I remember at LAN parties with my buddies in like 2006 I'd build one dock on Mediterranean and periodically just go and click on it a bunch of times so from the next room by buddy would just be hearing the dock sound rattling off like I was deploying some huge navy just to make him nervous about his coastline ;-)
I like to believe that MSG In my mouth is never lying... he always actually wanted to pick magyars but accidently clicks milay, he's just done it so much that he is good with mily now :P
The reason he says "I wanted magyars" is because he doesn't want people to start thinking "why did he take malay in a map without water?". He wants to eliminate the possibility of them anticipating some kind of crazy strategy, and wants them to think that only mainstream strategies are coming. It's smart.
I had met this guy before in Arena, he said GG in the very beginning but keep playing. Then 20 Elepehanto rush in Castle age. Thanks to the Monks I rush for relics and Arena stone walls, all the elephants are converted.
Even the friendly first “hey man” Primes him as the weaker party to the interaction. It’s a masterwork in manipulation. The opponent will be influenced to feel superior and they can take it easy. Fc, boom etc.
I am a way lower ELO player than MSG in my mouth, and this is EXACTLY the same strategy I go for (except for the chat part). Love to see a higher ranked player using the same strat I came up with. Keep pumping those tanky boys!
A couple of months ago (so cannot find replay and send it to you:( ) I played a hilarious game as Celts against Malay. He went all-in elephants as on the video (without any chat though), and I went all-in pike-siege. The map was symmetric, and we picked different sides, so both bases were destroyed by 25 minutes of the game, and we both had only a dozen of wandering homeless vils. In the end I won cause I found and destroyed two his new tc-s, while he found only one of mine+original, so I was able to reboom enough to afford two barracks non-stop pikes.
I’m 950 elo and I’ve had this happen to me in hideout, they must preferred map hideout because I had Arabia as mine. Anyways due to the slower age times at my elo he attacked at around 25 minutes with 25ish elephants and destroyed me
I believe we can blame HumzaCrumza for this! th-cam.com/video/YOo9puOyiHM/w-d-xo.html I watched it as a meme strat awhile ago. I was always tempted to try it, but I didn't think it would help me improve in the slightest XD
I already died by this strats with both Malay and khmer players, kinda anyoning because, I could not predict because the stable were hiding inside base
He's doing the "20 elephants by 20 minute" build order for Malay, it specifically says to hide your stables so the enemy can't prepare until it's too late.
Some things about the message in the thumbnail makes it really funny for some reason. The "oh man" giving an idea of the tone of the message, the lack of proper capitalization and punctuation, and the cherry on top, the misspelling of Magyars. Comedy gold.
Donald J. Trump - "Look, having nuclear - my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart - you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I’m one of the smartest people anywhere in the world - it’s true! - but when you’re a conservative Republican they try - oh, do they do a number - that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune - you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged - but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me - it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are - nuclear is so powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what’s going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? - but when you look at what’s going on with the four prisoners - now it used to be three, now it’s four - but when it was three and even now, I would have said it’s all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don’t, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years - but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us, this is horrible."
thanks T90!! You do probably the best job of any TH-camr I follow doing both twitch and TH-cam. I will be tuning in for the 24 hour stream tomorrow. I am looking forward to it!
"magyard" that would immediately put me on edge. Ive played enough Mario Maker to know what seemingly innocent spelling 'mistakes' actually mean. edit: It means thwomps. A lot of them. Usually on your head.
Was gonna comment the same. There's been a steam workshop guide on this build for awhile now. steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2102112204
All's fair in AOE2. Everyone can appreciate someone who's put a lot of effort into something novel. It doesn't feel bad because it's kind of like, "oh wow, I didn't know it worked that way". There's always something new to discover within its quirky inner workings. AOE is this odd artifact that seems to always yield new little insights, however long you keep looking. Even the Blue Coffee chat diplo is wonderful because it's actually part of his BUILD! Honestly it feels less bad than being silently hammered in other games where they remove communication because people can't be civil. I think it's a fantastic reflection of a fantastic community. It's a whole boatload of well humored people meming on each other endlessly. Great fun, 11/10.
Its okay, he is not being honest, but remember the "Advanced to x age?"-thing... and we all find that funny and a legit strag. So I think its okay. Its not cheating, its just trying to push the other player psychologically and that's part of the game. :)
@T90Official There is an old spanish saying that reads. "En el amor y en la guerra, todo se vale." It translates to something like "In love and in war, everything goes."
Hey man, I like how this guy rolls. I think it's great that people do wacky builds and weird chat shenanigans in this game. There's no right or wrong way to play, just have fun. I think stuff like this makes the community more interesting and can even advance the game. I just hope people aren't too salty if they get bamboozled because honestly it's hilarious.
Scouting. If you understand his strat soon enough, you can go for pikemen. An early rush could also destroy his plan or at least allow you to know what he is doing.
i mean, if you knew the person beforehand you can counter the person, otherwise, have some units patrol by the gates and go for pike as soon as you see the elephants, pull vills out to other tc's probably.
ive seen this strat and even pull it of many times before, the diference is that i learned it from vinchester (Hideout aoelympics vs me), where he goes KHMER instead of MALAY, GOES 19pop up, does some eco and clicks to castle age, sends a foward vill to build stables and a siege workshop, so you get elepants and rams (1tc) and if you dont see i coming, you are screwed. Its a nice strat.
Omg this is exactly what I am doing, I put way more scorpions though. Elephants are hands down the coolest unit ever, and Khmer have lots of variaety, it sucks that on high elo games due to the meta, nobody plays them. I love low elos because you can actually have some fun with elephants.
I played him a few months ago. He didn’t say anything. I wasn’t sure what Malay do on hideout, but I remembered “Malay need to delay.” So, I went full knights one tc with tuetons and he killed around 10 knights and then barely took out my tc and then took my two panic tcs for the win.
As a Goth regular - that doesn't really scare me. I'll spam pikes - I usually build 5 or so spears early in feudal, for possible incoming scout rushes, or knight rushes in castle. But yes - not ethical at all.
back when i played starcraft 2 i named myself "Honest" and intentionally picked the default avatar, proceeding to make the cheesiest builds. believe me this tactic worked and had an effect on people, their rage always referenced my game tag name. to me this kind of tactics make the game more interesting, it adds an additional dimension to innovate in. it is one of the reasons i like the politics in ffa's still there is always a line to be crossed, and i think stuff like: "i have a psychopath in my house, if i lose this game he will kill my children" is beyond the line of civil society
He misspells Magyars the same way every time. Even that is part of the build order
I wonder if he has a copy paste file. Sells it as more convincing.
I guess it make it look like he's mad and typing fast
macros xD
Hi
@@maxlap7855 Yes exactly
I remember at LAN parties with my buddies in like 2006 I'd build one dock on Mediterranean and periodically just go and click on it a bunch of times so from the next room by buddy would just be hearing the dock sound rattling off like I was deploying some huge navy just to make him nervous about his coastline ;-)
Wow!
saaaame, only in the same room and you weren't allowed to turn around
hahahaahaa!
Ajajajahahaha
I would do this same thing but with barracks, stables, etc. !
Don't you feel sometimes T90 is like a biologist exploring the jungle, trying to find new interesting specimen for the world to see?
Kheros you are so absolutely right. "And here is the Ragged Bat. He fools his victims into thinking the is dead then attacks."
That’s why he’s dating a blubber biologist
No
You high asf
Crikey, it’s an elephant spammer!
I like to believe that MSG In my mouth is never lying... he always actually wanted to pick magyars but accidently clicks milay, he's just done it so much that he is good with mily now :P
just getting increasingly frustrated because his game is bugged and every time he tries to click magyars, it corrects to malay
looool
I'd like to think such things about many people too, but unfortunately you need to realise that a LOT of people are selfish and assholes.
@@Toopa88 the OP doesn't mean that literally, he was joking
@@Toopa88 I don't see anything about him that is neither selfish nor a**hole.
This strat. reminds me of when a player types in chat, "Advanced to castle Age." XD
Lol that's the best
"All warfare is based on deception"
- Sun Tzu.
@@danielboot4362 Nope, Blue Coffee said that first.
@@ihernandez4234 my bad haha.
this level of deception makes a decepticon want him as their pet.
@@danielboot4362 you just got decepted
I should try imitating him (calling myself like that, picking malay, misspelling magyard, chat behaviour, etc.) and then archer rush.
Made my day
Now everybody will know this srat
BREAKING THE META-BREAKER
Oh shit
The magyard meta is developing!
Liar: oh man I wanted to play magyard
Mark: oh man well at least your elephants are good
Liar concedes
The reason he says "I wanted magyars" is because he doesn't want people to start thinking "why did he take malay in a map without water?". He wants to eliminate the possibility of them anticipating some kind of crazy strategy, and wants them to think that only mainstream strategies are coming. It's smart.
“Hey man”
Hey now, I am Malays, wanted to pick Mah-Gyars, hey now, you are dead now
Malay are actually good on that map unlike magyars.
@@britneyspheres7yearsago11 Mah-Gyard*
Exactly, it's not to make the opponent relax, it's to prevent the opponent from anticipating this very, very Malay-specific strategy.
The legend of "hey man"
T90Official: I am going to end this Legends entire career in one video
A career ruined for $24
hell yeah
"The legend of MSG in my mouth"
- T90Official
msg also known as e621 owo
@@aleph1057 furry detected, launch the nuclear missiles
typo is to induce players to think he's typing fast because he is ''distracted'' it adds to the feeling he's actually saying the truth
"This is the 16th time we have spammed elephants, and we have become exceedingly efficient at it."
Hoang: Hey Man
I don't know how to play Celts
Oh yeah, their lumberjacks cut fast
Haha siege eat TC
Hoang to Viper: hey man, how does the sheep bonus work?
😂
Ah yes, the 20 minute Ultralisk rush. A favorite classic strategy.
Hoang: Hey man
Hoang: I wanted to pick chinese...
Hoang: DONT KNOW HOW TO CELTS :((((
CELTD*
I love this kind of weird strategies. They are so fun to watch😂
I keep trying this strat, but I go too hard with openers like "This call of duty looks old, how sprint?"
11!
alt + f4
> you play him
> he actually picks "magyard"
0_0
Jojo ending theme starts playing.
I had met this guy before in Arena, he said GG in the very beginning but keep playing. Then 20 Elepehanto rush in Castle age. Thanks to the Monks I rush for relics and Arena stone walls, all the elephants are converted.
He writes "magyard" because when you misspell words you look kinda noobish.
Magyar Huzzar? More like Magyard Hustler!
i am nigeria princes i hev menoy but ned ur help to get it if you sendme 100$ i can get meney and send it you 3000$.
s and d keys are right next to each other too
Even the friendly first “hey man”
Primes him as the weaker party to the interaction.
It’s a masterwork in manipulation. The opponent will be influenced to feel superior and they can take it easy. Fc, boom etc.
It's probably just copy paste
Malay player: "hey man"
*nervous sweating*
I'd rather lose to this guy than the guy who doinks my sheep with his scout. I'd probably be laughing as I typed gg
T90 this should have been the Legend of “Hey man” missed opportunity
T90, if you try this strat for us, you have to do the "I meant to pick Magyards" part too. 😆
I am a way lower ELO player than MSG in my mouth, and this is EXACTLY the same strategy I go for (except for the chat part). Love to see a higher ranked player using the same strat I came up with. Keep pumping those tanky boys!
When I saw he was malay I immediatly thought "please don't show the 20 elephants in 20 minutes build from humzacrumza so I can still wreck noobs"
Fascinating. It's like a ghost reliving the same moment from his past again and again
But if MSG IN MY MOUTH was dead, who phone??!
A couple of months ago (so cannot find replay and send it to you:( ) I played a hilarious game as Celts against Malay. He went all-in elephants as on the video (without any chat though), and I went all-in pike-siege. The map was symmetric, and we picked different sides, so both bases were destroyed by 25 minutes of the game, and we both had only a dozen of wandering homeless vils.
In the end I won cause I found and destroyed two his new tc-s, while he found only one of mine+original, so I was able to reboom enough to afford two barracks non-stop pikes.
You should send it to t90
That’s a well known build order that was shared on reddit a couple of weeks ago. Beautifully executed.
The humza build
"Hey Man"
*chuckles*
"I'm in danger"
*the earth begins to shake under the feet of 20 elephants*
what if it's a girl ?
@@bilythebest Impossible, there are only men on the internet xD
@@bilythebest he resigns
I have something for you, Lenny... Simpson.
I’m 950 elo and I’ve had this happen to me in hideout, they must preferred map hideout because I had Arabia as mine. Anyways due to the slower age times at my elo he attacked at around 25 minutes with 25ish elephants and destroyed me
Thoughts on this strategy? It cracks me up that someone would do this so consistently!
I believe we can blame HumzaCrumza for this! th-cam.com/video/YOo9puOyiHM/w-d-xo.html I watched it as a meme strat awhile ago. I was always tempted to try it, but I didn't think it would help me improve in the slightest XD
Hilarious! Busy weekend, but hope to be able to stop by the stream! Have fun!
This is just gorgeous. I love it when people play non-social deduction games like they are social deduction games.
I already died by this strats with both Malay and khmer players, kinda anyoning because, I could not predict because the stable were hiding inside base
Did you see VIPER cast one of your games on his stream last night, called it low elo legends..
"All war is based on deception." -Some guy a while ago. If they have the ability to chat to each other, its fair game.
The player HumzaCrumza has a build order for 20 elephants in 20 minutes and this is very similar
"He had me in the first half, ngl" strat
He's doing the "20 elephants by 20 minute" build order for Malay, it specifically says to hide your stables so the enemy can't prepare until it's too late.
let's call it "The Malay douche"
@@patrickswann2544 mouche
Never trust any one say" Hey man" as ice breaker.
Some things about the message in the thumbnail makes it really funny for some reason.
The "oh man" giving an idea of the tone of the message, the lack of proper capitalization and punctuation, and the cherry on top, the misspelling of Magyars. Comedy gold.
Haven't watched the full video yet, but I already know it's gonna be gud
Sun tzu - "All warfare is based on deception"
Donald J. Trump - "Look, having nuclear - my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart - you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I’m one of the smartest people anywhere in the world - it’s true! - but when you’re a conservative Republican they try - oh, do they do a number - that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune - you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged - but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me - it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are - nuclear is so powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what’s going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? - but when you look at what’s going on with the four prisoners - now it used to be three, now it’s four - but when it was three and even now, I would have said it’s all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don’t, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years - but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us, this is horrible."
Credit where it's due - "I don't know how to Malay" is a fantastic pun.
This Elephant rush is super awkward to fight when caught off guard. Wasn't a lier like this guy but Elephant rush from Khmer kicked my butt
You know, I love that us yt plebs get these, but man I love watching twitch chat react
The dedication to misspelling magyars every time 11
thanks T90!! You do probably the best job of any TH-camr I follow doing both twitch and TH-cam.
I will be tuning in for the 24 hour stream tomorrow. I am looking forward to it!
Those Elephant Rampages happened to me all the time in Age of Mythology :)
Nice the see the strategy in Age 2 as well!
"magyard" that would immediately put me on edge. Ive played enough Mario Maker to know what seemingly innocent spelling 'mistakes' actually mean.
edit: It means thwomps. A lot of them. Usually on your head.
Thwomps, elephants, to-may-to, to-mah-to
I'm glad to see your free time is now being consumed by looking at endless recorded games XD
Loved these! Keep em coming
He is doing this with Persians now! He is saying he didn't choose the Civ - At least Persians have better Cavalry... Then Boom TC Drop.
Magyard when they meet Magmeter 😮
Spoilers for the vid:
I called the "20 elephants in 20 min" strat, it's a build order that has been out there for awhile.
Was gonna comment the same. There's been a steam workshop guide on this build for awhile now.
steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2102112204
I love the "magyard" it makes it look like he was typing it in a hurry. Makes it look like he's playing frantically trying to change strategy.
legend of wall vs legend of liar would be amazing to watch
I remember this build order being posted to reddit a few months ago, it's actually really fun to do.
Great, now that you exposed him, he can't use the trick anymore :'D
People still fall for Blue Coffee and Fatslob
That's what a new account is for.
Or he can just change his name
Also not everyone watches T90 (sad but true) and not everyone that does watches every video
I dunno, he's got a pretty solid strat
its really the Art of Deception on Display here... he does this to put the opponent at ease and not catch him off gaurd with his elephant rush
All's fair in AOE2. Everyone can appreciate someone who's put a lot of effort into something novel. It doesn't feel bad because it's kind of like, "oh wow, I didn't know it worked that way". There's always something new to discover within its quirky inner workings. AOE is this odd artifact that seems to always yield new little insights, however long you keep looking. Even the Blue Coffee chat diplo is wonderful because it's actually part of his BUILD! Honestly it feels less bad than being silently hammered in other games where they remove communication because people can't be civil. I think it's a fantastic reflection of a fantastic community. It's a whole boatload of well humored people meming on each other endlessly. Great fun, 11/10.
There is a BO of this in the HumzaCrumza channel here in YT. Im pretty sure he got it from there, I wanted to try it too 11
yes, i saw humza crumza's infamous build order few months back and i i tried this with my friends and it works without lying!!!
There’s a TH-camr called Humzacrumza that has the elephant rush build order for Hideout... I used it to get up to 1250 but people became too smart
its insane to me how people come up with such strategies. love it.
Perfect "1" taunt 0:06
Its okay, he is not being honest, but remember the "Advanced to x age?"-thing... and we all find that funny and a legit strag. So I think its okay. Its not cheating, its just trying to push the other player psychologically and that's part of the game. :)
"That would be a long TH-cam video"
Uploads 3+ hour community games ...
Great Video. Very entertaining having you find the unusual characters with weird strategies for us to view. thanks
@T90Official There is an old spanish saying that reads. "En el amor y en la guerra, todo se vale."
It translates to something like "In love and in war, everything goes."
Hey man,
I like how this guy rolls. I think it's great that people do wacky builds and weird chat shenanigans in this game. There's no right or wrong way to play, just have fun. I think stuff like this makes the community more interesting and can even advance the game. I just hope people aren't too salty if they get bamboozled because honestly it's hilarious.
I REALLY want to see a game where The Liar loses. I'd love to see how to counter this strat.
I'd bet if you went all in on pikes as soon as you realized he was fast castling you'd win pretty easily.
House wall/stone double monastery/1 barracks to protect monks. 5 monks behind walls destroy this. 10 vils on gold.
Scouting. If you understand his strat soon enough, you can go for pikemen.
An early rush could also destroy his plan or at least allow you to know what he is doing.
@@MrMorvana There really isn't a way to scout it on Hideout. He kept the stables hidden out of view behind the pallisides.
i mean, if you knew the person beforehand you can counter the person, otherwise, have some units patrol by the gates and go for pike as soon as you see the elephants, pull vills out to other tc's probably.
Love you T90. Thank you for the content.
ive seen this strat and even pull it of many times before, the diference is that i learned it from vinchester (Hideout aoelympics vs me), where he goes KHMER instead of MALAY, GOES 19pop up, does some eco and clicks to castle age, sends a foward vill to build stables and a siege workshop, so you get elepants and rams (1tc) and if you dont see i coming, you are screwed. Its a nice strat.
MSG：I wanted Magyard
Fat Dragon: ME NOOB, U SO BANG, U CAN OK
Brace yourself, I think a lot of players will choose Malay this week. The elephants are coming.
no one expects spanish inquisition
Just get some monks ready and protect them with pike.
Omg this is exactly what I am doing, I put way more scorpions though. Elephants are hands down the coolest unit ever, and Khmer have lots of variaety, it sucks that on high elo games due to the meta, nobody plays them. I love low elos because you can actually have some fun with elephants.
Love u a lot T90. Gonna join your 24hr stream tomorrow
This strat is hilarious, getting minor Blue Coffee/Fatslob vibes from MSG. Please do a follow up video, really want to see what happens on other maps.
I think the 20 elephants in 20 min strat has been out there already, just never really used by anyone too seriously, specially high ranks.
yeah that's been a thing for aaaaages.
Then there must be a good counter.
your videos are so amazing i slept through whole day
Hyped for the 24 hour stream!
"Pushed in his ibix" Do you need to see a doctor for that?
Wait you can see chat in DE now?
only on recs
from the art of deception to the legend of the liar. wonderful!
Even the typo is the same in his psichological warfare :-D love it.
The fact that he bothered to mention he meant to pick another civ is suspicious enough.
Considering the map it doesn't look suspicious. But typing it at 3 mins in suspicious.
Not suspicious at all. Fits perfectly. He's coming across as a panicky, good natured teenager. Brilliant.
The weird thing I noticed is he misspells Magyars the same way every time in his early messages
That's because you look more noobish when you make spelling mistakes.
This is one of the funniest video I've seen in a long time :)
It doesn't cross a line, he's using chat as the weapon of war it is. And being polite too.
10:40 "good thing we're not uploading this to youtube" uhhhhh
Did you see VIPER cast one of your games on his stream last night, called it low elo legends..
that was awesome
I played him a few months ago. He didn’t say anything. I wasn’t sure what Malay do on hideout, but I remembered “Malay need to delay.” So, I went full knights one tc with tuetons and he killed around 10 knights and then barely took out my tc and then took my two panic tcs for the win.
Lying doesnt matter that much , dude just has a great strategy
how great it is? seem it only works on this map
@@TheMaulam12345 yes thats true tho i think it you could do it on some other easy wallable maps
As a Goth regular - that doesn't really scare me. I'll spam pikes - I usually build 5 or so spears early in feudal, for possible incoming scout rushes, or knight rushes in castle. But yes - not ethical at all.
Damn the first guy actually called gg I would have just quit.
MY GUY.. LMAO!! THIS DOESN'T NEED JUST A FOLLOW UP VIDEO... THIS NEEDS A SERIES! 😂
fear not the man who has practiced a thousand kicks, but the one who has practiced one kick 1 thousand times. Clearly all he need is the elephant rush
FIRST
YEAHHHHH FINALLY
he's too dangerous to be left alive!
back when i played starcraft 2 i named myself "Honest" and intentionally picked the default avatar, proceeding to make the cheesiest builds.
believe me this tactic worked and had an effect on people, their rage always referenced my game tag name.
to me this kind of tactics make the game more interesting, it adds an additional dimension to innovate in.
it is one of the reasons i like the politics in ffa's
still there is always a line to be crossed, and i think stuff like: "i have a psychopath in my house, if i lose this game he will kill my children" is beyond the line of civil society
Psychological warfare
Im not a huge RTS fan, but I adore goofy strategies and mind games