since a few of you lads seem interested in this hack, I should probably give a little more info on it. You cannot do this with every brand of lock on's, as some brands fuse the plastic body to the alloy lock ring (probs ejection moulded together), and you need to be able to remove the lock ring on at least one end to make it work. You need lock on's where the lock ring is clipped into the plastic sleeve somehow.
Take your time removing the lock ring/s as you really don't want to mangle or break the plastic parts that hold the lock rings in place. Once you get the old grips off, which will probs involve some Stanley, or craft knife usage, just use soapy water and the spoke technique Doddy showed to get your new grips on. Once they're on, they are going nowhere, so place them carefully before you let the soap dry. Then carefully clip the lock ring/s back on.
P.S. Almost forget to say the whole operation is generally easier if you remove the lock ring from only one end, and use the remaining lock ring to secure lock ons to a set of bars, the bars can be on bike or just clamped in a strong vice.
Hope this helps peeps
I just tried your advice on the hairspray with the hand grips for my grandkids bike It worked like a charm. Thank you so much.
I work at a shop and use an air compressor mostly. But at home I use rubbing alcohol, works every time and just takes a little longer for it to evaporate.
Also the silicone grips are my personal fav! Soo comfortable.
Good shout! Thanks for the tips! 👍
Great hacks!
I'm an older rider and like 'ergonomic' style grips and, I find that a little bit of movement can make the day less fatiguing on my pre-arthritic hands.
A lot of people prefer grips that have a bit more movement! It's great that there are more grip options around in the market that provide more support for people that struggle with arm pump and grip. 👍
Thank you sir! As a newbie this was very helpful.
Thanks Doddy, way to teach an old dog new tricks! Grips thought I knew everything but no wired on grips was interesting to hear about. Better get the Tresume in before it sells out! 🤣
Haha! Doddy is always full of new hacks! 😅
A local pump track was demolished years ago because a kid perforated his stomach with his bars because he didn't have barend plugs. Never used anything to help put push on grips on, it takes effort but I find wrestling them also softens them up a bit making them nicer to hold.
I was surprised that bar end plugs with hidden tools where not mentioned. I have seen quite a few tubeless tire repair kits sold as bar end plugs as well as a few other handy tools.
I recently lost a samurai bar end plug on a ride (which was never used and only a few months old), proper gutted they weren't cheap so wont get another set as just bought a new plug tool to store in my bag for 1/6th of the cost.
Hi David! This video was just an explainer on how install grips. Installing special bar end plugs can follow some of the same installation instructions found in this video. However, we'd always recommend checking the instructions provided by the manufacturer of the bar ends you have. Hope this helps! 👍
Instead of a spoke I use a plastic takoyaki pick for separating push on grips. Doesn't scratch anything up.
The hairspray part was classic!
Hair spray is a good alternative for fitting slide on grips as it acts as a lubricant to slip them on, then dries off like a glue to bind them to the bars.
Hairspray always does the trick! 👍
That's what we used back in the 70's. Aquanet (States) ; )
A very gripping video.
Good one! 😂
Thanks for the video guys! It's not as easy as I originally thought
My dad used to put grips on my dirt bike as a kid. He would use gasoline to slide the grips on and that was it. Never had problems. I’m just talking about the normal everyday rubber only grips. I still use this method for my mtb.
I used 70 percent ethanol and it worked great and the silicone push-on is holding in place at least so far. My hand kept slipping while pushing the new grip on, but using a rag over the grip worked perfectly! Thanks for your helpful vids!
Try installing like golf clubs. Two sided tape and solvent or an air compressor. Also use a hooked blade to remove the old ones so you don’t score the bars.
Compressor trick worked great for me reinstalling my rubber grips.
I was just looking for new grips yesterday! Great video!
Nice, Cameron! Now you can fit them with ease! 😉
Love the hairspray humour. Made me laugh. Great vid thx.
Plenty of experience with both! 😂 Thanks for the comment, we're glad you enjoyed it!
For getting push-on grips off, I found that one or two large cable ties inserted between the grip and the handlebar will allow enough lubricant in that the grip is pretty easily removed. It is best if the cable ties are inserted about a third of the length of the grip. I have always used rubbing alcohol or denatured alcohol since I have never seen it hurting any of the materials and it evaporates quickly, leaving no residue. It may be helpful to squeeze the grip and twist it several times to get the alcohol to spread under more of the grip before trying to remove it.
It's a video, my hero. Don't just mention it, but show how the Renthal glues are to be handled and what are the results, when trying to remove the grips. How to remove the residue from the bars afterwards or when replacing grips with new ones.
With smooth handlebars I never had any issues using push on grips, but on those with a ball blasted finish, water can easily find a way in and they slip. Hairspray doesn't help here.
Regarding friction grips, water with a little dish washing soap has worked well for me.
Thanks for the help once again
No worries! Thanks for the support! We really appreciate it! 👍
With push on grips just use the technique for regripping golf clubs, a wrap of double sided tape lubed with white spirit/isopropyl then the grip slid on and left to dry. Won’t go anywhere
Why would you want to use grip glue? What if you have some shitty shifter like shimano that needs removing of the grip to be removed ? I just use 70% ethanol , put it on and when it dries out its going nowhere.
When I worked at a bike shop we used gt-85 or wd40 , believe it or not it slides on easy but then reacts with the rubber and glues the rubber grip to the bar, don’t believe me, try it
Still have vintage gt85 in the shop lol
I used to use odi and loved them alot. Until i tried ergon’s factory grips. Love riding them without gloves in the tropical heat here
Hey Evan! Ergon make some great grips. It's great you can ride with them in the heat without gloves on! Some grips can be a bit rubbish for that. 👍
Always used the Yeti push ons. Cleaned the bar with rubbing alcohol then heated the grips in boiling water they slipped on easy and once left and fully cooled they always stuck firm and I never had them move or twist.
Hair Spray?? Who know? Thanks for the tip. Great video. I learned a lot. Saw 15 minute on grips and wondered how can Doddy talk about grips for 15 minutes. Know we know the rest of the story.
Sometimes I put an U. S. nickel/coin inside the grip end to help the slip on grip from pushing through the closed end. ✌👍
I use to use hair spray for my mountain bike grips. I can't remember if I was told to do this, or just tried. I haven't bought a pair of lock on grips yet. I need to replace my current ones; I want to buy a set of Ergon's👍
Rubber grips I just use GT40, wait until dries and it’s solid
just a little water they slide on easy and ive never had one come off yet , plus you can get them off again
Push on grips? Just use a pair of long zip ties under the grip and twist back and forth until near end and pull zip ties through.. not easy but works!
Hairspray ftw.
Use IPA and a zip tie. Both for getting it on and off. Better than all of these methods. It will evaporate from the system quickly when installing. Easy
India pale ale?
@@SomeDudeQC hmm, water content is too high. Use iso propyl alcohol.
For everyone trying to install rubber grips without locks, just use alcohol you used for cleaning hands during corona. Works like a charm
For 30 years I use dish soap during installation of push on and NEVER have any problem with loose grips. Is this really problem?
Not from what i know, my dad uses various slippy things depending on what he has on hand, i have seen him use DW40 but i would definitively advice against that last one.
Cool, just in time as I wanted to change the horrible grips that came with my Rockrider 520.
just borrow your grandmas hairspray and you are good to go
no love for ESI or Wolftooth silicone grips? zero adhesive needed.
I just fitted some silicone grips using washer fluid, put some in the grip with my thumb blocking the other end and pushed it on. fluid everywhere but worked a treat, no slipping now fitted.
Their online guide said IPA but I didn't have that.
I've been using gasoline since my BMX days in the 80's.
It kind of melts the inside of the rubber slightly, makes it slide well, leave it a few hours (overnight works) and next day they're practically glued to the bar and will last for a year or two.
To remove them, just pry one end with a tyre lever or blunt screwdriver and put in a little bit of water, wiggle the grip and it will slide off.
I use WD-40 to get grips on and off; works perfect and doesn't damage grips like Doddy says it does.
My handlebar end grip is built into the handlebars themselves? Don't know how to get new grips on without damaging them
I like to use a talcum powder work the best for me ON or OFF.
What if my single end lockon style grip still moves around is there anything i can do or do i need a dual lock type?
@Doddy. Would you suggest putting assembly paste on lockon grips under the clamping collars? I've always done it. Figured It couldn't hurt.
I use a zip tie to install silicon grip.
I spit in the grip and the saliva quickly dries like glue. I know it sounds nasty but it works
I have Ergo bolt on grips, and my left one always gets lose. Is there a type of grease that has grip in it (Like for seat posts), that can work?
If you're afraid of push ons slipping you can use a basic vulcanizer/patch glue to melt the silicon to the bar. No need for the wire
Or just use lock-ons
I'll give it a try!
@@Ferrari255GTO problem with lock on grips is the little bolts cut you if you have larger hands. I cut my thumb open riding dirt jumps. The only lock on grips I liked were the specialized Fuze but they don't make them anymore. The new ones specialized make are short just like any ODI. I prefer longnecks or cult vans over any other grip. If you know of any long lock on grips, let me know the name.
@@burningatthetrailhead superstar components in the UK used to do locking grips in a couple of different lengths and diameters to suit different hand sizes. I don't know if they still do but might be worth checking their website?
@@williamfowler5260 thanks for the reply. I'll check them out now.
Good video, but I feel obliged to share a warning based on my experience with hairspray and handlebar grips.
Hairspray has been suggested on at least a couple of motorcycle forums. I tried it on my 1969 Triumph Bonneville 650 grips and it worked really well until one day I got caught in a rain shower. That's when I discovered that when combined with water hairspray effectively turns to the most slippery lubricant known to mankind. Luckily I survived the discovery and the 60-mile ride home with a "zippity-doo-dah" grip, but I'm a-tellin' ya right here -- Hairspray + Handlebar Grips + Water = BEWARE! Your grips be flyin' off the bars!
Also, here's a good tip - when you're having a hard time trying to get something with a lot of friction over another thing, don't try to twist it on - give it a good thump with a heavy plastic or rubber mallet - or use something hard and heavy with a "beater-block" as a buffer. A good whack and your grip, footpeg, etc. goes right on.
Use a spoke to remove, once spoke is slid in between bar and grip the use GT85 with straw along side spoke and rotate grip and spoke to with to loosen. To install spray GT85 on inside of the grips and bar for an easy slide on. I done a fair few hundred ands its been consistently good for me and ready to go in a few minutes. Seems weird as a Teflon spray grease, but it dries sticky.
DMR Deathgrips for me....
#AskGMBNtech What brand of grips are better for big hands? I'm having a bad time getting numb hands on my bike. I'v tried gloves and different brands without succes....Thanks and keep up the good work!
PS: 2xl gloves don't fit me.....😅
PS: 2xl gloves don't fit me.....😅
TF2 and a screwdriver. Over a decade and no problems!!
Wifes hairspray. Job done
Carb cleaner works as good or better than hairspray but unless youre a motorcyle repairer as well as a mountain bike rider, you likely wont have any.
Nice
In our next video we will showing you how to wipe the grime off your hands after working on your bike.
Make sure to buy the most expensive mtb specific latex gloves!!!
Children have died from severe internal injuries caused by falling onto handlebar ends.
Ok but how do you uninstall factory grips on a bike
Can of WD-40 with straw... Push straw into grip and spray in sections....will eventually slide right off
After watching you wire on grips, I got lost in existential thought for the rest of the video.
A 15:31 minute video on how to install grips on a bicycle ..... ridiculous 😂😂
simple just add "WATER"
Imo push grips are worse overall, lock on grips look better and are easyer to swap.
Deodorant?
Those wires looks nasty.....
you must be silly to chose glue grips over sqruing grips
Yewwwww
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2nd 🎉
If you need a tutorial for putting on grips you shouldn't be working on your bike
If you want working on your bike you need start from basics.
Look, everyone starts somewhere, and there are plenty of other things that seem far more obvious that people fuck up on a daily basis. Especially slip ons can be stupidly annoyng to mount if you are unsure of how to get them without having them slip afterwards. I'm way more mad about people needing to be told that brakes need to stay away from lube, like ffs toddlers know that stuff
We would disagree. Everyone has to start somewhere, especially if you've never really ridden bikes properly.Also, most people will find this useful as a refresher on some of the best practises when it comes to grips. 👍
@@gmbntech well if you agreed then you'd basically be dissing your own video so of course you'd say that
Ratio'd @@smashyrashy