Celtic Christmas: Meaning, History, Tradition
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- A look into the origin of the dating of Christmas to the winter solstice and various solar associations around Jesus Christ from Irish sources. It also examines what we know of the oldest traditions surrounding the day. The basic takeaway is that although Christ was identified with the sun and most specifically light in the earliest sources, he is also thought to be separate from the sun, as the source of the light of the sun and the controller of the sun, but not the physical sun. Nevertheless, the sun is one of the ways in which his power was comprehended. In the future we will look at a complete view of the ancient idea of Christ through the medieval Irish sources. Unfortunately I forgot to include the important detail of the winter solstice alignment at the Brugh na Boinne. I will cover that elsewhere.
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Dunking on consumerism out the gate, good start.
We still celebrate it 25th. 22nd solstice starts and 6th of January Theophania.
Hope everyone has a happy Yule this year!
I'm not all the way through the video yet but just want to add this in case its not mentioned. The winter solstice which generally happens 21/22 December is important because the sun essentially dies for a few days before returning on its route back to us to nourish the earth. That return journey starts on the 25th, which is why that date is so important. It is essentially the rebirth of the sun every year
As a Polish I have to say we are actually celebrating Christmas same way pagan way with only one difference. Our biggest day is 24 evening with candles and Christmas meal without meat .
Same here - meal and gifts night of 24
I am sure Celtic and Germanic/ Norse people knew and respected each other’s gods and customs.. call it a sort of pre Roman, very unwritten trade agreement.. might explain why artefacts from the three cultures have been found all over the others despite maintaining relatively homogenous groups, some welsh speakers I know claim old welsh sounds a lot like old Norse.. maybe due to them both being derived from PIE and also being very old from northwestern Europe. It is my belief that before the Bronze Age collapse the world was far more connected than we know but in ways that we simply can’t understand as we’re sadly so dependant on our modernity that we can’t conceive of other ways to do things.. so we come up with bollocks like “aliens must have done it” 😐
I don't doubt it. Certainly prior to the ascent of Christianity, spiritual exclusivity wasn't really a thing.
The Romans had accepted it that each tribe had their gods. Those people's only requirement was to pay their taxes and such.
Even the early monotheisms like Judaism had tacit admittance that other gods existed, but commanded their people to worship the one.
And beyond that, gods would syncretise as each tribe made contact and mingled. Egyptian and Greek gods became fused into new formations during Ptolomaic rule, and the various minglings of Germanic, Gallic/Celtic and Nordic beliefs (some more significant than others)
It wasn't until early christianity began to expand, and reconciled their exclusivity with notions of imperial expansion that the demand to worship the god of another became a reality of life.
Blessed Yule.
Lovely videos. The Irish "grian" for "sun" is cognate to the female "Gráinne." Angus "an-gus" ("the great power") is born on the Winter Solstice at Brú na Bóinne ("womb of Bóann" the mother of the Milky Way) he is the son of Daghdha, the harp-playing Orphic hero of love.
I've been thoroughly enjoying your Christmas videos! Very interesting & well done video
Funny that the experience of waking up with a rock on your chest and calling for help (voicelessly) is sleep paralysis.
I have experienced this myself, but it was also on the same night I witnessed a black moving mass and while staying in the house of someone who was suffering a mental health crisis. When I explained what I had seen and experienced they told me simply "they came to you too". So while it may have a psychological explanation, it seems to me to also be more than that. I know I certainly felt I was being attacked by a force, pinned down and with something covering my mouth, smothering me.
@@FortressofLugh That person needs to do spiritual warfare big time!!! How they are still OK.
When you said Elias! i thought for a moment it was St. Patrick calling out Helios.
Really an excellent presentation. Thank you . Will recommend to others.
Great video! Merry Christmas and God bless you! I hope you have a great next year.
Very informative video thank you. 👏
Great show, man. Love your channel! Happy Holidays to you and yours!
Thanks for your efforts. I enjoy these videos. Best wishes for a happy and healthy holiday!
Don't forget the major influence of Mithras, Sol Invictus and even Horus
Oh I see below Mithras is already treated
There's a theory that Christ was born on Dec 25th because John the Baptist was conceived on Yom Kippur, when Zachariah was incensing the temple, and Christ was conceived around Passover, probably in late March. John the Baptist was born in late June, 9 months after Yom Kippur, and Christ was born 6 months after, in late December. So December 25 is at least plausibly referenced in Scripture.
It’s not possible because of the age of Saint Paul.
Yheshua must have been born in September.
Boy you got your Bible facts wrong. You can not use modern Jewish calendar to determine the Bible time. The Jewish calendar was established in the fourth century. Before that they used God‘s reckoning of time. Zachariah performed his ministry on the eighth course of Avaya which falls sometime during the Shavuot or known as Pentecost. From there we can determine when Yashua was born. Yashua was born during the feast of succot aka tabernacles which falls during September. The feast of tabernacles is about God dwelling among us. Those who claim that the Bible doesn’t tell us when He was born is biblically illiterate.
@@micahpickens2077 Take it up with John Chrysostom. He was the first to popularize that reckoning of the date of Christmas from his interpretation of Luke 1:8-11 back in the 4th century.
@@sexualtyrannosaurus230 yea but you reported it so I’m taking up in u.
A fantastic video and channel, I must admit that I cringe at the Irish pronunciations though... That being said, I'm just a pronunciation nazi... haha keep up the fantastic work! If you ever want a consultant for the pronunciations as Gaeilge please let me know! Unfortunately there was no stephenses day/lá an dreolín or wren boys in the local village this year over covid but I have long said that it's my favourite day of the year!
the way for christens to take over paganism was by taking/appropriating all celebrated holy days and holy places/sites/building. and same goes with stories and some characters
Fun fact, the old day for Christmas was 05 January. I was reading about Braid Scots words and phrases and the 5th of January was called “Auld Yuil” meaning “Old Yule”.
This is not entirely accurate. It was always set on the 25th due to the change between calendar methods, some in the eastern church celebrate on Jan 7th, as that date corresponded to the Dec 25th of the Julian Calendar.
Interesting. Never knew some celebrated it on the 7th.
In Ulster-Scots, ”Blythe Yuletide”
Thanks. I’ve always been interested in Ulster Scots. Sounds rather strange when compared with most other dialects of Scots.
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"Effectively hijacked"
The black men of the Fomhoire were not African ancestry, as, in Irish, the name for black people, is actually "blue people".
This is because, most North African Berbers etc, have a blue tint to the skin, from the dye in their clothing. Most trade would have been with North Africa.
True story.
Interesting. Earlier, I looked up different word origins and/or meanings for “vi” (from vikings) and one gave the color “blue” as a meaning.
Also, I am still confused!
Is Cú Chulainn a deity? His deeds kind of resemble what an actual deity would normally do.
Believed to be a deity who also is based on historical figures.
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That's also my theory, that he was an actual deity, but in modern times, if you even dare to call him as such, people rejects it.
In Celtic myth Cu Chulainn is a demigod, the son of Lugh.
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We don't know how he was seen in pagan times.
Nollaig Shona Dhuit. Go raibh maith agat as ucht do chuid oibre, Dún Lugh.
Mother Mary was Venus, the Mother Goddess, once also appearing as a great comet. The mythical archetypes exists in all world cultures. Jupiter is the key to understanding. Zeus’s son/sun was Apollo, who corresponds with Lugh. The kingship was handed down from Jupiter to our current Sun. Yes - my claim is that Jupiter-Dagda is Lord of Lords and King of Kings- the origination of the Christ deity. Saturnalia became Christmas when Saturn aligned with Jupiter in a helical polar configuration that lasted through the “Golden Age”, prior to the Sun Apollo appearing during the battle of the gods, displacing Saturn, revealing Jupiter behind, and transition of Earth from one solar configuration to the current captured orbit around the Sun as we see today.
@14:43 shows the headdresses of the “squatter man” or “stick man on stone” seen in petroglyphs and other cultural rituals around the world. This symbol was derived from a plasma instability called a “Peratt Instability” - a Birkeland current Z-Pinch.
Don’t wanna be rude, but I think Greco-Roman synchronism doesn’t work as well as you think. Apollo, Hermes, Mercury, and Zeus all have things in common with Lord Lugh, but none can be rightly called his counterpart or copy. Not even the Germanic or Vedic Deities are one for one copies of Celtic Gods. Mitra-Varuna are not literally just Nuada and Lugh. They’re similar, but still distinct. Just some food for thought.
@@lowlandnobleman6746 You are not rude at all and I appreciate your comment. I agree,, the deities do not completely align, and for good reason... as the planets arranged and rearranged, morphing in visual form as the planetary conjunctions took place before altering again and again during the transition of stars, the roles and titles also changed. Consider Vishnu and his many incarnations, similarly Zeus and his many variations of appearing in different form of beast or animal, or Hermes in such fashion altering his appearance or changing the form of his caduceus. The legends of old are personified planetary deities and alignments of planets, appearing as "one" at times. Hope this makes more sense than what I said before.
@@lowlandnobleman6746 I know it is all very confusing. This is a long but great read... it touches on the planetary involvement, however doesn't go into the related Plasma Cosmology I speak of. www.sacred-texts.com/pag/idr/idr19.htm
To give christianity a hold in the population. Your welcom.
Winter Soltice is the 21st of December.
The 25th of December was selected by Constatine as he had a desire to make his "New 1 State Religion" an easily adapted change to Rome's Peoples whom where largely practicing Pagan Religion. He therefore had a need to make this new practice "Marketable, if you will" and thus selected days/seasons, will already existing feasts. There existed a Feast Day Tradition on the Roman Solices. The Sun Diety being their primary Pagan "god". (Note: the purpose he chose Sunday as the New Religion's day of worship. Sunday associates to the Sun "god", ratjern than the 7th day, Saturday. Our calendar's still reflect Saturday as the 7th day.
Scholars of Astronomy have software that allows to map the sky back into Ancient Times and have used the references of the Birth Stories to estimate the more accurate month/day in the time around year 1 AD/CE and, as I recall that falls in the Pisces season, (not this would be by the Ancient Greek/Egyptian Zodiac cycle, which would be closer to what we know as the Vedic, rather than the Western/Tropical Astrology "sky clock".
These facts are easily verified through Google Search for corresponding books/articles, and those whom *study the corresponding era Ancient History and the History of the Catholic/Christain Religion and specifically the Roman Catholic/Christain version, as the Eastern/Orothodox Christain Religion, *although they have evolved, and adapted some Western slants, remain dense in points that differ from Constatine's "1 State Roman Christain version".*
Corresponding traditional Church Feast Days/Holidays are found to also include Easter, All Saints Days, and more.
Constatine remains questionable, by Scholars, sec to his actual "ever practicing ?" the Religion he promoted and had established throughout his Roman Empire, as the Sun references are found associated with him in remaining artifacts and structures, those recorded, and specifically in Constantinople.
The clearer understanding vision of the subject emerges when the actual History is studied and accompanied by the understanding/studies of the Religion.
One must realize, in that era, there was a need for Communication flow out to the masses and in to the Emperor's/Kings/Pharohs/Military Dictators.
The 2 most important Tools for Managing, Influencing, and Manipulating/Controlling the Mass Population and to secure one's position in power are, *and remain in current era:*
1. Information/News
2. Money/Currency, Gold, etc
In the years of Constantine's rulership, eat. 320 - 350 AD/CE, the 4th Century, the Temples/Churches/Religions offered the most effective tool of mass communication and it offered much influence opportunities over the Peoples, it remain a major influence.
For this understanding clarity, one can then understand the purpose of the establishing a 1-resource for unifying the Church with the Bible, which was "compiled by Constatine's selected Priests, whom were tasked with "establishing his '1 State Religion' and the Bible", the Bible being a selection of the Books of the Old Testament, largely that which was/is the Torah of the Jewish faith and then the selection, *(based on those Priest's specifications for qualifying), Gospels, Letters, and Acts, "that were also known in this era", and these having their "adjustments/edits, and obviously later translations, interpretations, Scribe's errors, that come together to affect the whole.
This was then the subject of the "Council of Nicea" for all the then Priests/Bishops to agree to for the goal of the structure if the Religion and it being uniform throughout the Empire.
Vast points are made from these basic early development that lead to the History which follows and as many X 100's views and opinions emerge that argue these subjects on many levels.
The subject deserves a greater knowing for the early foundation facts affect all that follow a and *"it must be realized that Millions today practice variations of the Christain Religion, and few know the History", or pause to consider just how many in the Western World are basically trusting their interpretation to these early Priests collecting and establishing the Bible.
This fact is overwhelming ...
The Nag Hamadi Library finds helps to understand those Priest's having eliminated clarity that offered the individual understanding they could go direct to God, w/o a Priest/Ruler King, etc, *and leaving out the "Gospel of Thomas", which qualified by their own specifications, as it has Jesus teaching "How to Pray", further explaining, the "Mustard Seed", and what is now understood through Quantum Physics as their discovered and defined "Universal Laws", and particularly the "Universal Law of Attraction".
...this offers powerful realization and encourages current further research, studies and a subject that is so important towards gaining the greater Truths.
It is most encouraging and we have real positive rewards to be learned through this area of knowing and understanding.
Key points that cause many arguments have to do with "really understanding the accurate interpretation of words and phrases" and "the most original text's availability".
Arguing the subject, absent the authentic contend, is without potential for gains.
It would be an exercise and not an opportunity to achieve the goal of truth, accuracy...
Best Wellbeing to all ...
I have been thinking about Christ as a Sun deity lately. This and a few other things have me convinced of it.
Fortress has a video comparing Christ with Mithras that also discusses the topic.
I would say it is more complex than that. Clearly linked to the sun, his nature extends to the absolute universal. This is why at the end I use "lord of light" to describe him. He is likewise called king of the rain clouds, king of the sky, king of the stars, king of mysteries, and is frequently called "son of the sun, son of the moon" in the carmina Gadelica, but elaborated sometimes by listing like every element and substance in the world. Anyhow if people are interested in this I will do some deep dive on it sometime. John Scottus was a 10th century Irish Christian accused of Neoplatonism and censored by the church. He was teaching across Germany and had an idea of Christ which is comparable to this line of approach as the ordering principle eminated from God which takes the form of light.
Santa is Satan Saturn Saturnalia,
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As a 7th Day Adventist, we do not accept that Jesus was born in December, 25.
Most likely, his birth was around August or September. We do not accept this sun imagery that the Roman Church imposed, because they wanted to convert non christians in any way possible, and some times it was through adopting many of their practices and traditions, which are not compatible with what the New Testament presents.
Primitive christianity was nothing close to what it was around the 4th and 5th century AD.
And, obviously, they did not saw Mary as a "goddess" like figure, but just a woman that was chosen to give birth to Christ, and nothing more.
A modern cult offshoot of an offshoot from the original church, which was built by heretical Jews and pagans. Nothing more.
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If that's what you want to believe go ahead.
Físeán den scoth é seo, gan amhras! Chuir tú gach rud i láthair go soiléir agus bhí sé lán d’eolas suimiúil. Maith thú a Chaoimhín
Go raibh maith agat. Déanaim mo dhícheall.