First of all, with a large rig I do not want to stop at a "gas station" maybe I will fit, maybe I won't. At a truck stop I know I will be able to get in and out. So I am going to use the truck stops with or without a card. I think you made some legitimate points about access to your checking account and yet another "thing" to keep track of. However the point you did not touch on is the convince and time savings of using the card at the pump. Without these programs, you stop at the pump, walk into the building, wait in line 10 mins, authorize the charge, walk back out to the pump, fill up, pull forward, walk back in wait another 10 mins walk back out. It can easily add a half an hour to your fuel stop. What should take 15 to 20 mins often ends up taking nearly an hour. That alone makes the card worth having. If I happen to save a little money, so much the better.
Andrew, this time I am not seen eye to eye with you on this one. Been using this service for a while and I have no problem using this card nor the company taking the money out of my account. Its just like using a regular credit card and they take the money from your account. If I can save .40, .50 cents per gallon, I am all for it. Keep the videos coming, I really enjoy them.
Been using TSD for 2 years and absolutely love it. It's so easy, everybody wins! I don't have to go into the store to first pay. There's no searching for deals, not sure I understand your reasoning. Plus, you can withdraw cash with no service charge. Different strokes for different folks, I guess. Still love your videos.Keep 'em coming!
@@sometimerving6849 I get both sides but trying to figure if you save an average of .35 per gallon---150 gallon X .35 cents is a little less than $50 savings on a complete 150 gallon bone dry fill up, not $100.
I got this card because the truck stop diesel lanes pumps won’t allow me to us my personal credit cards I have to go inside and pay and I agree with YOU about giving someone to much info
I just used the TSD fuel card last night for the first time. The pump price was $107 and they deducted $80 from my checking account today. The $27 looks much better in my account than it does theirs!!! Sorry Andrew but, I don't agree with you on this topic.
On the TSD fuel program, I really enjoy using the trucker pumps without having to go inside. Before TSD, I had to use a credit card, which required me to go inside since the trucker pumps didn't take them. I reckon I saved about $240 last year, which doesn't hurt, but the time saved at the pump feels good, as does the app's ability to find the best price at the touch of a button. Access to my checking account? Like many people, I have a monthly checking account that only has enough money to pay for the month's expenses, and as a result, I don't have to worry about any potential cybercrime on that account. No such crime has occurred yet, as far as I can tell. Bottom line: I love you on most issues, but on this one, our opinions and experiences seem quite different. For me, it's time saved and a few dollars saved, without any meaningful cost to me.
My TDS card takes about 30 seconds per month to check on. To save $30 to $50 per fillupit’s worth the time. Buys several dinners out. Some people set up separate checking accounts just for this use. But it’s your money.
We use TCS. Its a secured card meaning you prepay bill pay them through your bank. Just like you pay other bills online from your bank. Nobody could charge on it, your card is prepaid securely by you. Also, they send monthly statements. It's an app too- shows all fuel locations and prices on your routes.
To each his own. We love the card and the ease of use and when filling 115-120 gallons, I like the savings. Keep the great videos coming and keep doing you!!
Hey Andrew, this TSD program is one that continues to keep giving back to you with savings. If you feel the value of referrals is outside of how you want to operate, either don't accept them or donate the money to charity. As far as your bank account concern, open an account, use it for just TSD, and transfer the money into the account when you buy fuel, it is just like paying your credit card the next day after you fuel. I do respect your decision and opinion, but will continue to take the discount.
One suggestion for a future video. Your TH-cam experience so far. How it’s working out for you? More profitable than your detailing business yet? Are you spending more time with this format vs the detailing? You get to choose how many ads are played per video? Does it make a difference if a viewer watches the entire ad or skips it when option comes up? Do you have the option of length of ad ie. 2 - 5 second ones or 15 seconds. income based on number of views per video vs number of subscribers ? Do likes or dislikes make a difference? Hoping you get to 100k subscribers this year.
In the grand scheme of my little 33 gal tank in my Ram 2500 vs your bus, I don't expect to save much .. BUT .. when I pull up to TA in Tonopah AZ and the "advertised" price is 2.51 and pull away and check the APP to find that I only paid 1.74 for that fill-up, I'll take it! My last fill-up was only 24.5 gallons, the pump said 61.88, I got the receipt on the APP in about 2 minutes and my total was only 42.44 with a savings of 19.11 ... that (almost) 20 bucks was lunch that day. You're missing the boat my friend ... sorry to say. And about the issue of giving out your bank info, you really expect that to be an issue, we're so electronic today that I can walk into a doctor's office, give them my name and DOB and they know my insurance information without me even pulling out the card. The convenience of not having to go inside to pay in the truck lanes, the convenience of being able to get fuel and DEF in one transaction, the overall savings, yea TSD is a damn good deal! Love your channel BTW.
We had some of your concerns so we set up a separate bank account exclusivity for the card and put just enough in it to cover a trip. Limits the theft exposure. Love the card.
Like you said access. Major chains you can set up account register your cc and get small discount, least not have $75.00 limit. NATSO used to let your set up check writing nationwide for fuel. As a trucker their are lots of fuel cards and discounts. Like you say what is best for you. Have a good year
Andrew, I'm so surprised to hear you say this. I use the LOVES fuel card through Profit Tools that allows .10 below the cash price and the actual cash price at some other stations. All is deducted from my checking. I like the fact I can do everything at the pump without having to go inside so its mainly for convenience for me rather than the discount. The other fuel program varies .30-.50 or more per gallon discount. I haven't signed up yet for that one. I've had no problem in the 5-6 yrs. that I've been with Profit Tools. They do have safe guards in place (can't remember exactly what they are as it's been a while since I've read them). I'm averaging 10,000 miles a year in travels. Take care!
Savings on TSD can be more in the 50 to 60 cent per gallon and last spring with the oil pricing gyrations it was over a buck per gallon for no hassle fill-up’s at the pump. Agree with a dedicated account comment, use a monthly auto transfer so your dedicated account is never at too much risk. When you save $75 to $100 bucks for a big fill that’s real money. We probably saved $1000 over the last year for much better service. This is not clippin’ coupons Andrew. If you try it you’ll get on board.
I use the TSD card as much as I can. My savings usually gets spent the kids wanting junk food anyway. I use the Price Locator and since I need gas I just go through them. I've heard the deal were better in the past but I did save money when traveling with using the card.
We use the Good Sam card at the Pilot/ Flying J locations. We traveled over 9000 miles last year and it worked great to save me some bucks on fuel. But I understand that everyone is different and has their own reasons for participating or not.
I have a 42 ft class a diesel pusher. I get 9 miles a gallon and travel about 5000 miles a year. I have been averaging about 50 cent a gallon savings. That's about a savings of $278. That's money I can use another time for more diesel that I wouldn't have if I didn't use the discount card. The key is to have a small checking account just for my gas stops.
Great video about fuel cards. In North Carolina, there is a fuel station ⛽ company that has a pricing program that there sign highlights what they call easy pay/credit card that by setting up an account through your checking account linked to their card gives 10 cents off per gallon, and because of that I only patronize them if convenient, and cheaper, because usually I get as good if not better pricing through my grocery store/pharmacy program. Thanks for all your videos Andrew, keep up the great work, even if the RV'S that you highlight are out of my rv budget(I enjoy the travel trailer/fifth wheel price points). I really enjoy seeing the content, and introducing of other TH-cam channels.
You lost me at MLM comparisons. TCS offers a few ways to pay and none of them are direct withdrawals from your account. The client must initiate the Transfer or Wire to pay the card. TSD however does a withdrawal with in 2-5 days. One option could be to move the cash into an account just for the TSD withdrawal as you go. Let’s take a Tiffin Phaeton with a 100gl capacity (Tiffin.com) and the mid range of 7 MPG (camper report.com) for 9,000 miles a year. If each tank got you about 700 miles it would take 13 fill-ups to get you the 9,000 miles. If the ave price of fuel is 2.57 (AAA) the most you would pay assuming you drained the tank is $3,341. If you saved .40 cents a gallon using the card you would spend $2,821 That’s a savings of right around $520 a year or 16% per tank. That isn’t insignificant for folks on a fixed income. ( ball park ) MATH: 100 gallon tank (7mpg) =700 miles 9000 miles a year / 700 miles a tank =13 fill ups. (12.8 rounded up) 2.57(100) $257 a tank 257 a tank (13 fill ups) = 3,341a year for those 9000 miles at 7 MPG WITH DISCOUNT 217(13) 2,821which saves $520.00a year at those 9000 miles.
we set up a seperate savings account with $1000 in the account. Its not attached to any of our other accounts. we've never had an issue and the most anyone would get is $1000 if the account had the full amount. We love it!
I use it and do save a lot of money. I drive 11,000 a year. I go to the same truck stops anyway. I have referred friends without using getting a kickback.
Pilot/flying J has a points card that saves RV owners on fuel. It’s free check it out. As for me, my Prevost sees thousands of miles a year. I drive it like car owners drive cars. Last year was close to 30K. At this level fuel points make sense. It doesn’t attach to any accounts or SS or any other PII. Loves has a similar program.
Agree 100%, and I don’t like extended warranties either. Years ago I had an extended warranty on my motorhome which I paid for for several years. The first time I had a repair there was a technicality that the repair couldn’t be covered. I dropped it immediately and paid for the repair and adding up all the money I’ve saved over the years it’s been a net good for me. I think these fuel programs are about the same category. I have been to Europe at least 10 times Toured in multiple countries traveled most of the states of the United States and I have never had a debit card and never expect to have one.
I do love his video learning some thing form him all the time! Really felt the same as he does about so called great deals! Great Job! Keeping ever one informed! Ty... God Bless!🙏🙏🙏
New subscriber, love the channel, been binge watching to get up to speed. Couldn't wait to read the comments on this one and wasn't disappointed! You're doing what works for you and that's all that matters. At least you gave folks new to the game something to do their own homework on. Shout out to Big Tony. Roll safe!😉
Also they put scanner in the fuel pumps at this stations make sure the seal is intact on the pumps. Also have you heard of the Michigan Liability Product Law that was passed by our Formal Governor, I started a petition drive to have this law appeal, please the word out there . You will found one on facebook and the other on twitter . Please help if you can for Michigan resident only .
We have had for one year. No problems. You are not required to use it if have. Does save money. Just set up a separate bank account to pull money from. No big deal. Just use the card they provide verses your credit card. If you do not use there is no cost. We do not go out of our way or drive further to buy fuel.
Just set up a second checking account for the sole purpose of the fuel card, which my bank didn’t charge me any additional monthly fees to do. I would never give anyone access to my primary account. I can transfer the funds from my cell phone into the second account from anywhere, and I only keep a few thousand in it to fund my fuel purchases, but limit any loss if there is ever any problems. Whatever works for you, but I’d love to find several hundred bucks laying on the ground every year, which is equal to my savings. Plus, the more people who participate in these programs will ultimately equate to more savings for us all, just based on the “buying power” of the group.
Totally agree.. even the Gas Buddy card requires your DL# and access to your bank account. Nuff bad stuff going on out there without some fuel discount program having sensitive info !
You are wrong people are not pushing for the $25 kick back. They do it because of the savings. I guess everyone isn't rich like you and can really enjoy the savings. If the account access is a problem then setup an account to only use for tsd. The only reason I see you wouldn't use this Andrew is because you don't have the cash in the bank to cover the cost.
@@RVingwithAndrewSteele - No it doesn't take hours, Andrew. Took me less than five minutes at the drive-up window of my credit union. The gal even set up my TSD account in such a way that I can easily transfer money (online or from my phone!) out of my main checking account over to the TSD account, but should I accidentally overdraw my TSD account, it will NOT draw out of my main checking or savings account. Was a totally simple process that, like I said, was done at the drive-up window! No separate statements, either - transactions show up on my regular monthly statement from the credit union, just under their own heading. Much simpler to keep track of than my cell phone bill! As for the referral program, TSD has a lifetime maximum limit you can receive from referrals, so it's NOT a money-making scheme for users like you're claiming. You also don't receive actual cash for a referral - it's simply a credit on your statement when you yourself buy fuel. Lots of folk "red flag" the requirement for your SSN, but how many companies/gov't agencies/credit bureaus/etc. already have your SSN? How many times has it been breached? TSD requires it in case you become a deadbeat and they have to pursue legal recourse to collect money you own them. It's a business decision. There is also NO WAY your SSN can be breached if you loose your TSD card, if for no other reason that the card won't work unless you use a PIN, which you can change periodically - just like you can with a debit card (which is what the TSD card actually is.) Finally, perhaps you should re-evaluate TSD - last I heard, over 22,000 RVers (that's equivalent to almost 1/3rd of your subscribers!) are happily using their fuel discount program. (And no, I do NOT work for TSD, I'm just a happy customer.) Just sayin'.
I totally agree. Just use you're credit card with the pilot card or my Good Sam and get the points and have one bill. We put down 10,100 miles in 2020 Just do yourself a favor and call your credit card before you leave let them know you're going... anti-fraud stuff sometimes can stop your card from working out of state!
Good points Andrew. It seems to me that when I compare the truck stop prices to other diesel outlets on Gas Buddy the truck stop prices are much higher. I just check on Google earth to make sure it is easy in and out for the motorhome and toad.
Sorry this is way easier than pulling up to the pump. Getting out and walking to the pay station, pre paying for fuel either guessing an amount or overpaying. Then pumping and then goin back in waiting in line again and getting a receipt or credit if you guessed wrong and then asking to get a credit back on your card and then waiting and checking to make sure the transaction was done, and done correctly which could take days to show up. So you check several times till you see it.. Wow I'm tired just writing about it. TSD Pull up, Fill up, Drive away. In a hour or so you get a email with the transaction details with your savings amount .... LOVE IT. It's not amway, MLM etc Fill out your app, get the card save $$$$.
Huh?? I love your videos but I think your nuts not to use TSD. It is so much easier to use a truck stop for filling up my 40' DP plus towing my car. Plus most truck stops offer DEF at the pump station as well which is very convenient. I never have to worry about getting in and out of a local gas station. When I plan a trip I can usually figure out when I will need fuel and I plan for these stops. Using RV Trip Wizard I can also setup waypoint stops for fuel along my route. Please remember the typical interstate truck stop retail pricing is so much higher than a local gas station for the same diesel fuel. So a TSD fuel car just makes it much more competitive. Plus using a TSD fuel card is just as easy as using a credit card at the pump. I found early on that if I want to use my regular credit card at a truck stop for diesel fuel I have to go inside twice to complete the transaction. Once to fill up and once to pay. With the TSD fuel card I pay at the pump. As far as finding the closest fueling stations they provide a very helpful phone app that will show you were they are and what they are charging right now. Yes you do have to setup a bank account and a ACH type transfer authorization. However, if you are nervous just setup another bank account and maintain funds in it to cover the fuel costs only. I have never had an issue with my bank ever. As far as remembering more password and worrying about brain fog, you only have to remember the last 4 digits of your SSN. That's it. Plus you stated that if you save more money you might travel more and put more miles on your coach. And, this is a bad thing?? As a side note I used my TSD card yesterday at a TA Truck Stop near Savannah, GA just off exit 87 on I-95. Their retail pricing was $2.79 credit. I paid $2.32 via my TSD card. Andrew you just really need to try it for yourself. Right now I just think your logic is faulty.
I am a huge fan of Gas Buddy, it has saved me a lot on long trips to see my uncle in Yuma. If I drove a lot to make money, it would be worth it for the discount cards.
As a full timer and having a 200 gallon fuel tank, this card is a no brainer to me. Call it pennies or what ever, but money in my pocket is alright with me! I fueled up this morning coming out of TN to Florida and my fuel bill at the pump was $250. I have not received my bill from them yet, but should have it tomorrow and it will tell me how much they took and what my total cost was. According to their app, since I was at a TA truck stop, I will save approximately .62 cents a gallon. Again, it varies from station to station and also the state you are in, but all I have to do is look on the app on my phone and pick the station I wish to go for the best savings. A no brainer for us! Oh, never made a dime on this either by telling someone else to get this card and mention my name. On average we travel approximately 12 to 15k a year!
I've found value in the TSD program, but agree it may not be worth saving a few hunded bucks. I don't do any of the referals (as like you I don't like dealing with referal marketing or asking friends to buy something). However, since we travel 12-15,000 miles a year I've saved somewhere around $3,000 using the card in two years. I figure out the biggest discount (.80 cents or more) and work those as my fuel stops into my itinerary (This year the biggest discount was at T/A). I don't spend more than 10 minutes setting up my fuel stops and feel it adds some piece of mind knowing where we will stop. Setting up the card tooks about 10 minutes and I use a dedicated bank account. Using the card requires you to enter a personal Id # at the pump, so I don't worry about someone getting the card an figuring that number out. I also find the commercial lanes easier to manuver in and out of with my tow vehicle and they pump quicker (and on both sides). Like I said, I agree with many of your points and am still a big fan. It just works for me and how we travel.
Ditto Andrew! Some small complicaters just not worth it. Requiring SS# is a personal issue 4 me. Also Cut Hundreds of Coupons and left them at home Every Time! I'm now Free from those things😂
I have a bank account left over from making a car loan payment. I could have gone down to the bank and closed the account, but I'm lazy. Instead, I used it for a TSD fuel card to avoid going into the store each fueling (why no pay at the pump at truck stops!!??). It's got a few dollars in it and I can transfer money in as needed. Without it, I probably wouldn't have done this. As a commercial driver doing 500-700 miles a day, it's a no brainer. My next door neighbor loves it! As an RVer, it's less value. The referral is also not worth much since it requires a pretty large amount of purchases before it gives up $25. Maybe if all your friends were truckers? I think Andrew is spot-on, as usual.
Good info. I heard about TSD for fuel savings...had no idea they require your SS# and YOUR checking account number. Ah...nope, nope and nope. In law enforcement cyber section...CC is the safest way! Not checking card OR checking account number. Thanks for the info!!!! Will stick with the individual gas station cards (Pilot, Speedway, Loves, etc). Keep up the videos!!! Thanks and safe travels!
Andrew I tend to agree with you I do have an account at a commercial wholesale company in my area which is tied to a national network. The facilities that are available with the company I am with allow me tons of space for the maneuverability high flow pumps and never a line or a hassle getting in and out of a public truckstop. I am very willing to pay two or three more cents per gallon to have the convenience of not having to fight the crowds such as at a Costco. Thomyt
I don’t agree with your conclusion however you bring up valid points to consider. Should have a diesel Rig that allows for high capacity fueling. Also there are curtain times of day when commercial lanes are too busy at the deepest discount stations. All programs have restrictions. It’s a everybody wins situation your participation allows for TSD to make money also.
Gas Buddy and a Wexfuel card, they take it everywhere i've stopped and its good for gas or diesel, its Pin number protected and Ive found them to be very responsive about problems like losing the card
I agree Andrew, I don't put enough miles on to mess with the saving/loyalty card except for the Fred Meyers card here in the Pacific Northwest. I agree the Loves & Pilots are convenient, but many push the B20 Bio fuel not #2 diesel. I do look for Indian Casino fuel stations to save the Federal Fuel tax if on my way.
I drive 55k year savings $0.50/gallon, no risk with ACH because only put gas money in the account, love you did this video, agree not right for you but my mileage makes it a no brainer and huge savings
Okay, I am going to weigh in on this. Andrew is correct! I use gas buddy when traveling and found thet the inflated prices on the signs and pumpp is a farce! Sam's club and others beat the discounted prices HANDS DOWN!
I drive high miles. I use the card to get in and out of truck stops without going in. Very fast. High flow nozzles. Don’t have to deal with the cars. That alone is worth it. TSD requires two factor authentication. Swipe card. Enter personal code. Cannot use it without both so if you lose it it’s useless to somebody else.
Not to pile on (and I enjoy most of your videos) but aren’t you the guy who spends a couple of hours producing a 15 minute video that generates 15,000 views and $75 from TH-cam but you are scoffing at TSD users who save $75 per fill with a negative time investment (saves about 10 minutes) all while they save hassle at the pump?
@@RVingwithAndrewSteele ; that is all the proof I would need. I know my company gets 0.45 cents rebates off the pump at select big chains I won’t name. But we have a fleet of over 800 trucks running across and America. Safe travels out there !!
Credit card give cash back too without accessing your bank account and protect against fraudulent charges which we get several times over the years just after we use in gas station.
My Comdata card saves me anywhere from.50 cents to almost 2.00 off a gallon. It depends on how you set your account up I preload my card before heading out and that’s the money I spend on fuel only. I can use the card anywhere it has a MasterCard logo on it. But I do get where your coming from with adding another account
I think you need to do a bit more research on this... this is not a multi level marketing scheme. Many truck companies use this company to manage their fleets. Its quite simple to get around the bank account risk, open a bank account specifically for TSD, only put money in it when you are ready to buy fuel. Its very simple and safe. Certainly you have to determine what works best for you. Some folks do not like to go into the truck stops, then this is definitely not the card for you. The only thing I can say is it technically does not save you as much if you compare to regular stations, but it allows you to pull into a roomy truck stop with your rig towing a trailer etc and not have to fight all the people at the local Wal-mart gas station. I have a TSD for 2 years now.. no issues, and great fuel prices, they are usually cheaper than the local stations even.
I appreciate your integrity Andrew. I'm not a fan of that system either. The stations where you can use the TSC, PTS, OBG, card are usually more expensive than the fueling station right across the street. So are you really saving anything? It also, like you said, adds another level of personal accounting to stay on top of it.
Very very true. Risking becoming an victim of fraudulent activity for 30 cents per gallon, it's not worth it. Also, I will purchase an motorhome I can afford, including amount of fuel and maintenance it requires.
Kind of sounds like a rant because you don't want to go to the trouble to do the effort required. No issues - it is good to hear the opinion of others who aren't out there pimping the finder's fee for getting others to sign up. Me? I'm not a full timer and I pull a 28-ft travel trailer with a diesel pick-up with a 33-gal tank getting 16Mpg when towing (but as low as 8Mpg in the mountains or in stiff headwinds). The savings just aren't significant enough to use it, and I have found that RVs are not always welcome in the trucking lanes. So, if my "someday" comes and we hit the road full time in a fuel-thirsty Class A, then yeah we may look into whatever might exist at that time.
Simplify your life. Get a rewards card through your bank and everything goes on there. One card for your entire life months spending. I have gotten more trips and more cash backs, etc and so on for massive points that are all controlled by you. Use anywhere and not be controlled by anything. Great points Andrew. Also , I do agree with some comments. But more fun to see those test drives. Now get out there. And drive every RV you can get your hands on. Lol
I think fair to point out TSD needs ss# because they are extending credit to us just like any credit card, btw my credit card and all utilities ach from checking also
Hey Andrew, I assume you wouldn't review an RV without test driving it. Give it a try, interview someone from the company before knocking it. Thousands of truckers and RVers use it. They can't all be wrong. Convenience driving a huge rig is a bonus. Would you drive through a small town with a huge RV just to find the cheapest fuel?? I think not
I hear you regarding the direct draft concern .. we all should worry about that and decide accordingly. However, the title of this episode is tripping over dollars to save pennies. Did I miss the segment where you identified the dollars we are tripping over??
Time to have a little fun and do a video on one of your hobbies? Fishing? Go-cart racing bird watching 👀? Happy new year, can't wait to have you up on the north end of the flathead for a BBQ...
Andrew this video has me smdh. First , different passwords, not sure I get that. I use TSD and I had my bank setup another checking account just for this card. The account doesn't have overdraft protection which means it's not connected to any of my other accounts. When I log into my main checking account, I see all my accounts including the one for TSD. I use the same userid and password, nothing changed. If you use the TSD app, that's an additional userid/password. If you have an iphone, you can use the FaceID so you only have to enter it once. I do get the SSN concerns. Everytime you finance something (ie; RV) you're giving a complete stranger your SSN number. When you leave that office, you have no clue what that person might do with your SSN. Just don't think the SSN argument holds much value when you consider how often a SSN is used. In the banking industry, there are so many breaches, one additional account that has my SSN doesn't bother me to the point of not getting the TSD card but I do worry about all the breaches in general.
You make good points. Keep it simple. Social security number... what? (That would have been a deal breaker for me) Fraud recourse? Open Access to your account? (Why don't you leave him some signed blank checks while you're at it)
I agree Andrew there is no way in h##l I would be giving my SIN # (canadian) and access to my chequing account to any retail outlet. Red flag is exactly correct! Just like you said, how does one fight too much taken out of your account by accident? Secondly, relying that there computer system doesn’t get breached, with access to your SIN, it’s instant identity theft. Not worth it for me either, lol. Cheers 🍻
You said you use a credit card instead of your debit, so I'm not sure if you know, but you can use your debit card either as debit or as a credit card. And if there's a charge on your card that you didn't do your bank will put the money back into your account within so many hours and overnight you a new card, and it doesn't matter if you used it as a debit or as a credit card.
I just looked at my investment account and noticed the $800 I purchased in fuel last month on my credit card earned me $300 before I had to pay the CC bill with no risk of draining my entire bank account!
you could just open a seperate account and keep only funds for fuel in with a small amount just to keep it open that would take probably a phone call or quick bank visit and like your last trip i think you said you spent 1200 on fuel you could save quite a few bucks
I know more than one person who has had their checking account drained for one reason or another. When you mentioned they wanted your checking account and Social Security number that was enough for me. This time in our country with people out of work scammers are having a field day. Pay with credit card, and then pay the credit card off. Just my two cents...........
I think you are way off base on this one. The huge time saver others pointed out is the truck lanes, just scan and go. I think it is safer then a credit card you need to put in a passcode at the pump. You don’t need to use the discounted locations if they are not convenient.
I’ve set up a free checking account for fuel. I fund it when I travel. I use the card. I’ve never made a dime on referrals. I know a few who have been in higher places (clubs) that made that money. I agree you should not do that less you catch hell out here. Works for me
Come on Man, lol how much time does it take to put in a code to save money. You make it sound like your going out of your way to get the fuel at 4:32 you say your getting cheaper fuel so you would just keep on going LOL WHAT? lol if your traveling your putting miles on your motor coach regardless. Then you say if you don't use the fuel cards your not putting more wear and tear on your coach? LOL Seriously who has time to make up all these scenarios of a what IF situation you could have signed up in this amount of time lol Great video Andrew
First of all, with a large rig I do not want to stop at a "gas station" maybe I will fit, maybe I won't. At a truck stop I know I will be able to get in and out. So I am going to use the truck stops with or without a card. I think you made some legitimate points about access to your checking account and yet another "thing" to keep track of. However the point you did not touch on is the convince and time savings of using the card at the pump. Without these programs, you stop at the pump, walk into the building, wait in line 10 mins, authorize the charge, walk back out to the pump, fill up, pull forward, walk back in wait another 10 mins walk back out. It can easily add a half an hour to your fuel stop. What should take 15 to 20 mins often ends up taking nearly an hour. That alone makes the card worth having. If I happen to save a little money, so much the better.
Andrew, this time I am not seen eye to eye with you on this one. Been using this service for a while and I have no problem using this card nor the company taking the money out of my account. Its just like using a regular credit card and they take the money from your account. If I can save .40, .50 cents per gallon, I am all for it. Keep the videos coming, I really enjoy them.
I use pre pass toll transponders and they ach from my travel checking account as well
Been using TSD for 2 years and absolutely love it. It's so easy, everybody wins! I don't have to go into the store to first pay. There's no searching for deals, not sure I understand your reasoning. Plus, you can withdraw cash with no service charge. Different strokes for different folks, I guess. Still love your videos.Keep 'em coming!
Four minutes of my life I’ll never get back.😢. Yes, the video is over seven minutes, but couldn’t bear to waste more.
I agree Ron, The TDS program has been a game changer. I save about $100 per fill up, I have a Newmar with a 150 gallon tank.
@@sometimerving6849 I get both sides but trying to figure if you save an average of .35 per gallon---150 gallon X .35 cents is a little less than $50 savings on a complete 150 gallon bone dry fill up, not $100.
I don't know ... Saving $0.78 per gallon seems pretty good to me ... More like $1K annually. I have a dedicated account for fuel expenses.
I got this card because the truck stop diesel lanes pumps won’t allow me to us my personal credit cards I have to go inside and pay and I agree with YOU about giving someone to much info
It's not about saving the $500, it's about all of the hassle and risk I would have to take in order to save that $500
Right going into to pre pay sucks!!!!!
I just used the TSD fuel card last night for the first time. The pump price was $107 and they deducted $80 from my checking account today. The $27 looks much better in my account than it does theirs!!! Sorry Andrew but, I don't agree with you on this topic.
Agree love ours
I don't think I had ti give them my ss# either.
On the TSD fuel program, I really enjoy using the trucker pumps without having to go inside. Before TSD, I had to use a credit card, which required me to go inside since the trucker pumps didn't take them. I reckon I saved about $240 last year, which doesn't hurt, but the time saved at the pump feels good, as does the app's ability to find the best price at the touch of a button. Access to my checking account? Like many people, I have a monthly checking account that only has enough money to pay for the month's expenses, and as a result, I don't have to worry about any potential cybercrime on that account. No such crime has occurred yet, as far as I can tell. Bottom line: I love you on most issues, but on this one, our opinions and experiences seem quite different. For me, it's time saved and a few dollars saved, without any meaningful cost to me.
My TDS card takes about 30 seconds per month to check on. To save $30 to $50 per fillupit’s worth the time. Buys several dinners out. Some people set up separate checking accounts just for this use. But it’s your money.
We use TCS. Its a secured card meaning you prepay bill pay them through your bank. Just like you pay other bills online from your bank.
Nobody could charge on it,
your card is prepaid securely by you.
Also, they send monthly statements. It's an app too- shows all fuel locations and prices on your routes.
Sounds very complicated
To each his own. We love the card and the ease of use and when filling 115-120 gallons, I like the savings. Keep the great videos coming and keep doing you!!
Hey Andrew, this TSD program is one that continues to keep giving back to you with savings. If you feel the value of referrals is outside of how you want to operate, either don't accept them or donate the money to charity. As far as your bank account concern, open an account, use it for just TSD, and transfer the money into the account when you buy fuel, it is just like paying your credit card the next day after you fuel.
I do respect your decision and opinion, but will continue to take the discount.
One suggestion for a future video. Your TH-cam experience so far.
How it’s working out for you? More profitable than your detailing business yet? Are you spending more time with this format vs the detailing? You get to choose how many ads are played per video? Does it make a difference if a viewer watches the entire ad or skips it when option comes up? Do you have the option of length of ad ie. 2 - 5 second ones or 15 seconds. income based on number of views per video vs number of subscribers ? Do likes or dislikes make a difference? Hoping you get to 100k subscribers this year.
I've often wondered the same! I mean it seems like so much work, literally.
Too many questions.>>>
Stan o yes. I mean no.
Love my TDS card, just saved $64.82 dollars today
Andrew has a “squirrel “ moment when the plane flies by...
In the grand scheme of my little 33 gal tank in my Ram 2500 vs your bus, I don't expect to save much .. BUT .. when I pull up to TA in Tonopah AZ and the "advertised" price is 2.51 and pull away and check the APP to find that I only paid 1.74 for that fill-up, I'll take it! My last fill-up was only 24.5 gallons, the pump said 61.88, I got the receipt on the APP in about 2 minutes and my total was only 42.44 with a savings of 19.11 ... that (almost) 20 bucks was lunch that day. You're missing the boat my friend ... sorry to say. And about the issue of giving out your bank info, you really expect that to be an issue, we're so electronic today that I can walk into a doctor's office, give them my name and DOB and they know my insurance information without me even pulling out the card. The convenience of not having to go inside to pay in the truck lanes, the convenience of being able to get fuel and DEF in one transaction, the overall savings, yea TSD is a damn good deal! Love your channel BTW.
We had some of your concerns so we set up a separate bank account exclusivity for the card and put just enough in it to cover a trip. Limits the theft exposure. Love the card.
I'll take a $500. cash back for taking less then 10 minutes to set up TSD account. No downside, only upside.
Like you said access. Major chains you can set up account register your cc and get small discount, least not have $75.00 limit. NATSO used to let your set up check writing nationwide for fuel. As a trucker their are lots of fuel cards and discounts. Like you say what is best for you. Have a good year
Andrew, I'm so surprised to hear you say this. I use the LOVES fuel card through Profit Tools that allows .10 below the cash price and the actual cash price at some other stations. All is deducted from my checking. I like the fact I can do everything at the pump without having to go inside so its mainly for convenience for me rather than the discount. The other fuel program varies .30-.50 or more per gallon discount. I haven't signed up yet for that one. I've had no problem in the 5-6 yrs. that I've been with Profit Tools. They do have safe guards in place (can't remember exactly what they are as it's been a while since I've read them). I'm averaging 10,000 miles a year in travels. Take care!
is Profit Tools just for diesel like the TSD program is can you use it for gasoline
@@MaximusMerideus Truck stop diesel only.
Savings on TSD can be more in the 50 to 60 cent per gallon and last spring with the oil pricing gyrations it was over a buck per gallon for no hassle fill-up’s at the pump. Agree with a dedicated account comment, use a monthly auto transfer so your dedicated account is never at too much risk. When you save $75 to $100 bucks for a big fill that’s real money. We probably saved $1000 over the last year for much better service. This is not clippin’ coupons Andrew. If you try it you’ll get on board.
I use the TSD card as much as I can. My savings usually gets spent the kids wanting junk food anyway. I use the Price Locator and since I need gas I just go through them. I've heard the deal were better in the past but I did save money when traveling with using the card.
We use the Good Sam card at the Pilot/ Flying J locations. We traveled over 9000 miles last year and it worked great to save me some bucks on fuel. But I understand that everyone is different and has their own reasons for participating or not.
I have a 42 ft class a diesel pusher. I get 9 miles a gallon and travel about 5000 miles a year. I have been averaging about 50 cent a gallon savings. That's about a savings of $278. That's money I can use another time for more diesel that I wouldn't have if I didn't use the discount card. The key is to have a small checking account just for my gas stops.
I get 9 mpg if I’m rolling downhill with a 30 mph wind pushing me. 😂😂😂😂 ( 2005 Country Coach Prevost)
@@bd5av8r1 how sad for you!
@@davidsmith5433 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Great video about fuel cards. In North Carolina, there is a fuel station ⛽ company that has a pricing program that there sign highlights what they call easy pay/credit card that by setting up an account through your checking account linked to their card gives 10 cents off per gallon, and because of that I only patronize them if convenient, and cheaper, because usually I get as good if not better pricing through my grocery store/pharmacy program. Thanks for all your videos Andrew, keep up the great work, even if the RV'S that you highlight are out of my rv budget(I enjoy the travel trailer/fifth wheel price points). I really enjoy seeing the content, and introducing of other TH-cam channels.
You lost me at MLM comparisons. TCS offers a few ways to pay and none of them are direct withdrawals from your account. The client must initiate the Transfer or Wire to pay the card. TSD however does a withdrawal with in 2-5 days. One option could be to move the cash into an account just for the TSD withdrawal as you go.
Let’s take a Tiffin Phaeton with a 100gl capacity (Tiffin.com) and the mid range of 7 MPG (camper report.com) for 9,000 miles a year. If each tank got you about 700 miles it would take 13 fill-ups to get you the 9,000 miles. If the ave price of fuel is 2.57 (AAA) the most you would pay assuming you drained the tank is $3,341. If you saved .40 cents a gallon using the card you would spend $2,821
That’s a savings of right around $520 a year or 16% per tank. That isn’t insignificant for folks on a fixed income. ( ball park )
MATH:
100 gallon tank (7mpg) =700 miles
9000 miles a year / 700 miles a tank =13 fill ups. (12.8 rounded up)
2.57(100) $257 a tank
257 a tank (13 fill ups) = 3,341a year for those 9000 miles at 7 MPG
WITH DISCOUNT
217(13) 2,821which saves $520.00a year at those 9000 miles.
He lost more than you. That was credibility going out the window with that comment.
@@DutchStar443 was my math inaccurate? Oh oh. Never mind. I had to read what you typed a few times. I understand what you are saying.
I’m with you. Not a huge fan on giving access to my checking account.
we set up a seperate savings account with $1000 in the account. Its not attached to any of our other accounts. we've never had an issue and the most anyone would get is $1000 if the account had the full amount. We love it!
I use it and do save a lot of money. I drive 11,000 a year. I go to the same truck stops anyway. I have referred friends without using getting a kickback.
Very valid point. I don't give out my SS# or checking info to anyone.
i had to give mine once but that was to kyle for checking tire codes. it only cost me $5000.
@@misterrobert6799 🤣🚌👍
Pilot/flying J has a points card that saves RV owners on fuel. It’s free check it out. As for me, my Prevost sees thousands of miles a year. I drive it like car owners drive cars. Last year was close to 30K. At this level fuel points make sense. It doesn’t attach to any accounts or SS or any other PII. Loves has a similar program.
At 30k Miles a year, you are using your RV 600% more than most RVs so it may make sense for you to use a fuel program.
@@RVingwithAndrewSteele I use my gas RV 20k-25k a year as well. Traveling singer and preacher so use it a lot.
TA with the TSD card usually comes out to 20 cents more savings than Pilot or Flying J from experience.
Agree 100%, and I don’t like extended warranties either. Years ago I had an extended warranty on my motorhome which I paid for for several years. The first time I had a repair there was a technicality that the repair couldn’t be covered. I dropped it immediately and paid for the repair and adding up all the money I’ve saved over the years it’s been a net good for me. I think these fuel programs are about the same category. I have been to Europe at least 10 times Toured in multiple countries traveled most of the states of the United States and I have never had a debit card and never expect to have one.
Bitcoin ?
I love your channel! The one thing I do in my coach is use an EZ-bed when I have extra people staying with me.
I do love his video learning some thing form him all the time! Really felt the same as he does about so called great deals! Great Job! Keeping ever one informed! Ty... God Bless!🙏🙏🙏
New subscriber, love the channel, been binge watching to get up to speed. Couldn't wait to read the comments on this one and wasn't disappointed! You're doing what works for you and that's all that matters. At least you gave folks new to the game something to do their own homework on. Shout out to Big Tony. Roll safe!😉
Thank you!
Also they put scanner in the fuel pumps at this stations make sure the seal is intact on the pumps. Also have you heard of the Michigan Liability Product Law that was passed by our Formal Governor, I started a petition drive to have this law appeal, please the word out there . You will found one on facebook and the other on twitter . Please help if you can for Michigan resident only .
We have had for one year. No problems. You are not required to use it if have. Does save money. Just set up a separate bank account to pull money from. No big deal. Just use the card they provide verses your credit card. If you do not use there is no cost. We do not go out of our way or drive further to buy fuel.
Just set up a second checking account for the sole purpose of the fuel card, which my bank didn’t charge me any additional monthly fees to do. I would never give anyone access to my primary account. I can transfer the funds from my cell phone into the second account from anywhere, and I only keep a few thousand in it to fund my fuel purchases, but limit any loss if there is ever any problems. Whatever works for you, but I’d love to find several hundred bucks laying on the ground every year, which is equal to my savings. Plus, the more people who participate in these programs will ultimately equate to more savings for us all, just based on the “buying power” of the group.
Totally agree.. even the Gas Buddy card requires your DL# and access to your bank account. Nuff bad stuff going on out there without some fuel discount program having sensitive info !
You are wrong people are not pushing for the $25 kick back. They do it because of the savings. I guess everyone isn't rich like you and can really enjoy the savings.
If the account access is a problem then setup an account to only use for tsd. The only reason I see you wouldn't use this Andrew is because you don't have the cash in the bank to cover the cost.
Happy and healthy and safe 2021 Andrew...I hope this New year bring you more and more work and more $$$$🙂🙏
1 year using the card, saved over 1 thousand dollars traveled 14k miles in the year. Wish I would have known sooner.
Setting up a checking account just for fuel would seem like a good compromise to save a few hundred dollars a year.
Sounds like a huge hassle! It takes hours to set up a checking account
@@RVingwithAndrewSteele Hi Andrew, I'm not sure where you bank but setting up an additional account doesn't take much time.
@@RVingwithAndrewSteele - No it doesn't take hours, Andrew. Took me less than five minutes at the drive-up window of my credit union. The gal even set up my TSD account in such a way that I can easily transfer money (online or from my phone!) out of my main checking account over to the TSD account, but should I accidentally overdraw my TSD account, it will NOT draw out of my main checking or savings account. Was a totally simple process that, like I said, was done at the drive-up window! No separate statements, either - transactions show up on my regular monthly statement from the credit union, just under their own heading. Much simpler to keep track of than my cell phone bill!
As for the referral program, TSD has a lifetime maximum limit you can receive from referrals, so it's NOT a money-making scheme for users like you're claiming. You also don't receive actual cash for a referral - it's simply a credit on your statement when you yourself buy fuel.
Lots of folk "red flag" the requirement for your SSN, but how many companies/gov't agencies/credit bureaus/etc. already have your SSN? How many times has it been breached? TSD requires it in case you become a deadbeat and they have to pursue legal recourse to collect money you own them. It's a business decision. There is also NO WAY your SSN can be breached if you loose your TSD card, if for no other reason that the card won't work unless you use a PIN, which you can change periodically - just like you can with a debit card (which is what the TSD card actually is.)
Finally, perhaps you should re-evaluate TSD - last I heard, over 22,000 RVers (that's equivalent to almost 1/3rd of your subscribers!) are happily using their fuel discount program. (And no, I do NOT work for TSD, I'm just a happy customer.) Just sayin'.
I totally agree. Just use you're credit card with the pilot card or my Good Sam and get the points and have one bill.
We put down 10,100 miles in 2020
Just do yourself a favor and call your credit card before you leave let them know you're going... anti-fraud stuff sometimes can stop your card from working out of state!
Good points Andrew. It seems to me that when I compare the truck stop prices to other diesel outlets on Gas Buddy the truck stop prices are much higher. I just check on Google earth to make sure it is easy in and out for the motorhome and toad.
Buddy, stick to videos of the bus,s
But hey, your choice
Sorry this is way easier than pulling up to the pump. Getting out and walking to the pay station, pre paying for fuel either guessing an amount or overpaying. Then pumping and then goin back in waiting in line again and getting a receipt or credit if you guessed wrong and then asking to get a credit back on your card and then waiting and checking to make sure the transaction was done, and done correctly which could take days to show up. So you check several times till you see it.. Wow I'm tired just writing about it. TSD Pull up, Fill up, Drive away. In a hour or so you get a email with the transaction details with your savings amount .... LOVE IT. It's not amway, MLM etc Fill out your app, get the card save $$$$.
Huh?? I love your videos but I think your nuts not to use TSD. It is so much easier to use a truck stop for filling up my 40' DP plus towing my car. Plus most truck stops offer DEF at the pump station as well which is very convenient. I never have to worry about getting in and out of a local gas station. When I plan a trip I can usually figure out when I will need fuel and I plan for these stops. Using RV Trip Wizard I can also setup waypoint stops for fuel along my route.
Please remember the typical interstate truck stop retail pricing is so much higher than a local gas station for the same diesel fuel. So a TSD fuel car just makes it much more competitive. Plus using a TSD fuel card is just as easy as using a credit card at the pump. I found early on that if I want to use my regular credit card at a truck stop for diesel fuel I have to go inside twice to complete the transaction. Once to fill up and once to pay. With the TSD fuel card I pay at the pump. As far as finding the closest fueling stations they provide a very helpful phone app that will show you were they are and what they are charging right now.
Yes you do have to setup a bank account and a ACH type transfer authorization. However, if you are nervous just setup another bank account and maintain funds in it to cover the fuel costs only. I have never had an issue with my bank ever. As far as remembering more password and worrying about brain fog, you only have to remember the last 4 digits of your SSN. That's it. Plus you stated that if you save more money you might travel more and put more miles on your coach. And, this is a bad thing??
As a side note I used my TSD card yesterday at a TA Truck Stop near Savannah, GA just off exit 87 on I-95. Their retail pricing was $2.79 credit. I paid $2.32 via my TSD card.
Andrew you just really need to try it for yourself. Right now I just think your logic is faulty.
I guess Andy qualifies as a hater then using that logic.
I am a huge fan of Gas Buddy, it has saved me a lot on long trips to see my uncle in Yuma. If I drove a lot to make money, it would be worth it for the discount cards.
As a full timer and having a 200 gallon fuel tank, this card is a no brainer to me. Call it pennies or what ever, but money in my pocket is alright with me! I fueled up this morning coming out of TN to Florida and my fuel bill at the pump was $250. I have not received my bill from them yet, but should have it tomorrow and it will tell me how much they took and what my total cost was. According to their app, since I was at a TA truck stop, I will save approximately .62 cents a gallon. Again, it varies from station to station and also the state you are in, but all I have to do is look on the app on my phone and pick the station I wish to go for the best savings. A no brainer for us! Oh, never made a dime on this either by telling someone else to get this card and mention my name. On average we travel approximately 12 to 15k a year!
I've found value in the TSD program, but agree it may not be worth saving a few hunded bucks. I don't do any of the referals (as like you I don't like dealing with referal marketing or asking friends to buy something). However, since we travel 12-15,000 miles a year I've saved somewhere around $3,000 using the card in two years. I figure out the biggest discount (.80 cents or more) and work those as my fuel stops into my itinerary (This year the biggest discount was at T/A). I don't spend more than 10 minutes setting up my fuel stops and feel it adds some piece of mind knowing where we will stop. Setting up the card tooks about 10 minutes and I use a dedicated bank account. Using the card requires you to enter a personal Id # at the pump, so I don't worry about someone getting the card an figuring that number out. I also find the commercial lanes easier to manuver in and out of with my tow vehicle and they pump quicker (and on both sides). Like I said, I agree with many of your points and am still a big fan. It just works for me and how we travel.
Ditto Andrew! Some small complicaters just not worth it. Requiring SS# is a personal issue 4 me. Also Cut Hundreds of Coupons and left them at home Every Time! I'm now Free from those things😂
I have a bank account left over from making a car loan payment. I could have gone down to the bank and closed the account, but I'm lazy. Instead, I used it for a TSD fuel card to avoid going into the store each fueling (why no pay at the pump at truck stops!!??). It's got a few dollars in it and I can transfer money in as needed. Without it, I probably wouldn't have done this. As a commercial driver doing 500-700 miles a day, it's a no brainer. My next door neighbor loves it! As an RVer, it's less value. The referral is also not worth much since it requires a pretty large amount of purchases before it gives up $25. Maybe if all your friends were truckers?
I think Andrew is spot-on, as usual.
Good info. I heard about TSD for fuel savings...had no idea they require your SS# and YOUR checking account number. Ah...nope, nope and nope. In law enforcement cyber section...CC is the safest way! Not checking card OR checking account number. Thanks for the info!!!! Will stick with the individual gas station cards (Pilot, Speedway, Loves, etc). Keep up the videos!!! Thanks and safe travels!
Nice hat. Thank you for not going for that multi level marketing,... I agree with your thoughts you shared. Happy trails!
Andrew I tend to agree with you I do have an account at a commercial wholesale company in my area which is tied to a national network. The facilities that are available with the company I am with allow me tons of space for the maneuverability high flow pumps and never a line or a hassle getting in and out of a public truckstop. I am very willing to pay two or three more cents per gallon to have the convenience of not having to fight the crowds such as at a Costco. Thomyt
I don’t agree with your conclusion however you bring up valid points to consider. Should have a diesel Rig that allows for high capacity fueling. Also there are curtain times of day when commercial lanes are too busy at the deepest discount stations. All programs have restrictions. It’s a everybody wins situation your participation allows for TSD to make money also.
Gas Buddy and a Wexfuel card, they take it everywhere i've stopped and its good for gas or diesel, its Pin number protected and Ive found them to be very responsive about problems like losing the card
I'm 100% behind you on this one Andrew......charge it and pay it off at the end of the month. Less headaches.....
Love the hat!!
I totally agree with you Andrew not worth all the aggravation to save $400 a year if you’re lucky…
That's understandable Andrew, € thanks for sharing, Love your videos btw, have a great day!
I agree Andrew, I don't put enough miles on to mess with the saving/loyalty card except for the Fred Meyers card here in the Pacific Northwest. I agree the Loves & Pilots are convenient, but many push the B20 Bio fuel not #2 diesel. I do look for Indian Casino fuel stations to save the Federal Fuel tax if on my way.
I am with you. If I happen to see a coupon great but I hate having to worry if I have a coupon or not
I drive 55k year savings $0.50/gallon, no risk with ACH because only put gas money in the account, love you did this video, agree not right for you but my mileage makes it a no brainer and huge savings
Okay, I am going to weigh in on this. Andrew is correct! I use gas buddy when traveling and found thet the inflated prices on the signs and pumpp is a farce! Sam's club and others beat the discounted prices HANDS DOWN!
Wrong!
I drive high miles. I use the card to get in and out of truck stops without going in. Very fast. High flow nozzles. Don’t have to deal with the cars. That alone is worth it. TSD requires two factor authentication. Swipe card. Enter personal code. Cannot use it without both so if you lose it it’s useless to somebody else.
Not to pile on (and I enjoy most of your videos) but aren’t you the guy who spends a couple of hours producing a 15 minute video that generates 15,000 views and $75 from TH-cam but you are scoffing at TSD users who save $75 per fill with a negative time investment (saves about 10 minutes) all while they save hassle at the pump?
With as many coaches and gallons Kyle buys, I am sure he has given you priceless advice on this 👍
Kyle does not use and fuel programs. I rode in one of his buses last year
@@RVingwithAndrewSteele ; that is all the proof I would need. I know my company gets 0.45 cents rebates off the pump at select big chains I won’t name. But we have a fleet of over 800 trucks running across and America. Safe travels out there !!
Credit card give cash back too without accessing your bank account and protect against fraudulent charges which we get several times over the years just after we use in gas station.
New subscriber love the channel. I’ve also been wondering about whether the TSD’s are worth my time. I enjoyed the video.
I’m with you Andrew I watch who I give my personal information to, thanks for posting. Heading to Happy Trails this week to look at a place, thoughts?
My Comdata card saves me anywhere from.50 cents to almost 2.00 off a gallon. It depends on how you set your account up I preload my card before heading out and that’s the money I spend on fuel only. I can use the card anywhere it has a MasterCard logo on it. But I do get where your coming from with adding another account
I think you need to do a bit more research on this... this is not a multi level marketing scheme. Many truck companies use this company to manage their fleets. Its quite simple to get around the bank account risk, open a bank account specifically for TSD, only put money in it when you are ready to buy fuel. Its very simple and safe. Certainly you have to determine what works best for you. Some folks do not like to go into the truck stops, then this is definitely not the card for you.
The only thing I can say is it technically does not save you as much if you compare to regular stations, but it allows you to pull into a roomy truck stop with your rig towing a trailer etc and not have to fight all the people at the local Wal-mart gas station.
I have a TSD for 2 years now.. no issues, and great fuel prices, they are usually cheaper than the local stations even.
Andrew can you send me a close up picture of your steps inside of your Rv. The finish and fit really look nice. Thank you
Check out my video video titled 30,000 rv remodel
Daryl he has to send you a couple pictures...see the steps fell off.
I appreciate your integrity Andrew. I'm not a fan of that system either. The stations where you can use the TSC, PTS, OBG, card are usually more expensive than the fueling station right across the street. So are you really saving anything? It also, like you said, adds another level of personal accounting to stay on top of it.
Very very true. Risking becoming an victim of fraudulent activity for 30 cents per gallon, it's not worth it. Also, I will purchase an motorhome I can afford, including amount of fuel and maintenance it requires.
God love ya. I disagreed with everything you said. LOL.
"Just because this program does not work for me, doesn't mean it won't work for you"
@@RVingwithAndrewSteele It’s all good.
With you Andrew, any place that is not a financial institution does not need my SS#, red flag!
Kind of sounds like a rant because you don't want to go to the trouble to do the effort required. No issues - it is good to hear the opinion of others who aren't out there pimping the finder's fee for getting others to sign up. Me? I'm not a full timer and I pull a 28-ft travel trailer with a diesel pick-up with a 33-gal tank getting 16Mpg when towing (but as low as 8Mpg in the mountains or in stiff headwinds). The savings just aren't significant enough to use it, and I have found that RVs are not always welcome in the trucking lanes. So, if my "someday" comes and we hit the road full time in a fuel-thirsty Class A, then yeah we may look into whatever might exist at that time.
I use to hunt for bargains and I find my time is worth more than the paltry savings, in the end it balances out 👍🏼
Simplify your life. Get a rewards card through your bank and everything goes on there. One card for your entire life months spending. I have gotten more trips and more cash backs, etc and so on for massive points that are all controlled by you. Use anywhere and not be controlled by anything. Great points Andrew. Also , I do agree with some comments. But more fun to see those test drives. Now get out there. And drive every RV you can get your hands on. Lol
I am just wondering if you would tell all your viewers how much you got pay for TH-cam thanks Kevin 💙💙💙💙
I think fair to point out TSD needs ss# because they are extending credit to us just like any credit card, btw my credit card and all utilities ach from checking also
Hey Andrew, I assume you wouldn't review an RV without test driving it. Give it a try, interview someone from the company before knocking it. Thousands of truckers and RVers use it. They can't all be wrong. Convenience driving a huge rig is a bonus. Would you drive through a small town with a huge RV just to find the cheapest fuel?? I think not
Always like to hear your point of view!
I hear you regarding the direct draft concern .. we all should worry about that and decide accordingly. However, the title of this episode is tripping over dollars to save pennies. Did I miss the segment where you identified the dollars we are tripping over??
Great content. Too bad you didn’t get the “experts” opinions prior to posting. Love hearing people’s reasons why/why not to do things.
Time to have a little fun and do a video on one of your hobbies? Fishing? Go-cart racing bird watching 👀?
Happy new year, can't wait to have you up on the north end of the flathead for a BBQ...
Agreed, cash is always king
Andrew this video has me smdh. First , different passwords, not sure I get that. I use TSD and I had my bank setup another checking account just for this card. The account doesn't have overdraft protection which means it's not connected to any of my other accounts. When I log into my main checking account, I see all my accounts including the one for TSD. I use the same userid and password, nothing changed. If you use the TSD app, that's an additional userid/password. If you have an iphone, you can use the FaceID so you only have to enter it once.
I do get the SSN concerns. Everytime you finance something (ie; RV) you're giving a complete stranger your SSN number. When you leave that office, you have no clue what that person might do with your SSN. Just don't think the SSN argument holds much value when you consider how often a SSN is used. In the banking industry, there are so many breaches, one additional account that has my SSN doesn't bother me to the point of not getting the TSD card but I do worry about all the breaches in general.
Happy new year ❣️❣️❣️
Greets from Berlin /Germany
Ramsi 😘
You make good points.
Keep it simple.
Social security number... what? (That would have been a deal breaker for me)
Fraud recourse?
Open Access to your account? (Why don't you leave him some signed blank checks while you're at it)
God bless you for not caring about saving $500. There’s an ass for every seat. What a great country we live in. FREEDOM.
So harsh
@@Baxtersbrain101 but so true
I agree Andrew there is no way in h##l I would be giving my SIN # (canadian) and access to my chequing account to any retail outlet. Red flag is exactly correct! Just like you said, how does one fight too much taken out of your account by accident? Secondly, relying that there computer system doesn’t get breached, with access to your SIN, it’s instant identity theft. Not worth it for me either, lol. Cheers 🍻
You said you use a credit card instead of your debit, so I'm not sure if you know, but you can use your debit card either as debit or as a credit card. And if there's a charge on your card that you didn't do your bank will put the money back into your account within so many hours and overnight you a new card, and it doesn't matter if you used it as a debit or as a credit card.
I just looked at my investment account and noticed the $800 I purchased in fuel last month on my credit card earned me $300 before I had to pay the CC bill with no risk of draining my entire bank account!
you could just open a seperate account and keep only funds for fuel in with a small amount just to keep it open that would take probably a phone call or quick bank visit and like your last trip i think you said you spent 1200 on fuel you could save quite a few bucks
I get it, and getting my number and access to my account is a no go zone. Just me, but I agree.
I know more than one person who has had their checking account drained for one reason or another. When you mentioned they wanted your checking account and Social Security number that was enough for me. This time in our country with people out of work scammers are having a field day. Pay with credit card, and then pay the credit card off. Just my two cents...........
I think you are way off base on this one.
The huge time saver others pointed out is the truck lanes, just scan and go. I think it is safer then a credit card you need to put in a passcode at the pump.
You don’t need to use the discounted locations if they are not convenient.
I’ve set up a free checking account for fuel. I fund it when I travel. I use the card. I’ve never made a dime on referrals. I know a few who have been in higher places (clubs) that made that money. I agree you should not do that less you catch hell out here. Works for me
Come on Man, lol how much time does it take to put in a code to save money. You make it sound like your going out of your way to get the fuel at 4:32 you say your getting cheaper fuel so you would just keep on going LOL WHAT? lol if your traveling your putting miles on your motor coach regardless. Then you say if you don't use the fuel cards your not putting more wear and tear on your coach? LOL Seriously who has time to make up all these scenarios of a what IF situation you could have signed up in this amount of time lol Great video Andrew