The Drama on Spiritual TikTok Has Utterly Lost The Plot
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New age spirituality does not teach humility as a core value that’s why people on TikTok are exhibiting this spiritual narcissism.
Its not a matter of humility. Its a matter of spirituality in general. Magical thinking is never a good idea if you don't want people to behave irrationally.
TikTok is a fundamentally narcissist platform.
It teaches that you are in total control of everything that happens to you in life. And their for everything that happens to you was your own choice. Sometimes this is true. But there are plenty of times when things are simply out of our control. And at such times, that kind of spirituality is not helpful.
I completely agree. Im almost 40 and have been doing this stuff since i was a child, and it never used to be like this. We always had weirdos who were larping, but it was never this bad.
Dorian, if you think you can safely talk about your experience with spiritual psychosis and the spirits that were messing with you, i think it would be a basis for a great, very important discussion about the dangers of new age spirituality and tiktok spirirualists like this who fall into serious delusions that need mental treatment instead of ( or along side) banishing rituals and protective magic
YES YES YESSSS
@@declanfraser9033 If you're talking about people having misconceptions about demons or spirits I agree but I didn't really get what you meant by your statement, I do agree that twin flames and what alot of new age spiritual people preach ( ex: the akashic records, starseed, shifting, light language and love and light) is bullshit that usually stems from cultural appropriation, personally I'm a theistic satanist as well as a practitioner of hoodoo and indigenous medicine so a lot of what I'm taught is bloodline based, as for the satanism side I make sure to date my recourses before Christian colonialism and persecution
And a lot of beliefs that are taught relating to light language and TikTok spirituality can make people spiral into a psychotic episode with spiritual ties which can be really hard to cure
Community is a beautiful thing, but sometimes hysterical groupthink can really twist the mind. It’s a shame.
There was lots of interesting videos but he removed them during the last purge!
As someone who struggles with schizoaffective disorder, I can say that I know that it's time to call the doc when I see synchronicities literally everywhere. I avoid spiritual stuff because it's straight up dangerous for someone with the disorders I have. I'm at a point where strict secular thinking has given me the ability to see delusions and hallucinations from a mile away and I can be proactive to mitigate harm to myself. I'm sure there's more out there than what we know of, but it's not for me to try to find.
could you talk more about this? i feel like i may experience a similar thing where i notice synchronicities and my friends always tell me it's nothing and im losing it over nothing, but i find it hard to get a hold of myself when im in it?? does that make sense
I don’t wanna put this to my name but I’ve had some mental health experiences and i found spirituality often opened up the same internal doors that psychosis entered through
I'm glad you've managed to lock down these patterns - it's not always easy to be so self-aware in these situations, and having a list of hard and fast 'if X starts happening, call doc' rules is so helpful! When things were bad with me, I had a whole flippin' list on my wall of typical ways delusions ran, I was just starting to work out the patterns so I could swerve the psychosis before it really sucked me in. The main rule I still remember was, 'If it seems crazy/impossible, that's because IT IS! - go talk to another human being, and get grounded'! I wish I still remembered all the other rules that helped me!
You don't have to give up the spiritual, as you are and have always been gaslit by colonialism and in their so called "medical" institutes of suppression and misery of entrapment and history of eugencs, and need to counter it with inuitive independant research and critical thinking and call it all out and raise awareness, or you enable the suffering?
And by the colonial indocrinated people/"puppets"?
"everyone wants to grow spiritually, but nobody is enlightened enough to just do the washing up...."
Some of us do
“Before enlightenment, chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment, chop wood, carry water.”
@@auggiet8380 Zen and the art of using pavlovian manipulation to persuade your house mate to empty the sink without added drama.... or at higher levels, even asking....
This is fact!💯❤️
Its a never ending process.
And I would guess most of these people on spiritual tiktok think they are enlightened and want to tell the world abt it. But before they notice it, ego is back controlling them and making them twist reality in what they want it to be.
I like how you said the voice of reason is 'deeply uncool' because that's EXACTLY how I have felt of late, existing within a quite spiritual community myself. Everyone is afraid to call a spade a spade, stop for a second and say hold on - IS this right or what. It's crazy, I agree because we're teetering on the edge of sanity , I mean people's LITERAL sanity here.
Honestly, I've been really pushed away from spirituality as of late, mostly due to a mix of astrology followers literally talking over me and reducing me to slightly traumatic stereotypes to fit me into my star chart signs, to a few family members who've gone down the path of a very easily demonstrated multi level marketing scam for their spiritual journey, that induces feel good energy by offering a tool to justify all their actions as right for them, including the harmful, unhealthy ones.
I feel like the community sorely needs the input of ethics as defined by the study of psychology. That each claim needs to go through a bit of a "does this tangibly, measurable harm someone in an unfair and unconstructive way?" filter before it gets made.
A lot of these people don't wanna hear that by chance the stuff isn't real. And in their head. It's just fucking stupid what they're doing.
"They hated him for speaking the truth"
Even in biblical times it was a known issue
@@lilpetz500 astrology isn't real. There are astrological influences, but today it is all about fear and negativity; they swear diseases, unattractiveness upon you, attempt to dictate relationships and career paths. It is so beyond insane to find a "stellar" way to frame another person as "unattractive", misguided, and controlling their life path. It's basically childish bullying painted as mystical wisdom. Instead of calling you "ugly", "inept", and manipulating your partner to break up with you - they tell you 'the stars are doing this, not me'.
The New Age started going off the deep-end around the late 2000s. There was the Hayhouse radio station which dominated the occult section at every mainstream bookstore. The crowds of people were originally there for therapy, then overtook the New Age movement and moved into witchcraft. Many insecure and lonely people found community in new age ideology, and they all became "psychics, angel therapists, tarot readers, and spiritual gurus". They're broken messes and that trauma refuses to allow you to tell them otherwise. Today the people that operate these groups were narcissists and mentally deranged people from the self-help generation; this isn't a question it's a fact. They don't like voices of reason because it means giving up decades of false hope and a sense of control and transcendence they assumed during their lowest points in life. It's an industry of mysticism and spiritual toys. Get out, get out.
The strangest brush I've had with something along the lines of spiritual psychosis happened after my girlfriend and I broke up. I woke up in the middle of the night and began believing she was an energy vampire. Like not metaphorically, I literally thought she was trying to drain me of my youth and it was terrifying. By the time I got up the next morning, I recognized it was probably not true, but still had moments where I believed it after that. I am so glad I didn't have people enabling me during this time. It would have been so much scarier if I had.
I had a panic attack in the middle of the night when I was younger that this reminds me of a little bit --- I thought there was poison gas in the house, and that I had to get out. I saw a neighbor had the TV on and I knocked on his door and asked him to call the police for me.
The things our minds can do to us, especially when we're not fully awake....
As someone who had a stalker who was not this spiritual, this is horrifying. My stalker had ‘dreams’ about me being ‘the one.’ It lasted 7 years and multiple restraining orders. His father was a wealthy lawyer so he got nothing but a slap on the wrist every time anything would happen at all. He had other victims, and right after I moved, he did something bad enoug to one of them that daddy cut him off financially and with legal help. He was put away on kidnapping and illegal weapon charges and he is still in prison, thankfully.
I have learned from this experience that stalkers rarely have only one victim. Some even have have more than one at a time, though they make you feel like you are their only obsession in life… almost like you are a drug. I would say that this woman needs to start with therapy. I don’t have an opinion on whether spiritual psychosis is real or not because I have not had that experience and I try not to form opinions until I have some sort of reason. But something is wrong here and someone else is now being hurt by it. I advocate waiting until you are ready if your symptoms are only affecting you because you have to be ready in order to do something. But a big indicator that it’s time for help is usually when your symptoms start causing harm. They actually have to have it pointed out to them and I think only a close person can do that.
Oof, your stalker experience sounds awful - 7 years?!! I hate that the justice system failed you and the other victims so badly...& yet, it doesn't seem an uncommon thing, with stalking charges :( Long may peace reign for you on that front!
oh! you are so not alone! Its good that you made it passed. Also restraining orders are nothing more than a challenge to a really messed up stalker.
@@iroselandI previously thought that but I regret not having a paper trail when I was stalked
Oh poor you! If you hadn't been stalked you'd have no stories to post .
@elypowell6797 hey, what? are you saying its.. good that they got stalked because they could make a youtube comment about it?
I do energy work and psychic readings on Etsy… I had a client believe I was their twin flame. (I don’t believe in twin flames) and she stalked me for a year, found my address, got really creepy. Eventually said I did spiritual/psychic warfare on her. She made an entire website about me, bashing me and going on with delusions of all of the “spiritual warfare” I was doing on her.
I solid sign of when I'm manic is everything becomes a sign, forgot if this was a super common thing I think it is? Anyways, last october I went on a beach trip and took a walk on the beach; I found 3 large dead sea mammals in various states of decomposition. I toyed with the idea of "oooo it's a sign it's a bad omen I better watch out," but when I couldn't sleep that night it turned into full paranoia. The spider above my bed was an omen that I was going to die, spilling loose leaf tea was a sign, everything was just making me think that something awful was going to happen. The worst thing that happened was that I lost my duolingo streak and got freaked out LMAO
You explain what happened with your friend and the "psychic connection" really hit something in me that I didn't know was there, but that needed to be hit. My ex boyfriend was incredibly intelligent and charming and was Christian. He was often spouting the bible, even managed to get me to go to church with him early on in the relationship. But he was also quite mentally ill. He would say that we were connected by God and that we were destined, and then the next minute I was the temptress that was sent by Satan to lead him off of the Holy path. As his mental health deteriorated he started saying more and more disturbing things such as that me and our child were destined for heaven, but implying that it would be sooner rather than later. He also said he would directly "send us to heaven"
When it got really bad he would deadpan just look at me with coldness and blankness behind his eyes and utter "God has abandoned me"
He suffered with Anhedonia and believed that it was ultimately the result of him being tempted by me to "sin" and that God had removed his ability to feel nothing but pain.
He also refused mental health help, also citing that it had let him down, or had made him worse before.
There are alot of similarities between these types of spiritual people and people that practice organised religions like Christianity. And I know not all organised religion is like Christianity.
But I got a whole lot of religious trauma from the 2 years I was taken in by him. And this is only a fraction of the story. It was in fact a very wild 2 years.
Holy shit… this sounds exactly like my current bf
@HeteroSkeletal do you feel safe around him? Or does he feel unpredictable? Sorry to pry, but my situation really didn't end well at all, so I say this with care.
Really similar story here, except my ex was really into 'satanism' (not exactly lavey but more uh....nazi ish?) And would constantly freak out over the tiniest things yelling at me that "the universe is listening" and that I might tilt the universe in a harsh direction with negative energy (I called him out for cheating on me)
Everything was a sign, he would freak out trying to make connections over everything.
Or that I would be severely punished by the universe for saying something bad about my day. He would scream at me when I accidentally split poles, always trying to force his practices onto me (like trying to force me into shadow work despite me telling him I think it's probably do more damage than harm)
I couldn't even sleep in the same bed as him because I'm a night owl and if I entered the bed after him he would freak out and try to beat me while screaming at me not to attack him, then realize it's me, get mad at me for scaring him and I was just too scared to sleep after that for weeks. He would just have snaps when he got deep into reading esoteric knowledge.
Each day he just got worse and worse until I got the money to get OUT. He also refused mental help when I could clearly see his trauma was so potently effecting him. I practice spirituality too, but he was practicing dofferent paths.
Stuff like this brings out my atheist tendencies bc it highlights how ppl can just twist religion and spirituality to manipulate for their own selfish reasons. Whether you participate as a pawn in their game is up to you.
@sighborg_ Yes that's very true, but sometimes you don't see their game. My ex was one of these people that when he was talking about some he was passionate about he is quite enchanting. He started out saying all these wonderful things about Christianity, but the longer it went on, the more it b3came an excuse rather than real spirituality, we would have arguments over the fact that I interpreted passages differently to him. His Christianity was the correct Christianity and it was radical.
It's when they get radical they they get scary, and that's just human nature unfortunately, anyone can be radically obsessed with anything. My ex just happened to be with Christianity. It's unfortunate really because it has tainted something that even if I didn't fully agree or believe it it was and is still beautiful at its very core, its just the certain minority that tend to be the loudest and more radicalised.
Thank you for making this video! I have schizoaffective and online spiritual communities have been harmful for me. Not to invalidate anyone’s beliefs, but I think a lot of people in that community have undiagnosed bipolar/schizophrenia/schizotypcal personality disorder. A lot of them are heavy weed/psychedelic users as well. A lot of them are mental illness deniers, and lack insight. Even if you don’t have a psychotic disorder, the ways of thinking they encourage can be harmful to anyone. “You attract what you are,” then why do good people attract abusers? Thinking you’re being punished for past life sins. Getting what you deserve. Victim blaming. People who struggle with mental illness having “low vibrational energy.” Bad things happen to good people. A lot of the people in that community are grifters. It can also cause OCD type of thinking. It made me scared to have un-pure thoughts, even when they were intrusive. Lots of cognitive distortions in these communities too, like mind reading. It’s not healthy to try to predict the future or try to figure out how someone feels about you via tarot cards or psychic. Lots of paranoia that people are against you. Grandiosity and self importance. Don’t get me started on the “twin flame” journey, literally the twin flame relationship describes an abusive relationship. People are trying to deal with their trauma through magical thinking. Idk. Just my thoughts.
Very well said about the victim blaming part. Out of my toxic relationship, I was having a hard time tying together " that person was in your life for a reason, you attracted that as a life lesson " and " the agressor chooses to be violent and to hurt you ", from the feminist analysis of the cycle of violence. The victim blaming from the pop spirituality finally pissed me off and I started reframing things by focusing on my agentivity like " It was not my fault and I didn't deserve this, but I have the courage to work on me to learn something out of that". And I work on validating my emotions too, I got in an argument recently with my mum who's advocating for "high vibrating energies " and shaming me for my anger ("low vibration")
I totally agree with you. I used to smoke a lot and it didn’t help that I was surrounded by people who had or were experiencing spiritual psychosis. I experienced intense paranoia and sleep paralysis on a weekly basis. I used spiritual practices as a means to find answers to what was happening to me, but it only made it worse. I really had to crawl myself out of that and am still in the process of grounding myself. I hope you’re doing well and thank you for sharing ♥️🙏🏼
I think these new age spiritualists are unpalatable and do a lot of harm to the very old a well worn path of paganism.
I'm sorry that you've had your experiences diminished, by a community that is SUPPOSED to be there for the hardship. It's literally the point.
Spirituality is just another word for energy- which in a human is emotions. There is absolutely nothing wrong with how you feel ever. Your emotions are your experience, and no one has a right to tell you how to feel. How we act on them, however, people do have a right to chime in on (particularly if they're negatively affected).
True spirituality has real and serious physical implications; I agree there's a lot of genuine delusions being passed around these days. But I have seen the spirit work in action; documented with witnesses (this is why a witch, is ALWAYS supposed to have a witness/coven; to hopefully help keep everyone real while the fine lines of what perceived reality for that culture and time is, are being pushed).
The best "witches" in the old days were essentially just different types of scientists without a name; including psychologists...
Keeping a log of your daily thoughts/ actions when in the thick of it, can really help keep spiritual vs mental hardships separate. Though they are inextricably linked, so if one triggers the other for you in negative ways, it is absolutely best to stay away from those triggers. Keeping a journal and forcing yourself to really read it, is generally one of the first steps of any good therapeutic care.
I 100% agree, as someone who was raised by a new age spiritualist and who lost my best friend to a new age spiritualist cult.
I deactivated all social media beside TH-cam.. Friends you can't get on the phone at least, are not really your friends.. And I just got depression and anhedonia..
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I wouldn’t say I’ve experienced spiritual psychosis, but I do remember for a lot of this year, before I got my meds changed, as someone with OCD, I got a little too carried away with the whole signs thing, and seeing signs in perfectly mundane things. For awhile, I thought there were a lot of signs telling me that I was gonna die on a certain date, and I didn’t thank God. Honestly though, this video was actually really helpful, with the advice that you gave about avoiding these traps. Thank you Dorian. ❤️
as someone with ocd this hit too close to home 😅😅
honestly spiritual tiktok, twitter, instagram...it's all horrible. so many fraudsters and delusional people giving the sane parts of the community a bad name. this is worse than the reality shifters because at least they were just sitting in a corner maladaptively daydreaming and not attacking people. Reminds me of Ashley Guillard, the person attacking him should definitely be sued for defamation. Anyone who does shit like this needs serious mental help. Anyone who believes it is either delusional themselves or incapable of rational thoughts.
Even spiritual Tumblr is still a mess today. It all feels very shallow, like it's more about ~the aesthetic~ and feeling superior to others.
I could have gone another lifetime without hearing or reading the word "shifters", but here I am...
Without even needing to tell myself -- without the usual internal monologue "oh, this is cringy, I should cringe" and then cringe...
No, this cringe was a genuine emotional gag response.
@@SylumSolosEverything what's wild is that in my own comfort narrative world at about age 12, long before tiktok and even internet access really, I actually named one of my coping mechanisms a "shifter." Essentially a shape shifter, but unwillingly triggered by emotional and social interactions, I'd compare myself to the concept to describe how fluid and indecisive I was, I'd find myself mentally really coming back to that word a lot. Especially too as a way to calm myself back down when I learned a surface level idea of what bipolar was and needed to find an alternative idea to not rush into worrying that I was seriously mentally unwell, and should want to part with a concept I actually sometimes found comfort in to be healthy.
I had undiagnosed adhd and autism at the time, and rely a lot on creative, fantasy interpretations of concepts to really fully explore and understand them. To be clear, I knew what was and wasn't reality just as firmly as any imaginative kid, I knew this was definitely a comfortable fantasy and that I wasn't literally a shapeshifter being, but did really spend a lot of time exploring that fantasy constantly.
And I find it ironic that I had the concept of shifting in reverse to what kids on tiktok a decade later are doing, that I was in the real world and soothing my worries by knowingly pretending to be fantastical, while they are possibly genuinely believing they're a normal human, shifting into a different more fantasised reality.
And I find it more dangerous to use spiritual beliefs to try define others besides yourself, to convince yourself of who others really are and what they're doing.
All we have to work with are the collection of traits we use to build the concept of them, and always will have at least a tiny bias.
This "shifter" nonsense is the age old grift of selling people the idea that there are "secret" shortcuts to success that nobody knows about. It's distracting people from making decisions that would actually have a positive impact on their life. It's not harmless.
@@k4nd1incyb3rsp4c3That's because it is. Not to be an armchair psychologist, but people who have little going for them in life are likely more susceptible to anything that will make them feel special. And frankly it's easy for people on the internet to lie about this and ignore how messed up it is to steal indigenous spiritual practices for yourself.
My Mam was raised by my great-grandmother who was called an old Irish witch. The lessons she learned were to trust yourself, follow your gut and don't listen to people who tell you to worship anything like "deities", because you don't know their intentions. You are always in company with your ancestors, which is why its so important to learn to listen. Your ancestors will be the only ones you can trust to have good intentions for you, but even then they will be traumatised by what happened when they were still alive, and may give bad/irrelevant advice. If you want to ask advice it has to actually come from yourself. It's easy to do what you want because "you were told", it's hard to take responsibility for your ourselves. If you think about it, we all need reminding to put on own oxygen masks, and the best person to remind you is yourself. Most of all keep it to yourself.. there are weird people out there. And be careful with covens.. there is no equality in them. There is always someone in charge of a coven and so in charge of the people and their spiritual development. But if you're too busy listening to someone else you'll never listen to yourself.
It's all essentially "you're a woman living in the patriarchy so make sure to think about yourself cause the men (and women) in charge don't." Kinda stuff. Do we really need it? Are we still in a patriarchy? All questions that can be answered with looking inside yourself.
And you can't just wave sage around.. or you can, because that doesn't do anything.
Fantastic video Dorian, thank you!
Thank! You! Covens or these online communities are not only meant to feel better about yourself but also as a way to avoid responsibility of your own actions! You and your ancestors rock!
I love your style in these new videos. You seem so much yourself and it's wonderful.
I looooove the jacket
Yeah it's been really cool to see more masc and androgynous looks in Dorian's style, it's giving me a lot of inspiration for my own outfits.
You’re so freaking cool. I’m so grateful someone like you is on this platform, making this type of content. Thank you for being a voice of love and reason. ❤
Online spiritual places are insane echo chambers. People deep in the mire of psychosis are given high regard and Gods forbid you disagree with their delusions.
As an Athiest who believes in absolutely nothing supernatural this shit is absolutely wild to me.
The worst part about psychosis is that it can also work on us, godless atheists. Instead of supernatural your brain could made up some materialistic bullshit. Birds being drones or something. It will feel logical at that moment which is honestly terrifying
I'm not an atheist but it is definitely the case that most people involved in the supernatural have other issues and this particular movement is made up of those who have little else to do but sit on their phones and hope to be interested in something.
@@LilLadyAy anyone who believes anything supernatural literally is dealing with mental illness. There is not another explanation. Us telling people that it's ok to be delusional because it's about God is harming everyone. Not just the person who believes it.
It's a closed-loop system y'all. No outside influences exist. It's honestly alarming in current year.
Layers upon layers of mental illness radiating from this drama
Me too but the witch trials make sense all of a sudden. There was a point in history when everyone in your village believe in spirits, drama must’ve been on another level.
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This reminds me of the gangstalking delusion with how the community is reinforcing it.
Have you experienced gangstalking?
I'm guessing not with that comment
@@GregtheGrey6969 no one's saying "it never happens" but it's a common delusion...
@whocares9439 have you experienced all the corners of the online spiritual community? I'm guessing not with that comment.
Every spiritual online community has one thing in common: the presence of narcissists and megalomaniacs.
They can brainwash you into believing literally anything if you're not careful or grounded. Some people are especially good at targeting those who are in their weakest and most vulnerable moments where you could very well be susceptible into believing anything...which is a pretty dang large demographic in the spiritual community as a whole.
@@GregtheGrey6969 Bruh...
@@GregtheGrey6969 I once experienced a panic attack that had me entirely convinced that there was poison gas in my home.
I may not fully understand what your experience looks like, but I know from my own experience that our minds can construct elaborate and terrifying theories about what's happening to us that are entirely fictitious, yet feel ENTIRELY real.
What helped me is knowing that my mind was capable of these sorts of "artificial" or unreal but real seeming experiences. I hope this helps you, as well.
I am an Orthodox Christian and I find this to be very wise advice. In our tradition we are not even supposed to blindly trust visions of saints or our Lord. Monastics have many stories to tell about the demons' tricks, sometimes very subtle. Pride is the thing that gets people tripped up, because as you said, these people want to think they are superior to others so they take the bait easily.
I had a similar situation with my mother. She believed she was made to marry a pastor at our church. She would wander around the house believing all this insane stuff.
She would find anything that seemed out of place to her and she would say that we we're trying to attack her.
She lost her job over these beleifs that she had. She would physically and verbally abuse me and my siblings to the point where my sister ended up in a psych hospital after threatening to hurt herself.
She still to this day has like remenants of her psychosis that still come up. But she is nothing like she was before everything that happened.
That episode lasted like a good two years and it ended up with us sleeping on the floor in my grandmas living room in chicago for three months after we got evicted from a rental in Texas and had to drive all the way up to chicago. It was terrible. The whole way there she was depressed and we had to sleep in the car. There was five of us. I still get angry about it and this was almost 9 years ago. But it was terrifying at the time. There was one time when we went to a river and we were so scared of her and her mindset that we fully believed that she was going to drive us into the river and try to kill us. Me and my sister talked about it afterward like it was just a thing to talk about. I think we even were joking about it. But its not fun. And ive had my own little psychosis experiences and have figured out how to like check in when im overly stressed or using drugs too much just. I get super cautious about my mental health now because we lost everything when mom lost her mind.
People will often joke about traumatic things that happened to them as a coping mechanism.
Make space for the fact that this was a traumatic thing for you and your siblings and any feelings that come up about it. When you're younger, you tend to think you can handle it and just forget about that stuff eventually, but you should really try to find someone to talk stuff out with.
A lot of colleges with psych depts will offer free therapy sessions to people from those getting their Graduate's degree, if you don't have the money.
I think you should skip the drugs whole but that are just my 2cents
I lost everything when I lost my mind. I was so close to homelessness. My life is so stressful now, even though stress is the one thing I need to avoid as much as possible if I want to keep my sanity. Thank God for state assistance these days, or I could be off even worse.
I'm both catholic and spiritual (i love folklore and learning about other practices/beliefs systems and learning from them) + pretty much everyone in my family has some degree of "sensitivity" to the spiritual world, BUT it does terrify me that any of us could slip into squizofreny/psychosis. My parents have raised us to always, always look for the "logical" explanations first and if they don't fit, then go to spiritual ones.
They also warned us deeply about believing any spiritual message (through dreams, disembodied voices, apparitions, you name it), since it would be insanely easy for any spirit to trick you. Also to be careful of any person that claims to have "cracked the code" and it's the "one" with inside knowledge about "x" subject. And of course, the whole deal with pride, and how easy is for you to just slip into believing yourself to be always on the right, to be the one with the bigger bible so to speak.
Great parenting🎉
Thank you for talking about this, it's a really important discussion. One thing I'd like to know is is there anyone online that you enjoy their spiritual content that's sensible and informative about these things?
Yet another example of why I'm glad I don't exist on Tik Tok. Good crap this is a difficult and painful listen. 💀
Likewise. Nutbag central over there.
Same!
The time I would say I was at my highest spiritual practicing self was when I was on meth psychosis which tells you everything you need to know about my spiritual psychosis 😂 (I don’t think I ever had a spiritual experience just a lot of meth)
Working in the world of scammers, busting them. I have had multiple ladies who are caught in their own realm of imagination. It is very difficult to help them. There are some that further steps are needed. From finding family to contacting their local police department. Here in the United States getting them help is difficult. However over seas the authorities have stepped in and taken away all their electronic communications abilities. Which is what was needed. This woman needs a wakeup call not by telling her but guiding her to the truth so she feels like she figure it out herself. We are living in a crazy world. Getting her to help is going to be extreamly difficult.
Never clicked on a video so fast
I genuinely wish I could have a conversation with you! I’m 21 and struggle with a lot of the things you have. I’m pretty sure I have autism and when I tell people that they agree , You give me hope that I can be sober and happy soon. Thank you for sharing all your stories, it rings me so much hope and knowledge ❤️
Oh, dear, this reminds me of when I was at uni back in 1988. I was suffering from (undiagnosed) Erotomanic Delusional Disorder, and I was CONVINCED that this one friend of mine was madly in love with me (he wasn't) and all that needed to happen was for me to blurt out that I loved him and he would just fall into my arms (he didn't). All that happened was that my delusion yelled, "Try harder!" Suffice it to say that it's a damn good thing that there were no stalking laws in my country back then.
Careful because these colonially infested and/or built institutes get paid to destroy andd gaslight you out of natural things of actual happiness? Like why don't we still have fruit baring forests, all around and if Eden was our history, before more colonial sabotage?
I definitely had spiritual pyschosis for a long time, it took me years to fully put a cork in my very real delusions. My mother from when I was a young age convinced me and my brother we could communicate with the dead and we were born with abilities. It really messed us up to put it frankly and she still believes my brother has spiritual abilities, can astral project, can speak with the dead... everytime I see her I have to remind her how utterly bizzare these beliefs are and to respect I don't want to hear anything about it anymore.
As someone who was treated inpatient for schizophrenia, I agree some of these people need help. I was able to get out of the delusions but only with meds and therapy. She needs help.
Nice to see you fell for government bullshit
@@BOUJEEBOGANBADBITCHQUEENhuh? 😂
PSA: The current state of the Twin Flame narrative is so aggravating. It drives me nuts that it’s been picked up by the mainstream and completely misrepresented (and don’t even get me started on Jeff & Shaleia lol). People who believe it’s about being in the ultimate, divine romantic relationship are totally misguided and encouraged to be obsessive to the point of being alone, stuck, and wasting precious time. (Edit: and in extreme cases, harming the person they’re convinced is their TF who they should be with romantically)
I think that most who believe they have found their twin flame are not able to distinguish between their twin flame and their soul mates. When I ask them why they think they have found their twin flame.. usually people then start listing off things which fit with soul mates. As far as I'm aware is that peoples twin flames may not even be right now in incarnation with them.
I don't know if this is really the right community for expressing this, but something really interesting you might want to check out is hypnotherapist Eve Lorgen's work and books called The Alien Love Bite. She documents hundreds of accounts of situations just like this, where people believe that someone is their twin flame, their soulmate, or are just in an astral relationship with someone, but the object of affection often has no idea what they are talking about. It does go into ET experiences and government psy-ops and negative enitities, which might be too far out there for some idk.
I'm soo so far away from topics as such, but it's incredibly entertaining to listen you talk about it. Love it!
Just moved into my new apartment putting together furniture and enjoying being immersed in my side of the world. I don’t always watch every video you put up but when I do it’s like sitting down with the most chill friend. It’s refreshing
I experienced something similar from the perspective of the tiktok chick and the dude from the goth scene, in retrospect it was limerence, and things like tarot pick a cards that exacerbated the problem, twin flame content etc. Your videos always seem to come at a good time. Hella delus and highlighting the dangers of dabbling in these things, it all seems so real when you're in the thick of it, and in a firm believer that even if something takes place in the mind it can teach you a lot. I'm glad I came out of that situation better, it would've been nipped of I'd received a reply, but I was left to my own devices until it blew up (last year) and I struggled with a lot of mental health focus and processing. Thanks for this video, its helpful for me to distance myself further from that place and time, and cement just how harmful metaphysical content can be, and how powerful the mind is, and how important it is to exercise logic and tangible confirmation before jumping to conclusions. Overall though I think I needed this blip on my journey, I feel like I've learned a lot from it.
Most magic practitioners who have been practicing for 15-20 years+ who are on social media, all of them point out the problems with the spiritual tick tock stuff. Most of them advise to think for yourself, to have common sense and the importance of mental and physical health.
People really need to touch some fucking grass. And then go find themselves a really good psychiatrist. Maybe the other way around.
When parasocial relationships meet spiritual delusions, shit gets fucking dangerous. This is scary.
Spirituality is really intense, it’s pretty scary how fine the line is between gifted & mentally unstable- It can definitely be hard to tell what’s happening to you. The best thing to do is not to immerse yourself in deep spirituality if you’re not doing that great mentally, religion + mental health has real potential to cause major problems in your life.
This should definitely be a pinned comment.
Jen from FundieFridays said something in her recent video on the Love Has Won cult about the "New Age to QAnon pipeline", and I think there's definitely something to that - starting out being open to magical thinking etc, and then falling down a rabbit hole of conspiracy and delusion.
I've never had any problems
I think honestly it depends on the person.
My practice of both witch craft and paganism along with my worship of Hecate (and having worked with both goddess Isis and Lilith in the past) has done far more for me to help with my BPd depression and anxiety + all the trauma I've suffered in my life at the hands of men as a gay man than any counselling or therapy ever did
I think a lot of people could utilize the concept of serenity in their practice: “god (or spirit, whatever you worship) grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change; the courage to change what is within my power; and the wisdom to know the difference.” Spirit can be really intense; while it’s definitely helped me forge and trust that I’m on the path towards my highest good, it’s not a cheat code to exploit the universe and bend it to my will.
Maybe there isn’t any difference between an “external” trickster type spirit, and “internal” thoughtforms that can be extremely toxic that we call “delusion”? If you believe the universe is consciousness first, like I do, that would make sense to me. That’s how tulpas, thoughtforms, and sidgels work: we imbue these things with the power of our thoughts. So when you say (paraphrasing) “it doesn’t matter really whether it was a spiritual pest or a delusion, because it’s real to her, she’s really been through something” I would say - yes, it was real to her. It was real. Either way, I do believe that even if you think there is a qualitative difference between the two - the cures will work the same in my view.
Another banger video Dorian.
tulpas aren't real lol it's a creepypasta
@@ahouseofpomegranates4338 they are a real concept in ancient spirituality from the Tibet
sure hun @@ahouseofpomegranates4338
@@ahouseofpomegranates4338a Tulpa comes from Tibetan Buddhism....... please do research before you come out confidently incorrect.
@@ahouseofpomegranates4338 Tulpas are real. They are a type of "thoughtform" creation created by someone consciously and subconsciously. In Tibetian Buddhism I think they were used as a learning aid, they would make them and then later destroy them as far as Im aware.
The hair/eyes combo is fantastic! This is a fascinating topic thank you for sharing.
Everytime I hear you talk about this stuff I have an overwhelming desire to pull out my tarot cards. I only have one deck and they were a gift because of the artwork. I never use them but when you start talking about spooky stuff my eyes stray to the shelf they're on and I think "hmmm. I should play with those". Of course, I have ADHD so I always forget about it before I act on it 😂
Suggest throw them. Used to be into it myself. It's portal to evil. Angel cards too. Only Jesus directly. Tarot blocks people from Jesus. Good empathic people can still be blocked from Jesus.
Tarot is awesome
Maybe I’m too cynical, but it sounds like this woman couldn’t deal with his rejection so she used her platform to run him off the Internet 🤷🏻♀️
That may stem from a deeply held
Conviction that women are evil…put in your head by organised religion (bible etc.)
I could be wrong but I hear these kinds of ridiculous conclusions from mra males mainly
Winter Solstice blessings to you Dorian 🖤
I don’t have social media…..I don’t think I could cope with it at all 🤪😳
I just watch TH-cam creators.
Im so sorry you’ve had this type of harassment from someone. And I do agree spiritual psychosis or trickster spirits are the most likely causes
Same here. TH-cam is all I have now
This actually reminds me of people in Pentecostal Christian circles saying "God told me you're going to be my wife."
This is why I don't get involved in groups about spirituality, my spirituality is mine and mine alone. I'll listen to others experiences because I find them interesting and yes sometimes it sparks a curiosity into a practice or a theme I hadn't considered before. But ever since I was a teen and shared my interest with a friend who then tried to convince me that my dreams I had really happened and wild ass shit I've had a strong aversion to sharing.
You and me both. 2/3 of my spiritual journey was spent listening and buying into the gnosis of manipulators which very easily lead into very unhealthy power dynamics. The molding of my choices and identity were completely theirs. I'm a lone practitioner now, though I'm in a few spiritual discord communities where everyone is safe to share their beliefs, no matter how woo woo they might be... but the moment someone starts to either try convincing someone else of something or attempting to merge their gnosis with others so they can control their beliefs (I call this "parasitic gnosis": the act in which someone molds their gnosis to fit yours as a way/in an attempt to get to assimilate you into their belief system and listen to them instead of yourself which opens the doors to delusion and surrender of control. Ex: the Christianization of Ireland), they're immediately cracked down upon and banned without warning. We share our gnosis, but keep our hands to OURSELVES!
(Edit: of course we also have a system in place to help us pick out those who might actually truly be delusional... as liberal and accepting as we may be, there is still a boundary because the last thing we want is to support and encourage ungrounded delusions from manifesting)
I recently redefined what spirituality means to me and I’m relieved to see that I’m not alone in my distrust for mainstream spiritualism. My ex introduced me to spirituality and we’d smoke a lot of weed together. In retrospect, I can see how his ideas planted themselves into my mind and eventually blossomed into some kind of spiritual psychosis. Even after we broke up, these ideas continued to grow and I found myself trying all kinds of spiritual practices (such as healing, tarot cards, astrology, religion). It wasn’t until I stopped smoking and distanced myself from spiritual communities that I finally learned to trust myself. It has been much healthier for me to keep my spirituality to myself and to be wary of what I take in. Thanks for sharing and I hope y’all are doing well ♥️
Solitary witch, here.. I think these are very healthy outlooks when it comes to personal beliefs and spirit work; but when it comes to action/ manifestation outside of one's own personal experience most people should have another voice of reason... Or at the very least some kind of system to keep one's self in check.
Not to tell you how to learn or practice. But it's essential for all living people to have ways to keep themselves accountable for their actions; should they get lost in them; no matter their walk of life.
I am very sorry that you've been taken advantage of in the past, though. And respect your judgement/s for your best path.
i have been WAITING for someone to talk about the link between spirituality and spiritual psychosis but i was like, who even has the knowledge and the position to address that in a meaningful way? and im so so glad its you dorian thank you
Even more so: who has the courage to confront it without the fear of getting death threats in their emails?
One fear: Dorian's tiktok feed
Just started watching, but I have to say this hairstyle is so great on you
I really like how you pointed how that whether or not what she is believing actually happened, she has gone through shit. A lot of people just ignore a lot of my past psychotic symptoms because it was never real but that doesn’t mean it didn’t affect me. I still get flashbacks to the bits of the psychotic episode I had back in 2020 where I thought a demon was hunting me down. It’s terrifying and I truly hope this woman can get help and gets off of TikTok so people stop encouraging her delusions. I do believe in some spiritual stuff, but only to an extent. And I think you always need to keep the humane in mind before the supernatural, AKA see a therapist instead of just doing cleansing rituals and stuff.
I’m glad to see that there’s people who won’t just brush off her fear sand worries while also not just agreeing with everything shes saying is happening here.
And I hope the guy also is able to heal from this and that it didn’t cause any issues in his relationship. He doesn’t deserve that.
This seems to be a newer trend, there is even a manhua comic called "Dreaming Freedom" on most manga websites that features the male main character having trauma that has led him to being able to astral project and being able to physically hurt people during lucid dreams, to which those wounds will show up in real life on his victims, possibly even death.
It is interesting to see this "philosophy" become a real thing people are framing others for, especially when there is no way of knowing the truth of these stories since it is not actions happening in reality (false accusations and misconceptions of anyone without evidence), and even playing more into mental illness by using excuses that it is spiritual awareness and nothing more.
It reminds me of the whole Salem Witch Trials issue where anyone could be merely accused of witchcraft without any evidence to then be burned at the stake. I suppose it shows how far society continues to go down the repeating path.
This happened to me a few times in my life. When I was a teenager it happened often. When I got covid it was really scary for the first time. I read online that covid causes psychosis in some people and I'm surprised we aren't seeing more weird stuff. I think in my case it's someone messing with me. It's always claiming to be some fictional character or a celebrity. When I had covid it claimed a whole long story about a bunch of famous people. 😆😆 it's normally fun it's like a little mental journey. I would not advise you to ask the person or talk to them if this is happening. Tell the person that if they are really x or y person that they need to contact you in person. Give them your number. That's how I know that (Redacted celebrity) is not actually connected to me. If he was, he'd hit me up. It doesn't actually matter if it's a delusion or not. You just need to remember that your brain is doing a thing. Follow the same rules as you would on a drug trip. Then it's kinda cool.
Because you are more likely to be drawn to someone, or something you find interesting, than when not, regardless of #shapeshifting and past and present lives?
But also we all have some level of access to telepathy, with imagination and astral projection and some people maybe in the closet still about it?
@@TheSapphireLeoa single incarnated entity (that's us) cannot bilocate on the same plane. It is possible to bilocate your spirit body between the physical and the astral (though actually managing to do that and being able to discern the astral from ones wild imagination....takes years of constant practice and consistent meditation for most people), but we cannot occupy two bodies at once... I think that's what OP was implying.
War flashbacks of that one dude who entered my occult community claiming that he was unironically Mecha Jesus. NO, REALLY, HE WAS NOT TROLLING.
I got served with an unjustified restraining order by a crazy Lokean woman in Florida for "cyber stalking" her when I wasn't. I was accused of putting "magical fetters," on her because I was jealous of her relationship with Loki(God spouse problems,). She later "broke up" with Loki and now thinks she's married to...wait for it...Kylo Ren from Star Wars.
As someone who follows the teaching a of norse gods and has worked with them, being married to a god sounds exhausting and comes with a lot of one-sided efforts and a highly unequal power dynamic. She would have to not be playing with a full deck to consider herself married to Loki, and Kylo Ren sort of seals the deal. I bet she thinks she is married to the Thor comic book or movie version of Loki, to top it off. The same thing happened with Snape and Voldemort in the early days of social media. They really put fictional characters on the same level as supposed deities, despite being able to google the person who wrote this character and their creative process. None were ‘prophetic experiences.’ At least no character with whom I’ve seen people become this obsessed.
Well she and her Google chat friends made up a lot of things to impress each other. Some of us were having real experiences but we didn't talk about it because they'd just shut us down. One woman in her 50s at that time pretended to channel Loki and played favorites with the one above. Some us got pissed off others just went along with it. She was insulting and wouldn't listen when I tried to talk. She wouldn't respond or shut me down with some stupid short answer. She also got in trouble at her job at a middle school for pretending to be Loki perving on the girls. That's not what the real one is like at all. There's so much more to what went on in that stupid group but I'll leave it here. I'm just glad I'm not involved with them anymore.
My friend has experienced a string of bad luck including deaths lately. They're certain they caused it by not carrying out certain rituals & got quite agitated when I told them that it wasn't their fault & was irrational to think that way. Their therapist doesn't seem to be doing much work on this aspect of their mental health & I'm not sure what to do? I hate that they're blaming themselves but they refuse to listen to me. Any advice?
Support them and love them where they're at. It's real for them. Denying and invalidating their reality isn't what a friend does. Seek understanding. Make the space for them to express themselves authentically and to think it through without being defensive.
@kevinbissinger I don't think a friend would validate a reality in which they're a killer & suffering terribly as a result of this belief?
You sound very compassionate but don't you think there's a fine line between that & enabling these self destructive & upsetting beliefs?
I maybe didn't make it clear, I did try to understand where they were coming from, in several conversations & they couldn't articulate why they believed what they do.
I have a few compulsive behaviours of my own, so I do understand to a point & this is why I was hoping their therapist was working on this with them, as I'm not remotely qualified & have a conflict of interests to a point but I can't leave them floundering & beating themselves up as the therapist isn't addressing these damaging behaviours.
And I don't want to involve anyone else for fear of breaking their trust but I hate that they're feeling this way
This kind of thing reminds me why I like to practice a healthy dose of skepticism. I’m very spiritual but I always work hard to stay humbled and grounded with realism because it is easy to get carried away. I don’t have tiktok so I would never have heard about this without your video, so thanks!
Kinda terrifying to think that not only can your actual words and actions be taken out of context without forgiveness for even the most innocent of mistakes, but someone else's delusions about you could be held against you now too, and an army of keyboard warriors could back them up.
It was always this way, just that there was a clear line that defined male delusions as true over female's. Now, that it happens the other way around, people start acknowledging these things.
always love your perspective
My friend was deep in the throes of a spiritual psychosis at one point. We were talking about a break up Id recently been through and suddenly she cut me off 'this energy is too heavy' wound down the window and started screaming gibberish out the window then spat. She wound up the window went back to being calm... It was bizarre. She started talking about this guy she was in love with. whom she had met once, had exchanged lots of messages with but in her mind they had been together for life times. according to her she had hurt him in a past life so she had to atone in this one. I had never seen her like this, she was incredibly confident and she was writing amazing Poetry. I had never seen her so activated but she was deeply delusional.
Not sure if you’ve ever experienced pre-psychosis or anyone you know going through it, but if you have PLEASE TALK ABOUT IT! I managed to “claw myself out of it” (as you put it) before full on psychosis and I’m so grateful for that. I had no idea it existed and it could be helpful for people to know the signs BEFORE psychosis
Dont ever shut up! Your uploads are some of the only long-form videos I watch entirely!
And yes, the battle of ego (we use our minds to feel identity and separation as we do our legs to walk without thinking) is part of the human existence - I have a few woo woo friends and when the delulu comes crashing down it is brutal. Regardless, it’s also important to always use “signs” as more of an opportunity for enhancing current perspectives for growth.
Grew up deeply embedded in the Christian evangelical community and I came dangerously close to spiritual psychosis before I started seeking regular mental health therapy and sought out people specifically for non-faith based emotional support. I truly believe that religious practices and beliefs originated from and are meant to mentally and emotionally prepare us for death of others and ourselves. The more I study history and religions, the more I see it all as a manifestation of human creativity and desperation for knowledge in the face of the unknown.
Fear and paranoia seem to commonly hit people when they are starting to dig into the mysteries. I feel as though this is a common layer to the experience. I wish for everyone involved to find the truth behind this experience.
I love how open-mindedly you spoke about this. As a subscriber to the law of attraction myself, I’m glad you’re not brushing spiritual concepts off as nonsense like most non-spiritual people do.
there is thing called "insanity of two" but this kind of communities its like an insanity spans the whole lot of them.
If you re going through spiritual psychosis, please see a mundane professional, wether you make banishing rituals or not. Get the help you need. Like any help at hand. Your mental health is important.
Honestly, if anything puts anyone in that much distress, spiritual believer or not they should go seek a professional's help even if it's just to get tools to cope with it. I get that people might have had bad experiences with shrinks and or the medical system, I've had my fair share of it too, but still... you don't go to a mechanic when you have a broken leg!
It’s not gonna work they beleive they don’t need help lol if you try tell them reasons to why their situation is impossible you become an enemy lol
Happy Yule you !!!
I find cases like this to be a sign of how sorely the spiritual community needs a bit more structure and analysis, doubt, to beliefs.
Spirituality really guides people in a deeper way and really helps us use our minds beautifully, but there are a lot of places where it can overlap if not be a mistaken form of psychological symptoms.
And it can be dangerous to immerse oneself so freely and rule one's own if not other's lives with what they find in their spiriutal journey.
Thankyou so much for the vulnerability of sharing your experience, it really does help get your point across and as per usual, I love how you use your knowledge to take such an important stance on a niche subject.
I have a much more minor example of worrying spiritual delusions, a relative who has abused me for decades, but seems to be using their journey to justify never acknowledging their actions, as well as to justify their current harmful decisions, and even to adopt a rather dysmorphic personal image as a Roma caricature that involves changing a lot of their natural appearance to that of a different ethnic group to theirs. They will only hurt me if I say anything challenging, but Im yroubled because they have a strong influence on my family members, and they're spiritually guiding them in a way that is actively preventing their necessary mental healthcare.
It is upsetting that the community has so much insight, but has been built on foundations of dismissing necessary critique and defending deep biases.
Banishing Rituals + Cord Cutting Rituals.
I for some reason, feel so comforted by watching your content, your voice makes me feel like everything is okay
Oh they've become a real comfort channel for me too, I used to listen to pretty much everything they put out during my last struggle with my eating disorder. They talk in a way that feels like the perfect balance of commercially unfriendly (like intentionally harsh and interacting with queerness and critique of corperate ideas) but extremely comforting, understanding, and motivating.
I avoid people who claim they’re psychic for this reason. I’m mentally ill and don’t want to risk it.
I met a “psychic” who kept claiming she could read my aura and that she could “tell” I was anxious. I was not. She was trying to read my physical cues and she was doing it wrong because she didn’t know me. She was making me very uncomfortable trying to “comfort” me, and then I became anxious only after she interacted with me.
9:33 - thank you for saying this, I tend to agree. I have found myself in a precarious (ish) mental situation because of some of this spiritual stuff, and I have to say it's a bit refreshing to hear someone ELSE say how bonkers it is, other than me. So thanks for being the voice of some reason here. It's a wild world out there. Lotsa love to you
The voice and video quality is wonderful
Spiritual TikTok: drama
Spiritual TH-cam: people chilling afterwards
17:50 "I'm not going to believe your words..." tell my ex. Good Lord I'm having flashbacks 😂
i have ocd and psychotic episodes, while being pagan, and i love the way youre talking about these things. its really important to me so i appreciate this. w my ocd i struggle a lot with "if this thing happens i have visions of close friends dying" so it SUCKS when other pagans who dont know any better go "omg listen to ur intuition its a sign!!!!!" . its really easy to see thru this video how you care about the mental health side of spirituality. idk where i was goin w this but i appreciate this is all LOL
Yessss thank you for this video I love when you do topics like this 🥲👍🏻🩷
I remember when you talked about the guy who said you were astral projecting into his dreams! Omg, I've been here for so long haha
Can’t wait to hear your take on this! 😊
Me when I telepathically harass people in the astral plane. Please don't call the transcendence police.
As someone who is skeptical but also open to the idea (I have no clue how the universe works lol, but haven't had any of my own weird experiences like others describe), this video was very interesting, thank you
I had to deal with someone who was experiencing spiritual psychosis during a manic episode when they were then undiagnosed and it was quite scary. They thought that they were receiving messages from their dead grandparent "through" calls and emails at work, and so they'd talk to these people like they were their grandparent. They would think that everything was a sign. I'm a practitioner and believe that there are supernatural/unexplained things out there, but one of my firmest tenets of my practice and life in general is "mundane before magical." A lot of the time it's just normal stuff happening that can be explained, not a sign. Sometimes you just need to go to a doctor.
Nothing calms me quite like clicking on a Dorian video to then hear the words "Hello you wonderful citizen of the internet, and welcome to a waffle about...." 🥺😭😍🥰❤
I tend to treat messages and synchronicity with a grain of salt and sort of debunk as I go. It is hard sometimes as a professional tarot reader and a practitioner to keep that good separation between delusion and actual magick, hexes, curses, and workings. It's such a weird line to walk. It feels so strange at times, but so long as we question and ask those hard questions of ourselves, the more likely we can discern supernatural experience from psychological trauma.
So wait, you said you’ve been through spiritual psychosis…are you referencing that video you made about vampires? Or was it something different? Just curious because that video fascinated me. Much love 💗
Did they delete the other video? I remember seeing it, but i can't find it to finish it now.
@@abellabarbie omg you’re right! I can’t find it now either!
@@lulumiddleton709I was never able to finish it, so I wasn't sure if it was their creative writings or an actual experience. But if they deleted it, we should respect their decision, I think.
Well, if you research "loosh" eaters? But hear it is being dealt with, too?
@abellabarbie it was an actual experience, but yes they probably deleted it for personal reasons
Hi Dorian, happy Solstice! I thoroughly enjoy your videos. Would love sniff-alongs/reviews of Bpal's halloweenie/yule perfumes if you've tried them 🖤
Psychosis is such a horrifying thing to go through. It takes years to properly recover if you don’t have a support network or medical assistance and you feel so fuzzy and drained afterwards. It’s horrible watching someone else go through spiritual psychosis for millions online to see. I really hope she gets the help she needs to ground herself and recover
I'm gonna say it: if you're truly spiritual you're simply not on Tiktok.
I'm not spiritual and I know that is a hundred percent true. Money and "magic" don't go well together
I avoid tiktok at all costs... and for context: I am truly spiritual. I'm a born and raised shaman and I've been actively practicing in the occult for fourteen years.
Honestly though, seeing this kind of bullshit from these lunatics spreading their delusions around and infecting vulnerable baby witches and neophytes... it gets my aggression revving well enough that I feel half tempted to make an account just so I can have a total field day with roasting these cult leaders.
I’m spiritual and on tiktok. But I’m not spiritual on tiktok. I think tiktok cheapens beliefs
God IS (everything)... Even TikTok kiddos. If it exists, then it matters to someone; if it matters to someone then it matters, end of.
I'm not saying we should be condoning troubling habits. Convos like these are essential for both personal and societal growth. But let's not act like mean bigger siblings, to all the little starseeds just starting to really open their precious eyes, and maybe minds.
They'll close right up and never bloom if handled too roughly; as all abused children do... So maybe play nicely, eh?
Point is: tik tok is fine. Acting like a jerk isn't. Nor is ignoring mental/emotional health...That's what should be being discussed please.
As soon as you started describing what was going on it immediately made me think of your 'My psychic stalker' video. Such a weird situation to be put in.
Dorian is absolutely right about how antipsychotics can help separate spirituality from delusions, and that thoughts of reference are on the road to schizophrenia. Ive never heard anyone else talk about this, let alone so accurately.
I've known several people that had this happen to them. It can end up in dangerous stalking situations.
As a child I saw shadow people in my room and was convinced they were real, and were demons, until a few years ago (I’m in my 40s). I was a terribly depressed child, so I discovered there was a possibility they were a trauma hallucination. I really hope they were, because the alternative is too scary to contemplate! Your advice about ruling out any possible medical reason was excellent, and I just wanted to tell you that. Great video as usual ^^
Honestly, I've experienced something similar. For quite some time, I was convinced my house was haunted- there were a series of very specific figures I would believe I was encountering on a reoccurring basis. All these encounters happen over a time frame of a few years, and then it never happened again.
I've been thinking it over recently, and I realised everything that happened was occurring alongside a very life-changing medical event- and not only that, I recently discovered there had been a bit of a scandal with one of the medicines I was on, where people were complaining it gave them unexpected side effects such as heightened paranoia, really intense dreams and even sleep paralysis. I am pretty sure now that between the heightened stress and possibly having a bad reaction to the medication, I managed to convince myself I was experiencing a real life haunting.
So yeah, always consider if it could be something medical or the result of something else going on in your life.
unfortunately shadow people are quite real and they can be attracted to depressed people or even be responsible for putting at times, people be in not so good emotional states. No one is going to be able to tell you if what you experienced was real or not. I had a shadow person go inside of me (I didn't know it was even there affecting me till a psychic energyworker saw it in me and she astral projected inside of me and killed it. The moment she she killed it, I knew she'd done that as I experienced the negative energy instantly leave my body which left me in tons of relief).
@@tanyabrown9839 funnily enough, when my room got rearranged and my bed moved, they didn’t show up any more, and I felt so much happier. Perhaps they really were shadow people, and something scared them away, or that change didn’t suit them. Whatever it was, I’m happy they stopped!
I have schizophrenia and so does my husband, spiritually was a huge part of my psychosis I stopped eating because it wasn’t organic and I was afraid of gmo foods and pesticides, I didn’t realize that my imaginary friends were bad for me. I was born with schizophrenia and it took the first 25 years of my life to finally find the truth. I was lost and now I just need to recover from my dependence on my voices in my head. Spirituality disappeared from my personality after meds. I just wish I could get those years back but all that’s left is to move forward. I truly thought that I had a brain parasite and that it was only a matter of time before I was going to die. Every day it was like I had this silent center of a hurricane I was inside of and any day it would be the end of me. It was like everything around me just felt dimmer. Gloomier, like I lost my sunshine. I was also was grieving my brothers suicide, at that time and there wasn’t a day I didn’t see him watching me crumble on a daily basis. Trouble was I never heard his voice ever again after his death. And I couldn’t remember it at all.
Well colonialism stole everything from us and made us ingest animals and not have fruit forests, or devolved us by making us ingest anything?
i wish you only the best, you've been thru a lot ❤ stay strong! i clicked on this video by accident and people in the comments talk about so many distressing stories and how it eventually passed, it gives me strenght 🥲 love to you all, we are awesome and brighter days will come, always ❤
The twin flame communities have lost their minds and are getting dangerous.
In my youth, I met my twin flame and we spent the better part of the year seeing èach other before they died.
It is a real phenomenon, we both knew we had this connection, complete with being able to read each other's minds to the extent we could ask the other where they were and meet up much to the shock of friends who saw it before cell phones were a thing and consistently correctly guess what card the other had over 60% of the time.
It's real, I should know.
But what I saw online is not what I experienced.
Runners and chasers, Devine feminine and divine masculine, it all bunk.
If you truly meet your twin flame, BOTH of you will know it. You will both feel content and at peace and it will be wondrous and magical. You will not need a "coach" or "instructor" at all. Your twin flame will not have narcissist tendencies towards you and if they do, they aren't your twin flame and you need to get away from them.
Twin flames are a precious thing filled with the purest unconditional love that you couldn't imagine or believe.
But it's also a term and promise that can easily be taken advantage of. Who doesn't want that kind of love after all? Who wouldn't give anything for it?
So beware. Use common sense, and don't let a selfish person trick you into believing they are your twin flame, and don't let some psychic tell you about your twin flame. You don't need them. If you by astronomical chance meet your twin flame, both of you will know it and they aren't going to "run", you don't need to worry about feminine or masculine or going through stages, you just need each other.
100%. I experienced this too in my own life and it’s life changing. everything I see about twin flames is false and based in the ego, it’s nothing what these coaches project on the internet
Tiktok glad I didn't ever get a account for It.
People are sad and scary. This is why I stay away from most.
I was writing a letter when autoplay took me from a video on people lost to EDs (RIP ❤) and realized 18 minutes into this one that it had changed after zoning out. I looked up from my writing & I was like "wtf? Psychics?"