Guitar Wood. Tonewood. Influence on the sound of an electric guitar

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  • @BlackDogOriginal
    @BlackDogOriginal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    One of my favorite channels. Thanks again for the translated version.

  • @Factory_Muff
    @Factory_Muff ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You’re talent and vast knowledge of wood types and differences between European and North American trees is remarkable. This is quickly becoming my favorite channel.

  • @jakubzucha9644
    @jakubzucha9644 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The only wrong thing here is that you want to make the next video shorter. Please make it twice as long instead! :-) I could watch this all day. Thanks for sharing all this information, man! спасибо!

  • @Factory_Muff
    @Factory_Muff ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I live in rural Upstate New York and every time I pass by a run down 160 years old barn, I always think about harvesting some boards to make a barncaster for myself.

    • @8BombCustom
      @8BombCustom  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is great idea !

  • @asimbashir1237
    @asimbashir1237 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As always, a great video! Your knowledge on this subject is brilliant.

  • @patricelecanu6150
    @patricelecanu6150 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    so instructive , whith you i learn so much ! your channel for me is a gold mine ! i thank you for your passion top of the top !

  • @matalianos
    @matalianos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It is so relaxing watching your videos, thank you for sharing your knowledge.

  • @aaronwinton7067
    @aaronwinton7067 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience with building/playing guitar... your videos are always a gold mine of well researched facts. I always feel like I have bettered myself as a player/builder after watching your videos. God Bless my Friend.

  • @hans-peterjantzer1938
    @hans-peterjantzer1938 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You're a very good luthier and I wish you all the best for the future!

    • @8BombCustom
      @8BombCustom  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you my friend!

  • @ianngalbraith
    @ianngalbraith 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really great content Alexey! I love your thorough knowledge on all aspects of guitar building.

  • @cyclesgoff9768
    @cyclesgoff9768 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dude , we were putting our new acoustic guitars up against our hi fi speakers and leaving them for hours whilst we went to work in the 60s and 70 s. These days to break a new top in I often use a looper pedal 😉

    • @TheChadPad
      @TheChadPad 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is awesome, good to know! I heard K. Yairi, the master luthier from Japan, would play music for his woods while they dried

  • @pedraw
    @pedraw 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting topic. I enjoy your knowledge on the subject and presenting it the way you do. Please keep the videos coming.

  • @GNARBikeParkCumbriaUK
    @GNARBikeParkCumbriaUK 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another fantastic, well informed video. Great work!

  • @mattchurchill
    @mattchurchill 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another great video👍

  • @aipsong
    @aipsong 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for your effort and information. Wood is a part of the alchemy os a guitar's sound that is difficult to comprehend.

  • @lone-wolf-1
    @lone-wolf-1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very very good explanation!👍🏼
    Thank you!!

  • @hkguitar1984
    @hkguitar1984 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for putting yourself out there, exposing yourself to this debate.
    I've played guitar since the early 1970s and concur that wood quality and type do affect the voice of an electric guitar.
    Especially so with early Les Paul guitars as the PAF pickups back then were unpotted and slightly microphonic, as such I believe the strings/pickups are influenced by the wood's vibration characteristics.
    Great Video and Content, sharing your thoughts and knowledge are very much appreciated.

  • @jpregl11
    @jpregl11 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your video. You've inspired me to build myself a 59 copy

  • @angusmackay7281
    @angusmackay7281 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for sharing your hard won knowledge, Alex, it's very generous of you. I will definitely check out tone rite, I'm becoming much less convinced by roasted woods.

  • @thetoneknob4493
    @thetoneknob4493 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    ive only built a few guitars but wen i made my personal strat i spent alot of time searching for maple and mahogany that was cut down around 2-3 hundred yrs ago! how did i go about that? i found some damaged antique furniture that was just the right age and quality and it made a huge diff in the tone! also its lighter than one would expect, i went ahead and made it a hard tail witch also helps sustain and tone.

  • @lone-wolf-1
    @lone-wolf-1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think the resonance qualities of the woods on an electric guitar are important. But slightly neglectable too. And same importancy, if not more, has the right balance in resonance between neck and body and the hardware on it. If this balance is right, (influenced not only by the tonal qualities of the woods, but also by mass, form, dimensions), you can get a fine sounding instrument even with non exotic, non spectacular wood pieces.
    I don‘t have expensive guitars (5), they are out of poplar, basswood and ash, but I tweeked on them for tonal balance and with better parts (also cheap) and got the most out of it, sounding beautiful even unplugged.
    My 2 cents...

  • @guitarsofold100
    @guitarsofold100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very informative
    The tone tap should be done on timber the same width 4 by 4 not 4 by 3
    Examine the pick up placement and the body shape for tone

  • @andrewdarnley4608
    @andrewdarnley4608 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well Dr N this has been a really interesting video. I'm a luthier in Australia and have been building solid body guitars, based on the usual designs, from 40yr old air dried Australian timbers. A number of Australian timbers have mechanical properties that are very close to Alder, Mahogany, Ash and Maple. I will be trying your findings on flatsawn timber transferring extra energy or resonance even with old strings.
    Do you ever find old church timbers ?

    • @8BombCustom
      @8BombCustom  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks. I am convinced that what is in the church should remain in the church. Just as you can’t take anything out of the cemetery. Of course this is the vision of Faith. But lately we can see how skate parks or hotels are made from old churches. In my opinion, this is blasphemy.

    • @andrewdarnley4608
      @andrewdarnley4608 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@8BombCustom I apologize if I've offended your sense of faith. It was unintentional
      The situation is quite different in Australia. Many older churches here in small country villages, where congregations have aged and decreased, are sold by the mother church and so the function is changed to become private housing, art gallery, school or even performance. space. It's not as if the church is demolished but being made from timber renovations do happen., I have timber from church doors and pews in my timber racks.
      However I can appreciate your point of view.

    • @8BombCustom
      @8BombCustom  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Do not worry. You have nothing to apologize for. I just expressed my personal opinion on this difficult issue. Of course, if the church approves of this, then for the common man it is permission. But this remains on the conscience of the institution of the church. I have also had a very tough position on this issue lately. I have been working in the church for over 25 years and I know from the inside what is going on here. But your question made me think more deeply if such wood could be used for guitars. A very deep question ... I think someday I will find an answer to it.

  • @burt2800
    @burt2800 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh man, this is going to be good!

  • @dejadejayoutube
    @dejadejayoutube 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good luck with the 140 year old house wood, P.R.S. did that with the 'reclaimed' series, and was fairly well received. No doubt people prefer fender style guitars with distressed woods, but i'd love to see your version of a carved top single cut LP design. Great approach and contribution to the tonewood discussion too. Cheers mate🇦🇺

  • @guitarsofold100
    @guitarsofold100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    very informative although I question your tone taping @18.11?? Doesn't the width of the board create two tones also 4'' by 3'' as apposed to
    4' by 4'??
    Please do a PRS tone talk

    • @8BombCustom
      @8BombCustom  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe such a test is not 100% correct, but it clearly shows the essence. You can hear it very well. I haven't come across a PRS that often, but it is a very good and convenient alternative to the modern Gibson. They have a very serious approach to structural components such as neck insertion.

  • @timlilly
    @timlilly 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent stuff. Really very interesting.

  • @tonyderosa5921
    @tonyderosa5921 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The earth is shaped like a guitar! “To me its like a flat earth theory so I decided to understand why it is so” aka “I did my own research”. Bravo! Great videos regardless of the shape but I’d pay a lot money to see your FE debunked video. You’re thorough and factual and truthful. That’s all that is required. Cheers!

  • @martinpark8371
    @martinpark8371 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice video man!

  • @tim_bauer3100
    @tim_bauer3100 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What is that machine you were talking about towards the end of the video? And do you still use it?

    • @8BombCustom
      @8BombCustom  หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's a ToneRite

  • @michaelhousman9604
    @michaelhousman9604 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm on the fence when it comes to tonewood. Physically, the pickups mounted on the body and the strings go through the body or ride on the bridge also mounted to the body and neck so it's like a finger print, they're all different but it takes a close eye to tell them apart. The tone of an electric guitar is an entire combination of the pickups, wood and the amp where an acoustic guitar depends almost entirely on resonance through the body from the strings, so in my opinion, nice wood grain on an electric is mostly for looks than tone.

    • @jannatinkarlen8702
      @jannatinkarlen8702 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think there is abig difference if I am using single coil. Mahogany strat just sound very different than regular one

    • @8BombCustom
      @8BombCustom  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      All this is easy to verify. You just have to play a lot of guitars and analyze how you feel.

  • @frantisca
    @frantisca 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting. You know your stuff ! Cheers

  • @ronnie5129
    @ronnie5129 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello, I must comment on ""SOLID BODY GUITARS"", SOLID BODY, The sound is all in the electronics, the bridge, the nut, ect. And the way you Play, , NOT The Wood , the wood has nothing to do with Sustain, A guitar made out of acryic Does not Warp, it does not change if you go to a humid or Dry climate, it does not change, Jeff The Skunk Baxter who played in the Doobie Bros. band in the 1970;s Played one of these, if you were not looking at the guitar , you would assume it was made out of wood, i believe that these Acryic made guitars are the Best, you don't need to mess with them, Cousin Figel

    • @8BombCustom
      @8BombCustom  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Everyone can have their own opinion. My opinion is coined from my experience, because I play different guitars and have been making them for a long time. For me, my experiments are very illustrative. This is very easy to check. I think I should record a video about two guitars (one of good wood, the other of a piece of plywood or MDF, with one set of accessories and one set of pickups and strings for two guitars) I hope this question will close))

    • @MrClassicmetal
      @MrClassicmetal 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Glenn Watson ?

    • @Saurondor
      @Saurondor 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wrong, so very wrong. Yes pickups play a huge role, but they can't invent tone or frequencies that aren't already there. They only sense and amplify movement of the strings.
      The strings in turn act like a suspension bridge with the body and neck (particularly the neck which is the longest and most flexible part). When you strum the strings you pull slightly on the neck and bend it a bit more. The neck then pulls back and tries to restore the strings to the rest position. This triggers a set of oscillations between the neck and strings called "the note" or "the chord". Which any player can easily feel in the neck as vibration of the neck.
      How the neck manages these vibrations is crucial to tone. It might dissipate energy at certain frequencies faster than others or on the contrary, resonate more at certain frequencies. This will enhance some frequencies and diminish others. Resulting in different tone.

  • @666Sloth
    @666Sloth 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The more I watch Nitro's videos, the more I listen to wood, to materials, to heart and to soul. The more confident I become. The bigger fvck I don't give about someone telling me about flat Earth. Lol. Woods differ, tastes differ. My point of view may differ in 10 years. But now I abso'fvcking'lutely agree with Dr. Nitro.

  • @jpalberthoward9
    @jpalberthoward9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One thing you said near the beginning that has always struck me as painfully obvious is that when you Play with thousands of Db of gain, and massive compression, the guitar and the amplifier both become irrelevant very quickly. At that point, the thing that really matters is the sound that all of the outboard gear is capable of producing.
    And so, it's just like you said. Those individuals who play in that style will usually be the first to laugh at you and tell you that you belong in the nut house if you are concerned with the effect of the wood in the sound of the guitar, but that's the same as going to where the army is having artillery practice and trying to recite poetry by Emily Dickinson. The two things are both legitimate, but not really compatible. Sort of like peanut butter and diesel fuel.
    I had an import Stratocaster many years ago and it played just fine, but tonally it was a dud. I replaced every single part on it but the body and neck, and nothing helped. I stripped it and discovered it was made from about 12 pieces of "who knows what?" Kind of wood, all glued together. This guitar inspired no one.
    My current Stratocaster is a parts caster with a one piece alder body and nothing special in electronics or hardware, and it sounds like God shouting from the mountain top.
    One time I was playing a couple of Les Pauls in the store and I remarked that the plain top had more attitude and extra dimension than the flamey one. They told me I should wear a hat when I'm out in the sun. (Maybe in Las Vegas it's a good idea in the summer, but this was January)
    I saw Paul Reed Smith tapping on pieces of Brazilian rosewood with a hammer and demonstrating the sound that it makes, very similar to what you were doing here, but there are people who say that he also belongs in the nut house.
    My conclusion is these people who say this are either deaf, or they have skulls made out of solid concrete.
    Again, I thank you for all of your research and insights into this subject, and my respect and admiration for your work and attention to detail knows no bounds.
    Hat's off to you, sir,
    and all the best!

    • @8BombCustom
      @8BombCustom  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you very much!

    • @louiscyfer6944
      @louiscyfer6944 ปีที่แล้ว

      there is a lot of conflating going on with acoustic guitars.

  • @277southtombob
    @277southtombob 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’ve had this argument a few times. No matter how well potted it is a magnetic pickup has microphonics and picks up the body sound. When I buy a guitar I will play every one of the model and brand I want I can and even the same model and brand will sound different between different instruments depending on the density and weight of the pieces in that particular one. It seems strange to me that some people can’t hear the difference between guitars with the same pickups but different wood, it’s very obvious to me. I have several Stratocasters with the same pickups and they all sound completely different, I have one that’s a favorite that’s just fuller and has more mids than the others.

  • @hankd6312
    @hankd6312 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think density and mositure is more important than wood itself

    • @qua7771
      @qua7771 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm not sure how this relates to guitar building, aside from an assumed conformation bias. Probably not the best analogy.

  • @A.J.99
    @A.J.99 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanx for the interesting video! The difference in sound of flat sawn vs. quarter sawn wood pieces is incredible. Then it's even more interesting that Jackson uses in their top-level guitars only quarter sawn wood pieces for necks, even for the neck-through guitars.

  • @williamharrison54
    @williamharrison54 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Talking about tonewood is one thing, scientifically proving it in the use of solid body electric guitars is another. I'm more interested in the grain structure, density, structural strength and appearance of the wood, rather than the species. A well constructed instrument made of quality materials is more important than wood species. I don't know if tonewood matters in a solid body electric guitar, and I don't really care.

    • @8BombCustom
      @8BombCustom  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank. Also a good point of view. The less you know the better you sleep. ))

  • @SV-wb8kh
    @SV-wb8kh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder if a 59 Les Paul will sound even better in a hundred years from now implying the Stradivarius effect is true.

  • @1777DK
    @1777DK 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is an interesting subject, but I can’t help but wonder. Given that an electrical guitar pickup has no acoustic properties, and specific build processes are done to make sure of it, such as wax potting, how would that pickup translate the specific properties, of any wood species, to electricity? Just curious.

    • @8BombCustom
      @8BombCustom  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just the day after tomorrow, I will be recording an experiment with a pickup microphone effect in the studio. There we will dip it into hot paraffin and compare how the sound and characteristics change. You'd be surprised how important this can be.

    • @1777DK
      @1777DK 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@8BombCustom Sounds very cool, I hope you will cover how the species is translated differently, in the electricity outputted to the amp, because I find that part especially interesting. Maybe you can measure a difference in current, or inductance, produced by maple and ash, and compare, that could give a analysable result, as to how the different species effects the sound.

    • @1777DK
      @1777DK 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@8BombCustom I have been pondering this subject a lot. I think the majority of measurable differences, related to "tone" of different species, would be the overtones, upper and lower harmonics, produced. It would be quit interesting to be able to document these, visually and audibly, but I am not sure how to go about it. Thinking about it, I am not sure it's measurable through the current outputted, since the electrons won't depict any of these, so maybe something like a graphical analyse of the audio waves!? Still you would have to be able to isolate wood, from the differences of strings and magnets, as well as capacitance from cables, coloration from amps and so on. Such a complex topic, I hope you are able to shed some light. I am looking forward to you next video. Keep 'em coming.

    • @danielcook3361
      @danielcook3361 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@8BombCustom did you release this video? Which one is it? Thanks

    • @TheChadPad
      @TheChadPad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There is a possible mechanism this could happen, by which the vibration of the body would transfer through the bridge and other contact points, the tailpiece, nut, and tuners, as well as through the neck frets directly when fretting, and affect the vibration of the strings. The body could attenuate or enhance certain frequencies, depending upon what it would like to vibrate at, and transfer or "fight" these frequencies from the strings in a feedback loop of vibration

  • @Watergrovey
    @Watergrovey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    LMFAO! People need their fairy tales everywhere!

  • @Factory_Muff
    @Factory_Muff ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Priviet and Spasiba!

  • @sanddiverxsand1088
    @sanddiverxsand1088 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    В рускоязычной среде есть большое кол-во негативных слухов про деки из липы без фактов и примеров. Хотелось бы узнать мнение профессионала. Встречал два раза гитары Fender Japan с деками из ольхи и липы, где звук был предельно близким друг к другу и очень хорошим.

    • @8BombCustom
      @8BombCustom  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Спасибо. С липой я плотно не работал в гитарах. Использовал ее только для изготовления иконных досок. На мой взгляд для гитары липа слишком мягкая и вязкая и жрет высокие частоты. По этому я ее даже не рассматриваю. Така как в основном я занимаюсь Лесполами, то более сконцентрирован на традиционных комбинациях древесины. Хотя есть экзотические варианты которые звучат бомбически, но по другому,

  • @A.J.99
    @A.J.99 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Лучше было полностью заменить звуковую дорожку, с этим бубнежом на фоне тяжело смотреть

    • @8BombCustom
      @8BombCustom  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Спасибо. Думал об этом, пробовал, но тогда вобще картинка и звук не связаны. Должен быть связующий фон.

  • @geofflee6295
    @geofflee6295 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It's the flat earthers that believe in tone woods.

    • @ivanlitovchenko1840
      @ivanlitovchenko1840 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And hucksters like this guy

    • @PeteEllson5656
      @PeteEllson5656 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The comment of a beginner.

  • @peterm3964
    @peterm3964 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Glad the fools think wood doesn’t matter . Make mytone woods cheaper .
    Go on keep buying your bslsa wood guitars
    I wil keep my mahogany maple rosewood and ash.
    Enjoy your plastic fretboards

  • @andreasfetzer7559
    @andreasfetzer7559 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Snakeoil

  • @mikaso
    @mikaso 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Flat earth model is easy to laugh off. Until one actually looks into it.

    • @peterm3964
      @peterm3964 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah right keep lookin .