My Home Lab Is NOT What You Think It Is

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  • @HardwareHaven
    @HardwareHaven  ปีที่แล้ว +121

    *** FAQ/Corrections! ***
    - I've had a lot of comments asking why I didn't use a UPS. I cut out a lot of footage including some where I re-ran cables for power and mentioned the UPS. At 14:15, you can see it mounted to the wall on the bottom left. It's not a great UPS and I plan to upgrade it later on.
    - I definitely shouldn't have been trimming the punch ins while cables were connected to my router. I trimmed the first while it was unplugged but forgot the second one was still plugged in.
    - I probably should've unplugged the switch when talking about the power supply issue, but I'm usually really warry of touching anything power related even when something is unplugged. I wasn't ever close to actually touching anything on that board, but it still wasn't a good way to present that.
    - A keystone jack would've been easier, but I liked having a more "permanent solution" and buying all the keystones would've been more expensive (at least when I priced stuff out a while back).
    I appreciate criticism and try not to shy away from it (at least when it's presented with good intentions), so thanks to all the great comments that have pointed out details I might've missed.

    • @Nobe_Oddy
      @Nobe_Oddy ปีที่แล้ว +5

      you might be able to find that PoE board that's only giving 1V on eBay.... it's probably easier to just replace it than to hunt down the exact piece that's fried... PLUS you aren't really solving the problem by replacing the broken piece... what caused it to fry? ... BUT since I'm TOTALLY NEW HERE and this is my first video I've watched from you I have NO IDEA your skill set and finding and replacing components could be your specialty lol ...
      - - I only brought this up because something similar happened to me with an audio amplifier and I spent so long chasing down the problem, I'd replace the fried cap only for it to fry again 2 days later, and then replacing mosfets and the same thing happening.... after nearly 2 weeks of this I just looked up the board number on eBay and found it for $15 and it's been going good for over a year LOL
      - and I know just how helpful PoE is so not having it a huge headache... so luckily you got the other box to get the PoE up and running.... :)
      - -- OH BTW why did you cut the ends off the RJ45's and patch it that way when you could have just got a dual female patch panel and not had to cut anything? OR am I forgetting that this wouldn't work?? I know you have to flip 2 wires if you go from one computer to another without a router (the name of the cable is on the tip of my tongue... BAH!) so does this come into play here and that's why you chose to do it the way you did? Or was it just that you had that patch 'bay' on hand and didn't wanna buy a new one? lol
      :)

    • @jacobmorse2564
      @jacobmorse2564 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @Nobe_Oddy I think you’re looking for crossover cable. There are female to female crossover adapters that keystone and all that, but those wouldn’t be required here. This is a straight through connection every time. You’d only really use crossover to go NIC to NIC, one pc to another pc. The switches manage the data pins for you, so you’d really want to just extend the existing cable. Newer NICs can also handle the data in any standard CAT configuration, so crossover may not even be necessary any more in most cases.
      I agree with the rest of your statements though, and only trying to share some knowledge 😅

  • @BrickBarny
    @BrickBarny ปีที่แล้ว +280

    "My home lab is not what you think it is." - Walter White

    • @crazygamerkasten9748
      @crazygamerkasten9748 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      this needs more likes

    • @funkijote
      @funkijote 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He has contributed to a habit that is ruining me financially, physically and emotionally, while straining my relationships and keeping me from my responsibilities. Homelab tinkering can really wreck your life. Check on your kids, talk to them about the dangers.

    • @ddnguyen278
      @ddnguyen278 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      H.H. who do you figure that is.. Howard Hughes, Herbert Hover..

  • @Garbage-junk
    @Garbage-junk ปีที่แล้ว +128

    That patch panel is why I got a keystone patch panel instead of a punch down. But I really need to get a 1U brush panel as well.

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I considered it, but I’m pretty sure it ended up being cheaper and I don’t mind it being more “permanent”.

    • @glonch
      @glonch ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I was a direct punchdown guy for years... a friend of mine said that I HAVE to try keystones. Oh... yeah... about that.... friggin awesome solution... never going back

    • @jstro-hobbytech
      @jstro-hobbytech ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He doesn't know how to use a multimeter or ohms law. Just saying as he's likeable. You know it's a job when you're not passionate enough to learn basic things which govern all digital and analog signals

    • @alsothejiraguy
      @alsothejiraguy ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I figured someone was already going to mention keystones, and I'm not disappointed. But still here to give my +1. Yes, you might not plan to change anything with the cables you have run already, but punch down is also a pain if you ever decide to add anything. With a growing homeland, that's what finally got me to change out my punch down patch panel for a keystone

    • @ronaldnaeyaert3653
      @ronaldnaeyaert3653 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Keystones in a blank patch panel is the only way to go

  • @jonathanzj620
    @jonathanzj620 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I'll be setting up phase one of my homelab rack at our new house in the next month or so and love seeing how different people with different needs organize things. This one was especially awesome within the YT homelab community since it is relatively modest, focused, and cheap yet very capable. I look forward to your future work on this rack and your upcoming 10g video

  • @Alex-oh5rt
    @Alex-oh5rt ปีที่แล้ว +40

    14:50 Nothing more permanent than a temporary solution!

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I hate that you’re 100% correct haha

  • @dominick253
    @dominick253 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    It's not what you have, but what you do with it. Personally I think it's more interesting to make a $100 homelab than a $10,000 one.

    • @procheeseburger_2
      @procheeseburger_2 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      this! I see these massive homelabs and then people are like "what should I do with it?" The truth is often you don't need much.. I run everything in containers and its a very small footprint.

  • @nadtz
    @nadtz ปีที่แล้ว +88

    I'd argue that if your home lab works and you are learning you have a decent setup regardless of how janky it might look. That said these were some nice upgrades and it's always cool to see what people are doing with their setups.

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  ปีที่แล้ว +9

      100%!
      For me, this was needed because it has limited me in testing things out and exploring, either literally or just by making me less motivated. lol

    • @nadtz
      @nadtz ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@HardwareHavenI totally get it and there are also the swag points for having a nice looking setup. I've spent a lot of time re-cabling everything from home offices to datacenters and there is also value in a neat well labeled environment.

  • @fernapiedade
    @fernapiedade 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It's incredible to stumble upon a random home lab setup that mirrors mine so closely. Good hardware choices. Reliable and not that so expensive. Good job

  • @TheSasquatchjones
    @TheSasquatchjones ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I think your setup is fine. You up cycled some parts and that's always a plus in my book.

  • @pmpartners
    @pmpartners ปีที่แล้ว +6

    When I had all my networking and servers in a closet I swapped the solid door for a louvered one to increase airflow. It worked great.

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good to know!
      (That’s the plan haha)

  • @rasbe6863
    @rasbe6863 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I like the fact that you are truthful and honest about your setup. Because most people don't have server racks with multiple switches and expensive gear. You're set up as much like mine. Patch together with stuff that I bought off eBay or second hand stuff. Thank you for the great video!

  • @bnasty267
    @bnasty267 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    One thing I did for my home setup is to replace all the wall warts with an old (high quality) ATX power supply. I cut the wall wort barrel jack wires and connected them to the 5V or 12V rails as needed (most gear uses one of those.) Those wall warts are frequently what causes equipment to fail: they fall out of voltage spec or overheat and sometimes kill the equipment. A bonus is being able to have one plug instead of half a dozen and probably more efficient as well.
    Also, you probably want a UPS. With one for the network gear and one for my PC (or laptop), I can keep working for power outages up to about an hour. A must have for working from home.

    • @joey_f4ke238
      @joey_f4ke238 ปีที่แล้ว

      I had a power outage a little back and i had two hours of wifi working thanks to that, though it´s a pretty small unit and can only run my pc for a couple of minutes it was enough to have wifi on my laptop and phone for a decently long time

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There’s a small UPS in that closet, but I’ll be upgrading it at some point

    • @zeilstar
      @zeilstar ปีที่แล้ว

      If you don't have an ATX psu lying around, you could use a generic DC power supply. Not the wall wart types, but a bigger 10A, 20A, or 30A one. These are often used to power LED strips or fans in a cabinet.

  • @joandepo
    @joandepo ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Your new homeserver looks great. I recently started in the homelab/homeserver world with a Lenovo ThinkCentre Tiny, in addition to my previous gaming PC (i5 9600kf). I'm doing a lot of research and learning more about this, and I've watched several of your videos, which have taught me and motivated me a lot.

  • @zebrasprite
    @zebrasprite ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I love label makers - my E110 was incredible as a starter labeller for my networking and telecomms stuff; recently upgraded to an E550W and it's dope. All my cables are either flagged or wrapped and it just feels incredibly organised. Plus, you can label patch panels in bulk iirc, though I haven't experimented much with it.

  • @CharlyDS
    @CharlyDS ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Loved it, quite down to earth solution, which is what I need :) Things that got my attention:
    - I loved your "rack". Yeah I think I need that, some trays indeed. For now I have a 8port and 5port non rackeable Cisco switches. So *for now* I'd need something to put the things over.
    - The patch panel: definitely want one of those, it's not much order you can do without it. And small patch cords!
    - Proxmox: Hey I just recovered my Supermicro Atom MiniITX, could be a great use.
    My APC UPS has a dead battery under the desk. I have two NAS (I know) and a couple of computers. This would help a lot to my peace of mind. Thanks for the ideas!

  • @JeffGeerling
    @JeffGeerling ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That's the same labeler I've been eyeing; I currently label with a sharpie or my old brother P-touch and that's less than ideal.

  • @Antonio-yy2ec
    @Antonio-yy2ec ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Neat! This homelab setup was relaxing! Thanks for sharing!

  • @jeffnew1213
    @jeffnew1213 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    When I modified my rack setup, about a year ago, I replaced all my Cat 6 and Cat 7 cables with the Monoprice SlimRun cables. They do look much better. While doing that, I removed the keystone patch panels, added a brush panel, like you have, and removed all the little 6-inch cables that went from the now-gone patch panel into my switch (1G/10G/25G). Eliminating unnecessary points of failure and dust collection is a good (great!) thing. If you wanted, you could drop your patch panel similarly and run your long cables over a tie-down bar, through your brush panel and into your switch(es). That 8-year old Synology looks good but, alas, it's DSM is out of upgrade support. Looking forward to seeing what you choose as an upgrade. Enjoy your videos. Give ESXi a go, when you get a chance.

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah that’s not a bad idea. I think for me it’s nice having more flexibility as it’s not uncommon to all of a sudden need 2.5Gb to a jack across the house, or to need to setup a temporary test network and such. I like not having things as hard-lined. It’s already proven very useful in just a week or so.
      And one of the things I’m hoping to do once I get into more of a routine with full-time TH-cam is experiment more, so ESXi is on my list haha.

  • @haydenc2742
    @haydenc2742 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh man...I figured you had a pymping home setup
    I have boxes and frankenputers all over the place, wiring dangling from ceiling and a closet with my 24 port switch and loose POE switch just like your setup
    Mine sits on a large metal shelf in my back bedroom
    Keep em coming!!!!

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hahaha nah. It’s mostly fairly jank

    • @haydenc2742
      @haydenc2742 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HardwareHaven Jank is my middle name ;)

  • @str8lazy
    @str8lazy ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Place your cursor on the green circle to see the temperature values.

  • @questionablecommands9423
    @questionablecommands9423 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Looks like the height of the posts on that a/v rack is exactly right to remove them from the angled base and to use some L brackets to mount the posts to the shelf above and the shelf below.
    fwiw, when I was beginning my homelab, I watched a ton of the channel Fiber Ninja. He does some very real transformations of server rooms on medium sized businesses which contains a lot of good advice on cable routing and organization with an eye towards serviceability. "The Chamber of Cable Blunders" and "Small Office / Big Cabling Rehab!!" are the most interesting, imo. He's the reason why I tossed out all my punch-down patch panels for keystone jack panels with rj45 couplers.

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I thought about mounting them in, but access to the back would be a pain unless I built in sliding rails or something.
      And thanks for the recommendation! I’ll have to check it out

  • @LeeMyers-Jr
    @LeeMyers-Jr ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I recently cleaned up my network closet with patch panels. Instead of using punch in keystones I used double-sided keystones so I was able to use my current cables. The one mistake I initially made was only getting 6" patch cables, I needed some 12" cables to reach some of the ports on my switch. The something I liked that I did was get different colors of patch cables and keystones, so depending on the type of connection (servers, network equipment, rooms[different color on each floor], etc) they have a different color.
    Now the last thing to do is label my patch panel, but first I need to find my notes of what goes where. Then replace my UPS, it has started to go funky.

  • @reklaimer
    @reklaimer ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video as always! AC Infinity makes an in-wall/door exhaust/intake fan for just your application. Some of the units have bluetooth on board and can turn on/off the fans at a specific temperature or humidity reading. I utilize an AC infinity 10 inch fan in my server closet to vent the hot air into my enclosed foam attic at about 80 degrees and it does the job nicely. Keep up the great work.

  • @TriciaLindstrom123
    @TriciaLindstrom123 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Love your improvements except for one thing. When you had that router apart, you could have gone further with the POE problem. Notice that the POE power supply is a modular one sitting all by its lonely. Just pull the connector where it goes onto the POE board and check the voltage again. If it is still about 1 volt or so, you have a bad power supply. Just take it out and search for any numbering on it to try and cross reference it. Mean Well makes ill sorts of open frame supplies like that. You could find out in a few minutes if your router is fixable. Good luck

  • @charlesgi5058
    @charlesgi5058 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It almost seems like the legs can be reinstalled upside down for no tilt. love the tiny server. in mine I use one 2tb nvme for boot/vm storage and one 2tb sata ssd for extra storage. I had to take the ssd out of the 2.5" case to make some clearance. but it looks cooler that way anyway. i find sata really makes a bottle neck running multiple vms

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That’s what I was hoping at first, and it possibly could but would involve some drilling and such.
      The plan for my server is similar, with the NVMe being for VMs and the SATA drive for snapshots and potentially non-boot virtual drives

  • @JeffGeerling
    @JeffGeerling ปีที่แล้ว +2

    02:59 so that settles it! CraftComputing is the other one! Mwahahaha

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was curious which Jeff would see this first haha

    • @JeffGeerling
      @JeffGeerling ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HardwareHaven Only the original ;)

  • @JeffGeerling
    @JeffGeerling ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Hard Drive Haven sounds like a good name for a Storinator

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don’t think I could fit a Storinator in there…

    • @JeffGeerling
      @JeffGeerling ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@HardwareHavenYou just need to try harder! You could mount it vertically on the wall like Dave's Garage did!

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@JeffGeerlingDon''t give me ideas...

    • @TOWGyt
      @TOWGyt ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HardwareHaventhere is a storinator jr. you could use that?

  • @Yuriel1981
    @Yuriel1981 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Definitely would like to see a video trouble shooting and or replacing the power supply for the TP Link poe. I wonder how much a replacement would cost on Ebay?

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      My issue was just finding the part lol. I’ll probably tackle it later on, maybe in a patreon video or something since it might be a bit short and/or awkward haha

    • @15fakeaccount
      @15fakeaccount ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It could be cheaper to get replacement PSU from taobao.

  • @klashe1977
    @klashe1977 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the focus on being cost effective, reusing old (but use case sufficient) hardware, and space savings. Nice work!

  • @knghtbrd
    @knghtbrd ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Here you are getting all fancier with your home lab setup and I'm preparing to get very carefully jank… I've encountered a few folks lately who have limited budgets and a stack of mismatched hard drive. Turns out a couple IKEA LACK tables could make a box that one could screw rack hardware into when/as it is acquired, and I've got it in my head that one might set up something that looks like a mining rig in it to hold a motherboard, power supply, and a stack of drives. I'm still wondering about the stack of drives part since I'd like it not to take all day to replace one, jank though it may be.
    Your setup (at the end of the video) looks much nicer … but it also cost more. 😉 One of the draws for me to your channel is the found/reclaimed hardware doing fun/interesting things.

  • @s80keys
    @s80keys ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Looks great. And I like that you try to be resourceful by reusing older parts. We don’t all have an unlimited lab budget. 😂

  • @MarcoGPUtuber
    @MarcoGPUtuber ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hardware Haven really upgraded my TH-cam viewing!

  • @TimSavage-drummer
    @TimSavage-drummer ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've found an Orange oil cleaner is the best for getting rid of sticky residue.

  • @thecoffeez
    @thecoffeez ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Looks good! I gotta rewire my own set up.... but I can't go thru the walls, I rent :( I like the desktop rack.... a lot :)

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah renting can be tricky. I’ve found that flat Ethernet cables are great for running under trim and such. I ran one all the way across my apartment a few years back.

    • @jirehla-ab1671
      @jirehla-ab1671 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@HardwareHavenwhats the write endurance of your ssd in yur editing machine?

  • @58TechBoy
    @58TechBoy ปีที่แล้ว +2

    yay new video keep the good work going haven!

  • @truckerallikatuk
    @truckerallikatuk ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Add a vent at the top and bottom of the door, that should allow acceptable airflow.

  • @woe2you2
    @woe2you2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    If you're going to rack a switch using only two screws, use the bottom one on each ear, the top of the ears will lever against the post to support the weight. Using the top one means on that side the weight of the switch is pulling the bottom of the ear away from the post as it sags.

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Normally I would, and you can see that for the heavier stuff like the big switch and shelf that I used all 4. That 10Gb switch is surprisingly light though, so I didn't really put much though into it. That's not saying you aren't correct lol

  • @elremineh
    @elremineh ปีที่แล้ว +1

    14:50 “There is not more permanent things than a temporal solution” - IT Gods

  • @L4X1K3
    @L4X1K3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "I don't need a lot of storage in here"
    *adds 1TB SSD*
    well played

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol, you say that, but in a video where I talk about having 4TB of storage, people freak out that it's not nearly enough.

    • @L4X1K3
      @L4X1K3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      true, I mean imo usually when you don't neex storage 512GB is usually pretty big overkill, expecially if you don't use windows as an OS but if you'll be running VMs and might need expandability 1TB is a solid middle ground

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@L4X1K3 Exactly 👍

  • @computersales
    @computersales ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You took my favorite trick from my playbook. Steal stuff from work to upgrade.

  • @Holdeenio
    @Holdeenio 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Yes those mega homelabs are awesome but I actually prefer videos at the stage of yours - they’re much more satisfying! Keep up the good work 👍🏼

  • @MayankJairaj
    @MayankJairaj ปีที่แล้ว +1

    9:45 Those are Sunoons, try to get the Sunoon maglevs they are as good as the Noctuas and the fans u take out can be sold off, its a well-known brand

  • @Scarsuna
    @Scarsuna ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My wife would kill me, but I've thought about modding the door to my server room with intake fans on the bottom and outtake fans on the top.

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm currently working on getting a louvered door painted and installed. The wife was MUCH happier with that option haha

  • @movax20h
    @movax20h ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice. Low end, but on a budget pretty good. It is definitively an improvement.
    You could have saved yourself a lot of work, and actually improve things, by not using punch out patch panel. Instead use pass through patch panel, with RJ45 sockets on each side. Not only it is easier, more flexible later, it also degrades signal less.

  • @bokami3445
    @bokami3445 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it satisfying to get all the power/network cabling cleaned up. Job well done!

  • @alanparker3624
    @alanparker3624 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You are using pfsence in a virtual machine? Is it possible to setup pfsence in a vm in a pc and setup a wireless bridge to the main router?

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, I have two videos covering both building that PC and switching it out as my actual firewall.
      Are you asking about using your existing router as a wireless access point?

    • @alanparker3624
      @alanparker3624 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HardwareHaven My isp router is in the living room, and I'm interested in setting up a computer lab in the spare room. Because of rental property limits, my idea is windows 11 pc running pfsense in a virtual maching w/ access to the pc wifi card to connect via wireless bridge to the isp router. Also I would like to connect a switch to the win 11 pc and share internet with a server and printer. I just don't know how to set this up. Running a patch cable down the hall isn't an option. Thanks for your thoughts.

  • @Chris_In_Texas
    @Chris_In_Texas ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Something to keep in mind that if you are using CAT5e cable try not to use CAT6 patch panels and keystone jacks. Each of those cables have different wire gauges, and while they may work just fine, but could cause stability issues or long term issues down the road. That is why its always good to use the same CAT rating the entire way through from an in-wall hard-wire perspective. Once you get to patch cables etc you can change, but your network will be de-rated to the lowest piece in the route. In this case if you have CAT5e in the walls, don't expect CAT6 level performance. IE CAT5e will run 2.5Gbps if terminated correctly where as you can get 10Gbps with CAT6/6A. 🤠👍

    • @qux8508
      @qux8508 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I am moving to an new how, should i get cat6/6a or cat7? starting all from scratch, there is nothing there yet

    • @Chris_In_Texas
      @Chris_In_Texas 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@qux8508Well Cat 6 will run 10Gbps up to 55 Meters, where as Cat 6a will support 10Gbps to 100 Meters. Cat 7 doesn't use traditional RJ45's, so that would be a pass for sure there is no TIA standard for Cat 7. Cat 8 has a max run length of 30 meters using traditional RJ45 connectors to support the full 2000MHz of bandwidth.
      The higher the category cable the thicker and less manageable it gets. Also you must use properly certified patch panels and wall plates for the cable you use. The price for those go up very fast as well. The faster the speed no matter the cable certification the more critical the terminations and cable routing becomes. If you are truly serious to run 6A or 8, then have a networking company or at least consultant come in to make sure the cables are run correctly would be a good investment. Electricians that run low voltage cable aren't typically up on running network cabling correctly. Like putting them in long runs with AC cabling or near appliances etc. Also a network guy with certification equipment can actually check each cable run after its in and terminated to make sure it will fully pass all the tests, not just a simple continuity test.
      Pretty much the consensus is that if you need more than 10Gbps you really should be running fiber and not copper. This means that depending on run length 6 or 6A will be more than enough for residential environments. The normal homeowner doesn't really care about network cabling, as they use use WiFi because wires are ugly. 😁 Don't mix and match use all the same, that way you only need one category of keystone jacks/patch panels.
      If it were me I would run Cat6 maybe 6A and fiber to each drop now a days. If I needed one drop, then do yourself a favor and run two, and if you need two run four. Its way cheaper to run cable when a house is being built than after the fact. I have close to 80 drops run right now in our house, all of them CAT5e at this point as it was done 17 years ago when it was built. I have a number of runs using 2.5Gbps and they are just fine. My longest run is just under 200 feet. Because of the size of our house I would have also used a MDF/IDF placement as well to have shorter runs and two wiring closets with fiber & copper trunking between them. That way edge switches would be placed at the IDF's and have 10G fiber connections back to the MDF. I would have also installed small closets for the IDFs and larger area for the MDF/server room. The MDF/Server room would have its own mini-split HVAC as well and dedicated 240VAC power run to it.
      When we moved in the electrician had manually stripped all 8 conductors from every drop and twisted them together to make them all phone lines. It was crazy, they had like 5 of them used for "computers" and weren't in the super bundle of electrical tape goop. We also have 28 coax drops that run with the network wiring too. Think about placement in rooms. Where would you need each of the connections on which walls. If you are putting up many flat screen TV's make sure you run power / network / coax to each of those areas as well. 🤠👍 Good luck.

  • @decoyoctopus9767
    @decoyoctopus9767 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "I don't necessarily trust all my labeling" lol keep up the good work. I look forward to your videos

  • @gordon3178
    @gordon3178 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hardware haven if you get any items with those sticky labels that won’t come off. I got a tip from the it manager when I qualified as a it technician was to use lighter fluid to let it soak in and then pealed it off in one go which worked

  • @georgepeck9847
    @georgepeck9847 ปีที่แล้ว

    It was fun to see your assistant Ruth! I've got two Bostons at home, Alice and Annie.

  • @adoteq_
    @adoteq_ 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is it a startech rack? I have an 8U 2post rack from them looks like yours.

  • @dasiro
    @dasiro ปีที่แล้ว

    1. cut the vinyl labels to fit on your patchpanel
    2. what is the QNAP switch for? it takes up valuable real-estate and you have plenty ports free on you main switch
    3. use all screws instead of 1 left/1 right, this way your "rack" is sturdier and you can remove the bottom placeholder
    4. if the PoE doesn't work: rip out or at least disconnect that board, which is one of the biggest power-hogs in the switch and you'll need almost no cooling for the actual switching-PCB
    5. loose the cable-grommit and get the cables in from the side with some velcro and a loose tie-wrap
    suddenly you have half of your rack free again to add more stuff later on

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It’s a 10Gb switch. I think I said that a few times.
      I didn’t rip out the board just yet because I assumed it probably isn’t drawing much power since it isn’t functioning.
      I don’t have plans to rack anything else, so I was happier to have things a bit tidier with less space.

  • @marco.santos2024
    @marco.santos2024 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now you should get one software to monitor all you devices.
    You can host it in one VM or Container (don't know the options). With that you can monitor if the device is alive or not, with, ICMP, get the temps and other useful information through SNMP. And define alerts when reach certain thresholds.
    I known Centreon, i work with it.

  • @JessicaFEREM
    @JessicaFEREM ปีที่แล้ว +2

    you could just get a door grate installed on the door, or put an AC infinity fan in the door, or both

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think right now the plan is to get a louvered door. My wife wasn’t too excited about the other options haha. I might still do some fans and other stuff on the inside to guide airflow.

    • @JessicaFEREM
      @JessicaFEREM ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HardwareHaven that's completely reasonable lmao

  • @folderx2000
    @folderx2000 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The fact that you tagged both Jeff on this video, makes me subscribe

  • @Connorplayer123
    @Connorplayer123 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    IM SETTING UP MY FIRST HOMELAB

  • @darthkielbasa
    @darthkielbasa ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Man, I really like the 1u brush panel and the POE adapter for your ZimaBoard cable identifier. Both are now in my cart.
    Before I purchase, do you have affiliate links for the stuff you used in this build? Get that $$$ boi!

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I just updated the description so it has links now!

  • @SOU6900
    @SOU6900 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Now that I have Starlink (just waiting on some last minute stuff to ship and a trip to buy some conduit before I start setting out the hardware) I want to get a setup somewhat like yours done. Only thing is a double wide mobile home isn't the best option for such a setup in my opinion. Doesn't mean I'm now going to try.

  • @anothersiguy
    @anothersiguy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looks awesome, hoping to do something similar some day whenever I get around to running CAT cable in the house… with a 5 mo old it’s going to be awhile lol. Looking forward to the 10Gbps video!

  • @craigyoung3211
    @craigyoung3211 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Looking forward to the frigate/coral tpu. Just did the same with two old hp 800 g3 running on top of proxmox hyper visor. Apologies hard to type with these blue blockers. Btw I love your video’s and intro. I would like to support the channel.❤

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! And sounds like a sweet setup

  • @jumpmaster5279
    @jumpmaster5279 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yeaaaaaaaaaaa, finally nas update
    Just saw your video, love it
    Bro bought the big switch
    Can't wait for part 2
    P.s i want some advice
    For the past 4 years my home lab was an acer aspire e1 571 ( linux mint)
    As my main Home lab, with all my media and an manual backup of everything
    But in 2022 the laptop broke in an freak accident
    After watching your video i mustered up the courage and made an local nas with linux mint xfce and casa os, it runs jellyphin since it only contains my media library and some data
    Following you from your 2nd video and your content never disappointed me and thanks for these amazing guides
    So right now it's
    Core i5 4690s
    8 gb ddr3 ram ( dual channel)
    2- 1tb hhd( which I backup manually, i am still afraid of raid and products )
    512 gig nvme ssd
    On linux mint xfce
    Since I am the only one using it and I have only one pc I can't just install omv or something
    I am hoping to see you next
    Soon

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you liked it! Gotta be honest though, that 10Gb switch in the rack was sent to me, however the one in the box I held up I paid for. I’ll cover all that in a couple weeks haha.
      As far as advice, is there something specifically you’re wanting to know? Sounds like you’ve got a good setup that’s doing what you need it to do. 👍🏻

    • @jumpmaster5279
      @jumpmaster5279 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HardwareHaven just one question
      Is it ok to use linux mint xfce with casa os.
      That all,

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jumpmaster5279 Considering ubuntu is supported and that's what mint is based on, I would imagine so. I would just be hesitant to update Mint without checking to see the current Ubunutu support for CasaOS

    • @jumpmaster5279
      @jumpmaster5279 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HardwareHaven sure, thanks for the advice

  • @martinsholev7811
    @martinsholev7811 ปีที่แล้ว

    After you changed the fans, I saw that your fan icon is amber. The Noctua fans are rpm based while the stock is with lock sensor. They are high/low state, what I can give as a Cisco homelab with Noctua fans is to use from Noctua ext. cable and cut or splice another cable and attach it to the ground somewhere or you can with something metal a little bridge between yellow and ground the fan header, this should fix the amber light, I hope I haven't played with tp-link. :)

  • @mmenjic
    @mmenjic ปีที่แล้ว

    3:41 instead of punching in, usually requiring a tool, you should use Panduit which comes with plastic tool which you could do without but there it is and then click in instead of punching.

  • @Endelin
    @Endelin ปีที่แล้ว

    I might add a UPS to that setup, and one for the modem too. Mine has saved me a few times working from home.
    I look forward to seeing how you ventilate the closet.

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There is one. I added a pinned comment with some info because I got that comment a lot lol

  • @thesavo
    @thesavo ปีที่แล้ว +2

    TP link, especially the on their enterprise equipment, carry a lifetime warranty. It maybe worth creating an owner account and registering the switch. If it was never registered with the original owner, perhaps you can register it for the first time and get the poe board repaired.

  • @k3dare
    @k3dare ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hint: If you want a cheap but powerful label printer, buy an used POS printer, you can buy sticky thermal paper then and print whatever you want. (there are cheap battery powered ones too)

  • @KameraShy
    @KameraShy ปีที่แล้ว

    - You can get double-sided female Keystone jacks that accept RJ plugs on the back side. Saves having to cut, strip and punch-down cables where there are already RJ plugs - that work.
    - Un-Du is excellent for removing labels, adhesive residue and miscellaneous schmutz. Safe for even photos to remove tape residue which I have used.
    - TinyPilot looked interesting ... until I found the price. $400!
    - Will outgrow the rack in about 6 months. Home lab, home automation and so on are rapidly evolving and all of us viewers here have the same hodge-podge of equipment.

  • @ArmchairGuru
    @ArmchairGuru 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nicely done. Only thing I would have personally changed would have been to use passthroughs on the patch panel so you could have just done and re-plug and rack the equipment and done.

  • @TryItAgainTomorrow
    @TryItAgainTomorrow 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's refreshing to see this video. As someone who works in IT all day, my home lab is the bare minimum to get what I need done with everyday-Joe equipment. It gets old seeing everyone with 42U racks in their basements and thousands of dollars of equipment, half of which aren't even powered on.

  • @glonch
    @glonch ปีที่แล้ว

    So nice to clean things up - congrats!

  • @Ki7oba
    @Ki7oba ปีที่แล้ว +1

    LOL ‘Risk wife coming home to no internet’ I can relate.

  • @CamiloSperberg
    @CamiloSperberg ปีที่แล้ว +4

    In order to get the rack straight, couldn't you just turn around that angled supports that on the sides go all the way back? The upper part is straight while the lower part is angled, so turn it around and you'll have a straight rack mount without hacks :)
    Apart from that, I would have put in an extra space between the patch panel and the first switch so that I could throw all ethernet cables to one side and electric cables to the other one, but hey, it's a small rack so not needed :)

  • @De_Lift_1983
    @De_Lift_1983 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent work, very good congratulations!!

  • @ShaunWilliams
    @ShaunWilliams 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good Video and good simple setup.
    With the temps in Synology, go to the Storage manager and look at the drives directly, there are actual drive temps there.

  • @jassjaup
    @jassjaup ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would not use those really small diameter patches for POE... All of them that I have seen that they are not rated for POE and will heat up and burn up in about 2-3 weeks.

  • @SmartHomeIntegrations
    @SmartHomeIntegrations ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really love your setup, functional and still affordable. I cringe when I see people with homelabs with enterprise equipment costing serious bucks. That POE switch might only fire up the 48V when a POE device needs power to be delivered thus saving on idle consumption power draw.

  • @dracko712
    @dracko712 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Closet racks just make sense. It's not always practical to put in the attic/basement. Looks very clean, similar to what I have in mind

  • @wchorski
    @wchorski ปีที่แล้ว

    I monitor temps (and other stats: CPU, RAM, etc) of all my machines with Glances. Then I pipe that data to InfluxDB and display in Grafana (via home assistant dash).
    Really nice way to follow heat trends and see if or how long throttling can occur

  • @KaidoFujimi
    @KaidoFujimi 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    These spaces are where 90 degree IEC power cables are a life saver. If you're still having space concerns with your switch's cable, grab a right angled cable.

  • @KoolCreation
    @KoolCreation ปีที่แล้ว

    Enjoyed watching. I just add storage my mini PC and installed VMware on it. Still trying to figure out networking everything.

  • @thetexanachilles452
    @thetexanachilles452 ปีที่แล้ว

    Watching this makes me realize how much bullshit my dad had to go through when he ran IT for a small school. They had a pretty sizeable server/lab for such a small school. But it was on the complete opposite side of the school from his office.

  • @musictab7376
    @musictab7376 ปีที่แล้ว

    home lab tip: look up music equipment racks. I found one for 75 bucks that's a full 1/2 rack, on wheels and has a wood top. basically it looks like a table but all my rack gear is in it. was a nice upgrade from the rack I built (again, music equipment) where it was 2 rails and blocks of wood I cut

  • @JL-hy7ve
    @JL-hy7ve ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The best way to remove labels or residue from duct tape good old WD40 followed up with IPA works everytime

  • @jonathan.sullivan
    @jonathan.sullivan ปีที่แล้ว

    +1 for Keystone patch panels instead of punch down termination. I don't miss those days.

  • @JamesTenniswood
    @JamesTenniswood ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd pick up a chepa cable tester, it was a life saver when doing all the network aetup in my house.

  • @mx338
    @mx338 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good to see you not spending huge on new gear, when you still have stuff that works just fine. Hopefully you manage to get PoE back on that tp-link switch.

  • @TheAppleFreak
    @TheAppleFreak ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For removing labels, instead of using isopropyl alcohol try using acetone! It obliterates adhesive and makes it a lot easier to remove than usual.

    • @Hornet135
      @Hornet135 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And sometimes it obliterates paint and plastic too!

    • @thesavo
      @thesavo ปีที่แล้ว

      Googone works best for me.

  • @mishuptm
    @mishuptm ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Be careful cutting wires while plugged into the switch, especially if it's a PoE one. 13:38

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I had already trimmed one before it was plugged in, but didn't realize I trimmed the other that was.

  • @zeilstar
    @zeilstar ปีที่แล้ว

    "Vent Systems" makes a nice two piece louvered door vent. One at the top and one at the bottom should allow for convective air flow.

  • @halfdanarson
    @halfdanarson ปีที่แล้ว

    You could attach the brackets you are using at the back of the rack to the wall and rest the back of the shelf on them to level it out.

  • @firenado4295
    @firenado4295 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd have just run the already terminated cables from the house through the brush thing and eliminate the termination block altogether. Thats just my thoughts as I like having as few connections in a run as possible so there's less to go wrong and it doesn't really cost you anything other than the wires are a set length and once you make them that's it.

  • @idahofur
    @idahofur ปีที่แล้ว

    My son wanted me to get some cable management holders for my 2 racks for cables. I explained to him I thought about it. But, I'm always changing cables around for testing so it is not needed. He then asked about why I didn't have a ups. I pointed out I did and yes it works. Just to lazy to use it. :)

  • @SteelWolf13
    @SteelWolf13 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Maybe put a screw through the arm by the wall 15:20 and that might keep it from sliding due to vibrations?

  • @normandseguin6103
    @normandseguin6103 ปีที่แล้ว

    8:50 to remove label put vegetable oil on it and wait couple of minutes before peel it.

  • @Whatblxke
    @Whatblxke ปีที่แล้ว

    Not sure if my job just does things differently, or if its better or worse, but I LOVE using keystone patch panels rather than punch down. Awesome video either way tho!

  • @ciaduck
    @ciaduck ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You might want to check the gauge of those slim cables vs POE spec. I know it's low voltage, but if they are getting too hot, that could be a fire hazard.

    • @anothersiguy
      @anothersiguy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Those slim cables work fine for that, we use similar ones in all our branch offices for POE APs and VOIP phones, no issues.

  • @justinnamilee
    @justinnamilee 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I respect all homelab setups, being curious and tinkering / learning is obviously the ultimate goal, however that ends up looking... Myself I'm lucky enough to have started working for a company who was gutting their old colo and was able to snap up a bunch of gear for cheap / free, then assisted in the demolition of an old call center and picked up even more nice racks, cabs, and gear. But you don't need a 78" IBM rack to homelab, it's just a nice to have. xD

  • @DarkPhoenix1515
    @DarkPhoenix1515 ปีที่แล้ว

    the irony of having squarespace as the sponsor of a self - made/self - hosting server video

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol, fair point. However, even as someone that likes to self host, I find Squarespace to be very useful

    • @DarkPhoenix1515
      @DarkPhoenix1515 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HardwareHaven I still appreciate your content a lot. Thanks to you I finally got around making my own server with proxmox for truenas, plex and a few other things to toy around with.

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  ปีที่แล้ว

      NICE

  • @Alex-oh5rt
    @Alex-oh5rt ปีที่แล้ว +1

    18:33 are your fans exhausting air? You might want to flip them around

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  ปีที่แล้ว

      I stuck with the same configuration the original fans were in. It seemed a bit odd though

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  ปีที่แล้ว

      Well now that I'm looking a bit closer, I might be wrong. I can't really tell based off the previous fans' blades. I might try to plug them into something.

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  ปีที่แล้ว

      Never mind, I can confirm that they blow air towards the label side, so they were in an exhaust configuration

    • @Alex-oh5rt
      @Alex-oh5rt ปีที่แล้ว

      Typically on computer fans, the pretty side that doesn’t have the bars is the suction side and the “uglier” side with the bars is the blowing side.

    • @HardwareHaven
      @HardwareHaven  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Alex-oh5rt Which was the case with the fans here, so the direction of airflow is the same as how it came from the factory

  • @flatfishfun
    @flatfishfun ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is very good