I work for NS. I remember when this happened. The first local’s engine number was one digit off from the second local. That is why the intermodal train departed. They thought they saw the one they were meeting.
Liked and subscribed. You do such a thorough and awesome job on your videos. You leave no stone unturned. And you are GREAT and have a meticulous focus on the details of each event you investigate and share on you tube. Thank you. These accidents are barely acknowledged and should, very much be. So, thank you for doing this :)
Awesome video!! I always love the information and detail you put into these, and i always get a smile on my face when a new one is posted! :D Keep up the great work!
The dispatcher wasnt wrong, I run this line, we used to get a do not depart block on our warrants and there were 4 spaces for separate trains, the crew was negligent and thats what caused the wreck.....everyone isn't made to run trains on the road but the major carriers seem to disagree......
Joshua Jarrell I was a railroader most of my career, a signal man for years and then a conductor for a few railroads east and west coast. All the rail fans and train buffs think they know what goes on. They have no clue. It is extremely difficult to hear the dispatchers, yardmasters, work crews etc on the radios. There is so much noise from the locos, the horns, static and distractions. I'm surprised there are not more accidents. Almost without question, most accidents are the fault of the crew. Run thru switches, missed signal, Mostly from fatigue. Hours of service mean nothing. Most of the time we were zombies. Usually from sitting at a triple red in a siding and not moving for 5 hours, without any explanation, when no other traffic has been around, especially when on shared track. NS was notorious for this practice. I worked for CP in NY and PA and many a shift would be sitting on a loaded coal train 7500 ft long at reds for hours. It would really suck the life out of the engineer and conductor. That needs to change.
You NS crews need to stay away from RR marker 390 in Sylacauga (35150) Alabama. There is a huge sinkhole under your line signals at the Crooked Creek Road RR crossing. Upper management knows about the problem but keeps the RR line open due to necessary track use. Y’all are going to wind up killed and possibly hurt us locals due to the dangerous chemicals that line/route carries. If y’all value your lives and ours (us locals) y’all will refuse to traverse these tracks here in Sylacauga Alabama. Stay safe my friends if you won’t do it for yourselves will you do it for us locals?
I cannot fathom this collision, the excuses banded about for not being able to count to two... mind boggling. Humans need to be able to expect other humans to count to at least 10 or this whole thing just ain't gonna work :P
Some audio suggests: 1) It sounds like you're too close to the mic or the levels are too high. Breath and sound levels are causing clipping. 2) Raising your voice for drama effect forces people to lower the volume to avoid being yelled at. Sometimes your voice is too low, sometimes it's too loud. 3) In general, your audio on this and other even newer videos is uneven. The background music levels seem to high compared to the voicing levels. Again, forcing listeners to raise and lower the volume in various spots of one video. Are you featuring music or telling a story? If you're telling a story, the volume of the storyline should remain fixed and higher than of the background music. I watched a few of you videos. They are informative. They would be better if you improved on your audio techniques. The video editing is far better that the audio.
Thunderbolt in 2018: “Norfolk Southern is known to have a pretty decent safety record.” Everybody else after March 2023 (Plus John Cena, Peaking through the wall): “Are you sure about that?”
Well happy super duper late birthday! Am i the only one who reads the description??? Just found this channel and im subbed for life. Hope that most recent video isnt gonna kill my hopes of future content....
I turned 20 when you posted this. How did I not see this? Then again, how did I not hear of the wreck when it happened? Also, my condolences to the trains and witnesses.
Mermaid Mabel It is at the beginning. I don’t remember the name of the song, but it’s the one that plays while you’re in the house in the ruins. Edit: It’s called “home”.
Agreed! the soundtrack is too loud at times which coincides with the narrator talking in a whisper. Get rid of the background music all together and concentrate on the facts of the incident without the histrionics!
This is so cool to see. I was actually working for a contractor that works with the Railroad during this time and actually worked in the area. I saw the area after most of the initial cleanup was done
Very well done, good execution and professional. Impressive. Like the former CofG mainline between Atlanta and Macon, this line used to have automatic block signals and possibly CTC. NS tore them out about 20 (+/-) years ago. THAT would have prevented this accident. Like the old TT&TO system, the radio borne verbal DTC system is still a Train Order. It's a crap shoot when dispatching mainline trains in dark territory. Critical things can be overlooked and forgotten with no technology backing up the trains' traffic (reduced costs and operating ratios jeopardizing lives and property). I would think that it's no question that hazmat moves on this line. I know the railroads have been criticized in the press about replacing all the signals in ABS & CTC territory as they upgrade to PTC. Unnecessary, and costly, say the experts. They really should consider restoring two mile ABS blocks where there are local traffic and mainline through freights using the line.
I know this is 3 years late but, as of now, 02/02/2022. When in dark territory(171 territory), Box 6 on a track authority which is for trains that have been told to wait for a train to pass, has now been prohibited in dark territory. Can only be used in 251, 261, and 271 territory.
It amazes me that countries take so long to learn from each other. The US mandated Janney couplers 100 years before they were common here in the UK, with a massive effect on safety. But token block working (which has been mandatory on single track lines in the UK since 1899) would have prevented this collision. Weird.
Talk about a train disaster! I’m glad neither trains were hauling hazardous materials unlike the January 2005 Graniteville Train Crash where NS Trains P22 and 192 head on collide with 192 hauling Tankers filled with Chorine Gas, Sodium Hydroxide and Cresol. That would have been a huge disaster and would scare me a lot.
Even when it is dispatcher error, they usually get ONLY a few days Out Of Service while train crews get far more. Witnessed this first hand when recrewing a train with a track authority violation the dispatcher caused.
In Divine, TX in 1996 2 UP freights collided head-on. The wreck was the worst in Texas for the UP. In 2001 I believe, a UP freight rear-ended another freight near Jacksonville, TX. I was in college in Jacksonville and got pictures of the damaged cars and the SD9043MACs. The 2nd unit was damaged due to the force of impact and the cars colliding into it. Do you have or know of any documentaries on the Divine crash?
Great effort here in dramatizing the video but ... your sound quality basically sucks - with noticable pops and LOW VOLUME throughput. Before you publish to TH-cam - check your volume levels, sir. Audio is a very important component in videos have a huge impact, especially if attempting some semblance of drama.
Just typical YT noob mistakes, i noticed this vids audio was worst than some of the previous ones i just binged for the last hour+, so i think hes learning.
Cell phone use has been banned train locomotive cabs since the 2008 Chatsworth metrolink train crash. That was the caused of the 2008 Chatsworth metrolink train crash. The driver of that train was using cellphone while the train was in motion and he did not have the time to look at the signal ahead.
may I reccomend a new mic? I bought one called the floureon condenser mic on amazon for 22$ and it has great sound quality and will reduce the loud popping
It might be some undertaking, but I believe heavily used rail lines sould all be two lines. Not a single line. If you have noticed, most of the incidents on here have been on single lines.
How about the derailment of Williamsport, PA? I remember a train hopped the rails and tipped into a field due to a minor track flaw, still not fixed to this day, but the track is used a lot.
While i was at my uncles, he had his camper on a site on the river, and a train came by and actually a car jumped the rail and almost tipped. Also my uncle saw the train tip.
Rest In Peace headphone users when he says anyword containing the letter P in it
Just imagine how much NOISE that wreck made!
I work for NS. I remember when this happened. The first local’s engine number was one digit off from the second local. That is why the intermodal train departed. They thought they saw the one they were meeting.
All that because one engineer disobeyed orders
And one dispatcher was 2 lazy to make 2 meet orders and instead shoved the 2 into one to save time.
What a Bitch. *Forgive my language.
@@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren I dont know where you got your info but you are very wrong.
Was it fact or fiction?
Too many arm chair, want to be RR employees here.
Some guy: just enjoying a nice old walk in the woods
Trains: LOOKOUT
Some guy: wait what holy crap!
I just love how at sometimes he raises his voice at the perfect moments
You're great at doing the narrations for the films
Thanks
Liked and subscribed. You do such a thorough and awesome job on your videos. You leave no stone unturned. And you are GREAT and have a meticulous focus on the details of each event you investigate and share on you tube. Thank you. These accidents are barely acknowledged and should, very much be. So, thank you for doing this :)
Amazing that all of them survived
Oof
The crew?
A re-upload with reasonable volume level would be appreciated by many, I'm sure! Thanks, though, for an otherwise nicely done vid!
Awesome video!! I always love the information and detail you put into these, and i always get a smile on my face when a new one is posted! :D
Keep up the great work!
Excuse me for asking this again, but can you please do the 1986 Great Dismal Swamp Accident?
Peter Rosenquist holy cow yes
The dispatcher wasnt wrong, I run this line, we used to get a do not depart block on our warrants and there were 4 spaces for separate trains, the crew was negligent and thats what caused the wreck.....everyone isn't made to run trains on the road but the major carriers seem to disagree......
Joshua Jarrell I was a railroader most of my career, a signal man for years and then a conductor for a few railroads east and west coast. All the rail fans and train buffs think they know what goes on. They have no clue. It is extremely difficult to hear the dispatchers, yardmasters, work crews etc on the radios. There is so much noise from the locos, the horns, static and distractions. I'm surprised there are not more accidents. Almost without question, most accidents are the fault of the crew. Run thru switches, missed signal, Mostly from fatigue. Hours of service mean nothing. Most of the time we were zombies. Usually from sitting at a triple red in a siding and not moving for 5 hours, without any explanation, when no other traffic has been around, especially when on shared track. NS was notorious for this practice. I worked for CP in NY and PA and many a shift would be sitting on a loaded coal train 7500 ft long at reds for hours. It would really suck the life out of the engineer and conductor. That needs to change.
The real question is how were they going 50 mph in a work between shouldn’t that be restricted speed
You NS crews need to stay away from RR marker 390 in Sylacauga (35150) Alabama. There is a huge sinkhole under your line signals at the Crooked Creek Road RR crossing. Upper management knows about the problem but keeps the RR line open due to necessary track use. Y’all are going to wind up killed and possibly hurt us locals due to the dangerous chemicals that line/route carries. If y’all value your lives and ours (us locals) y’all will refuse to traverse these tracks here in Sylacauga Alabama. Stay safe my friends if you won’t do it for yourselves will you do it for us locals?
@@stripervince1 wow, wat an essay
@@stripervince1 btw not judging
2:25 i'm scared :(
As dark as it was I couldn't stop replaying that sequence. It's both overdramatic and intense but epic at the same time
Thunderbolt 1000 Siren Productions you make great video and I find them to be educational.
Umm I don’t understand
Same
Painting 4 hundredth like thank me later
You are very good at introducing, describing and explaining train crashes in such small time
I cannot fathom this collision, the excuses banded about for not being able to count to two... mind boggling. Humans need to be able to expect other humans to count to at least 10 or this whole thing just ain't gonna work :P
Some audio suggests:
1) It sounds like you're too close to the mic or the levels are too high. Breath and sound levels are causing clipping.
2) Raising your voice for drama effect forces people to lower the volume to avoid being yelled at. Sometimes your voice is too low, sometimes it's too loud.
3) In general, your audio on this and other even newer videos is uneven. The background music levels seem to high compared to the voicing levels. Again, forcing listeners to raise and lower the volume in various spots of one video. Are you featuring music or telling a story? If you're telling a story, the volume of the storyline should remain fixed and higher than of the background music.
I watched a few of you videos. They are informative. They would be better if you improved on your audio techniques. The video editing is far better that the audio.
It’s amazing to think, this video is 7 years old. If you are reading this in 2022.
oh finnaly another documentary and happy birthday christina!
I love these series of stories about Train derailments. It's nice to know
Lol, I like how when the trains are about to collide you start to raise your voice
great video bro
"Since NS is known to have a pretty decent safety record"
That's a laugh. There's a reason why there's so many Norfolk Southern memes.
At least we have 8132 still around
Just a miracle that everyone survived
Really thats insane
Thunderbolt in 2018: “Norfolk Southern is known to have a pretty decent safety record.”
Everybody else after March 2023 (Plus John Cena, Peaking through the wall): “Are you sure about that?”
I spoke way too soon in that video...
Many locomotives have been accidents and they sometimes survive but the rest always have to get scrapped
Ive seen both 1637 and 9796 in my local yard like 2 weeks ago. They didn’t look new or serviced but its still crazy they were involved
0:02 wow, great music for a train crash XDD love the vids, keep it up
This was a fantastic video, great job. Love the content on your channel!
Lumber for my new garage....if I lived near this.Glad no one died.I love trains and your vids.....keep em coming
Rest In Peace Norfolk Southern # 1637, 9796.
Well happy super duper late birthday!
Am i the only one who reads the description???
Just found this channel and im subbed for life.
Hope that most recent video isnt gonna kill my hopes of future content....
I turned 20 when you posted this. How did I not see this? Then again, how did I not hear of the wreck when it happened? Also, my condolences to the trains and witnesses.
I like how you used the music from Tugs (from Munitions) when the trains crashed
I like it that you put undertale music
So do I.
It isn't undertale?
Mermaid Mabel Its the theme that plays when you are in Toriels home.
Search up Home - Undertale OST
I do too
Mermaid Mabel
It is at the beginning. I don’t remember the name of the song, but it’s the one that plays while you’re in the house in the ruins.
Edit: It’s called “home”.
The first one I saw AND I did a class presentation on this. Good Job! Love to see it remade
Nice I love your documentary videos about train reks.
thank you
Oh same here and I like it too
Trains have always fascinated me.
It's called train WRECK
R.I.P awesome engines
I love that spot in reading there I railfan there all the time
I got the 8132 trailing 3rd on 63V. 1229 was leading while 1832 (Horseless) was 2nd. Really Rare!!
I was working the ER for the first time when I was told they were flying in folks from this train wreck. It was a mess..
2018 was a great year for TH-cam, last year of good content from most people.
1. Work on mic work
2. Move back from mic
3. Talk alil LOUDER
werecat podguski Yup.
He was spiting on it
@@carnivaltriumphhh3604 somtimes you gotta spit on it to let it slide in easier.
Yes!
Agreed! the soundtrack is too loud at times which coincides with the narrator talking in a whisper. Get rid of the background music all together and concentrate on the facts of the incident without the histrionics!
This is so cool to see. I was actually working for a contractor that works with the Railroad during this time and actually worked in the area. I saw the area after most of the initial cleanup was done
Epic video dude! Well done, I really enjoyed!
Aww how old is your sister... I wish her a great happy birthday
I love the video but had to stop watching because of the loud "P" sounds in the mic popping my speakers all to hell.
Tomorrow is the 1 year anniversary for this video! I remember this so well.
Very well done, good execution and professional. Impressive. Like the former CofG mainline between Atlanta and Macon, this line used to have automatic block signals and possibly CTC. NS tore them out about 20 (+/-) years ago. THAT would have prevented this accident. Like the old TT&TO system, the radio borne verbal DTC system is still a Train Order. It's a crap shoot when dispatching mainline trains in dark territory. Critical things can be overlooked and forgotten with no technology backing up the trains' traffic (reduced costs and operating ratios jeopardizing lives and property).
I would think that it's no question that hazmat moves on this line. I know the railroads have been criticized in the press about replacing all the signals in ABS & CTC territory as they upgrade to PTC. Unnecessary, and costly, say the experts. They really should consider restoring two mile ABS blocks where there are local traffic and mainline through freights using the line.
Welcome back to “Why Is This In My Recommended” season 30 episode 26
Tried to listen to the start, ended up crying
I know this is 3 years late but, as of now, 02/02/2022. When in dark territory(171 territory), Box 6 on a track authority which is for trains that have been told to wait for a train to pass, has now been prohibited in dark territory. Can only be used in 251, 261, and 271 territory.
Couldn't stop replaying collision, yet I see no video featuring the collision.
Yep...
felix felix he was proud of his editing of the collision you fucking dumbasses
@@SoonerStateSirens1
Well, it sucked. Like everything else on this channel.
cool vids!!, but you have to work on your sound recording
Nice video, i liked it. Keep up the good work!
I love train crashes and runaways like the big biyoiu and CRAZY 8s
By that you mean learning about them?
?
The BNSF Yard Derailment?
It amazes me that countries take so long to learn from each other. The US mandated Janney couplers 100 years before they were common here in the UK, with a massive effect on safety. But token block working (which has been mandatory on single track lines in the UK since 1899) would have prevented this collision. Weird.
But I can’t remember what year happened but I do know it was back in the 1900s and I believe that one of the engineers were the blame for the crash
This man’s microphone pops more than bubble wrap when my cat is clawing it
Talk about a train disaster! I’m glad neither trains were hauling hazardous materials unlike the January 2005 Graniteville Train Crash where NS Trains P22 and 192 head on collide with 192 hauling Tankers filled with Chorine Gas, Sodium Hydroxide and Cresol. That would have been a huge disaster and would scare me a lot.
man im lucky because i saw 9796 in person
CEOs of all of the major RRs give eachother high fives and pop corks.
One step closer to crewless cabs.
2:20 Damn, this turns intense real quick.
The intro was pretty much the best ever. Its 2022 now and unfortunately technology with dispatch will probably fail. Very sad
Even when it is dispatcher error, they usually get ONLY a few days Out Of Service while train crews get far more. Witnessed this first hand when recrewing a train with a track authority violation the dispatcher caused.
Sad to see a NS White hat scraped. :(
The way you yelled at 2:20 is very intense. I felt like you were blaming me for the collision.
I feel it is necessary to announce HOW COOL HIS NEW PROFILE PIC IS there is a little want a hat
In Divine, TX in 1996 2 UP freights collided head-on. The wreck was the worst in Texas for the UP. In 2001 I believe, a UP freight rear-ended another freight near Jacksonville, TX. I was in college in Jacksonville and got pictures of the damaged cars and the SD9043MACs. The 2nd unit was damaged due to the force of impact and the cars colliding into it.
Do you have or know of any documentaries on the Divine crash?
Thunderbolt for your sake ya better be doing these and the CNO&TP 2018 wreck
I remember seeing this in the car passing through sandersville
at least nobody was hurt, but the drivers and stuff where :(
Great effort here in dramatizing the video but ... your sound quality basically sucks - with noticable pops and LOW VOLUME throughput. Before you publish to TH-cam - check your volume levels, sir. Audio is a very important component in videos have a huge impact, especially if attempting some semblance of drama.
Just typical YT noob mistakes, i noticed this vids audio was worst than some of the previous ones i just binged for the last hour+, so i think hes learning.
#stophating
@@Free_Krazy he's not a noob, it's not his fault he ACCEDENTALY spits on the microphone and stuff
@@sub2pewdiepienowunsubt-ser119
It isn't hate you fucking moronic goon.
Cell phone use has been banned train locomotive cabs since the 2008 Chatsworth metrolink train crash.
That was the caused of the 2008 Chatsworth metrolink train crash. The driver of that train was using cellphone while the train was in motion and he did not have the time to look at the signal ahead.
may I reccomend a new mic? I bought one called the floureon condenser mic on amazon for 22$ and it has great sound quality and will reduce the loud popping
*$22, not 22$. *recommend. I reccomend that you learn how to spell before offering advice.
@@clvrswine *recommend
Wreck of Southern Railway train #97.
Thank God that this Derailment ain't as bad as the one in Grantieville,SC! That was also a major NTSB Investigation too!
If the engineer was paying attention this would’ve happen
It might be some undertaking, but I believe heavily used rail lines sould all be two lines. Not a single line. If you have noticed, most of the incidents on here have been on single lines.
Texting and driving. Dude, your driving a TRAIN!
No personal cell phones BUT a company cell phone should be allowed for business!
I love trains but lately I've been having nightmares about train derailments while I'm standing right next to the track
I love your choice of music lmao
I love seeing those train wrecks thunderbolt 1000 Siren productions
Great video man! Another sd40-2 sent to the scrap yard 😢
R.I.P NS 1637 and NS 9796 also this was 9 years ago
I like the way you say Grange and Wadley. Lol
I think you need to either back away from your mic, use a filter, or put it off to the side.. You're spitting on it too much..
npsit1 I think your a picky bastard who needs to fuck off.
chill dude, he's just giving his opinion
Wow. A fragile anime fan. What a fucking surprise.
He is right about the microphone. The P sounds in the mike almost blew my speakers or ears.
gmboy559 Turn your volume down you fucking idiot.
Damn 6 years later
NS 8132's numberboard was normal like all of NS's ES44ACs. But now, it's in nega-color
i.e the number 8132 is white and the background color is black.
I like how there's undertale music in the backround lol
How about the derailment of Williamsport, PA? I remember a train hopped the rails and tipped into a field due to a minor track flaw, still not fixed to this day, but the track is used a lot.
Interesting
While i was at my uncles, he had his camper on a site on the river, and a train came by and actually a car jumped the rail and almost tipped.
Also my uncle saw the train tip.
2:19 ITS GETTING INTENSE
Happy Late Birthday Christina!!!
I the videos i wacht , i learned more than in scool
@County For Questionism-Ball maybe this guy is like five
By bailed out, do you mean they jumped off the train...?
Same meaning
almost 5 years have passed an this wreck is still a bad one...
Do you have a video like this on those BNSF trains that crashed. The ones we see in all the yt train crash videos...the ones who hit head on....
I would love love love to watch this video, but I've turn my volume all the way up, I still cannot hear you my bro