To those interested in these ideas lookup any lecture given by Dennis's late brother Terrence McKenna on their trip to south America. They focused on taking the mushroom experience to the absolute farthest extreme on that journey but Terrence speaks eloquently about how eventually it is clear that the mushrooms speak with a clear voice. Both brothers speak at length about dmt too. I miss Terrance - he was a brilliant yet beautiful soul overflowing with eloquence, compassion and possibly some true insight.
Well the idea of the Plants talking to people is not absurd. They do in a molecular level. The agreement between a mitochondria and cholorophill started by talking and not randomness. Unless one is sure that everything is random. The alpha helix structure is random but the chemical idea is not! Ayahuasca is not a coincidence
You should listen to the indigenous people, the plants told them. Intuition was deeper and much more profound than a western person can even imagine. Real intuitive eating can be utilized today.
Fascinating discussion! Dennis's body language might be a bit distracting, so try listening without watching. It would be incredible to hear Jordan Peterson's insights after an Ayahuasca experience himself. And yes, we all miss Terence McKenna-his unique perspective is sorely missed in conversations like these.
@divine.defined.Æsthetics there is a huge difference... Thirty minute trip while smoking or vaping starts with a rush and ends abruptly...The six hour trip is intense as fuck...its like being fully awake and lucid dreaming at the same time. Starts slowly and ends exactly when the lesson is over. Meeting the spirit of the source of DMT is scary and therapeutic at the same time, never felt vulnerable to the level i felt with DMT trip with Ayahausca compared to any other psychedelics. Three trips within a week is enough to come out as a transformed human being. The trips make hell a lot of sense and there is a continuity in these trips. Exactly like the way you feel with your therapist on follow ups after the first sitting. The spirit of the plant is who you want to meet in the trip. The spirit is different for mimosa hostilis sources DMT decotion Jurema and Ayahausca root sourced DMT.
Devine defined. What he was saying is that by smoking or injection, it is very fast acting and hard to process information. It’s been described as a nuclear cannon by some users. The ayahuasca form of dmt is a lot slower, some say like watching a film, so it’s easier to process afterwards.
It's interesting that God designed our body to block its effects if injested alone and that plants like a snake, advised on how to bypass this. Ponder on that. God bless
I think we are blessed with photographers, and painters, and artists in general, but I also think there is something about the soul in direct connection with the eye that reveals some of the beautiful images shared with the masses…I don’t really know, but I think some works are deeply intimate interactions with the everything that is..I don’t believe we’re all fools stumbling around, and only some of us make magical mystical discoveries. I believe the artist is often engaged in conversation with the everything that is..even us…I mean, how many times has a work of art moved you, or “spoken” to you?…was it an accident..totally random? (Are we too old for a new language that uses the same old words?) 🍻cheers
Psychedelic’s definitely have potential to deal with mental health symptoms like anxiety and depression, I would like to try them again but it’s just so hard to source here
Hi dr.jordan peterson.....i'm just curious about why you don't talking about psychotherapists like {albert ellis+aron t.beck+david burns.....and so many more}.....these are all guys who developed psychotherapy with their groundbreaking theories and practices......CBT+DBT+REBT....these are used to treat depression and other mental disorders and you are a clinical psychologist but you don't have any videos or lectures to talking about these things hope you making videos about them..
Your own body makes it and you can tap into that spiritual world, people are always looking for something outside of them to fill the inner void that only God can fill, one day they’ll understand.
even though I've struggled to hear or see into the spirit, I have before. I've also walked people through how to see and hear into the spirit into the third heaven where God has his throne. I've also encountered plants that exist there, by way of this, which are eager to give nutritional advice. we don't have a sense of how plants or animals can communicate to us spiritually because we've largely lost the desire to pursue an ascetic lifestyle. Ayahuasca sounds like a kind of shortcut to be sensitive to things which are there, in those other dimensions.
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I hope Jordan Peterson will with Dennis Mckenna take something that could help him with his challenges. I dislike his politics though I think he is kind in many ways. I think he suffers enough to take drugs to help him though perhaps he will take Iboga or something.
DMT and Ayahuasca aren't exactly the same thing. ...and Joe learned 80% of what he knows about DMT from this guy and his brother. Lmao Dennis McKenna's brother, Terrence was THE expert.
@@clicheguevara5282 Joe's first DMT experience was from a guy named Jan Irvin at logosmedia. They were friends and Jan was often on Joes podcast in the very early days when Joe was merely broadcasting from his bedroom on Skype call. Jan was associating closely with all the academic big names in psychedelics, was going to take up the academic mantle and write his own book and magnum opus about the topic from a supportive anthropological perspective. During his research he discovered a dark underbelly behing the western promotion of these substances and academic fraud on the part of the big name academics promoting it. When Jan confronted them about it, they did not answer his queries, but rejected him from the community and made him a pariah. Learning more if the actual facts, Jan later flipped in his support of these substances and the community that supports them. It is an interesting story.
The number one slot on my bucket list just changed to, before I die, having a ritualistic session of ayahuasca with Jordan Peterson LOL, seriously though...
You have to admit you have a very little idea of what talking with plants means....it is not a logical system as the one you are use to ,,,,it is analogical or... form base like the forgotten doctrine of signature of herbology ... i.e. the antidote to a poisonous snake bite is in a plant revealing a pattern simillar to snake skin design...this intuitive knowledge is used by miryad of animals using plants for food or medecine ...it is curious how we are the most easely poisoned or fooled...was this a price to pay by leaving the Garden ...the Vine of the Souls is not only an Imao,... it is a fear cleaning process required before accessing DMT realm...and from my perspective this is so much older that we can imagine...
If Satan can make a snake talk, he can make plants talk. Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour. The bible strictly forbids communication with the underworld but Satan is a clever little bugger and people are stupid to mess with these things. Everyone will believe sooner or later
Finally! Someone, who knows the bible and what spiritual dangers these substances bring to mankind. I think exactly these substances will lead many astray when legalized in the future. We don't need pharmakia, we need our Lord. We should never enter those easy-to-enter realms not to get fooled by demons masqueraded as angels of light. And why do I say this? Because my past was very interesting and God saved me in the last moment on the dead end path. I am a strong Christian faith apologist now and the more I study the dangers of the occult, the more I realize how intelligent satan is. Whatever is easy to get other ways than through the cross is not the way. God bless you!
@@TheXone7 we went from "this is your brain on drugs" to "essential" and "mandatory" all for your own good! Only Satan can confuse people like this. God never violates our free will, only Satan and his minions do. He hates God's creation and the human body is the temple of God.
A dangerous territory that is being walked. This topic can invite people into drug use which may lead them to a life of addiction. Better these topics be discussed privately to avoid our conscience being affected and the weight of our actions leading people down the wrong path. Intellectuals are starting to discuss this type of drug use as doing something positive for the greater good. Yet, I know many people who used hallucinagins and became addicts of different drugs, including heroin. Making drugs seem intellectual is a slippery slope, especially when a person with such a following where the followers hang on every word and then begin the dive into "safe" drug use under the guise of "self correction". Of course, intellectuals will argue that they never put it in their mouth or told them to sniff it, etc and thus "escape" their conscience. I'm a fan of Jordan. Just happen to have a different opinion about opening this "door". I believe God has called us to protect our senses to the degree we have control over them.. Jordan always talks about cleaning your room and being disciplined. The irony here.
poor mr. p. spends his time listening to people who laugh when they are told the people can communicate with plants and prefer to believe in random accidents....like evolution. such tiny boxes. do you think this dude took anything himself as his 'research?'. yeah guys it's all just an accident.
Oh, have no doubt. This dude has been blasting psychedelics for 40+ years at this point. The McKenna’s are pioneers of the whole modern hallucinogenic movement. His brother, Terence, was a much sharper fellow. He fully believed mushrooms communicate with humans. Not sure where Dennis is at on that, although I think he’s a bit more of a skeptic, I don’t actually think he was being fully dismissive of the idea that the plants could speak, as he mentioned right after, it seemed his laughter was more acknowledging that he’s aware of how that type of thought is perceived when presented as evidence in the west. 🙏🏻
To those interested in these ideas lookup any lecture given by Dennis's late brother Terrence McKenna on their trip to south America. They focused on taking the mushroom experience to the absolute farthest extreme on that journey but Terrence speaks eloquently about how eventually it is clear that the mushrooms speak with a clear voice. Both brothers speak at length about dmt too. I miss Terrance - he was a brilliant yet beautiful soul overflowing with eloquence, compassion and possibly some true insight.
its as if dennis learned NOTHING with his time spent with terrence. And to think dennis is the one we're left with smh
i love seeing jordan ask questions about a subject you can tell he's excited about
Well the idea of the Plants talking to people is not absurd. They do in a molecular level. The agreement between a mitochondria and cholorophill started by talking and not randomness. Unless one is sure that everything is random. The alpha helix structure is random but the chemical idea is not! Ayahuasca is not a coincidence
You should listen to the indigenous people, the plants told them. Intuition was deeper and much more profound than a western person can even imagine. Real intuitive eating can be utilized today.
Dr.Peterson, have you thought of speaking with Thomas Sowell?
While he's still alive...
Fascinating discussion! Dennis's body language might be a bit distracting, so try listening without watching. It would be incredible to hear Jordan Peterson's insights after an Ayahuasca experience himself. And yes, we all miss Terence McKenna-his unique perspective is sorely missed in conversations like these.
holy moly i heard this from the other room and though jbp was talking to randall carlson.
I didn't know that it needed some kind of MAOI inhibitor to be active. I'll have to save this to listen to it again. Interesting
Protein inhibitor when taken 45 minutes before consumption of any DMT source gives a great trip.
Hit up 👆the handle.Ever tried shrrr000ms before? @kodytrips got all kinds of shrooms, Isd, dmt, and other psychedelic stuffs
@divine.defined.Æsthetics there is a huge difference... Thirty minute trip while smoking or vaping starts with a rush and ends abruptly...The six hour trip is intense as fuck...its like being fully awake and lucid dreaming at the same time. Starts slowly and ends exactly when the lesson is over. Meeting the spirit of the source of DMT is scary and therapeutic at the same time, never felt vulnerable to the level i felt with DMT trip with Ayahausca compared to any other psychedelics.
Three trips within a week is enough to come out as a transformed human being. The trips make hell a lot of sense and there is a continuity in these trips. Exactly like the way you feel with your therapist on follow ups after the first sitting.
The spirit of the plant is who you want to meet in the trip. The spirit is different for mimosa hostilis sources DMT decotion Jurema and Ayahausca root sourced DMT.
Devine defined. What he was saying is that by smoking or injection, it is very fast acting and hard to process information. It’s been described as a nuclear cannon by some users. The ayahuasca form of dmt is a lot slower, some say like watching a film, so it’s easier to process afterwards.
It's interesting that God designed our body to block its effects if injested alone and that plants like a snake, advised on how to bypass this. Ponder on that. God bless
Wow! Even after 500 Ayahuasca ceremonies, Dennis cant believe the plants directed the people to brew Ayahuasuaca. Once a gringo, always a gringo 😂
I think we are blessed with photographers, and painters, and artists in general, but I also think there is something about the soul in direct connection with the eye that reveals some of the beautiful images shared with the masses…I don’t really know, but I think some works are deeply intimate interactions with the everything that is..I don’t believe we’re all fools stumbling around, and only some of us make magical mystical discoveries. I believe the artist is often engaged in conversation with the everything that is..even us…I mean, how many times has a work of art moved you, or “spoken” to you?…was it an accident..totally random? (Are we too old for a new language that uses the same old words?)
🍻cheers
🙏🏻
its like dennis learned NOTHING from terrence. Like they might as well have blood relating them but nothing else.
Psychedelic’s definitely have potential to deal with mental health symptoms like anxiety and depression, I would like to try them again but it’s just so hard to source here
[_James_tray]
Got psychs
@@sarahh321
Where to search?? Is it IG?
@@Jerryberger9235 Yes
@@sarahh321 Thank you, I’ll check him out
Temporarily escaping reality and neglecting personal responsibility is more detrimental than beneficial, especially concerning “mental health”.
I drank ayahuasca many times with the shaman from the Chuar Tribe Hilario Chiriap. It took me through hell but it saved my life.
How did you reach them? I want to try with a reputable shaman
@@smartypants6198 come to brasil
I would love to know the actual percentage for how it was created …. 1 and 300000? Or more ?
Hi dr.jordan peterson.....i'm just curious about why you don't talking about psychotherapists like {albert ellis+aron t.beck+david burns.....and so many more}.....these are all guys who developed psychotherapy with their groundbreaking theories and practices......CBT+DBT+REBT....these are used to treat depression and other mental disorders and you are a clinical psychologist but you don't have any videos or lectures to talking about these things
hope you making videos about them..
Just as intelligent now as we were then, just in a different kind if way
no lol they were much more intelligent
Your own body makes it and you can tap into that spiritual world, people are always looking for something outside of them to fill the inner void that only God can fill, one day they’ll understand.
You body is 70% water. You still need to drink water. Lol
God doesn't exist.
@@jurjcluners8490 we are God perhaps if you open up your consciousness you will see that. Try it and maybe you'll see
@@josephdorino8250 lol yeah ok champ
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even though I've struggled to hear or see into the spirit, I have before. I've also walked people through how to see and hear into the spirit into the third heaven where God has his throne. I've also encountered plants that exist there, by way of this, which are eager to give nutritional advice. we don't have a sense of how plants or animals can communicate to us spiritually because we've largely lost the desire to pursue an ascetic lifestyle. Ayahuasca sounds like a kind of shortcut to be sensitive to things which are there, in those other dimensions.
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"Orally active DMT..."
-Joe Rogan has entered the chat
Your mum’s orally active.
I'm ready for Jordan to learn about crack
I hope Jordan Peterson will with Dennis Mckenna take something that could help him with his challenges. I dislike his politics though I think he is kind in many ways. I think he suffers enough to take drugs to help him though perhaps he will take Iboga or something.
Funny thing is, Jordan could've just asked Joe Rogan about this and he would've received an equally valid response. Man is a DMT expert. Lol
DMT and Ayahuasca aren't exactly the same thing. ...and Joe learned 80% of what he knows about DMT from this guy and his brother. Lmao
Dennis McKenna's brother, Terrence was THE expert.
@@clicheguevara5282 what happened to his brother?
@@jackjack4412 He died of brain cancer.
@@jackjack4412 Died from brain cancer.
@@clicheguevara5282 Joe's first DMT experience was from a guy named Jan Irvin at logosmedia. They were friends and Jan was often on Joes podcast in the very early days when Joe was merely broadcasting from his bedroom on Skype call. Jan was associating closely with all the academic big names in psychedelics, was going to take up the academic mantle and write his own book and magnum opus about the topic from a supportive anthropological perspective. During his research he discovered a dark underbelly behing the western promotion of these substances and academic fraud on the part of the big name academics promoting it. When Jan confronted them about it, they did not answer his queries, but rejected him from the community and made him a pariah. Learning more if the actual facts, Jan later flipped in his support of these substances and the community that supports them. It is an interesting story.
What happens if we mix them!?…. The tribe proceeds to get “higher” 😂
I don’t care. Only fools order drugs from the internet.
Educated guess?! If you don't believe plants can speak to you, you have not taken enough Ayahuasca.
Demonic.
I loveeee him :3
Sound's like a departure from strict carnivore .
Hit up 👆the handle.Ever tried shrrr000ms before? @kodytrips got all kinds of shrooms, Isd, dmt, and other psychedelic stuffs
The number one slot on my bucket list just changed to, before I die, having a ritualistic session of ayahuasca with Jordan Peterson LOL, seriously though...
I am sure it took a lot of experiments till they got it right maybe all the Myans and all the rest just jumped off the mountain lol
Bunch of apes, just mixin shit together to see what happens. Love it!
You have to admit you have a very little idea of what talking with plants means....it is not a logical system as the one you are use to ,,,,it is analogical or... form base like the forgotten doctrine of signature of herbology ... i.e. the antidote to a poisonous snake bite is in a plant revealing a pattern simillar to snake skin design...this intuitive knowledge is used by miryad of animals using plants for food or medecine ...it is curious how we are the most easely poisoned or fooled...was this a price to pay by leaving the Garden ...the Vine of the Souls is not only an Imao,... it is a fear cleaning process required before accessing DMT realm...and from my perspective this is so much older that we can imagine...
If Satan can make a snake talk, he can make plants talk.
Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour.
The bible strictly forbids communication with the underworld but Satan is a clever little bugger and people are stupid to mess with these things.
Everyone will believe sooner or later
Finally! Someone, who knows the bible and what spiritual dangers these substances bring to mankind. I think exactly these substances will lead many astray when legalized in the future. We don't need pharmakia, we need our Lord. We should never enter those easy-to-enter realms not to get fooled by demons masqueraded as angels of light. And why do I say this? Because my past was very interesting and God saved me in the last moment on the dead end path. I am a strong Christian faith apologist now and the more I study the dangers of the occult, the more I realize how intelligent satan is. Whatever is easy to get other ways than through the cross is not the way. God bless you!
@@TheXone7 we went from "this is your brain on drugs" to "essential" and "mandatory" all for your own good! Only Satan can confuse people like this.
God never violates our free will, only Satan and his minions do.
He hates God's creation and the human body is the temple of God.
@@AnnaAnnieAnneofGreenGables Exactly! Very wise to see it like this.
We need to collectively stop being Satan's minions.
God wins in the end.
It's just a matter of body count.
Save your souls and don't ignore an s.o.s.
A dangerous territory that is being walked. This topic can invite people into drug use which may lead them to a life of addiction. Better these topics be discussed privately to avoid our conscience being affected and the weight of our actions leading people down the wrong path. Intellectuals are starting to discuss this type of drug use as doing something positive for the greater good. Yet, I know many people who used hallucinagins and became addicts of different drugs, including heroin. Making drugs seem intellectual is a slippery slope, especially when a person with such a following where the followers hang on every word and then begin the dive into "safe" drug use under the guise of "self correction". Of course, intellectuals will argue that they never put it in their mouth or told them to sniff it, etc and thus "escape" their conscience. I'm a fan of Jordan. Just happen to have a different opinion about opening this "door". I believe God has called us to protect our senses to the degree we have control over them.. Jordan always talks about cleaning your room and being disciplined. The irony here.
poor mr. p. spends his time listening to people who laugh when they are told the people can communicate with plants and prefer to believe in random accidents....like evolution. such tiny boxes. do you think this dude took anything himself as his 'research?'. yeah guys it's all just an accident.
Oh, have no doubt. This dude has been blasting psychedelics for 40+ years at this point. The McKenna’s are pioneers of the whole modern hallucinogenic movement. His brother, Terence, was a much sharper fellow. He fully believed mushrooms communicate with humans. Not sure where Dennis is at on that, although I think he’s a bit more of a skeptic, I don’t actually think he was being fully dismissive of the idea that the plants could speak, as he mentioned right after, it seemed his laughter was more acknowledging that he’s aware of how that type of thought is perceived when presented as evidence in the west. 🙏🏻
Basically, they was just tryna git fuuucked up.
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As if JP knows what he's talking about lol. Surprising McKenna is giving him the time of day.