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Hey Visio love your vids, we both have Megane RS! and broken English! hahaha Maybe Obscure sports/super cars coming out soon? New Alpine is the inspiration for my question! Looks so cool and I think it shares our Renault F4rt engine :)
Hi! The Morini is friendly at low revs, roughening above 5-6000 RPM. The engine is strong enough, ( 140 hp 123 Nm ) the frame, the suspension, and brakes are excellent, the handling is extraordinary. I had 12 bikes, approx. in 30 years (Japanese, and some European) I love Morini more than all of them. Best regards: Csaba M. Moto Morini Corsaro 1200 owner.
First bike I tried: YZ 250 First road bike I tried: FZR400 First big bike I tried: FZ 750 First liter bike I tried: FZR1000 EXUP First supersport bike I tried: CBR900RR Fireblade First 600 class I tried: 2006 YZF-R6 Latest bike I tried: 2010 YZF-R1 Oldest bike I tried: Dunno(prob Kawasaki enduro) Bike I own: *none* Most important bike: R6.
A big 1000+cc V-Twin without electronics will be a handfull. Enough of them you gotta revmatch with cold tires or the rearwheel will lock up with downshifting. A 4 cilinder 1000cc is so much easyer.
@@eowen-to1oj I had the same thing with my SV1000S once, started revmatching after that and never had it again. But that does make it a bike not for beginners.
I had both the SV650 and SV1000. One of the things that made the 1000 a handful was it didn't have very refined suspension. I'd love to ride one with upgraded GSX-R suspension.
@@K0nst4nt1n96 my 650 is my first bike and I haven't outgrown her. My friends R6 feels slow in compare... at first. The v twins low end grunt is wonderful and the bike would greatly benefit from some better suspension.
@@GrantyGame I did not mean that it's for beginners, and it's definitely not. It's just that there are bikes that are way harder to ride, some downright scary.
Zahid Ansari Pops bought an rc390. When you turn on the key the dash lights up and the screen reads READY TO RACE It’s like a nice little light bicycle. Perfect for the task of hanging with or even beating the liter bikes on the tight twisty roads here.
how did he crash? i lost a childhood friend in 1987 who rode his elder brothers Yamaha 55hp RD350 2 stroke monster without his knowledge and crashed it into a drain and he died of serious head injuries.. he was only 13 at the time!!
@@Tuukkis I love small bikes, i have 450cc as a maximum, but that would include a ducati 416, which I can never EVER own, because I`ll kill myself 🤣 The FZR250 is a really nice bike imo ;)
@@vivekbarchha its a 2 stroke! of course it packs high rpm redline punch, the most you get maybe 55hp ...alas, nowhere near a 600cc~120hp horsepower!! the heat is only at high rpms, give a straight the 600cc will kick its ass good good
@@fidelcatsro6948 yeah but a two stroke punch of a 250 is definitely Not something for beginners. A modern 600 is in my opinion way tamer than the rs250
I miss the Triumph Speed Triple 1050 until 2010. That bike is one of the last Hooligans bike from the brand, the last model with the bug eye headlights. That is also a bike not made for beginners.
NaKombi89 my uncle has the Daytona a few years back...I never rode it but I rode bitch .... Pulled out to pass a car and we were doin 60 and he nailed it to pass. We were doin about 110 when he pulled back in. That thing was fast , I know there’s faster but it did the job.
@@MrTheHillfolk Trust me,the triple handles a lot smoother than a corsaro 1200 ,The first time i nearly shit my pens. The brute kick in of the corsa corta is notoirious
I had a very early R1, felt like it was just looking for an excuse to turn around and give you a good kicking! Was a bit like playing ting with a pit bull!
Every motorcycle is fit for a beginner. To get a full unrestricted license you need to pass the exam on a "big bike" after all. If you cant handle a "big bike" after passing the exam then you are simply not matured enough as a person.
Concours 14. 700 lbs, TOP HEAVY, 120 lb ft 170 bhp( w/pipe and tune, ) shaft driven which can be tricky at low speeds. Complete opposite of beginner bike.
1:48 Lightning fast gear changes and buttery smooth rev matched downshifts. I looked down to check my phone and when I looked back up he was still letting out the clutch. Yowch
It's true,i drive a moto morini corsaro 1200,i drive it like a little kitten or as a big tiger.The sound is massive,handles well but not for beginners,it can be brutal and explosive
Ahahaha... Try to ride a vmax 1200 like you stole it and see for yourself . 145hp on something built in the mid 80's and even then wasnt the best chassis layout prove how much fun can be danger ;)
Am I missing a point? Every bike featured is powerful and fast, which is definitely a handful for any inexperienced rider. By that common sense, that goes to any powerful fast bikes. So what's so special about those 5 mentioned that makes them extra dangerous?
I was looking at that benelli with the cafe racer color scheme, but ended up buying a z750. That is a beautiful (extremely nice sounding as well) bike but comes with the Italian baggage.
Started on a CBR 1000F (136hp) rode it 1 year and sold it for a '00 A1 ZX-12R (192hp with Airram) Been happy since (3 years) and will NEVER sell her... 😍
I don't know who are these multiple championship winners who define beginner and pro bikes. If you can ride a bike safely, then it's a suitable bike for you. Don't give a fk to other people's opinion.
I did really like this list but I was half expecting the beautiful yet monstrous Kawasaki ZZR1100 to make it onto this video since it was once the fastest bike on the road for a time if I remember correctly. It so happens to be one of my favorites to ride too.
Insert generic *I started out on a really fast liter bike and ran from the cops at 200 mph and never wrecked it because I am a big boy and I am so smart and cool* comment here
Reason why the revs shoot up in the end of the run, was he leaned the bike over, then you get up on the side of the tires, and effectively reduce the roling distace of the wheel, therefore the wheel will rotate faster at the same speed :-) but i get why you would think that :-)
The LC8 is a wonderful beast i love mine everyday a bit more. Best upgrade was the internals from the 950 Duke into my 950 Adventure R it gained 20% torque in the low and middle Rev. range. Ultimate Wheelie Machine!
I had a Benelli TNT 899, and it was beautiful, really although it is not recommended to use it as a beginner motorcycle, I dared to use it as my first motorcycle (Although I did not recommend that others start with that motorcycle), both on the street and in circuit, and it was great ... The particular problems of profitability were due to the high amount of production of motorcycles but the low supply of parts, mechanics and problems in quality control. At the end I change it for a Triumph Street Triple RX and an Aprilia Tuono 1100RR... But I still miss it
@@vasek987 Nice! That issue happened to several models, more common with the 1130 (Trek and TNT) and it is a common problem with, and according to some people, the TPS affected that. What year is your 899S? You could try a TPS of the 899 later models, I know they had varied in that part.
@@DonCaraotica1693 It is original S version, that means 2008 with nice orange pearl colour and Marzocchi fork 😉 Initial issue was faulty stepper motor (common issue). I changed it but bikes tends to stall when warm due to the too low idle RPM (around 800 instead 1300). Now I am trying to get working diagnostic cable to try to modify map as it has on top of the idle problem also problem with running too rich - licence plate black from unburnt fuel and 8l/100km with running gentle.
well, you cant expect from a bike that has more than 100 hp to be a beginners bike xd.I get a yzf r125 as a first bike but its pretty hard to ride slowly if youre height is below 175 or 180 (im 17 yo so i can only ride 125cc)
@@RodrigoBoschi There are 1 or 2 aprilia 2 stroke rs125s for sale in my country but I didnt bought them on a purpose.I heard they are so hard to maintain,I mean the parts are hard to find especially in my country,and expensive to maintain.So I bought an r125 but the crankshaft was broken after 1 month for no reason after buying it from another person(I guess it was already in bad condition)And so the bike is staying at my local mechanic for 3 months.I took a lesson from this situation:Never buy a motorcycle or a car when youre not working in a job and if everything is over- priced in your country and youre just studying hard for the university exam that will probably define your life.
@@deepdiamond5045 where are you from ? I own my Aprilia rs 125 my 01 since 2003, I had other and bigger bikes but my rs is stil in my garage . Yes, is a bike that require special attentions but you can do it yourself, is plain mechanical stuff . Is really easy and skills come along with the bike
This topic caught my attention lately that I had to make a video about it. I was able to find some, but feel free to type down more submissions! Thanks
The Boss Hoss, Honda RC51, BMW R1200 GS, Kawasaki H2
i want to see the best motorcycles with small displacement engine (125cc - 175cc). it will be interesting topic
Hey Visio love your vids, we both have Megane RS! and broken English! hahaha
Maybe Obscure sports/super cars coming out soon?
New Alpine is the inspiration for my question! Looks so cool and I think it shares our Renault F4rt engine :)
Turbo busa
@@muhammadahdalularayhanfasy8092 a normal busa.. was easy and boring at for me , it made 130 mph to 150 mph boring. Anyone?
Hi!
The Morini is friendly at low revs, roughening above 5-6000 RPM. The engine is strong enough, ( 140 hp 123 Nm ) the frame, the suspension, and brakes are excellent, the handling is extraordinary.
I had 12 bikes, approx. in 30 years (Japanese, and some European) I love Morini more than all of them.
Best regards: Csaba M. Moto Morini Corsaro 1200 owner.
I love my morini.
I'm looking at a 2019 zz, do you think it's better than the new nakeds like mt10? Is it hard to find accessories like crash protection and exhausts?
The Kawasaki 750 H2 from the early seventies should be on this list ...
That's not a crazy bike, that's an insane bike
Good old widowmaker
I had one and the 500 too
Add the GPZ 750 Turbo. I had one for about a year and it regularly scared the piss out of me.
@@boston7704 cx500 turbo is cool tho
First bike I tried: YZ 250
First road bike I tried: FZR400
First big bike I tried: FZ 750
First liter bike I tried: FZR1000 EXUP
First supersport bike I tried: CBR900RR Fireblade
First 600 class I tried: 2006 YZF-R6
Latest bike I tried: 2010 YZF-R1
Oldest bike I tried: Dunno(prob Kawasaki enduro)
Bike I own: *none*
Most important bike: R6.
Everyone's complaining the big litter bikes aren't on the list. Yea they are crazy in terms of raw power but not hard to control, if you have a brain
litre of liter or kitty ''litter''??
I dont have a brain
A big 1000+cc V-Twin without electronics will be a handfull. Enough of them you gotta revmatch with cold tires or the rearwheel will lock up with downshifting. A 4 cilinder 1000cc is so much easyer.
I agree I had a sv1000 and down shifting would skid the rear wheel just engine breaking
@@eowen-to1oj I had the same thing with my SV1000S once, started revmatching after that and never had it again. But that does make it a bike not for beginners.
I'm surprised the Suzuki sv1000 didn't make this list. I have a 650 and she can be a handful.
There is about 1000 bikes that didnt make it on the list bud, dont feel bad.
I had both the SV650 and SV1000. One of the things that made the 1000 a handful was it didn't have very refined suspension. I'd love to ride one with upgraded GSX-R suspension.
dont forget the TL1000 a.k.a ''Widowmaker''
I had both and the SV 1000 can be tricky if you are used to i4s but she gives me the biggest smiles i ever had.
@@K0nst4nt1n96 my 650 is my first bike and I haven't outgrown her. My friends R6 feels slow in compare... at first. The v twins low end grunt is wonderful and the bike would greatly benefit from some better suspension.
Da notare che su 5 ben 3 sono italiane.
Orgoglioso di tutto ciò.
Makes me want to learn on these lol
What about suoerduke 1290 r
great bike...i heard it eats even faired 1litre sportbikes
Not a hard bike to ride. Ton of power, but with all rider aids not hard or difficult to handle.
@@garmoth i have one, and i can tell u that for a beginner it would be hard to ride. But i think the hardest would be a hayabusa
@@GrantyGame I did not mean that it's for beginners, and it's definitely not. It's just that there are bikes that are way harder to ride, some downright scary.
Easy to Ride with all the electronics and even when they are off. Its just fast but not scary to ride.
Benelli tnt 1130 is a beginner bike. As a rider who has that bike as a first time, I had 12 accident with it and proud to say it is a beginner bike.
a well tuned 250cc 2 stroke dirt bike is not a beginner bike
should be on the list 😂
Nani Nani
I thing that the best bike for beginers is Jawa 50/05
RC8?
kx500 two stroke ?
*Honda CR500AF*
You forgot 80cc suzuki pv
Grom
Husqvarna 701 should be up there, those things will look instantly in the wrong hands.
They have abs and other newbie friendly electronics. And they are heavy
MT09 really not for begginers
Every bike is dangerous for beginners.
Fireblade's, R1's and kilo Gixxers are not for begginers , everything else is
the are fast and not for beginners but not that hard to ride
The Ktm 390s are also not for beginners!
Zahid Ansari
Pops bought an rc390.
When you turn on the key the dash lights up and the screen reads
READY TO RACE
It’s like a nice little light bicycle. Perfect for the task of hanging with or even beating the liter bikes on the tight twisty roads here.
ahaahhaahahahahah
Steering angle is too steep and makes it easy to overstress the front and it just slips on you in a matter of miliseconds.
No, that one is for girls.
A friend of mine died on a benelli, sad that he‘s gone
May he rest in peace
how did he crash? i lost a childhood friend in 1987 who rode his elder brothers Yamaha 55hp RD350 2 stroke monster without his knowledge and crashed it into a drain and he died of serious head injuries.. he was only 13 at the time!!
Pieces*
@@phylush5827 yeah man..it should have been writ ''Peace''
krezo Poor Benelli
fidel catsro Loved my RD's and RZ's
‚Only 137 hp‘
Ok
And here I am with my 118 hp car. XD
@@nickamarit 86 horsepower dog house here! But I also ride the FZR250. I guess I like small things😅
@I am Gamer and you have nothing. Shitty troll is shitty
@@Tuukkis
I love small bikes, i have 450cc as a maximum, but that would include a ducati 416, which I can never EVER own, because I`ll kill myself 🤣
The FZR250 is a really nice bike imo ;)
It's only the wet clutch model that has 137 hp. There is a dry clutch model as well which has 157 hp
Not for beginners, or semi broke!
where is the aprilia rs250 ?
meow meow category...
@@fidelcatsro6948 bollocks for a 250 it* packs more heat than most 600s in 2019
Good call!
@@vivekbarchha its a 2 stroke! of course it packs high rpm redline punch, the most you get maybe 55hp ...alas, nowhere near a 600cc~120hp horsepower!! the heat is only at high rpms, give a straight the 600cc will kick its ass good good
@@fidelcatsro6948 yeah but a two stroke punch of a 250 is definitely Not something for beginners. A modern 600 is in my opinion way tamer than the rs250
Honda CBX1000
Kawasaki Ninja H2R
Kawasaki Ninja H2
good ol´ widowmakers
And the Kawasaki H1 500.
TL 1000r is THE widdow maker
Italians do it better 🇮🇹 🇮🇹 🇮🇹
I miss the Triumph Speed Triple 1050 until 2010. That bike is one of the last Hooligans bike from the brand, the last model with the bug eye headlights. That is also a bike not made for beginners.
NaKombi89 my uncle has the Daytona a few years back...I never rode it but I rode bitch ....
Pulled out to pass a car and we were doin 60 and he nailed it to pass.
We were doin about 110 when he pulled back in.
That thing was fast , I know there’s faster but it did the job.
*Hooligan.
@@A.J.1656 Haha you're right, I'm so into the Hoonigans channel that I mistakenly write them in the comment
A H
It never leaves you.
My dad’s 75 , just got a ktm rc390 ronscfew around on.
@@MrTheHillfolk Trust me,the triple handles a lot smoother than a corsaro 1200
,The first time i nearly shit my pens.
The brute kick in of the corsa corta is notoirious
I had a very early R1, felt like it was just looking for an excuse to turn around and give you a good kicking! Was a bit like playing ting with a pit bull!
Andrew Wilson the early ones were brutal
We need more of these vids. Absolutely amazing.
Every motorcycle is fit for a beginner. To get a full unrestricted license you need to pass the exam on a "big bike" after all. If you cant handle a "big bike" after passing the exam then you are simply not matured enough as a person.
Concours 14. 700 lbs, TOP HEAVY, 120 lb ft 170 bhp( w/pipe and tune, ) shaft driven which can be tricky at low speeds. Complete opposite of beginner bike.
1:48 Lightning fast gear changes and buttery smooth rev matched downshifts. I looked down to check my phone and when I looked back up he was still letting out the clutch. Yowch
That Morini sounded sweet...
Love to get scared on my Veloce!
@@rolsson4365 a fellow morini rider :)
Lol, I bet 80% of new viewers on this video will be 18 or below🤣
Going off a lot of the comments i would say 12 and below.
i'm 18
Rd350 ?
It's true,i drive a moto morini corsaro 1200,i drive it like a little kitten or as a big tiger.The sound is massive,handles well but not for beginners,it can be brutal and explosive
@VisioRacer have you ever included in any episode of your bike series ANYTHING about VT500E? E is significant
Ahahaha... Try to ride a vmax 1200 like you stole it and see for yourself . 145hp on something built in the mid 80's and even then wasnt the best chassis layout prove how much fun can be danger ;)
Where are 2 stroke rockets from the 80-90s?
morini have a huge history
1:54 what a shit downshift.
This blows...i was hoping to see my honda c70 on that list! 😤
Suzuki TL 1000r or 1000 s, a horrible starter bike because of it vtwin
Am I missing a point? Every bike featured is powerful and fast, which is definitely a handful for any inexperienced rider. By that common sense, that goes to any powerful fast bikes. So what's so special about those 5 mentioned that makes them extra dangerous?
dont overthink it
I was looking at that benelli with the cafe racer color scheme, but ended up buying a z750. That is a beautiful (extremely nice sounding as well) bike but comes with the Italian baggage.
Thought this was yammie noob
Started on a CBR 1000F (136hp) rode it 1 year and sold it for a '00 A1 ZX-12R (192hp with Airram)
Been happy since (3 years) and will NEVER sell her... 😍
1st gen R1
"only 137hp" lol xD
I don't know who are these multiple championship winners who define beginner and pro bikes. If you can ride a bike safely, then it's a suitable bike for you. Don't give a fk to other people's opinion.
I did really like this list but I was half expecting the beautiful yet monstrous Kawasaki ZZR1100 to make it onto this video since it was once the fastest bike on the road for a time if I remember correctly. It so happens to be one of my favorites to ride too.
V twins and triples today are making tremendous amount of power than 2 decades ago!!!
Insert generic *I started out on a really fast liter bike and ran from the cops at 200 mph and never wrecked it because I am a big boy and I am so smart and cool* comment here
A 2005 Zx10r is still meant to be a bad ass. A lad I worked and rode with used to have one back in the day and he said it was a handful too
I got the ktm 990sm 2008, slighly newer then the 950. It's an absolute blast to ride
I'm not a motorbiker but to me that Benelli sounded like the clutch was slipping in the high revs or the rider was shifting quite sloppy
He was just keeping full throttle all the time
Italian bikes are good but they are also ''endless money pits''
Reason why the revs shoot up in the end of the run, was he leaned the bike over, then you get up on the side of the tires, and effectively reduce the roling distace of the wheel, therefore the wheel will rotate faster at the same speed :-) but i get why you would think that :-)
@@MC-Racing rubbish he was performing shit gearchanges he was keeping the revs on while dipping the clutch, just bad technique
My first bike was a 2010 Yamaha r1 hahaha way brutal than another of those
Hey Vis... Where you from? Hi from California....
👌👏
I started riding in my teens on a 2002 moto guzzi v11 lemans.
I don't call anything above 1000cc "beginner bike"
I tought
5 crazy bikes for begginers
😂😂
I’m sorry but these are just tempting
All the Beginner know what to buy now
3:22 what bike is that in the left?
I guess a MV Brutale.
What about the Honda Grom?
If you put 1199 engine on it
Is it a buell xb the bike you have on the thumbnail?
Replacements for 50cc mopeds.
Gen1 zx10r is a monster of a bike
The LC8 is a wonderful beast i love mine everyday a bit more. Best upgrade was the internals from the 950 Duke into my 950 Adventure R it gained 20% torque in the low and middle Rev. range. Ultimate Wheelie Machine!
The swap and tune was done by KTM Team West in Germany. Great Guys btw.
Nik Mii the superduke is a 990
Where is the cr500 dirt bike?
I'm missing the husqvarna 701 and the rg 500 two stroke Suzuki in that list.
701 is a fat boat
@@Olppa yo mamma is a.. Nah :D
4:14 till 4:32 for the win haha
All impressive
I had a Benelli TNT 899, and it was beautiful, really although it is not recommended to use it as a beginner motorcycle, I dared to use it as my first motorcycle (Although I did not recommend that others start with that motorcycle), both on the street and in circuit, and it was great ... The particular problems of profitability were due to the high amount of production of motorcycles but the low supply of parts, mechanics and problems in quality control.
At the end I change it for a Triumph Street Triple RX and an Aprilia Tuono 1100RR... But I still miss it
I bought one 899S last March. I still battle issues with idle, but man, what a bike it is!
@@vasek987 Nice! That issue happened to several models, more common with the 1130 (Trek and TNT) and it is a common problem with, and according to some people, the TPS affected that. What year is your 899S? You could try a TPS of the 899 later models, I know they had varied in that part.
@@DonCaraotica1693 It is original S version, that means 2008 with nice orange pearl colour and Marzocchi fork 😉 Initial issue was faulty stepper motor (common issue). I changed it but bikes tends to stall when warm due to the too low idle RPM (around 800 instead 1300). Now I am trying to get working diagnostic cable to try to modify map as it has on top of the idle problem also problem with running too rich - licence plate black from unburnt fuel and 8l/100km with running gentle.
after long time
4:17
What a noob locking the rear while braking..
@matheus bello : Don't take life too seriously bra 😂
Its called “backing it in” its a supermoto style of riding
The only bike that its correct on this top is the suzuki, the other are actual bikes full of ellectronic helps
And by "full of electronic" you mean electronic fuel injection, right?
The Morini has no rider aids.
Hey guys I've never ridden a motorcycle should I get a 1L?
Yes, of course.
@@vector6977 cool. I bought one and I died.
Do something about vintage snowmobiles!
yawns
Seriously?
In that case I want a video on chain saws.
well, you cant expect from a bike that has more than 100 hp to be a beginners bike xd.I get a yzf r125 as a first bike but its pretty hard to ride slowly if youre height is below 175 or 180 (im 17 yo so i can only ride 125cc)
Poor boy, you miss the 2 stroke 125cc!
125cc is meow meow category....
@@RodrigoBoschi There are 1 or 2 aprilia 2 stroke rs125s for sale in my country but I didnt bought them on a purpose.I heard they are so hard to maintain,I mean the parts are hard to find especially in my country,and expensive to maintain.So I bought an r125 but the crankshaft was broken after 1 month for no reason after buying it from another person(I guess it was already in bad condition)And so the bike is staying at my local mechanic for 3 months.I took a lesson from this situation:Never buy a motorcycle or a car when youre not working in a job and if everything is over- priced in your country and youre just studying hard for the university exam that will probably define your life.
@@deepdiamond5045 where are you from ?
I own my Aprilia rs 125 my 01 since 2003, I had other and bigger bikes but my rs is stil in my garage .
Yes, is a bike that require special attentions but you can do it yourself, is plain mechanical stuff .
Is really easy and skills come along with the bike
@@RodrigoBoschi Im from Turkey
*Heavy Breathing*
Turbo Hayabusa ?
☝