A very pragmatic and scientific approach to viniculture. Looking forward to seeing further results. Your interviews with innovative and experimental growers are very insightful and would love to see more. Thank you very much.
The comprehensive conversation of this video is what modern gardening videos shooed be. 10/10. I kinda think they should have an aerator in their worm bin, amazing stuff.
Thanks for this video...we're in the second year of establishing our small production vineyard and weeds are such a pain to navigate. I hate the work and expense involved with glyphosate (even ignoring any questions of safety), and would love to have an alternative, but for establishment of young vines there really doesn't seem to be an economical alternative. Hoping to go with a cover crop mix long-term though as it aligns with our goals better. There are challenges even to that, though, so we'll see how it goes. Weed control and soil regeneration is so complicated.
Brilliant vid mate. Great work Lockie Just finished my first year in my vineyard. And have been researching hard to figure out the best option for managing the top section of soil under my vines. Couple of these tick a massive box especially the straw as my water usage is limited .
Hi Tim, I imagine straw will give a quick start to under vine cover and then simply add the necessary grass seeds. Grass / weeds love to grow in straw. Future follow up episodes will be great to watch. Cheers Steve
Excellent investigation into alternate methods for maintaining and improving fertility. I see Laciey's findings being applicable to other row systems like espalier fruit trees etc. Keep them coming Tim.
Thanks Tim, I got a lot out of this post. It’s pointed me in a different direction for under my finger limes on my finger lime farm which I have just started a few years ago. Cheers mate, and keep up the good work. It’s helped me a lot as a new comer to the fruit growing industry!
What a brilliant vid tim, very in depth into what works and what does not. Loved it as it explained a lot for me in my farm practice. Keep up the great videos thank you.
What an impressive young man Lockie is. He couldn't be 30. New steward of the environment. You know a bloke I know with an ugly yellow boat. We have been talking about drifting down to Tabrook from Nagambie. For too long. Several of the winery's in that region have boat docks upon the river, including Tabrook You're welcome to join us, at least that will get the job done. As always, my best regards. Phil,
Gee, it would be good to keep following this one up. Data talks! One thought, what if the compost was spread in the intercrop row and let the fungi move the nutrients to the vines?
Thanks so much Tim, I really enjoyed that and I’m looking into using that at my place. I’ll do a bit more research to make sure that it works in the granite belt and also what would be the right species of grass to be using. Love your work mate.
Very interesting, Tim. It's always fascinating when a real world side-by-side study can be carried out to work out what's best for the crop and soil combined. I was wondering if chickens (or other fowl, seeing as they'd be too small to nibble on vines, unlike ruminants) could be run down the aisles to further cut down on the need for fertiliser - but suspect that the guys at Tahbilk have already considered that and decided it wouldn't work for them and they'd be better off just sticking to bringing in chicken manure to add to the compost. Is this the case, Tim?
Have a rather large new vineyard as one of my neighbours (first vintage coming up) and they're doing similar trials: one part has been mulched with straw, another has grasses growing, another has grasses growing then sprayed and another part has mowing. Over winter they bring in sheep to graze. I haven't seen the viticulturist for about a year, but keen to have a chat about how it's all going and what they're up to.
They should switch to a side discharge slasher and use the inter row grass clippings to mulch under the vines. Suppressing the grasses, but still getting the organic matter. As for multi species plantings and increased yield, 35 years ago I did a trial for my Yr 12 Ag assignment (with the NSW Dept of Ag) that clearly showed the benefits of multi species plantings for winter fodder crops, so its hardly a new discovery.
Gday Tim great video, very informative and the question follow- Lachlan said the straw mulch gave a 20% increase in productivity yield was this over one year or the three year study ? - just wondering if they have test rows of different straw types ? I do believe that the mixed grass cover will show increased yields above the 20% but it will take a longer period. Thanks again for your time regards David.
G’day David. I believe they are a couple years into the straw. The straw is all the same (off their cropping paddocks). Interestingly the yield increase is not necessarily a good thing because winegrowers chase flavour and colour, yield can impact these qualities.
Would the multi species ground cover method work for new fruit trees or better to keep to say a mulch until pretty well established before moving to this method? Thanks loving your videos learning heaps of valuable knowledge
@@FarmLearningTim thanks appreciate. I have about a 40cm radius around them with sugarcane mulch at the moment just wondering if this might be a lower maintenance option down the track. Again thanks for your content I am just getting into building my paradise and your knowledge has been very helpful.
Finally! You took my advice and upgraded to a new hat..... lookin'mighty sexy there fella! 😉🤟. Very interesting video, will be great to see the results in a few years.👍
Why plant grass under the vines as it's a C4 photosynthesis plant? I'd try a mix of other species, them being C3 will not be so over competitive. Controlling those unwanted plants will become a lot easier once the mRNA sprays at long last come in, but thats another story that will turn agriculture on it's head.
Grasses shade soil and store carbon. Easy to manage. Hosts for bacteria and fungi. Some grasses are C4 (some other growers are playing with native C4 species) but C3 stop growing during peak water needs of the crop. Become a mulch and compliment the growing cycle. Wine grapes are one of the last crops on the planet whose major quality measure is flavour profiles. Over cropping reduces this. Grasses don’t lead to that problem like straw. Grasses are a great host for beneficial spiders and mites. This reduces pests like LBAM. Lots of good reasons to grow grasses under vineyards and very few bad ones. Cheers.
Nice to see someone actually putting data behind mulitspecies affect
That was a brilliant interview Tim. Great information, which can be adopted on a smaller level in any backyard. Well done.
A very pragmatic and scientific approach to viniculture. Looking forward to seeing further results. Your interviews with innovative and experimental growers are very insightful and would love to see more. Thank you very much.
The comprehensive conversation of this video is what modern gardening videos shooed be. 10/10. I kinda think they should have an aerator in their worm bin, amazing stuff.
Thanks for this video...we're in the second year of establishing our small production vineyard and weeds are such a pain to navigate. I hate the work and expense involved with glyphosate (even ignoring any questions of safety), and would love to have an alternative, but for establishment of young vines there really doesn't seem to be an economical alternative. Hoping to go with a cover crop mix long-term though as it aligns with our goals better. There are challenges even to that, though, so we'll see how it goes. Weed control and soil regeneration is so complicated.
Awesome discussion
Brilliant vid mate. Great work Lockie
Just finished my first year in my vineyard. And have been researching hard to figure out the best option for managing the top section of soil under my vines. Couple of these tick a massive box especially the straw as my water usage is limited .
Hi Tim, I imagine straw will give a quick start to under vine cover and then simply add the necessary grass seeds. Grass / weeds love to grow in straw. Future follow up episodes will be great to watch. Cheers Steve
Excellent investigation into alternate methods for maintaining and improving fertility. I see Laciey's findings being applicable to other row systems like espalier fruit trees etc. Keep them coming Tim.
Thanks Tim, I got a lot out of this post. It’s pointed me in a different direction for under my finger limes on my finger lime farm which I have just started a few years ago. Cheers mate, and keep up the good work. It’s helped me a lot as a new comer to the fruit growing industry!
Interesting video, lots a ideas, most farmers are so caught up trying to make every cent they can that they rarely diverse from the normal approaches.
What a brilliant vid tim, very in depth into what works and what does not. Loved it as it explained a lot for me in my farm practice. Keep up the great videos thank you.
What an impressive young man Lockie is. He couldn't be 30. New steward of the environment. You know a bloke
I know with an ugly yellow boat. We have been talking about drifting down to Tabrook from Nagambie. For too long. Several of the winery's in that region have boat docks upon the river, including Tabrook You're welcome to join us, at least that will get the job done.
As always, my best regards. Phil,
I've done that trip in kayaks, from Mitchelton to Tahbilk and back, with a bottle of Shiraz between my feet..... Love that part of the river.
Thanks Tim, a really really interest video, I had to watch it parts to absorb and make notes, Cheers keep them coming
Loving the new hat very Fancy !! Another great video, thanks Tim
I’m actually a bit self conscious of the hat…. But the other ones starting to smell…..
Looks like Tim has a new hat lol great vid as always lots of information 😊😊
Gee, it would be good to keep following this one up. Data talks! One thought, what if the compost was spread in the intercrop row and let the fungi move the nutrients to the vines?
They’re broad spreading it next, so yeah. Similar idea.
Thanks so much Tim, I really enjoyed that and I’m looking into using that at my place. I’ll do a bit more research to make sure that it works in the granite belt and also what would be the right species of grass to be using. Love your work mate.
Very interesting, Tim. It's always fascinating when a real world side-by-side study can be carried out to work out what's best for the crop and soil combined. I was wondering if chickens (or other fowl, seeing as they'd be too small to nibble on vines, unlike ruminants) could be run down the aisles to further cut down on the need for fertiliser - but suspect that the guys at Tahbilk have already considered that and decided it wouldn't work for them and they'd be better off just sticking to bringing in chicken manure to add to the compost. Is this the case, Tim?
I use chickens on my very small vineyard, but the scale of large places would be impractical. Plus they would eat the grapes.
Have a rather large new vineyard as one of my neighbours (first vintage coming up) and they're doing similar trials: one part has been mulched with straw, another has grasses growing, another has grasses growing then sprayed and another part has mowing. Over winter they bring in sheep to graze.
I haven't seen the viticulturist for about a year, but keen to have a chat about how it's all going and what they're up to.
There’s lots of good stuff going on out there and it’s thrilling to be invited to have a look!
Great video, thanks for sharing. Have the results from these trials been written up at all? I’m curious to read more! Thanks again
I’ve asked Lachie. I’ll pass on any suggestions.
They should switch to a side discharge slasher and use the inter row grass clippings to mulch under the vines. Suppressing the grasses, but still getting the organic matter.
As for multi species plantings and increased yield, 35 years ago I did a trial for my Yr 12 Ag assignment (with the NSW Dept of Ag) that clearly showed the benefits of multi species plantings for winter fodder crops, so its hardly a new discovery.
I’m not thinking that they are saying it’s new, rather they are finding out what works for them. In their enterprise. Cheers.
the internet is making harder, in fact a lot harder for old good ideas to be forgotten, then needing to be rediscovered.
Gday Tim great video, very informative and the question follow- Lachlan said the straw mulch gave a 20% increase in productivity yield was this over one year or the three year study ? - just wondering if they have test rows of different straw types ? I do believe that the mixed grass cover will show increased yields above the 20% but it will take a longer period. Thanks again for your time regards David.
G’day David. I believe they are a couple years into the straw. The straw is all the same (off their cropping paddocks). Interestingly the yield increase is not necessarily a good thing because winegrowers chase flavour and colour, yield can impact these qualities.
You should look up Kelly Mullvile and his integration of livestock into vineyards over the whole year as opposed to just winter
I wish I had hair like Lachy
Like your new hat Tim ☺️😅
Would the multi species ground cover method work for new fruit trees or better to keep to say a mulch until pretty well established before moving to this method? Thanks loving your videos learning heaps of valuable knowledge
Fruit trees need fruit size and vigour, I'd be careful. Keep the grass away for the first bit. I'm experiemnting with grass and my fruit is smaller.
@@FarmLearningTim thanks appreciate. I have about a 40cm radius around them with sugarcane mulch at the moment just wondering if this might be a lower maintenance option down the track. Again thanks for your content I am just getting into building my paradise and your knowledge has been very helpful.
Hi. Could a pigface or low ground hugging succulent be used under the vines instead of rotary hoe or herbicide?
Watch the video all the way…. Grasses and clovers are best….
Finally! You took my advice and upgraded to a new hat..... lookin'mighty sexy there fella! 😉🤟. Very interesting video, will be great to see the results in a few years.👍
Hmmm not so sure….. looks a bit flash eh?
Never realised Russell Morris was into vineyards.
Russell Morris was a musician, wrote "Real Thing". Google it. If ya gonna insult me at least get the name right son.
New hat mate!
Yeah. After a few years….
Why plant grass under the vines as it's a C4 photosynthesis plant? I'd try a mix of other species, them being C3 will not be so over competitive. Controlling those unwanted plants will become a lot easier once the mRNA sprays at long last come in, but thats another story that will turn agriculture on it's head.
Grasses shade soil and store carbon. Easy to manage. Hosts for bacteria and fungi. Some grasses are C4 (some other growers are playing with native C4 species) but C3 stop growing during peak water needs of the crop. Become a mulch and compliment the growing cycle. Wine grapes are one of the last crops on the planet whose major quality measure is flavour profiles. Over cropping reduces this. Grasses don’t lead to that problem like straw. Grasses are a great host for beneficial spiders and mites. This reduces pests like LBAM. Lots of good reasons to grow grasses under vineyards and very few bad ones. Cheers.