The Art Direction of Street Fighter V: The Role of Art in Fighting Games
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- In this 2017 GDC Talk, Capcom's Toshiyuki Kamei introduces Capcom's techniques of art creation in its development of fighting games like Street Fighter V and discuss how the art has played a role in the overall game structure.
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I've heard and seen some TRANSLATOR before, but holy moly this guy is another level.
He did the job so smooth and fluently like I haven't seen in a very long time.
TRANSLATOR TRANSLATOR TRANSLATOR TRANSLATOR TRANSLATOR
Give that translator a medal!
*Interpreter
Actually... Everyone knows the depressed Nintendo Switch Splatoon 2 Translator is the best interpreter.
props to translator
yeah the translator is amazing!
Quick and accurate and still presenting it in a nice way.
Does anyone know Japanese and can confirm that? He spoke naturally, but that could be because he was just communicating the gist of it.
Ryan N, he was not translating word to word, but it's not necessary!!!
what is the matters he was translating accurately and was making it fluid, easy to follow, not boring and frustrating. it was 1 hour talk!! he'sTHE Pro!!!
props to him
That Nintendo translator for the SWiitch reveal was great don't y'all remember? Waaaaaaay better than this dude.
I much prefer this style of talk over the normal interpreted talk. That is to say, you can tell that the Japanese speaker and English speaker have practiced/given this talk together before, and they know the right timing to keep transitions smooth and the talk interesting. Some people might snub this style because the interpreter isn't interpreting absolutely everything raw on the spot, but if more prep leads to a better talk, why complain?
ジョンさん、お疲れ様でした。こういうイベントで通訳者として顔を出したら本当にびっくりしましたよ。最後のQ&Aでは結構細かいことについての質問が出たよね。英和通訳がなかなか難しそうだったね。これからも頑張れ！
Really fascinating stuff..thanks for sharing!
PS: Props to the amazing translator.
*Interpreter
Showed good patients and handling the situation,into c.g arts check this out. m.th-cam.com/video/E8OmntW4Dwk/w-d-xo.html
How cool, their recent book includes the documents they were asked about in the last question of the interview!
What's the name of the book
@@CriticalThought004 "How to Make Capcom Fighting Characters". 👌
This was a perfect watch on so many levels it's amazing.
Time stamps(In construction)
explanation on game loop 6:42
Arts role in Fighting Games 7:23
Character silhouettes 9:07
i love this translator, these translated talks are nice and paced out, I really like them
*interpreter
thanks, no one must've understood who i meant
Nice GDC, thanks for upload! I like Street fighter alpha 3 concept more than new games, for me in sf 4 and 5 is hard to read what's going on and camera move when jump..
the file for this slideshow is actually online. somehow I found it off google images lol
I feel like if there's one thing the Street Fighter series has that the Mortal Kombat series could benefit from (and there's more than one), it's this mindset when it comes to art direction and character design.
Love the Art design SFV and street fightet in general.
Looking at the front view makes me think about ex style instant re plays.Maybe they should bring that back.
Interesting
That's why SFV is my favorite fighting game of all time the character models and animations are so good! very inspiring!
This is awesome
For those wasting their time on semantics:
trans·la·tion
/transˈlāSH(ə)n,tranzˈlāSH(ə)n/
noun
1.
the process of translating words _or_ text from one language into another.
wish they would finish the game for non-tournament 1UP players. will buy when there is an arcade mode.
58:43 aquatunedvd in the japanese subtitles? :D
wait... Riu is smaller than me? LOL
whats up with the interpreter poses?
Marcelo Tezza Reported for bullying
221Dw bullying?
*Translator
:)
I think he is nervous and suffers a little bit from self consciousness, he will improve :P
Oh man what a bad choice to demonstrate art direction.
Dick Trickle Why? I watched this and was very interested in seeing the design process, especially in a fighting game.
SFV is a pretty ugly game.
Dick Trickle lol that's a lie if I've ever seen one. SFV has great animations and art style - one of the reasons why it's on GDC. Each to their own though.
Put your glasses on and go look at Ryu in game.
Speak for yourself
did i just witness the first translator/interpreter in history who can transport technical details to their full extend from japanese to english and back? thank you for the wonderful and rich presentation.
And not like "he says thank you".
fantastic interpreter and really interesting talk
NetherRealm should have this video playing in their studio 24/7
😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂
How come?
@@CriticalThought004 mortal kombat's animations suck and have no personality lol
Loved every moment of this. The principles shared are incredibly informative and to have such a detailed insight into the creation process (such as the comparison between texture sizes) really felt special!
The multi-color grading section is an interesting contrast (!) to Injustice's color palette.
One of the best GDC talks I've ever seen, if not THE best.
for those interested in the book that they talked about, you can buy it (in japanese) over here www.play-asia.com/street-fighter-character-making-how-to-make-capcom-fighting-ch/13/70cfkh
such a wealth of information, incredible presentation, thanks!
Legendary translator
47:38 did he just ask people to wonder 'what is the function'?? LUL LUL LUL
24:07 hey the dev actually used the non esports friendly version of that
32:00
(just my bookmark, don't mind me~)
HAHA, I DO THE SAME THING XD
=)
>Spain
>Ninja
What?
Vega
Bull fighter ninja lol
Brilliant presentation and translator. Bonus: they snuck in a butt shot @22:42 at a 5º angle 😲
37:30 - So , instead of just writing code (Once) that will convert your filters from object space to tangent space and then you can do all your work in tangent space.
You do this back and forward space conversion a million times.
Its like going around town for half a mile because you don't want to place a 20 ft railroad section in the middle of the town...
(I do not know what he means by "Object space offering us wider range of colors", i assume both tangent and object are RGB8 format unless they made a different rendering engine (Which they didn't)
Big props to the translator. Always baffled how these people are able to do this!!
Isnt it amazing hiw thanks to that translator I as a german can understand a talk given in japanese?
Nice insight into a game franchise that i probably love most, and well translated.
"Learn some english Sergei, you silly diplomat"
Yeah, nice art, too bad it's a shittie ass game.
I find it interesting that nobody in the comments dares to mention Killer Instinct and how similar V trigger is to Instinct. From how it builds to how it’s released to how it changes some characters’ gameplay, it’s all very similar.
I don't know which fighting game had the first "trigger" feature, but Genei Jin in Street Fighter 3 predates KI2013
very good presentation, thanks !
good we need tekken video now
At ~28:00: They talk about how they focus on making the foreground characters pop against the background. Unfortunately in SF5 the stage is chosen before the characters and now it's common practice for pros to pick costumes that blend into the background to confuse their opponent during battle. Unfortunately it's also an eye sore for the spectator. Color matching costumes for this purpose has become one of my biggest pet peeves when watching SF5. I really hope Capcom pays attention to this and puts stage random selection AFTER character/costume selection.
if you select random stage, you still don't know what stage you'll get until after character selection.
Oh yeah, you're right. Well I hope something can be done because I'm getting tired as a spectator watching pros try to blend their character into the background colors. :|
Hi Callsign: JoNay,
I'm sorry for teaching Smug about that back in 2011 causing him to mention it during his Excellent Adventures episode as he listed some of the things I taught him. I guess you may be tired of me being quoted as the person who started the "greatest of ease" and "postulate possibilities" memes too! It is interesting seeing how the butterfly effect works in real time.
- KaizenMaster
The animation in SfV are on point. Better imo than every other 3d fighter (Except Guilty Gear maybe).
Hopefully they make Gameplay a little more interesting for me in a future update so I can go back playing Sfv.
@@RockZerr Guilty Gear only looks good because it uses 2d animation principles to go with it 2d mimicking graphics. As a 3d animation, they suck.
lol no
@@MansMan42069 they're emulating TV anime framerate thats why you think their 3D animation "sucks".
@@budgiecat9039 Did you not read my comment fully? ArcSys can make the emulated 2d animation style look good only because their shaders can make you think the models are 2d. If they used that kind of animation on SFV or Tekken 7 models, it would suck.
I want this, but for KoF14
eww no
But I cant agree with the silhouette for Ed's base skin model. It looks like a generic character. Even few of his moves has certain elements from other character moves.
If they had made his battle costume as his base skin, it would've been much better. His battle costume makes him feel like a real contender to overthrow M.Bison's himself, or could even be called the young M.Bison.
But man, I love the sf5 stages. They are so alive, especially the Beach and CPT stage :D
anyone catch the name of the blog at the end?
RealearThanMost I believe it's here somewhere game.capcom.com/cfn/sfv/column/131580
Matt G Thanks!
game.capcom.com/cfn/sfv/column/131606 here is a tiny part of it.
www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%82%84%E3%81%95%E3%81%97%E3%81%84%E7%BE%8E%E8%A1%93%E8%A7%A3%E5%89%96%E5%9B%B3%E2%80%95%E4%BA%BA%E7%89%A9%E3%83%87%E3%83%83%E3%82%B5%E3%83%B3%E3%81%AE%E5%9F%BA%E7%A4%8E-J-%E3%82%B7%E3%82%A7%E3%83%91%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89/dp/4837302025
amazon
Summary: make everyone look like they're made of clay and pay Bengus 5 cents an hour to quickly draw low effort hand drawn 2D stills for the lazy story mode sections
To be fair Bengus abandoned his high quality illustrations back in the 1990s. Even Kinu Nishimura's recent work switched from painting to comic-style art (though a lot better looking than modern Bengus)
@@gc3k Find Bengus and slap some sense back into him please. 360 degree jump spinning slaps if you have to.
@@budgiecat9039 you can't force an artist to create in a way he doesn't want to.
@@Kara-de5cz With enough willpower and gundpowder you can
If street fighter 6 goes realism it's gonna be dead to me, I like 2D graphics, I did not like your 2D/3D graphics.
3rd Strike/snk vs capcom 2 type graphics and alpha 3 those are best fighters I have seen besides svc chaos, realism will put it in the tekken area and that's where I will be like nope stepping away I gave 2D/3D a chance and boy did I hate it.
only reason people want that realism crap is just so they can put nude mods on pc, while us gamers want something good to play and it's like you caving into the high realism pc crap for street fighter when its a animated type fighting game your anime series should be ashamed to be in same crappy area as sf4 and 5
I come from the future, SF6 went for realism.
@@Neoxon619 It will bomb also.
I like their resident evil games getting a face lift not their fighters.
The more realistic their fighters get the slower they move, look at blaze blue and KOF those 2D/3D models slow the game.
I bet you anything, if they were to release SNK vs Capcom 2 with online support, it would out sell SF6.
but they are afraid to do that or even make snk vs capcom 3 with the 2D sprites cause then it proves them wrong.
@@Zanforce I come from even further in the future. Everyone seems to unanimously enjoy the realistic look of SF6, I guess to piggyback off the praise of Resident Evil's aesthetic.
@@someartist3129 I come from the future's, future and when people realize that their playing playstation home fighters.
the game will bomb. lol na I am kidding, I will wait to see what happens.
Too many good games coming out and SF6 isn't one of my tops.
@@Zanforce Yeah SF6 hasn't sold me yet even after playing the beta. I will see how it is after release week.
I studied this in college and what he says is what all the legends have known about character design, going back to Walk Disney himself. The characters are done in heroic proportions, so that even Ryu who is not exactly super tall, looks like a massive beast. The women are buff but also curvy and beautiful so they don't simply look like men with lipstick lol. Like some American games.
14:17 I wonder if street fighter 6 will look like this....I hope🙂
Wow, this translator is awful. I could hardly find a sentence where he actually translated it correctly. eg: @ 25:01
*More Accurate translation*
"Now, I didn't notice this but With this uppercut to the jaw he looks like a squashed old man";
*What the translator said*
"And here's a classic one, uh, Ryu's super uppercut looks like he's breaking his opponents jaw".
The joke was that Zangief looks like a stereotypical Japanese cartoon of an old man and yet the translator couldn't deal with it so he just summed up what he saw in the picture without even going near the actual joke. What is the point of a translator if he doesn't even translate. I guess people that don't speak Japanese would never even know what they are missing out on.
TheOriginalMakaak it’s interpretation, which means similar spoken expressions in different languages. Translation is just text conversion.
Ugliest street fighter to date easily. Roided up Ryu, neckbeard Akuma, creeperface Ken, redbull merch in-game.. the list goes on.
Mannebind *points at SFIV*
SFIV looks better to me. Most of the faces in V are just kinda off into the uncanny valley. Maybe something happened when they imported the models into the engine or smth.
Mannebind no
Everything about the SFV characters, veterans or newcomers alike, were done from scratch.
ur blind, MannebLind. -LMAO.xdf-
This is my second time trying to watch this, and I still find the translator incredibly distracting. It’s like he’s trying to move, pose, and make faces like a Street Fighter character. A translator shouldn’t try to take all the attention away from the actual speaker.
I think he is just nervous and feels awkward, he will improve.
"realistic proportions"
T H I C C
Sausage fingers