Clever clever man, you can tell he’s done that many times, no thinking just did it. Not many people in the world can do this type of work, it’s all formed ready and waiting on a shelf. Pleasure to see a master craftsman at work.
Nonsense it’s shit work , there is no way in the world that will still be there in a years . The first bit of movement and it will crack and fall off .
As another bricklayer in the UK. He has made that look very easy and it’s certainly not. So much patience and skill involved. True craftsman. I hope he’s getting paid well, he deserves it. Nice one mate
I just DIY redid my houae and repointed the fireplace as well as did some rendering. As a DIYer it was a steep learning curve for me and alot of practice to even get smooth clean pointing. Respect on the skill and care, i wish my builders paid my built about half that much attention.
Show de bola! Arte pura e espetacular! Faz os vídeos ensinando tudo passo a passo pra gente comprar meu brother! Parabéns pelo seu trabalho. É uma verdadeira obra de arte. 👏👏👍👍👍
Mis respetos para estos señores artistas del cemento. Son muy bonitos los detalles que con tanta paciencia elaboran. Dios los bendiga con fortaleza, salud y sabiduría.
*QUEDÉ MARAVILLADO JAMÁS VI NI IMAGINÉ COMO HACÍAN LAS MOLDURAS EN LAS CONSTRUCCIONES Y DE VERDAD QUEDÉ IMPRESIONADO AL VER LA CAPACIDAD QUE PUSO DIOS EN LA MENTE HUMANA PARA CREAR ALGO TAN HERMOSO DESDE CHILE MIS MÁS SINCERAS FELICITACIONES PARA TI ERES MUY BUENO EN TU OFICIO GRACIAS POR DEJARNOS VER TÚ TALENTO GRACIAS POR ESTAR EN TH-cam ERES UN GRAN CONSTRUCTOR*
Hernan Molina mira amigo no se enque pais sea pero el maestro se la rifa es como desimos en mexico el detaye pero en otros paises esas molduras ya bienen eschas y este maestro se la rifo a mano
EL CHINO 36 M *ESO LO TENGO MÁS QUE CLARO LA INDUSTRIALIZACIÓN A FABRICADO TODO Y ESO A HECHO DESAPARECER A MUCHOS MAESTROS. CUANDO VI TRABAJAR A ESTE HOMBRE ME TRANSPORTE EN EL TIEMPO. IMAGINA TODO LO QUE SE HIZO EN LOS TIEMPOS ANTIGUOS CON SOLO HERRAMIENTAS RUDIMENTARIAS, PURO CEREBRO Y LAS MANOS DE AQUELLOS QUE AÚN NOS IMPRESIONAN CON SU OBRA EN CONSTRUCCIONES ANTIGUAS*
WOW!!! What a great art work! I'll give everything to have at least 50% of his skills! Just looking at the hands of this man, at the way he moves, you realize that perfection is achieved after many years of hard work. CHAPEAU 🎩
Young Tang A day? Wow they would get more than that an hr over here, not many people would have the knowledge of that type of work here, most of that sort of work is pre fabricated and cemented or glued on
Young Tang nope. $2/hour is the wage for the most basic builder only. For this level, it can be... twice. Still not so much. Anyway Vietnamese builders has unbelievable skills. This kind of work is pretty usual.
As a 3rd generation mason. Watching this guy do what masons use to do and use to be known for was absolutely amazing. Keep doing what you do and I hope your passing along your skills to the younger generation.
this was bad ass to watch man. i didnt know people could do this by hand with cement. i always thought it was a mold and you pour cement into it. this was awesome.
Dwight Rapp i see, coz here in my country. We're still doing this kind of method. Hehe, ddnt know this was so outdated having said that youre a 3rd generation mason
When i did my first restoration with things like that I proved to my self that ive got the Skill🤪 and that was the best official job ive ever had it taught me that i can carve the stone to and make statues so i already know what im going to enjoy when ill get old 😋 ill be doing clases about the lost skill and how ancestors build all those incredible creations even at the top of the mountains. Ps its way more simple then it looks 🙂 ones u get the idea things becomes simple 😀
Very precision work!! Very much time need this mason work! You have very much mason experience!! How much years ago you work this? 15-20 years ago? Who teached you? School mason?
Это работа лентяя...мастер делает шаблон и без погрешностей в размерах делает любое изделие....это опыт прораба ... а тут заснята халтура где разбег в размерах и геометрии изделия ..реальны.
Very nice work and skill but very time consuming. It's okay for just a few pieces. But if your doing a- lot of this trim it would be wise to make a mold.
im not so sure... for a couple of pillars, it might actully be cheaper and easier for him to solid plaster them like this than to organise order pay pick up fix (drill cut and patch) That video went for 12 mins at probably 2x speed.... so it took him lets say 30minutes to do that... in a 8 hour day thats 16 pillars... (probably a good day..lets say he could do 14) thats pretty good... no dragging drills or saws screws and no pick ups.. if he was working for me and did 14 in a day for $300 for a days work and a bag of cement... id be pretty friggin happy with him.
R Adams, I know, I have applied them myself but still, you can buy cheap machine made products or have far more valuable ones handmade on demand. I don't think people with a lot of money want cheap foam in their house.
Michael1313 can you be specific in what you mean? Do you mean that foam molding is not available or that the video does not show molding being hand made with mortar?
esos envidiosos que dicen que hacen sus tarrajas y lo hacen mas rapido y si se mas rapido por que yo tambien uso molduras y tambien hago mis tarrajas pero en lo que hacen sus tarrajas por lo menos este maestro ya le lleva minimo dos de estos acabados
Olha gostei do trabalho lindo;mas me desculpas se vc vim trabalhar aqui em minas com estes trab me desculpas aqui não valoriza e nem paga o que é merecido ;porisso muitos sai daqui e vai a outros países para ser valorizados. Mas parabéns Deus o abençoe sempre seu trabalho.👏👏👏👏
Pura verdade Silvana, eu fui cement renderer na Australia, os trabalhos que eu fazia eram bem similares ao do video acima, depois de ter adqquirido muita pratica no reboco artistico cheguei ao salario de 350,00 dolares por dia. Aqui no Brasil construo uma casa p a minha mae no estilo Ingles. Me perguntam: Para que fazer isso? vc tem tempo de sobra.:(.Agora quero voltar se Deus quiser
mark dwyer I believe it's a sand and cement mix most likely a 1/1. As its purely an architectural accoutrement and is fully supported along the bottom and side so the strength requirements are relatively low. That said, a simple sand and cement mixture at the proper ratios can give compressive strengths well in excess of 2kps. Please note , the cure process is the most important element of concern here not the compressive strength as a good cure will leave a product that is resistant to water erosion and infiltration. After a 7 day water cure I'd recommend a sealer/hardening agent for a product that will far outlive that Driscoll fella.
HEISEN BERG сам иногда занимаюсь реставрацией, есть вопросы по армированию, шаблон дело конечно хорошее, сдесь само мастерство и техника исполнения на высоте!
Вячеслав Рокало. На самом деле, такие изделия делаются с помощью "тяг" и быстрее и точнее. Думаю такая техника не сложна в освоении но пригодна для коротких расстояний. Лет 20 назад, делали ремонт в старом доме, где были комнаты по 30-50 кв/м, и потолками 4м. Там были такие фризы между потолком и стенами в сечении где-то 400×250мм. Были установленны новые перегородки и нужно было востановить фризы на новых стенах. До этого, подобного ничего не делали. Взял какой-то старый строительный учебник, почитал, изготовил за час тягу и за небольшое время, сейчас уже и не помню за сколько но не долго, изготовил метров 30 таких фризов с очень приличным качеством и без особых сложностей! Стоят по сей день без дефектов.
Yes, a stencil or template fastened to a wooden board sort of thing. That's the classical way to do it, i've learnt that too. But i must say, this was not bad. I've never seen someoen use a paint brush on mortar before .. but it seemed to work well. This looks like some kind of special mortar. It is kind of strange that he doesn't pre-moisture the existing cement before adding mortar to it either .. it would dry up very quickly and crack. But it seems to be working well.
"You are a Master. This Level of molding construction requires great skill. Much respect to you." 👍
Incredible, the hands of the skillful sculptor, I will definitely make a video about sculpting Goku using sand and cement, stay tuned!
Clever clever man, you can tell he’s done that many times, no thinking just did it. Not many people in the world can do this type of work, it’s all formed ready and waiting on a shelf. Pleasure to see a master craftsman at work.
Absolutely right
Nonsense it’s shit work , there is no way in the world that will still be there in a years . The first bit of movement and it will crack and fall off .
Bro I do this in Pakistan and it will not fall for 100 year's
Какой он тебе клевер?) сам ты клевер клевер
He did it twice as fast as anyone else.
This man is NOT a construction worker…………he is an artist!
Yes, is an artist. You're right.
A true master at this.....
He is not a "simple" day laborer; he is indeed an "expert" craftsman! !
Incredible, the hands of the skillful sculptor, I will definitely make a video about sculpting Goku using sand and cement, stay tuned!
I love how it says "construction worker". It should say ARTIST. Beautiful craftsmanship
As a bricklayer here in the UK this is an absolute treat to see such care and skill!
It takes lots of time
As another bricklayer in the UK. He has made that look very easy and it’s certainly not. So much patience and skill involved. True craftsman. I hope he’s getting paid well, he deserves it. Nice one mate
I totally agree
I just DIY redid my houae and repointed the fireplace as well as did some rendering.
As a DIYer it was a steep learning curve for me and alot of practice to even get smooth clean pointing.
Respect on the skill and care, i wish my builders paid my built about half that much attention.
Ripper36068 te
Show de bola! Arte pura e espetacular! Faz os vídeos ensinando tudo passo a passo pra gente comprar meu brother! Parabéns pelo seu trabalho. É uma verdadeira obra de arte. 👏👏👍👍👍
Simply great! A master 👏👏👏
Why would you thumbs down this. Haters gonna hate. This dude is legit.
Mis respetos para estos señores artistas del cemento.
Son muy bonitos los detalles que con tanta paciencia elaboran.
Dios los bendiga con fortaleza, salud y sabiduría.
*QUEDÉ MARAVILLADO JAMÁS VI NI IMAGINÉ COMO HACÍAN LAS MOLDURAS EN LAS CONSTRUCCIONES Y DE VERDAD QUEDÉ IMPRESIONADO AL VER LA CAPACIDAD QUE PUSO DIOS EN LA MENTE HUMANA PARA CREAR ALGO TAN HERMOSO DESDE CHILE MIS MÁS SINCERAS FELICITACIONES PARA TI ERES MUY BUENO EN TU OFICIO GRACIAS POR DEJARNOS VER TÚ TALENTO GRACIAS POR ESTAR EN TH-cam ERES UN GRAN CONSTRUCTOR*
Hernan Molina mira amigo no se enque pais sea pero el maestro se la rifa es como desimos en mexico el detaye pero en otros paises esas molduras ya bienen eschas y este maestro se la rifo a mano
EL CHINO 36 M
*ESO LO TENGO MÁS QUE CLARO LA INDUSTRIALIZACIÓN A FABRICADO TODO Y ESO A HECHO DESAPARECER A MUCHOS MAESTROS. CUANDO VI TRABAJAR A ESTE HOMBRE ME TRANSPORTE EN EL TIEMPO. IMAGINA TODO LO QUE SE HIZO EN LOS TIEMPOS ANTIGUOS CON SOLO HERRAMIENTAS RUDIMENTARIAS, PURO CEREBRO Y LAS MANOS DE AQUELLOS QUE AÚN NOS IMPRESIONAN CON SU OBRA EN CONSTRUCCIONES ANTIGUAS*
That’s a man that takes pride in his work. An extremely hard worker.
Настоящая лепка.Супер,Молодец...
I've been plastering for 35yrs and I would struggle doing that fair play to him👍
WOW!!! What a great art work! I'll give everything to have at least 50% of his skills! Just looking at the hands of this man, at the way he moves, you realize that perfection is achieved after many years of hard work. CHAPEAU 🎩
What a great skill there, I hope you teach this to the young ones, you cant do that on an ipad 😂 you are a true craftsman well done 👍🇦🇺
Just Flicking yes you can. I'm sure kids are watching this on their iPad
Young Tang A day? Wow they would get more than that an hr over here, not many people would have the knowledge of that type of work here, most of that sort of work is pre fabricated and cemented or glued on
ak0792 hahaha I’m sure they do
Just Flicking l
Young Tang nope. $2/hour is the wage for the most basic builder only. For this level, it can be... twice. Still not so much.
Anyway Vietnamese builders has unbelievable skills. This kind of work is pretty usual.
Got a feeling that this guy has done this a few times before. Totally outstanding workmanship.
Great skill there, with accuracy ...bravo👍
I was always curious to know how these column details were made ... wonderful video ... the guy is a real artist ... that's a designer
U should know that most pillars have the base premade.
É o que chamo de a arte de construir. Parabéns! !!
Incredible, the hands of the skillful sculptor, I will definitely make a video about sculpting Goku using sand and cement, stay tuned!
Wonderful. Great craft. Nice result
Wunderbar. Tolles Handwerk. Schönes Ergebnis.
Pure talent
Супер малодцы👍👍👍👋😀
As a Renderer ,seeing this level of skill with mud is amazing . Well done that is skill .
As a 3rd generation mason. Watching this guy do what masons use to do and use to be known for was absolutely amazing. Keep doing what you do and I hope your passing along your skills to the younger generation.
this was bad ass to watch man. i didnt know people could do this by hand with cement. i always thought it was a mold and you pour cement into it. this was awesome.
Dwight Rapp whats a 3rd generation mason, sir?
3 generations of my family have been doing masonry.
3rg generation Mason my ass
Dwight Rapp i see, coz here in my country. We're still doing this kind of method. Hehe, ddnt know this was so outdated having said that youre a 3rd generation mason
Молодец! Очень хорошая работа! 👍👍👍
Tehnikny sama seperti saya ..mantap sekali kang ...salam cirebon jawa barat
Um verdadeiro artista! Parabéns!!
Uma verdadeira arte!
Muito bom,são poucos os que ainda fazem obras como essa.
Alô alo Brasil!!👍
I hope that he was paid for his skill level. Amazing.
Maestro!!! Felicitaciones muy bonito trabajo
Bravo; superbe travail .Félicitations!!!!!
Esse não é um pedreiro...esse é um artista... parabéns...
When i did my first restoration with things like that I proved to my self that ive got the Skill🤪 and that was the best official job ive ever had it taught me that i can carve the stone to and make statues so i already know what im going to enjoy when ill get old 😋 ill be doing clases about the lost skill and how ancestors build all those incredible creations even at the top of the mountains. Ps its way more simple then it looks 🙂 ones u get the idea things becomes simple 😀
Very nices job👏👏👏
Brilliant 👍👏👏👏
Damn! He's an ARTIST! Can he come to MY house?!!!
Esse aí é um verdadeiro profissional
Ejdmflel
É vd. Um posicional
that felt good watching that
Maxkil
Mexican Art.
Haha whatsup Cousin, Tebor says hi bro...lol. Hes working on his new video.
Very good
Anda a cagar frijolero, este tipo es cambodiano, no es mexicano..!
Wauuu elook niaaan jadinyooo😮
Respekt! Solche Menschen gibt es leider wenig. Meisterhaft!
Now that is some serious art work !!
Parabéns e uma obra de arte.
Maestro . Felicitaciones.
sergio zerpa tan huevón, hubiera hecho una plantilla.
Great job and amaxing skills. May the younger generations in this field be like you. God bless you and the work of your hands.
Bagus sekali hasilnya 👍👍👍
I bet if it wasn't for this video, the owner of that house would ask: why is it taking you so long?
Mantap👍!!! trimakasih admin atas berbagi ilmunya?!
Magnífico, belo trabalho
Super nice video ,nice design,have a nice day to all construction workers ,good health,
Very precision work!! Very much time need this mason work! You have very much mason experience!! How much years ago you work this? 15-20 years ago? Who teached you? School mason?
Muito belo seu trabalho.👍👍👍
Я такого ещё не видела! Здорово! 👍
Lele4ka146 классный мастер
Это работа лентяя...мастер делает шаблон и без погрешностей в размерах делает любое изделие....это опыт прораба ... а тут заснята халтура где разбег в размерах и геометрии изделия ..реальны.
Beautiful. I had to do it when I was plastering I loved it.
With 2 x 3inches curves, one concave and one convex? Lol sure you would. Smh
@@baldbearded9601 what you getting at ?
A wonderful demonstration of artistic work!
Very nice work lots of skill and passion .
You're an artist like this much. I admire you.
Very nice work and skill but very time consuming. It's okay for just a few pieces. But if your doing a- lot of this trim it would be wise to make a mold.
gfs316. Yeah. A mould made of fiberglass can do this job much faster. This skill is to be appreciated though. ..
Molds are for the weak \[T]/
I do such that kind of work but I use molds and I design it by myself .using molds is faster and corners and curves are more vivid and accurate .
im not so sure... for a couple of pillars, it might actully be cheaper and easier for him to solid plaster them like this than to organise order pay pick up fix (drill cut and patch) That video went for 12 mins at probably 2x speed.... so it took him lets say 30minutes to do that... in a 8 hour day thats 16 pillars... (probably a good day..lets say he could do 14) thats pretty good... no dragging drills or saws screws and no pick ups.. if he was working for me and did 14 in a day for $300 for a days work and a bag of cement... id be pretty friggin happy with him.
Job satisfaction.
Super bro.
Sk Iklak Azad. zero without you people i
Я сам делал и знаю что сделать форму и по нему пройти так гораздо легче
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Superb. He is an artist. 💙💚💛💜💙💚💛💜
FABULOSO ESO ADORNO DE ALBAÑILERIA..... GENIAL... LA VOY A PRACTICAR,,,, ESO TRABAJO TAN BONITO,,, SALUDO DESDE CHILE
Great skill just don't tell him they make moulding out of foam now.
The next time your around modern construction try tapping on these areas and you'll see.
R Adams, I know, I have applied them myself but still, you can buy cheap machine made products or have far more valuable ones handmade on demand. I don't think people with a lot of money want cheap foam in their house.
R Adams but is not strong cement endure 10 times more
Rich people do not want foam
Michael1313 can you be specific in what you mean? Do you mean that foam molding is not available or that the video does not show molding being hand made with mortar?
nice job
esos envidiosos que dicen que hacen sus tarrajas y lo hacen mas rapido y si se mas rapido por que yo tambien uso molduras y tambien hago mis tarrajas pero en lo que hacen sus tarrajas por lo menos este maestro ya le lleva minimo dos de estos acabados
Así es yo también lo hago con tarraja y tambien es una chinguita hacerlas pero este trabajo que hace este señor está excelente para mi
amazing job bos❤❤
เก่งจังครับสุดยอดศิลปะ👍👍
Nota 10 gostei
Muito lindo, que fantástico, amei,
16.08.21.
Wonderful job,you are fantastic
Sangat rumit, namun menghasilkan karya yang sangat luar biasa dan mantap 👍
Realmente um artista. Parabens!!
Isso não é para qualquer um!!
Perfeito PARABENS MIL VEZES!!!
Give that man a raise
Great work 👍
Nice work, masterpiece. :-)
Amazing👍👍👍👍
Louvável teu trabalho. Parabéns 👏👏
Mais Amigo Games II
Wow, great work mate
Excellent work brother
Olha gostei do trabalho lindo;mas me desculpas se vc vim trabalhar aqui em minas com estes trab me desculpas aqui não valoriza e nem paga o que é merecido ;porisso muitos sai daqui e vai a outros países para ser valorizados. Mas parabéns Deus o abençoe sempre seu trabalho.👏👏👏👏
Pura verdade Silvana, eu fui cement renderer na Australia, os trabalhos que eu fazia eram bem similares ao do video acima, depois de ter adqquirido muita pratica no reboco artistico cheguei ao salario de 350,00 dolares por dia. Aqui no Brasil construo uma casa p a minha mae no estilo Ingles. Me perguntam: Para que fazer isso? vc tem tempo de sobra.:(.Agora quero voltar se Deus quiser
Tem que pegar so serviço em condomínio pra valer a pena
@@pedraobr serviço leva 10 minutos no isopor, e na massa o caboco ae levou 3 dias.
@@dudubrodie .
@@voce1569 na massa fica 💯 pró cento bom no zupro não fica garantido
Skillful man. Seriously impressed.
This is an art and skilled hands. Beautiful work!
Great job
What is the mix that that is getting youes
mark dwyer I believe it's a sand and cement mix most likely a 1/1. As its purely an architectural accoutrement and is fully supported along the bottom and side so the strength requirements are relatively low. That said, a simple sand and cement mixture at the proper ratios can give compressive strengths well in excess of 2kps. Please note , the cure process is the most important element of concern here not the compressive strength as a good cure will leave a product that is resistant to water erosion and infiltration. After a 7 day water cure I'd recommend a sealer/hardening agent for a product that will far outlive that Driscoll fella.
Steve Voegtlin, some great info Steve. Sounds like you know your onions
It’s mortar mix with line and fine sand and it will last
Was that a mortar mix with line and fine sand or Portland with lime and sand?
Michael1313 michael what is ya, not hip to it.
Nj Rh thanks, thought that was a possible Asian word. Google translated to no avail. Great display of using minimal materials to get maximum results.
Richard Driskill I think you're right. He's polished that so much I doubt there's any cement left. First frost and it'll be on the floor.
👍😎 👏👏👏
Good job🥰
Good job is very beautiful I like it
Хотел бы я поработать у этого мастера подсобным рабочим!
Руки у него конечно растут откуда надо. Но это можно было сделать проще- при помощи шаблона.
HEISEN BERG сам иногда занимаюсь реставрацией, есть вопросы по армированию, шаблон дело конечно хорошее, сдесь само мастерство и техника исполнения на высоте!
пот такие и строили мечети,которым нет цены и равных
Вячеслав Рокало. На самом деле, такие изделия делаются с помощью "тяг" и быстрее и точнее. Думаю такая техника не сложна в освоении но пригодна для коротких расстояний. Лет 20 назад, делали ремонт в старом доме, где были комнаты по 30-50 кв/м, и потолками 4м. Там были такие фризы между потолком и стенами в сечении где-то 400×250мм. Были установленны новые перегородки и нужно было востановить фризы на новых стенах. До этого, подобного ничего не делали. Взял какой-то старый строительный учебник, почитал, изготовил за час тягу и за небольшое время, сейчас уже и не помню за сколько но не долго, изготовил метров 30 таких фризов с очень приличным качеством и без особых сложностей! Стоят по сей день без дефектов.
sería mejor con una tarraja!
Existem vários trabalhadores em todo mundo, alguns artistas , mas mestres ,a quantidades são bem menores
jair sales .
Verdade amigão 👍🇧🇷
Vdd
@@VEMCOMOZEIAS sigh
As shh
@@stathisliakas5964 xxn
You can make a mold with a piece of sheet metal, throw cement and go over it several times.
it is faster. Even though, very nice job
Yes, a stencil or template fastened to a wooden board sort of thing. That's the classical way to do it, i've learnt that too. But i must say, this was not bad. I've never seen someoen use a paint brush on mortar before .. but it seemed to work well. This looks like some kind of special mortar. It is kind of strange that he doesn't pre-moisture the existing cement before adding mortar to it either .. it would dry up very quickly and crack. But it seems to be working well.
Quel artiste 💪,bravo 👏🍾
Nice work 👌
I'd make a former from plywood. That was a lot of messing about. Nice to watch though.
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Como Se faz Artesanato e Reciclagem. هههههه
Como Se faz Artesanato e Reciclagem. *Oi minha deusa*
KIM JONG UN .oi.hi.😄
حسام الرسام 😄
Piece of cake!! Chingon paisano
Euxncmxlc
mantul banget sukses slalu amin..
Incredible, the hands of the skillful sculptor, I will definitely make a video about sculpting Goku using sand and cement, stay tuned!
That was a good job imagine trying to do that in hard granet collums like the Egyptians did they looked polished finished to a gloss !
All chisel work out of one solid piece of granite
Wan
Seria mais facil aplicar uma argamassa e pegar uma forma de fazer moldura de gesso e passar sentido horizontal levaria apenas 2 minutos kkkk
Думаю что нож шаблон хоть из оргстекла было бы быстрее раз так в десять
Татьяна Доценко была бы нетакая прочная масса он её затерает послойное
Татьяна Доценко в Кобрине можно научиться всему
Татьяна Доценко
indo hadir mantap ...!!!