George Harrison talked about the Clapton wedding in Radio One interview in the mid eighties when he was prompting the Traveling Wilburys and the Beatles at the Beeb was also on at the same time. What he said was that he and Paul queuing for the buffet and the band started on the stage and he turned to Paul and mentioned that there was no bass player and the he agreed to o as long as George came as well.
I'm glad you made this addendum piece John, and thanks for making the effort. Regarding Doggett's remarks about the Beatle's "responsibilities" towards the people of Bangladesh, I'm with you in believing that the four of them have contributed so much of a joyous and positive nature to countless people's lives that the debt owed cannot possibly be repaid to them.
Not to sound like a conspiracy theorist but it wouldn't surprise me to find out that John WAS invited but Yoko intercepted the invitation and binned it before it got to John. It certainly wouldn't have been the first time she prevented communication between John and the others.
How about he never returned to Britain even after getting his Green Card in 75 so if he never came back to see his relatives the idea of him coming for a wedding is laughable.
According to Eric Clapton'a autobiography, Eric did invite John, but John claimed to have never received the invite and said he would have attended.. Clapton blamed himself for not following thru on the invite that could have led to a Beatles reunion
I read one account of the Beatles meeting in the mid- or late 70's that was supposed to happen at some fancy restaurant. Paul, George, and Ringo were sitting around a table waiting for John to show up. At some point a balloon was delivered (blue if I recall correctly) with a message from John attached reading "Listen to this ballon", which infuriated the spiritual "quiet" Beatle George who immediately phoned John, cursing and swearing and demanding his presence. Of course, the meeting dissolved and made for a sad yet hilarious missed reunion. It does sound like something John would do.
That was on December 20,1974 at the Plaza Hotel. The Beatles were signing the "break-up" papers as it were...Ringo had signed in London...Paul & George were at the Plaza...and Lennon was supposed to come over...but didn't! He did send a balloon....and later stated that the "stars weren't right!" In truth...because he was in the US...he would have had to a pay a rather large tax according to the agreement. He met Paul later and McCartney told him,"Don't worry..we'll work something out!" Lennon finally did sign the the papers at Disney World in Florida on December 27, 1974. On December 20, 1974...after the last show of George Harrison's 1974 tour...John...Paul...& George met up at the Club Hippopotamus at 405 East Sixty Second St.(near First Ave). This is the last KNOWN time that the 3 Beatles met up after the split on April 10, 1970.
@@beatlejim64 So they still met up later on the same day/night of the balloon incident and George cursing him down the phone??? Is that correct? I'm really curious , never heard of that meeting. Wow! Shame there's no photos.
I find it hard to believe that invitations were sent to Paul. George and Ringo but not John. I think Yoko intercepted the invitation so John wouldn't know!
An unknown meeting which was mentioned on the Nothing is Real podcast is the one John and Paul got backstage at the Oscars when Live and Let Die got a nomination. No photographer around though. Nice videos John. Cheers.
@@roywatson8133 You know, John Lennon wanted to perform at George Harrison's "Concert For Bangladesh" but George vetoed the idea because John wanted his no talent cretinous wife Yoko Ono to perform with him. George wasn't a "Beatle" anymore and didn't have to tolerate John's imposing her on him and Rock Royalty!
@@raulmacias1311 Recently, a couple of photos of George with John and Yoko have surfaced (taken shortly before the Bangladesh concerts). Along with the photos, it was stated that John was fine with going on the stage at George's concert without Yoko (after all, it was George's concert), but Yoko insisted on being a part of the concert. When George told her no, she got mad, and her and John got into an argument about it.
Not one of the significant Beatle reunions, but the Take it Away video does being a smile to my face, seeing Paul, Ringo AND George Martin performing together is pretty unique
It say an awful lot about Lennon and indeed the strong emotional tie between the Beatles that after all the insults between him and Paul, and all the legal/Klein problems he would even THINK about inviting Paul to play at that 72 concert!
Not sure if this qualifies as a near miss, but what about the concerts for Kampuchea in 1979, where Paul was a key player. The rumors about a Beatles reunion there were apparently just that. But how close did George actually come to participating?
I hope not! John treated George's compositions with indifference. John rarely, if at all, participated on George's Beatles recordings! Please read any books on Beatles recording sessions and see for yourself. In May Pang's book, "Loving John", Miss Pang describes a violent outburst by George towards John during Harrison's 1974 U.S Tour. John and May Pang stopped by the Plaza Hotel after George's gig in Washington DC. The tour was not going well. George was suffering from a severe sore throat and was having difficulty singing. There were bad reviews in the press. From May Pang's book "Loving John" ~ Then George's anger really burst forth. "Where were you when I needed you?!" he snapped. "I did everything you said. But you weren't there", he repeated. "You always knew how to reach me, " John would reply evenly to each of these outbursts. There was no doubt in my mind, watching those two, that George's anger with John had been accumulating for years. It was exactly the kind of situation that John usually ran from. But I could see in that moment that he loved George enough to remain calm and still George drilled away at him. George said that repeatedly in the past he had sung what John wanted him to sing, said what John wanted him to say. Because John wanted it, George had gone along with the decision to go with Allen Klein. In the nearly four years since, John had virtually ignored him, a fact that pained George deeply. George's voice grew even more harsh as he blasted John for his sudden appearance, as if out of nowhere, to offer an evening's worth of help. Yet again George said furiously, "I did everything you said, but you weren't there." Suddenly he leveled his gaze at John. "You know, John," he snarled, "I want to see your eyes." John was wearing sunglasses. He reached up and quickly took them off and put on his regular glasses. He was willing to do anything to pacify George. But the gesture was not enough. It looked as though George was going to slap John. "I still can't see your eyes." Suddenly he reached over, yanked John's glasses from his face, and dashed them to the floor. His face was a mask of fury and contempt; I had never seen an angrier man. George's anger even paralyzed John. I knew how panicky John became when he could not see. I expected him to jump up and hit George. I was terrified that George might be satisfied only by a fistfight. Yet, miraculously, John stayed calm. There was a long silence. Then George returned to the basic theme of his anger, but I could see the worst moment had passed. Finally, well after midnight, it all wound down, John and I were bone weary, and we took a suite right there in the Plaza. When we were alone John told me, "I saw George goin' through pain and I know what pain is about." So I let him do it. I'll go out and help him or whatever it is he wants me to do . If he wants me to go out on stage, I will." John looked at me. I was crying. "You two are like brothers, " I said. "I can't stand it when people like you who love each other so much can't get along." The next day we saw George, and everything was fine. As soon as George saw John, he hugged and kissed him. "Please forgive me, " he said. "I wasn't feeling well last night. I didn't mean to get upset." It was as if the previous night had not occurred. Yet again I realized how unpredictable they all were! There were issues that remained and sadly were never reconciled between George and John. I love George Harrison and I always empathized with his plight being in a band with such talented songwriters as John Lennon and Paul McCartney. My eyes well up with tears when I read how George is pleading with John for an explanation as to why he abandoned him in May Pang's book. George was overshadowed and also belittled by John and Paul over the course of his time as a member of The Beatles that just kills me! Didn't John and Paul realize that George Harrison was an extraordinary man with not only musical talent but a wisdom way beyond his years? Didn't they see that they both were fortunate to have met and been in a band with George Harrison? In retrospect, I just don't believe so. You know, this encounter between George and John would have never taken place if John and Yoko hadn't separated during that period in 1974. Yoko Ono exerted an extraordinary control over John! I've always believed Yoko emasculated John after she got him under her spell. Gone was the confident John Lennon I grew up admiring from 1962~1966. With John and Yoko's separation in 1974, it seemed as though we got John back for a very brief time with the release of "Walls And Bridges" in '74. John actually did some deejaying on our local AM Radio station ~ 93 KHJ BOSS RADIO in '74! What a brief, breath of fresh air that time was without Yoko Ono around!
Hi, I do not want to bash Yoko, but every time there could have been a kind of reunion, she is involved and took some action to make a reunion impossible, because she knew John would listen to "Mother" as he called her.
A Toot and a Snore is a tough listen, but there is that point in one of the takes of Lucille when it seems to start to come together and John and Paul's voices are in perfect harmony and so we get to hear that blend one final time....
Hah! interesting...I also feel the same about A toot and a snore, its a tough listen and Lucille is the closest we get to anything listenable...but did their voices blend? I don't think so! infact that was striking to be how at odds their voices sounded...but hey it must have been quite a night!
John, I reckon if John Lennon had been alive the Beatles would have reunited for Live Aid. Lennon would have loved Bob's attitude. "You're going on at 10, you're doing 20minutes, here's your set list, don't run over or we'll pull the plug😁. Cheers again...
Agree. Of course, while we'll never know, I'm pretty convinced of that myself. By '85, there'd surely have been enough of a rapprochement between the four; and with that level of outreach - mirroring the One World '67 event... Mind you, like the chill between Daltrey and Townsend then, and between Waters and Gilmour at Live Aid 2, a similar one on stage between Lennon and Macca wouldn't have surprised.
Mark: are you sure? Are you aware of the Apple boardroom meeting at the Dorchester Hotel of December 1983? It was less than amicable, so they might not have been on better terms by 1985. But if John was still alive, who knows?
Chas Hodges (of Chas and Dave fame) tells on a podcast his side of the story of the Clapton get together as such :- There were kids milling about a piano and making a general racket so he got up to control the kids a bit and started to knock out some basic boogie-woogie to calm the kids down only to notice (I think from memory?) George get up and start playing along with him this in turn led Paul and Ringo up and so it began.... He also mentions the regret of not having any photographic evidence of the event but tantalisingly tells that he contacted Olivia after the event who happily promised to send him a home made video that one of them had recorded only then to back track on this promise and he never received anything ....he speculated that the non-show of the recording was ordered “from on up high” , so if he’s correct it does exist but is currently not for public viewing .
Great addendum to part 1. I agree that there may have been other unpublicized meetings that took place. I have a feeling that once Paul and Ringo are gone, there will be a lot of things revealed or released that are not public knowledge today. Maybe wishful thinking on my part but it does sound like something they would do.
Will The Beatles be remembered in 2064 or 2050? Their musical/artistic influence certainly! The Rolling Stones? Eric Clapton? Their children and grandchildren? The son of Beatles{ELO and the powerful Jeff Lynne}! George Martin! The appearance on Ed Sullivan and "The Tribute" in 1969/70?
I think you hit the nail on the head. The Beatles only shared what they wanted to share. They always did these interviews to promote their solo stuff. By the time they split they could handle the press very well. Plus it didn't matter what they said. There was no benefit to share the truth. IMO there isn't much concerning the time frame in between the release of Abbey Road and Paul announcing the split. It's know that they did talk about a follow up to Abbey Road. Paul is holding stuff up and Ringo just goes along with what Paul wants. Why not at this point.
I’ve never heard of Lennon inviting Paul to appear on stage at the One to One! Fascinating, what’s the source on that? Also, Phillip Norman recalls Lennon and McCartney going to a posh NYC restaurant and being allowed to get a pizza delivered when they didn’t like any of the dishes. I don’t remember the name of the place but I seem to recall it being post 76. Fab videos!
They were all selfish...and rich...Paul and Ringo have given the fans alot. It takes some humbleness and love to give back to thr fans...Beatles forever.
James McCartney talks about being held as a baby by a bearded man in a white room (Dakota) seeing as Paul’s son was born 76. This is contrary to Paul saying the last time he ever spoke or met John was 4 years before he died.
Yes, Carl Perkins tells the story when he was recording with Paul. Paul told Carl that when they left the Dakota after watching SNL, it was the last time they saw each other in person.
john and paul in the studio together something could have happend then ono was back on the scene and that was the end of that trust ono to ruin everthing
Hi John, I am new to your channel. Regarding possible Beatles reunion I thought John Lennon had signed an affidavit stating that at some future point The Beatles would perform together again. This was when The Beatles took legal action against the play Beatlemania. Back in 1974 John discussed the anthology documentary on NBC television.. It was a project in the making when he was alive. Jack Douglas said on American masters that Paul and John had agreed to play on Ringo album in January 1981. He also said if George found out he would want to join the recording. Sorry this comment is a little long. Kind regards Rod
Hi John, According to Chris O'Dell, all the Beatles were at Friar Park's opening party in early 1970... It is weird I have never read of such an occurrence, except for her memoir. Do you know anything about it?
Sounds to me like the person who handled the invitations just simply screwed up by not inviting John. I guess that’s what happens when you’re a superstar. Someone else is responsible for managing every detail of your affairs without your input. Big oversight there obviously.
It's interesting, John, to think of the post-Beatles relationships all four had with each other, to just look at who helped who on each others solo albums. J P & G were all willing to help Ringo on his solo albums. Ringo mostly helped George, only helping Paul on maybe 2-3 of his solo albums, and only helping John on his first (POB). So I think the friction, if any, was between J P & G. George never helped Paul, likewise, Paul never helped George. I'm not counting George's All Those Years Ago single, which was a tribute to John. Likewise, John never helped George (as far as solo recording sessions). George only helped John on his Imagine album. John and Paul also never helped each other on each's solo recordings. I would think, from pure business reasons, that all four would have to meet together. I know all four were against the movie Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (with the Bee Gees and Peter Frampton). All four were also against the movies Birth Of The Beatles (which had Pete Best as a consultant) and Beatlemania.
They were also against the Red and Blue albums. So glad EMI prevailed as 1967-1970 was the very first Beatles album I ever bought (as a kid in 1975)-I loved it!
Sometimes I just give up, give in and say 'it's all past history now', 'they never got together, never can, ended badly, sadly'. It does hurt and more so because just a years later it became easy for supergroup members to go solo and still at intervals get back together for new recordings.
I'm probably like most here-feeling as though I've come across virtually all Beatles stories over the years. But I've never heard that bit about John asking Paul to join him on stage at MSG. That's interesting. I'm curious to know the source.
No if Paul would have showed up,at Lennons concert, it would have probably changed the 70s music? Showing good will among them, maybe new collaboration?
Hi John - I hope this doesn’t appear rude... I have been enjoying your reviews for the last few weeks and have watched quite a few. I am an ex Liverpudlian living in Australia. I was wondering - who are you? Are you just a mega fan or is the connection a little deeper. I really enjoy the way you have presented the Beatles work both as band and solo guys and I’m just curious - who are you? Keep up the good work... R
@@johnheaton5667 thanks John - either way I live the way you present the material and your opinions and have been watching your older videos regularly. Really enjoy them and you have had me going back over my collection and revisiting it.
Good stuff, John! I looked over your video collection, and I don’t recall seeing anything like this: Put yourself in George Martin’s shoes. You feel a need to let it be known that some tracks are not worthy of being on a Beatles album, so you put your foot down and let the boys know. But they still end up on albums. Does ‘John as George M’ have a top (or bottom) ten clunker list? Can he even come up with ten? Or maybe *gasp* more?
Premature death has a way of putting the desires of groups of people and those silly things that seemed so important at the time into their proper perspective. Unfortunately, it also puts reality back into it's proper place even though everyone involved forgot to consider the distinct possibility of their own mortality. The reality which had always been Beatles was always going to die, I think everyone just forgot how easily, tragically, and permanent it was always going to be. In this case, it turned out that John Lennon and the most successful band in history died on that night in New York City. It never mattered who would be first, just when circumstance reminded everyone of their own mortality. You life is not your own. only wh
Mr heaton..john sir, is there any truth that all 4 Beatles met at Carl perkins birthday party on the queen mary, in long beach,in 1973, & all 4 Beatles jammed???😁💗❤💖
@@johnheaton5667, It,apparently, was quoted from a guest at the party. I read it in a book years ago...only i can't remember what book it was!!!!!❤💓💖😉👍👍👍👍
What's a near -miss? Is that when you almost meet a big star? Or you almost don't meet them because you didn't want to yet you did somehow run into them with your motorcar? 0r in a hallway? I never quite understood that hyphenated word, near -miss. "Officer, yes I did hit his car with my car, but, in my defence, I almost missed him. I came so close to missing him that I hit him. Would you almost not give me a citation, Sir,?"
@@adamcollins915 My recollection is that, in the book of John's final Playboy interviews, he says that the last time he saw Paul was the famous night they watched SNL together at the Dakota in April 1976.
John treated the Plastic One band poorly, so I can see EC’s reluctance having John around with his screeching wife. Especially if one is strung out on heroin.....
I am still convinced that Yoko broke up The Beatles. Paul, George and Ringo always denied it. But even they don't know. And John would not have become the apparent psycho he became. With no heroin, the others would have asked him nicely to get Yoko out of the studio. With heroin they knew not to ask because he would fly into a rage.
I think The Beatles had gone as far as any group could. Their musical journey remains unparalleled.No other band has ever covered the creative range achieved in under eight years as a recording unit, or shaped the age in which they existed.
@@mikesaunders4775 There is a TH-cam video somewhere in which George talks about making another album (after Abby Road). Of course Ringo would have been on board. And I believe Paul would have been all-in. Between heroin and Yoko and bed-ins and other nonsense, John was totally distracted. He broke up The Beatles, not Paul (and I love John's music, but it's a fact).
@@rubygreta1 you forgot Alan Kline in your summing up. He did a number on John & that put a wedge between the Group that ended in that Bitter court case . With what George said about another album & the tape ( sent to Ringo in Hospital ) that’s surfaced, it does look like there was more to come .
Marco Zucchi Gee wonder how that happened? Like the time Paul called for John during the Double Fantasy sessions and somehow that call never made it to John. What a coincidence.😡
George Harrison talked about the Clapton wedding in Radio One interview in the mid eighties when he was prompting the Traveling Wilburys and the Beatles at the Beeb was also on at the same time. What he said was that he and Paul queuing for the buffet and the band started on the stage and he turned to Paul and mentioned that there was no bass player and the he agreed to o as long as George came as well.
I like your Beatles reports. Very calm and to the point. Almost BBC radio in nature and I like that.
I'm glad you made this addendum piece John, and thanks for making the effort. Regarding Doggett's remarks about the Beatle's "responsibilities" towards the people of Bangladesh, I'm with you in believing that the four of them have contributed so much of a joyous and positive nature to countless people's lives that the debt owed cannot possibly be repaid to them.
Not to sound like a conspiracy theorist but it wouldn't surprise me to find out that John WAS invited but Yoko intercepted the invitation and binned it before it got to John. It certainly wouldn't have been the first time she prevented communication between John and the others.
I know the truth and yes you are right......I was that envelope.........
@cliff not that old snore
How about he never returned to Britain even after getting his Green Card in 75 so if he never came back to see his relatives the idea of him coming for a wedding is laughable.
According to Eric Clapton'a autobiography, Eric did invite John, but John claimed to have never received the invite and said he would have attended.. Clapton blamed himself for not following thru on the invite that could have led to a Beatles reunion
Agree. Yoko was a total bastard. A controlling bitch
I read one account of the Beatles meeting in the mid- or late 70's that was supposed to happen at some fancy restaurant. Paul, George, and Ringo were sitting around a table waiting for John to show up. At some point a balloon was delivered (blue if I recall correctly) with a message from John attached reading "Listen to this ballon", which infuriated the spiritual "quiet" Beatle George who immediately phoned John, cursing and swearing and demanding his presence. Of course, the meeting dissolved and made for a sad yet hilarious missed reunion. It does sound like something John would do.
That was on December 20,1974 at the Plaza Hotel. The Beatles were signing the "break-up" papers as it were...Ringo had signed in London...Paul & George were at the Plaza...and Lennon was supposed to come over...but didn't! He did send a balloon....and later stated that the "stars weren't right!" In truth...because he was in the US...he would have had to a pay a rather large tax according to the agreement. He met Paul later and McCartney told him,"Don't worry..we'll work something out!" Lennon finally did sign the the papers at Disney World in Florida on December 27, 1974. On December 20, 1974...after the last show of George Harrison's 1974 tour...John...Paul...& George met up at the Club Hippopotamus at 405 East Sixty Second St.(near First Ave). This is the last KNOWN time that the 3 Beatles met up after the split on April 10, 1970.
@@beatlejim64 Thanks for that insight and correction. :-)
@@beatlejim64 So they still met up later on the same day/night of the balloon incident and George cursing him down the phone??? Is that correct? I'm really curious , never heard of that meeting. Wow! Shame there's no photos.
I find it hard to believe that invitations were sent to Paul. George and Ringo but not John. I think Yoko intercepted the invitation so John wouldn't know!
I appreciate you John. Hope you are and your life is well.
An unknown meeting which was mentioned on the Nothing is Real podcast is the one John and Paul got backstage at the Oscars when Live and Let Die got a nomination. No photographer around though.
Nice videos John. Cheers.
John...Forgetting your Beatles knowledge....congrats on always coming off as a class individual...a good father and a man of sensibility and reason
I know why Eric Clapton didn't invite John Lennon. Clapton didn't want Yoko Ono around to ruin things!
Yoko wants a mic
thats more than likey true
@@sirronnitram8937 eeee eeeeeeee eeeee eeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaa
@@roywatson8133 You know, John Lennon wanted to perform at George Harrison's "Concert For Bangladesh" but George vetoed the idea because John wanted his no talent cretinous wife Yoko Ono to perform with him.
George wasn't a "Beatle" anymore and didn't have to tolerate John's imposing her on him and Rock Royalty!
@@raulmacias1311 Recently, a couple of photos of George with John and Yoko have surfaced (taken shortly before the Bangladesh concerts). Along with the photos, it was stated that John was fine with going on the stage at George's concert without Yoko (after all, it was George's concert), but Yoko insisted on being a part of the concert. When George told her no, she got mad, and her and John got into an argument about it.
Not one of the significant Beatle reunions, but the Take it Away video does being a smile to my face, seeing Paul, Ringo AND George Martin performing together is pretty unique
It say an awful lot about Lennon and indeed the strong emotional tie between the Beatles that after all the insults between him and Paul, and all the legal/Klein problems he would even THINK about inviting Paul to play at that 72 concert!
Not sure if this qualifies as a near miss, but what about the concerts for Kampuchea in 1979, where Paul was a key player. The rumors about a Beatles reunion there were apparently just that. But how close did George actually come to participating?
I wonder of John met George in an afterlife. I hope so.
I hope not!
John treated George's compositions with indifference. John rarely, if at all, participated on George's Beatles recordings! Please read any books on Beatles recording sessions and see for yourself.
In May Pang's book, "Loving John", Miss Pang describes a violent outburst by George towards John during Harrison's 1974 U.S Tour.
John and May Pang stopped by the Plaza Hotel after George's gig in Washington DC. The tour was not going well. George was suffering from a severe sore throat and was having difficulty singing. There were bad reviews in the press.
From May Pang's book "Loving John" ~
Then George's anger really burst forth. "Where were you when I needed you?!" he snapped. "I did everything you said. But you weren't there", he repeated. "You always knew how to reach me, " John would reply evenly to each of these outbursts.
There was no doubt in my mind, watching those two, that George's anger with John had been accumulating for years. It was exactly the kind of situation that John usually ran from. But I could see in that moment that he loved George enough to remain calm and still George drilled away at him.
George said that repeatedly in the past he had sung what John wanted him to sing, said what John wanted him to say. Because John wanted it, George had gone along with the decision to go with Allen Klein. In the nearly four years since, John had virtually ignored him, a fact that pained George deeply.
George's voice grew even more harsh as he blasted John for his sudden appearance, as if out of nowhere, to offer an evening's worth of help.
Yet again George said furiously, "I did everything you said, but you weren't there."
Suddenly he leveled his gaze at John. "You know, John," he snarled, "I want to see your eyes."
John was wearing sunglasses. He reached up and quickly took them off and put on his regular glasses. He was willing to do anything to pacify George. But the gesture was not enough. It looked as though George was going to slap John.
"I still can't see your eyes." Suddenly he reached over, yanked John's glasses from his face, and dashed them to the floor. His face was a mask of fury and contempt; I had never seen an angrier man. George's anger even paralyzed John. I knew how panicky John became when he could not see. I expected him to jump up and hit George. I was terrified that George might be satisfied only by a fistfight.
Yet, miraculously, John stayed calm. There was a long silence. Then George returned to the basic theme of his anger, but I could see the worst moment had passed.
Finally, well after midnight, it all wound down, John and I were bone weary, and we took a suite right there in the Plaza. When we were alone John told me, "I saw George goin' through pain and I know what pain is about." So I let him do it. I'll go out and help him or whatever it is he wants me to do . If he wants me to go out on stage, I will."
John looked at me. I was crying.
"You two are like brothers, " I said. "I can't stand it when people like you who love each other so much can't get along."
The next day we saw George, and everything was fine. As soon as George saw John, he hugged and kissed him. "Please forgive me, " he said. "I wasn't feeling well last night. I didn't mean to get upset." It was as if the previous night had not occurred. Yet again I realized how unpredictable they all were!
There were issues that remained and sadly were never reconciled between George and John.
I love George Harrison and I always empathized with his plight being in a band with such talented songwriters as John Lennon and Paul McCartney. My eyes well up with tears when I read how George is pleading with John for an explanation as to why he abandoned him in May Pang's book.
George was overshadowed and also belittled by John and Paul over the course of his time as a member of The Beatles that just kills me!
Didn't John and Paul realize that George Harrison was an extraordinary man with not only musical talent but a wisdom way beyond his years? Didn't they see that they both were fortunate to have met and been in a band with George Harrison?
In retrospect, I just don't believe so.
You know, this encounter between George and John would have never taken place if John and Yoko hadn't separated during that period in 1974. Yoko Ono exerted an extraordinary control over John!
I've always believed Yoko emasculated John after she got him under her spell. Gone was the confident John Lennon I grew up admiring from 1962~1966.
With John and Yoko's separation in 1974, it seemed as though we got John back for a very brief time with the release of "Walls And Bridges" in '74.
John actually did some deejaying on our local AM Radio station ~ 93 KHJ BOSS RADIO in '74!
What a brief, breath of fresh air that time was without Yoko Ono around!
@@raulmacias1311 It's a good job I never mentioned the dirty fork.
U less they were believers in Jesus when they died they both went to he!!.
@@jimbuck2996 John became a believer in 1977.
He’s now in Paradise.
@@raulmacias1311 I listened to that 1974 broadcast on 93 KHJ it was on a Friday morning.
George invited john to the bangladesh concert , john agreed but only if he performs with yoko on stage , george refused that.
Hi,
I do not want to bash Yoko, but every time there could have been a kind of reunion, she is involved and took some action to make a reunion impossible, because she knew John would listen to "Mother" as he called her.
A Toot and a Snore is a tough listen, but there is that point in one of the takes of Lucille when it seems to start to come together and John and Paul's voices are in perfect harmony and so we get to hear that blend one final time....
Hah! interesting...I also feel the same about A toot and a snore, its a tough listen and Lucille is the closest we get to anything listenable...but did their voices blend? I don't think so! infact that was striking to be how at odds their voices sounded...but hey it must have been quite a night!
John, I reckon if John Lennon had been alive the Beatles would have reunited for Live Aid. Lennon would have loved Bob's attitude. "You're going on at 10, you're doing 20minutes, here's your set list, don't run over or we'll pull the plug😁. Cheers again...
Agree. Of course, while we'll never know, I'm pretty convinced of that myself. By '85, there'd surely have been enough of a rapprochement between the four; and with that level of outreach - mirroring the One World '67 event... Mind you, like the chill between Daltrey and Townsend then, and between Waters and Gilmour at Live Aid 2, a similar one on stage between Lennon and Macca wouldn't have surprised.
Mark: are you sure? Are you aware of the Apple boardroom meeting at the Dorchester Hotel of December 1983? It was less than amicable, so they might not have been on better terms by 1985. But if John was still alive, who knows?
Chas Hodges (of Chas and Dave fame) tells on a podcast his side of the story of the Clapton get together as such :-
There were kids milling about a piano and making a general racket so he got up to control the kids a bit and started to knock out some basic boogie-woogie to calm the kids down only to notice (I think from memory?) George get up and start playing along with him this in turn led Paul and Ringo up and so it began....
He also mentions the regret of not having any photographic evidence of the event but tantalisingly tells that he contacted Olivia after the event who happily promised to send him a home made video that one of them had recorded only then to back track on this promise and he never received anything ....he speculated that the non-show of the recording was ordered “from on up high” , so if he’s correct it does exist but is currently not for public viewing .
Great addendum to part 1. I agree that there may have been other unpublicized meetings that took place. I have a feeling that once Paul and Ringo are gone, there will be a lot of things revealed or released that are not public knowledge today. Maybe wishful thinking on my part but it does sound like something they would do.
Will The Beatles be remembered in 2064 or 2050? Their musical/artistic influence certainly! The Rolling Stones? Eric Clapton? Their children and grandchildren? The son of Beatles{ELO and the powerful Jeff Lynne}! George Martin! The appearance on Ed Sullivan and "The Tribute" in 1969/70?
I think you hit the nail on the head. The Beatles only shared what they wanted to share. They always did these interviews to promote their solo stuff. By the time they split they could handle the press very well. Plus it didn't matter what they said. There was no benefit to share the truth. IMO there isn't much concerning the time frame in between the release of Abbey Road and Paul announcing the split. It's know that they did talk about a follow up to Abbey Road. Paul is holding stuff up and Ringo just goes along with what Paul wants. Why not at this point.
The closest Beatles reunion including John was on Ringo's 1973 Album Ringo. last time John and Paul were together was at Harry Nillson's party in 1974
Thank you for your research
I’ve never heard of Lennon inviting Paul to appear on stage at the One to One! Fascinating, what’s the source on that?
Also, Phillip Norman recalls Lennon and McCartney going to a posh NYC restaurant and being allowed to get a pizza delivered when they didn’t like any of the dishes. I don’t remember the name of the place but I seem to recall it being post 76.
Fab videos!
it’s in the keith badman book....not entirely sure its true to be honest...who knows? they had at least partislly reconciled by then so it’s possible
John Heaton I just read it on the Beatles bible too, albeit without a source. Fascinating...
They were all selfish...and rich...Paul and Ringo have given the fans alot. It takes some humbleness and love to give back to thr fans...Beatles forever.
James McCartney talks about being held as a baby by a bearded man in a white room (Dakota) seeing as Paul’s son was born 76. This is contrary to Paul saying the last time he ever spoke or met John was 4 years before he died.
Yes, Carl Perkins tells the story when he was recording with Paul. Paul told Carl that when they left the Dakota after watching SNL, it was the last time they saw each other in person.
john and paul in the studio together something could have happend then ono was back on the scene and that was the end of that trust ono to ruin everthing
Hi John, I am new to your channel. Regarding possible Beatles reunion I thought John Lennon had signed an affidavit stating that at some future point The Beatles would perform together again. This was when The Beatles took legal action against the play Beatlemania. Back in 1974 John discussed the anthology documentary on NBC television.. It was a project in the making when he was alive. Jack Douglas said on American masters that Paul and John had agreed to play on Ringo album in January 1981. He also said if George found out he would want to join the recording. Sorry this comment is a little long. Kind regards Rod
thanks John
I could sit and talk to you for hours I love this stuff ..."The Beatles in India"I just saw can't wait to hear what you think of that.
Hey John great video! Are you going to do one on all the Lennon birthday releases?
Hi John,
According to Chris O'Dell, all the Beatles were at Friar Park's opening party in early 1970... It is weird I have never read of such an occurrence, except for her memoir. Do you know anything about it?
yes i have Chris’ book but this particularly meeting does not seem very likely...i can see the three of them there perhaps but not Psul
@@johnheaton5667 that makes sense. On the other hand, it was early 1970, right before the big battle began, though.
Hey john....did you watch Willie Nelson's sons singing "I'm just watching the wheel go round and round"...they did a great job!
Sounds to me like the person who handled the invitations just simply screwed up by not inviting John. I guess that’s what happens when you’re a superstar. Someone else is responsible for managing every detail of your affairs without your input. Big oversight there obviously.
Michael H. Klaus? It was Clapton’s wedding.
It's interesting, John, to think of the post-Beatles relationships all four had with each other, to just look at who helped who on each others solo albums. J P & G were all willing to help Ringo on his solo albums. Ringo mostly helped George, only helping Paul on maybe 2-3 of his solo albums, and only helping John on his first (POB). So I think the friction, if any, was between J P & G. George never helped Paul, likewise, Paul never helped George. I'm not counting George's All Those Years Ago single, which was a tribute to John. Likewise, John never helped George (as far as solo recording sessions). George only helped John on his Imagine album. John and Paul also never helped each other on each's solo recordings. I would think, from pure business reasons, that all four would have to meet together. I know all four were against the movie Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (with the Bee Gees and Peter Frampton). All four were also against the movies Birth Of The Beatles (which had Pete Best as a consultant) and Beatlemania.
I'm pretty sure John did play on All Things Must Pass but is uncredited. Don't know which songs.
They were also against the Red and Blue albums. So glad EMI prevailed as 1967-1970 was the very first Beatles album I ever bought (as a kid in 1975)-I loved it!
😆 That is one thing i would not want any credit for.
Sometimes I just give up, give in and say 'it's all past history now', 'they never got together, never can, ended badly, sadly'. It does hurt and more so because just a years later it became easy for supergroup members to go solo and still at intervals get back together for new recordings.
I'm probably like most here-feeling as though I've come across virtually all Beatles stories over the years. But I've never heard that bit about John asking Paul to join him on stage at MSG. That's interesting. I'm curious to know the source.
No if Paul would have showed up,at Lennons concert, it would have probably changed the 70s music? Showing good will among them, maybe new collaboration?
Hi John - I hope this doesn’t appear rude... I have been enjoying your reviews for the last few weeks and have watched quite a few. I am an ex Liverpudlian living in Australia. I was wondering - who are you? Are you just a mega fan or is the connection a little deeper. I really enjoy the way you have presented the Beatles work both as band and solo guys and I’m just curious - who are you?
Keep up the good work... R
just a mega fan...since i was 14 in 1978!
@@johnheaton5667 thanks John - either way I live the way you present the material and your opinions and have been watching your older videos regularly. Really enjoy them and you have had me going back over my collection and revisiting it.
Can you add ONE MORE COMMERICIAL in this video? geez.......
Good stuff, John!
I looked over your video collection, and I don’t recall seeing anything like this:
Put yourself in George Martin’s shoes. You feel a need to let it be known that some tracks are not worthy of being on a Beatles album, so you put your foot down and let the boys know. But they still end up on albums. Does ‘John as George M’ have a top (or bottom) ten clunker list? Can he even come up with ten? Or maybe *gasp* more?
Premature death has a way of putting the desires of groups of people and those silly things that seemed so important at the time into their proper perspective. Unfortunately, it also puts reality back into it's proper place even though everyone involved forgot to consider the distinct possibility of their own mortality. The reality which had always been Beatles was always going to die, I think everyone just forgot how easily,
tragically, and permanent it was always going to be. In this case, it turned out that John Lennon and the most successful band in history died on that night in New
York City. It never mattered who would be first, just when circumstance reminded everyone of their own mortality. You life is not your own.
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Ughhhh, John would have been involved with the Venus and Mars album. Damnit Yoko!!!
Mr heaton..john sir, is there any truth that all 4 Beatles met at Carl perkins birthday party on the queen mary, in long beach,in 1973, & all 4 Beatles jammed???😁💗❤💖
never heard that...is it in any of the books?
@@johnheaton5667, It,apparently, was quoted from a guest at the party. I read it in a book years ago...only i can't remember what book it was!!!!!❤💓💖😉👍👍👍👍
John did you rush off at the end becoz The 'Umbrella Academy' was on NETFLIX ?! - ;)
mr heaton do this reviews and muso's like a profesor of music.
Imagine.....if they did
What's a near -miss?
Is that when you almost meet a big star? Or you almost don't meet them because you didn't want to yet you did somehow run into them with your motorcar? 0r in a hallway?
I never quite understood that hyphenated word, near -miss.
"Officer, yes I did hit his car with my car, but, in my defence, I almost missed him. I came so close to missing him that I hit him. Would you almost not give me a citation, Sir,?"
While I agree the bootleg of John and Paul is a musical mess, its significance goes beyond that. It's basically a piece of history.
You didn't mention the 1980 meeting between John & Paul. Rumours are it resulted in Paul's drugs bust.
i don’k think they met....paul was in new york and phoned up but the meeting didn’t happen....mentioned that the previous vid
@@johnheaton5667 I'll have to check Fred Seaman's book. Thought Paul & Linda turned up at the Dakota.
@@adamcollins915 My recollection is that, in the book of John's final Playboy interviews, he says that the last time he saw Paul was the famous night they watched SNL together at the Dakota in April 1976.
John treated the Plastic One band poorly, so I can see EC’s reluctance having John around with his screeching wife.
Especially if one is strung out on heroin.....
think EC had a bigger drug/alcohol problem than JL over the years....think the truth is they simply forgot to invite them
@@johnheaton5667 I doubt that Yoko had put heroin away at that point. Perhaps by now, but not by that point.
@@fredapeeples6619 True, in the late 70's, she had developed a small addiction of her own by then.
I am still convinced that Yoko broke up The Beatles. Paul, George and Ringo always denied it. But even they don't know. And John would not have become the apparent psycho he became. With no heroin, the others would have asked him nicely to get Yoko out of the studio. With heroin they knew not to ask because he would fly into a rage.
Pointless to blame Yoko, at some point they'd have gone their separate ways regardless of her.
@@davidgraham8299 Yoko’s presence didn’t help , did it.
I think The Beatles had gone as far as any group could. Their musical journey remains unparalleled.No other band has ever covered the creative range achieved in under eight years as a recording unit, or shaped the age in which they existed.
@@mikesaunders4775 There is a TH-cam video somewhere in which George talks about making another album (after Abby Road). Of course Ringo would have been on board. And I believe Paul would have been all-in. Between heroin and Yoko and bed-ins and other nonsense, John was totally distracted. He broke up The Beatles, not Paul (and I love John's music, but it's a fact).
@@rubygreta1 you forgot Alan Kline in your summing up. He did a number on John & that put a wedge between the Group that ended in that Bitter court case . With what George said about another album & the tape ( sent to Ringo in Hospital ) that’s surfaced, it does look like there was more to come .
Clapton & Patti never invited John for one simple reason..... Yoko!! Nobody wanted to be around her!! Sad of course but that was just the way of it.
All that talking shite and there just happens to be a add looking you in the face the whole time
Eric tred to call John to invite him but he couldn't reach him on the phone.
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Gee wonder how that happened? Like the time Paul called for John during the Double Fantasy sessions and somehow that call never made it to John. What a coincidence.😡