@ineedajoint Opel Eco Speedster - After the trials were over, Opel could successfully note no fewer than 17 new world records for special cars with turbocharged diesel engines in the 1100 to 1499cc class, including: * An average speed of 141 mph over 24 hours (at an average 31.4 mpg) * Top speed of 160.2 mph * Best fuel consumption in Economy run: 111.2 mpg * The engine actually had just 112 hp! It was in 2002 or so. A 170 PS Golf TDI can be chiptuned to 200+ hp/260 speedo kph downhill.
Lotus Carlton / Omega is independantly tested capable of 194.5mph / 313.3 km/h. Factory said 177mph was official top speed. Although this video is 1.5x real speed the lotus still smoked the Saab.
@Crodon your right. thought it was koeniggsegg. last i heard spyker was making a move, but koeniggsegg put in a higher offer. then koeniggsegg pulled out, and spyker bought them instead. still not GM though lol
Sped up or not, thats a damn SAAB turbo that the 15 year old Vauxhall owned just now, even slowed down, if the Saab could have kept up it would, lol. the Carlton hit the disappear button for real on the police.
@ineedajoint A regular 170 PS 2.0 liter Golf TDI does 222 kph official real speed on a level straight. That is at least 230 kph SPEEDO, probably more than that (speedo is usually more than 5 % higher). Downhill, it will easily exceed 240 kph speedo. With chiptuning, 260 kph speedo is not out of reach. My brother's car has 192 PS, is completely stock (no modifications) and does 260 kph speedo downhill/almost 250 kph SPEEDO on a level straight/almost 240 kph REAL (GPS) on a level straight.
@poppachook 187 mph is 300.8 kph and that speed can be achieved by BMW M3, Lexus IS-F, Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG and other cars with 400+ hp and a DISABLED speed limiter. Normally, M3 and C63 AMG are limited to 250 kph, IS-F to 270 kph. Actually, there is a rumor that the IS-F can reach 200 mph (321.8 kph), but I highly doubt it (on a FLAT straight - downhill without a problem). I would believe about 190 mph/305.7 kph.
@poppachook An unlimited C63 AMG goes EASILY to 300 kph. 457 PS is actually good for about 315 kph or 195 mph in such a car (weight/shape/size). Even the old 400 PS BMW M5 E39 does 300+ kph when unlimited... And 300 kph is approx. 186.45 mph... 187 mph is OVER 300 kph, not about 260 kph... A highly chiptuned/slipstreamed golf TDI could do somewhere near speedo 260 kph downhill, optimistically... Then again, a mere ~117 hp diesel car did a 260+ kph AVERAGE in a LAP with SERIOUS slipstreaming!
its not a mix opel an lotus are together in some countries its lotus in others its opel thats why people keep on arguing....just like in america we have the saturn astra and in europe its either the opel astra or the vauxhaul astra
186mph = 300kph, i should know .if uve ever been in a lotus carlton (and i have) and ive driven quite a few very fast cars its one of a kind, as the owners of them will tell you. Carnt be compared to a golf or any other small car (except an Atom), Bentley, Veyron terrortory me thinks...
"Considering" that the GTD had gone 140mph (GPS) and on a certain downhill section of the A3 highway it also gone up to ~155mph, you can start rubbing them. And, the C63 has the "driver's package", that means is limited to 280km/h but, it goes 286km/h (GPS) or 303km/h (Speedo). So, please...eat them...use pepper and salt. BTW, I can bet that I've spent more time on the roads doing upwards of 200km/h as you did in total, normal driving.
Vauxhall is owned by GM. The Carlton was on GM's V platform along with several Opels and holdens. So Saab is no where close to being an Vauxhall other then GM owning both companys. and no saab has ever sat on the Carlton's chassis
The difference of power between lotus and saab is wider than 150hp. It´s normal that saab´s driver stayed behind... anyway I realy doubt if I would give my aero...
187 mph = 301 kph and i would rather buy a much rarer Carlton then a C63 because of its rarity. You can go to your local Benz dealer any day and order up a AMG, its not month/ year you even see a Lotus Carlton.
oh...and sorry to burst your bubble, but the movie ist "fast forwarded" and the displayed speed is in km/h...and sorry...150-200km/h is lower cruising speed for me.
@Viesor first of all, SAAB USED to be owned by GM, now koeniggsegg, so a vauxhall with some new bodywork suspension etc. second of all, vauxhall is opel and audi? audi is part of the volkswagen audi group, with literally NOTHING to do with GM.
That's nothing, I used to get 300 mph out of my Mini clubman estate down a hill. I am also the Queen of France. But seriously, Golf TDI- 167BHP = 135mph. Why do people type so much crap on youtube?
@jakubkrcma either thats sum bulllll shit or your talking about something that has been taken to the extreme just to prove a point and could only hold one person and prob only works for 2 days just for the test. and thats now not 20 years ago. golf tdi lololol
@iwanthalo3 U couldnt be more wrong. ok they share some parts witch does the same to save, money. So does most other carbrands, and have been done for generations.. but a saab will never be a vauxall ether way, and has never been owned by Koenigseggs and wont ether. Spyker bought em from GM, and got a brand new future with awesome cars, thats build by saab, not gm or any other crapcar.
Very true, the acceleration is nothing like the Turbo charged SAABS ;)
@ineedajoint Opel Eco Speedster - After the trials were over, Opel could successfully note no fewer than 17 new world records for special cars with turbocharged diesel engines in the 1100 to 1499cc class, including: * An average speed of 141 mph over 24 hours (at an average 31.4 mpg) * Top speed of 160.2 mph * Best fuel consumption in Economy run: 111.2 mpg * The engine actually had just 112 hp! It was in 2002 or so. A 170 PS Golf TDI can be chiptuned to 200+ hp/260 speedo kph downhill.
Lotus Carlton / Omega is independantly tested capable of 194.5mph / 313.3 km/h. Factory said 177mph was official top speed. Although this video is 1.5x real speed the lotus still smoked the Saab.
@Crodon
your right. thought it was koeniggsegg.
last i heard spyker was making a move, but koeniggsegg put in a higher offer.
then koeniggsegg pulled out, and spyker bought them instead.
still not GM though lol
Don't think so, but I don't mind being corrected. Cheers, Mike.
Sped up or not, thats a damn SAAB turbo that the 15 year old Vauxhall owned just now, even slowed down, if the Saab could have kept up it would, lol. the Carlton hit the disappear button for real on the police.
@ineedajoint A regular 170 PS 2.0 liter Golf TDI does 222 kph official real speed on a level straight. That is at least 230 kph SPEEDO, probably more than that (speedo is usually more than 5 % higher). Downhill, it will easily exceed 240 kph speedo. With chiptuning, 260 kph speedo is not out of reach. My brother's car has 192 PS, is completely stock (no modifications) and does 260 kph speedo downhill/almost 250 kph SPEEDO on a level straight/almost 240 kph REAL (GPS) on a level straight.
@poppachook 187 mph is 300.8 kph and that speed can be achieved by BMW M3, Lexus IS-F, Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG and other cars with 400+ hp and a DISABLED speed limiter. Normally, M3 and C63 AMG are limited to 250 kph, IS-F to 270 kph. Actually, there is a rumor that the IS-F can reach 200 mph (321.8 kph), but I highly doubt it (on a FLAT straight - downhill without a problem). I would believe about 190 mph/305.7 kph.
you havnt got a c63.
got bored of a tdi golf then bought a c63 amg??? ha, you could have bought a milk float and that would have been a step up
@poppachook An unlimited C63 AMG goes EASILY to 300 kph. 457 PS is actually good for about 315 kph or 195 mph in such a car (weight/shape/size). Even the old 400 PS BMW M5 E39 does 300+ kph when unlimited... And 300 kph is approx. 186.45 mph... 187 mph is OVER 300 kph, not about 260 kph... A highly chiptuned/slipstreamed golf TDI could do somewhere near speedo 260 kph downhill, optimistically... Then again, a mere ~117 hp diesel car did a 260+ kph AVERAGE in a LAP with SERIOUS slipstreaming!
The video is sped up, luk at the seconds in the top right hand corner
its not a mix opel an lotus are together in some countries its lotus in others its opel thats why people keep on arguing....just like in america we have the saturn astra and in europe its either the opel astra or the vauxhaul astra
Those lotus carltons sure don't look fast in person, but god damn do they fly down the highway.
lol the lotus must have been fitted with a KERS button.
Haha, doesn't the seconds in the top right corner look a bit weird to you? *-)Time flies when you're having a ball?
looks fast but look at the time in seconds, you see how the second are going by twice as fast.
That guy who has the omega or whatever it's called is purely fukking with the police...LMFAO!!!
i wanna this car for chrismas....
@rs200000000000 6.2 litre V8. And about 450 horsepower at the crank. :)
Time elapsed clock seems to be running a little fast??
I'm saying the top speed for the Carlton is 301 kph not the cop car.
Don't forget that it says POLICE SAAB. May be it's modified. Same with the POLICE Crown Victoria. Completely different engine.
@poppachook 190mph is actually almost 306kph.
@poppachook The C63 AMG will reach 307Km/hr. the ML63 has reached speeds of 298km/r, this isn't just one off, but many times
@poppachook 187 mph is actualy 300.94 kph
@autounseramen yea im pretty sure thats km/h
This video is sped up slightly. I've seen the original and it aint this quick
187 KM/H...it's Sweden boyo...they, as the other ones in EU, are using the METRIC system.
muito loko...massaa...............di maisssssss Omegazão sai da reta marea e opala.
Can nobody see that the video is sped up?
and the other fact: no other country uses mph-s except the US, and GB.... so it must be in kph-s.. :)
186mph = 300kph, i should know .if uve ever been in a lotus carlton (and i have) and ive driven quite a few very fast cars its one of a kind, as the owners of them will tell you. Carnt be compared to a golf or any other small car (except an Atom), Bentley, Veyron terrortory me thinks...
"Considering" that the GTD had gone 140mph (GPS) and on a certain downhill section of the A3 highway it also gone up to ~155mph, you can start rubbing them.
And, the C63 has the "driver's package", that means is limited to 280km/h but, it goes 286km/h (GPS) or 303km/h (Speedo).
So, please...eat them...use pepper and salt.
BTW, I can bet that I've spent more time on the roads doing upwards of 200km/h as you did in total, normal driving.
godamn that thing flies...
man that thing jus ditched em
Yes, this video is speed up. Anyway, the Lotus Omega is faster... This is really matters...
200MPH?
the lotus carlton was the fastest saloon car for about a decade..
@autounseramen Km/h ?? its swedish?.....
OMG !!! ... this is Vw Passat B3 ... maybe VR6 .
Shame the vid is sped up, so you cant see how quick stuff is going relatively speaking......
Vauxhall is owned by GM. The Carlton was on GM's V platform along with several Opels and holdens. So Saab is no where close to being an Vauxhall other then GM owning both companys. and no saab has ever sat on the Carlton's chassis
The difference of power between lotus and saab is wider than 150hp. It´s normal that saab´s driver stayed behind... anyway I realy doubt if I would give my aero...
I say to the Police: give up and don't risk other lives over this guy
187 mph = 301 kph and i would rather buy a much rarer Carlton then a C63 because of its rarity. You can go to your local Benz dealer any day and order up a AMG, its not month/ year you even see a Lotus Carlton.
legend of a car those carltons :P
@poppachook 187mph is pretty spot on 300km/h.
TDI...who is talking here about Golf TDI? Have you heard of GT Sport or GTD 170HP diesels from VW?
oh...and sorry to burst your bubble, but the movie ist "fast forwarded" and the displayed speed is in km/h...and sorry...150-200km/h is lower cruising speed for me.
Cyaaaaa - 3.6 Twin Turbo 377BHP
@poppachook 187 MPH is more than 300 kph....
@Viesor
first of all, SAAB USED to be owned by GM, now koeniggsegg, so a vauxhall with some new bodywork suspension etc.
second of all, vauxhall is opel and audi?
audi is part of the volkswagen audi group, with literally NOTHING to do with GM.
@poppachook
187 MPH is just over 300KP/H
the VXR is quicker.. but u gota look at the year gap :) this was so imba compared to most luxary cars & saloons
alleycatflyer i agree with you
@poppachook What?
@poppachook A C63 can do more than 190mph, it is limited to 155mph, but i can go a lot more than that.
live-tired speed...
saab=vauxhall in disguise
s-type jaguar=ford mondeo in disguise.... i like to call them "jag-deo's" that pisses most jag owners off :P
Yeah well I bet you've never driven one!
lol, he gets up to 200 so i very highly doubt (apart from the fact its impossible in a saab) that it is miles.
the old power :D
That's nothing, I used to get 300 mph out of my Mini clubman estate down a hill. I am also the Queen of France. But seriously, Golf TDI- 167BHP = 135mph. Why do people type so much crap on youtube?
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Can my Grandpa's Ople omega do this? (-^v^-i)a
yoou call that fast? i used to get up tp 250km/h in my Golf TDI. Got bored, sold it and now my new C63 AMG goes up to 300km/h...now this is fast:;)
@poppachook well mine does so get eatin
Haha, thats THE question
Lotus Carlton
oh my god
WOW
it got smoked pretty bad
@jakubkrcma either thats sum bulllll shit or your talking about something that has been taken to the extreme just to prove a point and could only hold one person and prob only works for 2 days just for the test. and thats now not 20 years ago. golf tdi lololol
to be fair my vectra 2.2 tdi is quicker than a saab 9.5 aero!!!they are the same chassis ill have u know!
dann756 Now that's the biggest load of shit I've read in years. A 9-5 Aero would smoke a 2.2 Veccy diseasel.
@iwanthalo3 U couldnt be more wrong. ok they share some parts witch does the same to save, money. So does most other carbrands, and have been done for generations.. but a saab will never be a vauxall ether way, and has never been owned by Koenigseggs and wont ether. Spyker bought em from GM, and got a brand new future with awesome cars, thats build by saab, not gm or any other crapcar.
sped up
you missed the turn! jk
hahahaha
legit
hammer man your so wrong!! pick up a total vauxhall mag and read the stats on this car in the back!! you,l change your opinion then bud!
lol
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@poppachook worng 186 is 300kph