12 Contradictions in the Bible
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- Are there any Contradictions in the Bible? Let's look at some of the top Bible contradictions to see if they're irreconcilable. Is the Bible inerrant? As a former evangelical Christian, I'll do my best to be as objective as possible, but I won't hesitate to point out Biblical Contradictions if and when I see them. We'll start with contradictions in the Old Testament but primarily focus on New Testament contradictions related to the birth, life, and death of Jesus.
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sorry but you did not understund anythig about Bible . Pleas stra study original Bible in oryinal lengueges like hebrew and greek koine etc
and you againt wrong about Bible and for example catholick curch check 87 CCC first
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@@mspi3801 - You probably feel like you’re the first person to ever tell a FORMER Christian that they don’t know anything about the bible they LITERALLY READ FROM. Perhaps YOU aren’t understanding OR, you understand it but you deny it in favor of having to believe in SOMETHING after you die. Get over yourself.
No offense, but your scholarship is lacking in regards to your description of the birth narrarive of Matthew and Luke.
I tried to follow your logic, but there's nothing in Matthew that says that they were residents of Bethlehem. Nor does it make logical sense that they would flee Bethlehem because of Harrod's son, just to go to Nazareth that is ruled by Harrod's son... 🤔.
These mistakes in scholarship are easy for Christians to expose, but many people rely on you for a cogent argument.
Better scholarship please.
It's fascinating to me that many atheists and agnostics know the Bible better than evangelicals
:) it;''s that thing.. KNOW your enemy ;)
I think that has more to do with many of us once believing and it was reading the entire bible that demonstrated to us that this just could not be true. Many believers have never even read the entire book.
It's because we used to be Christians. We studied it inside and out, and that's part of why we became atheists.
True, how many videos of Bible contradictions are in TH-cam, dozens? Hundreds? It's a shame that only atheists watch them to talk between themselves
Evangelicals are Republicans pushing the Secular Laws of Moses.
Evangelists are christians telling you that god loves you.
The problem is most Christians don’t even read the Bible , they pick and chose the verses they love and refer to the same pages anytime to have faith at all cost
ah yes the ignorant. True christians read the bibel. This video simply misinterprets it
samuel 24 said that God had his wrath into israel and he told david to count the population
remember i said he i didnt say any names
i didnt said God did that or anything else i said "he"
and chronicles say that the devil was the he
and also we dont pick and chose because some laws were temporary until the new covenant was made
@@carllyons7209
You mean the group of people who pass harmful legislation in the name of their god?
The people who disown their children for being gay?
The ones who pray, believe and act according to what their pastor says, but just never took the time to read the entire 1500 page document - they're not "true christians"?
If not "true christians", then what would you call the people who identify as Christian and who make up the majority of the religion?
I'm sorry, but your culture just sucks.
You can be different, but don't pretend that you're not an outlier.
@@hinduismwithpremananddasbhagat what argument is this? What does this mean? Whats the point?
I agree, important to know all scripture. The New Testament has the fulfilment of prophesies by Jesus from the Old Testament. Early Christians knew this of course which strengthened their faith but Christians these days have no clue.
I'm repeating myself but an entity so powerful able to create the universe it is surprising he/she/it is such a poor communicator that humans are required to interpret god's teaching.
This, like many other comments on this video, is a question religious people have had to ask of their interpreted divinity for millennia. When you pick at well known errors in the Bible rather than engage with that complex intellectual tradition following it, you aren't getting the whole picture.
@@gnickthegnome1981 I didn't understand your second sentence. My question is basically the same as above, "Why was it so difficult for an omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent God to give humans a message that was simple to understand and impossible to distort?"
@@donmiller2908 well given that we assume the existence of God, it is evident that God simply didn't provide a clear message. My original reply is alluding to the rich tradition of questions that have explored following such an acknowledgment. Why didn't it? Is this God really all powerful, do we need to rethink the implications and motivations of a divine "power"?
Religious thought is far from some monolithic stasis where everyone is just blindly ignoring the facts of reality.
So you're claiming that you don't know who Jesus is? Without him, you burn in hell. Seems like God got the word out, to all the Earth.
@@JamieAllen1977 if you say you know who Jesus was, this is disingenuous. We know the finer points of his message, and the story of him people told, but we will never know the person of Jesus.
Perhaps if you humble yourself and admit this lack of knowledge, you won't be so quick to spit damnation at others. Really quite disgusting. Didn't Jesus have a lot to say about judging others? Primarily that it isn't our job?
I appreciate you approaching the topic in a very respectful way
But hes not educated enough to do it. All historical experts (atheists) agree that these discrepancies are proof that Jesus is real. Human accounts from different people ALWAYS have significant differences, this is true for all historical events in all history. I mean, have you played the game "telephone" as a kid? Historians know that if all accounts are identical, then that is usually a sign that the historical evenmt was falsified, and the writers worked together to "get the story straight". On the other hand, if the general story is the same with differences like these, that is almost a slam dunk proof that the accounts are real.
respectful? he repeatedly lies and makes light of Christ this is far from 'respectful'
@@linnylinhorst5102 He was absolutely respectful....He never insulted anybody. He is having a healthy conversation about the contradictions that do in fact exist in the Bible. I don't see how you could interpret it as anything other than respectful. You just don't like him because he doesn't believe what you believe, typical. Before you try to preach to me, I too follow Christ and Christ only.
@@MrShenanigans28 There are no contradictions in the bible and at no point did I say he insults anyone. Maybe if you read my comment instead of getting all white knighty you could have realized. and being a Christian doesn't mean your free from reproach.
@@linnylinhorst5102there are clear contradictions and natural error in the Bible. The Bible is empty of truth and is a scourge on mankind. Delusion and error have no rights.
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I have read that book. It is extremely informative and incredible.
Don't like Ehrman.
He is far too quick to claim knowing things he doesn't know.
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Jesus was crucified in the afternoon before passover in John so tie him to the sacrifice of the lamb (hence lamb if god). But the other synoptic gospels had him eat the last supper (a passover meal) then died the next day.
Learning about this contradiction was the first step to my deconversion. I've always been curious how Christians square that circle. The best I've heard is, "back then they had multiple passover meals because the whole weekend was a celebration. Needless to say, this excuse didn't help.
The problem with the bible is not that there is a contradiction that is weak, but that the PERFECT GOD who ordered the BIBLE made ANY sort of contradiction AT ALL. It isn't that you can say one part is flowery language and should not be agreed to be real, but that ANY of the bible should be, and what decides, reality or your apology? It isn't that you say one part is for the ancient hebrew and the other for the modern gentile, but that a perfect and immutable being changed and demanded this be written down.
If the claim was NOT tri-omni, then Epicurus would not be a problem: the God that ACTUALLY exists is not the one described in the bible.
If the claim was NOT that the bible is inerrant in part, then contradictions in parts would not be a problem. If you claim that it is errant in parts, how do you determine?
It isn't an actual God or an actual Book that is being questioned. It is whether the Bible is written by God or that the God described therein exists.
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I remember when I was young I started to question the faith when our Sunday school teacher said the first commandment was "thou shalt not kill". But then I thought it's weird because the bible is full of God either killing people himself or ordering others to kill in his behalf..I asked my family about this and I got a "we don't question God" type of answer.
That should've been a red flag when your teacher said it was the first commandment..."Thou shalt not kill" is what, the sixth or seventh?
You probably grew up during the Vietnam War.
@@WayneSmith-lo8be I was born in 94... though we did go to a very old Baptist church
@@TheInsaneSith 5th I believe. But at the time she was in her late 60s. We had another one that said "if you need a new car God might cause you to have a wreck so you can get another car" lol
@@chilldragon4752 So, you just jump in the big water tub again and you are no longer guilty of murder.
Since I left my church, I’ve learned a lot of things I never would have thought to study and research for myself, because I was taught to just trust my pastor’s interpretation because he was God’s leader for the church, and God had given him this message. Crazy what you learn when you study things they don’t tell/teach you
Yup, God does say to trust no man and to study His word yourself. Many churches try to hide that fact
Whatd you learn?
This is a pretty laughable video. The Codex Alexandrinus says that Jehoiakim was 18 in both instances. The King James version is a horrid crap version of the bible made in the high renaissance period from the Masoretic text which only dates to 1000 AD vs Codex Alexandria from more than 1600 years ago. I love how he uses a video by some guy holding a coffee cup in his video. The man with the coffee is the fountain for all truth in Christianity LOL. Nice slight of hand Holy Kool-Aid. Most of these so called errors are just translation errors or poor scribal work. Just because HOLY KOOLAID makes a video where he has some background of books doesn't mean he ever dug into any of them. Facts are he doesn't have any of the ones behind him. Any real scholar know the KJV is a horrid version and only Christians who lack knowledge us it. Also, did you not consider that Matthew happened before Luke. DUH!!! Bloody idiots! The sad truth is that most foolish ,lazy, apathetic westerners do not do the due diligence and seek out the answers for themselves rather they take their scholarship from a damn TH-cam channel named HolyKoolaid. This is why their civilizations will fall and the elite have engineered it through... Tell us a vision(TV or the Tube or TH-cam) they occultly channel it into you and even give you the right to chose your programming (all of this used to quite litterally come from a magic crystal ball with wands/ antenna) Wake up o ye sleepers for the devil seeks to devour you all!!!
Here’s what you probably never knew. There’s something called false religions. Your pastor may have lied to you but it was either intentional or out of ignorance-meaning he didn’t know either. Some ppl grow into a religion from parents as part tradition and the kids as a result never look for themselves what is factual or not. This video however and this guy are incorrect-simply spreading misinformation. The Bible has no contradictions that’s a fact. The supposed ones he’s pointing out are not contractions-He’s simply interpreting them as if they were. Since they be too long to debunk though roughly here, there are forums web searches with each topic showing how they are not contradicting. We like to say that such dishonest individuals such as this man are lying not only to their viewers but to themselves and taking the scriptures out of context. Here are some known facts of the Bible you may not be aware of. Scholars and historians agree with the Bibles credibility-Educated ppl who understand that not every verse/account speech is to be taken literally as the Bible has symbolism metaphors figures of speech and so on. Then we have another known fact. The Bible is the most analyzed books around; Billions profess to it read it/study it daily. Under such scrutiny, errors would be found left and right if it had any. The Bible is also by far one of the most widely distributed books of all times. What this means is that there’s more bibles in print than any other books around-accessible to virtually everyone on earth. It surpasses best sellers. It’s available online in more than 1500 languages. If such book was mythological as some claim why has it survived it all. Oppression, many ppl have attempted to destroy it completely yet all had failed. The Bible has formed governments it is used to swear leaders to office and even judges. What does that say?
its funny the video has 666k views
I actually really enjoyed this. Because as a Christian I actually have always disagreed that the Bible is perfect. There's no way it can be. It's written by many men over many time periods. They made mistakes. Translation alone can account for a good chunk of those mistakes.
But that doesn't make me an atheist either. I can still believe in the God and the underlying message of the Bible but still be open minded when I see a contradiction. It just means that something is missing in the story.
And I like that u don't push ur atheism or act condescending and mean spirited either. I have no issue debating atheists but it's gotta come from a place of mutual respect. I like the way u made ur video.
You clearly understand the Bible.
I even heard some prophecy regarding time travel to change the scripture. God told some of the prophets that He allow some changes in the scripture (only minor not major changes). I just don't know which scripture had been changed by these time traveler. You can get confirmation by famous Christian researcher like Tom Horn or Steve Quayle that the existence of Time Machine. The global elite have that technology already, even some of the US politician have experiences of time travel including Obama as well.
The bible isn't perfect but not all of the contradictions he presented are actually contradictions. Instead of comparing all 4 Gospels he chose to compare only those that support his argument otherwise he would find it fall on his face. Pretty sneaky.
If you believe in God, why don't you look into the word of God that was directly passed down through angel gabriel AKA the Quran.
@@lujain3436 Was it though? Mohammad said he received the Qur'an from an angel but nobody saw it. There are also too many mistakes and errors in the Quran for it to be written directly by God.
@@lujain3436 if I believe Quran, I will not believe Jesus is Son of God, Yahweh in the fresh, The Messiah. Yes I know Jesus didn't " directly " say he is God but he use many mataphor to point himself is God. He say He is alpha and omega, the beginning and the end, he say Abraham happily seeing him (means he already exists during Abraham time), he also say he and his Father Yahweh are One, the Jews say this is blasphemy against God. Do the reader of bible see that IF JESUS directly proclaim he is God then this will end his ministry on earth. Jesus also say he is Messiah that prophecy in the Torah, even the Moslem call Jesus ISA (means saviour). If Jesus is only human prophet that he lie all the way thru New Testament bible.
“It's easier to fool people than it is to convince them that they have been fooled.” Mark Twain
“Most people don’t really want the truth, they just want constant reassurance that what they believe is the truth.” (unknown)
2nd quote cuts both ways.
What is the truth?
Or is it all made up?
Do you really believe murder is wrong?
You're believing a lie.
Without something beyond this world, all things are equally valid because we make up our own rules.
"...even as an atheist, my gut reaction is to swat these contradictions down..."... i felt that...
I’m not an atheist but would like to know why, you being and atheist, would “swat these contradictions down” ?
@@juanio7036 because of our former training. We spent so much time learning how to justify problematic things in the Bible that it's become second nature to us. Hope that makes sense
@@juanio7036 as someone who goes to a private Christian school, I can confirm that they hammer being able to defend the Bible and it’s complications all the time, to where its just natural to swat contradictions down.
I'd like to think that even amongst atheists there is a desire for a more rigorous presentation of Biblical contradictions, like the ones presented in the video. As opposed to bad-faith takes that simply intend to tear down people's sincerely held beliefs. I can't speak for them though. I'm still a believer, but rather than tying my brain in knots trying to justify these kinds of things I'd prefer to face them head on and consider what they mean for my faith.
Read the Quran, it changed my life
I remember when I first started questioning the Bible I would call out contradictions and my teachers would give me random bible verses that had nothing to do with the subject
And?
EXACTLY OMG
at some point, they just start going crazy and just give me Bible verses
I’ve noticed that as well. They’re defecting so you would forget it and moved on to something else.
@@chuckdeuces911It's called "human interaction" I know it's a pretty complicated concept but seriously, look into it. The entire basis for communication through a post on the internet is to attempt to relate to other people who might share experiences with you. So, when a person shares a memory like this the point is that others might comment below it and share their own related stories. You typing "And?" implies you don't even understand this basic form of human communication, that you're truly ignorant of how humans communicate.
@@NottherealLucifer🤓
Well, hello again. Basically, been a non-believer as far back as I can remember, yet even though I have no past religious story to tell I still absolutely enjoy videos from you, AronRa, ShannonQ, The Thinking Atheist, Paulogia, Viced Rhino, and several others. Its not like I need to be reminded or convinced, I just love the work all you guys and gals put out there.
Check out the channel Christian junkie. He has some funny stuff.
And Sir Sic
And Digital Hammurabi
Friendly Athiest is also quite good.
dont forget the little tubers out there! :D
Honestly while contradictions in the Bible are one proof that it's not the work of a god, it does give us more appreciation to the complex textual history of the works themselves.
Made up stories, like all tribal stories, a tiny bit of truth and a whole lot of bs.
Lost in translation...
weirdly god breaking his word on the cross is internally consistent
Devin Smith Needlessly "complex" and confusing.
Not to mention the bible, I'll be kind here, "borrowed" from a number of religions and story's that predated christianity.
However, christianity is not the only religion that does this.....take your pick.
“..complex textual history…”. Is that a polite way of saying we can’t figure out how much is truth and how much is fiction?
I love the cartoon Jesus. He looks like Jesus was portrayed by "The Dude" Lebowski.
He abides in us.
@@HolyKoolaid 🤣😂🤣
@Eastern fence Lizard I liked the Jesus statue in Dogma. Though my favourite scene is Metatron being sprayed with a fire extinguisher. 'Do you normally greet people with fire retardant chemicals? No wonder you're single!'
I really liked all of the animations in your video. It really brought home your points. Good job!
In case you didn't know, Jeff "The Dude" Lebowski was based on a real guy; Jeff "The Dude" Dowd. He produced Ferngully.
Religion is a primitive explanation to our own existence and consciousness when we didn’t know any better.
Genesis Chapter 1 says that God created the plants; then the animals; then man and woman together. Genesis Chapter 2 says that God created man; then the plants; then the animals; then woman. It's like it was written by two different people who never saw each other's work (largely because it was).
And they never checked after putting it together. If this was a series on imdb, it would get a 3 at best
@@CyberBeep_kenshi I'm scared of the future generations that would still believe anything in the bible
@@codex988 yupp, still no cure for that :(
@@codex988 in the U.S.A. we are far behind the norm. In Europe a lot of places stop believing in religion. I fell it creates to much war and hatred
@@paularroyo3450 might explaining a little farther, it sounds interesting
Based on my knowledge, the English Bible is a version of the Bible. To reconcile the contradictions, I suggest we go back to the original text of The Bible: The Hebrew Bible
But that's where they all came from.
the old testament was in hebrew and the new testament was in greek
@@evoccs183 Exactly.
The contradictions are in Hebrew, and they're also in the Greek Septuigent. Here's an experiment you can do to see the contradictions in the original languages. Look up the two accounts of where Aaron (Moses' brother) died and was buried. Look them up in the Strong's Concordence and look at the Hebrew words, their English meanings, their etymology, and the outline of biblical usage. You will see in black and white that there are contradictions in the Hebrew words that weren't invented by the English translators.
@@davidhoffman6980 No, Hebrew and Greek are waaay more nuanced than English .
Especially Greek, with Greek someone can create almost any interpretation they want and it would be " correct"
While I have learned Hebrew is extremely deep , one letter in Hebrew can mean a paragraph of words in English , also Hebrew words which are different only have one translation in English which has caused " loss " of interpretation
However the bible mysteriously remains coherent despite facing tests which would render any other book totally worthless case in point the koran
If I ever write a book I'm going to make sure to have this guy check it for any contradictions.
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Gn1 vs Gn2 is so commically wrong. It is literally first or second page, they lose one of main characters, not to mention all those animals etc :D
Or Moses on the mount "Thou shall not kill." Moses under the mount "Kill all these heretics!"
We are a contradiction.
We use the contradictorer to judge contradictions?
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@@noldo3837 thou shall not murder, it’s specifically talking about in the context of murder, I recommend doing your research before you conclude that something is a contradiction, most of the supposed contradictions in his videos are just textual errors and whatever translation he’s using.
In the entire first Christian century Jesus is not mentioned by a single Greek or Roman historian, religion scholar, politician, philosopher or poet. His name never occurs in a single inscription, and it is never found in a single piece of private correspondence. Zero! Zip references.
Till 325 AD, not a single historian or writer wrote about Jesus Christ or any of his disciples .
BEFORE THE FIRST COUNCIL OF NICEA IN 325 AD, NOBODY ON THIS PLANET EVER HEARD OF THE NAMES JESUS CHRIST OR CHRISTIANITY.
JESUS/ BIBLE / CHRISTIANTY WAS COOKED UP IN 325 AD, BY JEWESS HELENA , WHO SAT ON THE POPE'S CHAIR..
"Vatican is Evil terrorist satanic organisation."
If Satan does exist, then he thrives inside the Roman Catholic Church.
The dead sea scrolls covering the period from Birth of Jesus to 68 AD , does NOT say one word about Jesus or his 12 Apostles.
Hellenistic philosopher Philo Judaeus of Alexandria (20 BCE-50 AD/CE)-alive at the purported time of Jesus, and one of the wealthiest and best connected citizens of the Empire- makes no mention of Christ, Christians or Christianity in his voluminous writings. Nor do any of the hundreds of other historians and writers who flourished during the first THREE centuries of the common era.
The DEAD SEA SCROLLS were all written by Pagan Essenes . None of them have been edited by later Christians, as is the case with some other Jewish literature.
All the scrolls (except a treasure map known as the Copper Scroll) can be dated prior to A.D. 68 or 69, when the Qumran settlement was believed to have been destroyed by the Romans in the Jewish revolt.
The oldest of the scrolls probably goes back to the middle of the third century B.C. The people of Qumran belonged to a Pagan religious group known as the Essenes.
Pliny the Elder, who died during the volcanic destruction of Pompeii in the year 79 A.D., described a community of pagan Essenes living on the western shore of the Dead Sea, close to where Khirbet Qumran is situated.
John the Baptist was an ascetic Essene . He was a vegan and was uncircumcised . Various literary sources like Josephus and Philo tell clearly that Essenes were ascetics.
We also know, from literary testimony, the Dead Sea Scrolls, and the archaeological remains of Qumran, that the Essenes practiced many water baptisms for ritual purification-similar to a dip in the Ganges or the river Pampa or at Thiirunelli. At Qumran, however, all members of the community were baptized with water for ritual purification.
Josephus writes, "And as for their piety towards God, it is very extraordinary; for before sunrising they speak not a word about profane matters, but put up certain prayers which they have received from their forefathers, as if they made a supplication for its rising" (Wars, 2.8.5). This testimony accords well with what we know from the Dead Sea Scrolls.
Prayer and humility was one thing that the Essenes . When they cooked up stories about Jesus they wrote that Jesus Christ ate the Last Supper in the Essene part of town.
Jesus is not historical character, The Dead Sea Scrolls have produced increasing evidence to cement the fact that Jesus Christ never existed and the whole story was cooked up at the First Council of Nicea in 325 AD.
The FAKE gospels were written after 325 AD after Jesus was cooked up at the first Council of Nicea..
Twelve apostles of Jesus never existed.
Jesus Christ names 12 apostles to spread his gospel, and the early Christian church owes its rapid rise to their missionary zeal. Yet, for most of the Twelve, there's scant evidence of their existence outside of the New Testament.
The concept of using statistics to prove that 'God authored the Bible' is bullshit.
Why was the library of Alexandria burnt ?
The gospel of Thomas was not written by Jesus' disciple Thomas.
Englishman Godfrey Higgins studied Greek, Latin and law at Cambridge . His two-volume, 867-page book Anacalypsis: An Enquiry into the Origins of Languages, Nations, and Religions, was published posthumously in 1836.
In his treatise, Higgins writes " the mythos of the Jews and the mythos of the Greeks are all at bottom the same lifted from the ancient mythos of Hindus ; and ... are contrivances under the appearance of histories to perpetuate doctrines," and that Christian editors “either from roguery or folly, corrupted them all.”
1900, Scottish MP John Mackinnon Robertson wrote that Jesus never existed but was an FAKE invention by a first-century messianic cult. He wrote about the First Council of Nicea of 325 AD where powerful forces invented a new god to fit the needs of the society of the time .Robertson specifically mentions the Talmudic story of the Yeshu .
Thomas says: "Simon Peter said to them, ‘Make Mary leave us, for females don’t deserve life.’ Jesus said, ‘Look, I will guide her to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit resembling you males. For every female who makes herself male will enter the kingdom of heaven’" (Thomas 114).
AIYOOOOO -even Christians don’t like this
When the master of James baby Jesus Christ never existed -- how can his disciple St James exist ?
Even since the dead sea scrolls have been discovered CHRISTIANS and JEWS are jumping up and down like demented orangutans claiming that Essenes belong to them.
Dead Sea text or Qumran Scrolls have absolutely nothing ZILCH, to do with the Bible of the Torah - never mind the diabolical lies of the Christians and the Jews.
For arguments sake -even if messiah Jesus Christ existed , the gospels were written a even a century after Jesus' estimated year of death, by individuals who never met Jesus, and then were edited or forged over the centuries by unknown scribes with their own agendas.
Dead sea scrolls have been written by Essenes of the sect of Apollonius
@@pleaseenteraname1103
Get a clue!
The second explanation in regards to Jehoiachin’s age in 2 Kings 24:8 and 2 Chronicles 36:9 is that 2 Chronicles records Jehoiachin’s age when he was appointed co-regent with his father, and 2 Kings records Jehoiachin’s age when, after his father’s death, he became king in his own right. Other kings also used co-regents. David appointed Solomon king while David was still alive (1 Kings 1:33-40), and, when Uzziah was afflicted with leprosy, his son Jotham became co-regent (2 Chronicles 26:21). While there is no specific mention of a co-regency in regards to Jehoiachin, this is a plausible explanation for the difference between 2 Kings 24:8 and 2 Chronicles 36:9.
Another possibility is that in the battle, some of the 40,000 were on horse, some were on foot. The 2 Samuel author used the term ‘horseman’ to denote the whole group, whereas the 1 Chronicles author used the term ‘footman’ to denote the whole group.
These passages were written by scribes not god buddy, new testament is all gods word through jesus christ and his followers, what your implying is blaspheme
1) After visiting the temple, Joseph and Mary return to Bethlehem. (In the month since Jesus’ birth, Joseph had probably sought temporary work there, and that work had become more permanent, perhaps. It’s also quite possible that Joseph was planning to resettle his new family in Bethlehem, thinking it would be good for the Son of David to be reared in the City of David).
2) Simeon and Anna begin spreading the news that they have seen the Messiah in Jerusalem (Luke 2:25-38).
3) Sometime later, the magi arrive at Jerusalem and confirm the news on the street that the Messiah has been born (Matthew 2:1-2). Herod sends the magi on to Bethlehem, where they find young Jesus (Matthew 2:3-11).
4) The magi return home a different way, and Joseph is warned in a dream to flee to Egypt (Matthew 2:12-13).
5) After a while, Herod figures out that the magi have disregarded his wishes, and he orders the slaughter of all males two years old and younger near Bethlehem (Matthew 2:16). The “two-year” computation indicates that Jesus could have already been that old.
6) Herod dies in 4 BC.
7) Joseph brings his family back from Egypt (Matthew 2:19-21). Out of fear of Herod’s son, Joseph changes his plan to settle in Bethlehem and instead moves back to Galilee (Matthew 2:22-23).
There is nothing in the above chronology that contradicts either Matthew or Luke. The only way to find a contradiction between Matthew 2:21-23 and Luke 2:39 is to make assumptions based on a preconceived bias against the veracity of Scripture.
Some critics find another supposed contradiction in the genealogies associated with the narratives of Jesus’ birth. Matthew 1:16 says that Joseph’s father was Jacob; Luke 3:23 says that Joseph’s father was Heli. There are several theories, but the best answer to this seeming discrepancy is that Luke is recording Mary’s genealogy and Matthew is recording Joseph’s. There was no Koine Greek word with the exclusive meaning of “son-in-law,” and so Joseph is called the “son of Heli” due to his marriage to Heli’s daughter, Mary. Joseph was a “son” by marriage.
The gospels were written by four different men to four unique audiences, so it is natural that they would include different details concerning the life of Christ. But their writing was superintended by the Holy Spirit, who guaranteed that what each wrote was the absolute truth. There are differences, but they can all be harmonized. The narratives of Jesus’ birth found in Matthew and Luke are not contradictory but complementary.
Ask god for forgiveness because the time of revelations is at hand and you could end up in hell for how much blaspheme you are speaking trying to turn people away from god, no surpise tho since atheists, coming from an ex atheist, are rebellious in nature and hate God, god bless your soul and im unsubscribed now
God bless your soul and knowledge man, and thanks for this response I will be using this 🙏
Thank you for your response. I think people should reread Matthew and Luke themselves cause this is an inaccurate account of these books. If anything, Luke 2:39 says “when Jesus’ parents had fulfilled all of the requirements of the law of the Lord, they returned home to Nazareth in Galilee. The requirements of the Lord was to get up! Flee to Egypt with the child and his mother, said the angel. Stay there till I tell you to return, because Herod is going to search for the child to kill him. Matthew 2:13.
100% you seem to know your Bible very well
This comment is so beautiful
God Bless you
As a Christian trying to get deep into my faith and the Bible this helps
Wow why dont you make a video about it, you are very good, idk if i can be considerated ex atheist, because i was one for a few days, even tho i was not praticing it felt i lost something when i became one, and came back, now i a very religious and look videos about atheism to see someone do an apologetic like yours
There shouldn't be "contradictions" if God wrote the bible. He should know contradictions aren't cool, especially if he made the logical discerning human mind.
So I'm agnostic, and this is more of a mental exercise for me than anything(judging by your video, you understand well how I feel).
I did some research into some of the points you mentioned(and plan to work on the others later). Anyway:
- The contradiction between 2 Kings 24 and 2 Chronicles 36 is pretty likely a typo. But you're right, the oldest manuscript (appears to be the Septuagint here) says "8 years old". My 'educated' guess is that the originals both said "18" - and no contradiction existed. However, it does raise a difficult question for those who give meaning to every word in the Bible: how do you know they're even the right words?
- Jesus birth. I read the accounts in Matthew and Luke again just to have them fresh in mind. They don't necessarily contradict - they just have very different perspectives.
I travel all the time, and have lived in lots of different countries. If you asked a Brazilian friend of mine about my travels, they'd likely focus a lot on Brazil, and then say I went home to America(omitting 7 other countries I went to first). But if you asked my grandfather, he'd name each country with relatively equal attention.
Matthew is giving equal time to many events after Jesus' birth. Luke is only focused on Jesus' birth, and just wants to hurry along to the temple. Not contradictions, just different viewpoints.
The point about Herod was far more interesting! I found an interesting explanation though, and I'm hoping you can confirm or disprove this. It goes as follows: Josephus wrote about a lunar eclipse that happened just a little before Herod's death. That eclipse is used to date Herod's death. There was a lunar eclipse in 4BCE, but there were other eclipses that fit the same pattern in 1BCE. That being the case, Herod's death could have been in keeping with the Bible's time-line.
Thanks for the fun videos!
Edit:
Quirinius. So I also found mention of a document called the Lapis Tiburtinus - which seems to discuss Quirinius. In the document, it mentions that he became governor "for the second time in Syria". If that's the case, it would mean that his rule in 6AD was his second, and there was a previous rule that could match the Bible account.
you dont even know the definition of contradiction lol😅
Dude, I love your disposition toward this topic. You don’t sense any anger or hatred or unresolved church trauma coming through in this video. Super engaging.
He wouldn't be showing anger on the video but you can tell it's there. His contradictions are not accurate to. Doesn't take much to research these apparent contradictions.
@@mattpowell6291 His contradictions are very accurate if you are looking from an unbiased angle
highlight where they are inaccurate and we can talk
As an atheist myself I've always disliked the smug arrogant atheists. I love his approach
@@terrancemukoviya5246 In the Gospel of John is where Peter and Andrew first meets Jesus. In the Gospels of Matthew, Mark AND Luke (funny that this Koolaid guy left this fact out), you can clearly see that Peter had ALREADY met Jesus previously since in the Gospel of Luke it says " Luke 5:4 When he had finished speaking, he said to Simon, “Put out into deep water, and let down the nets for a catch.”
5 Simon answered, “Master, we’ve worked hard all night and haven’t caught anything. But because you say so, I will let down the nets.”
Why would Peter call Jesus Master if he's just met Him?
6 When they had done so, they caught such a large number of fish that their nets began to break.7 So they signaled their partners in the other boat to come and help them, and they came and filled both boats so full that they began to sink.
8 When Simon Peter saw this, he fell at Jesus’ knees and said, “Go away from me, Lord; I am a sinful man!”
Peter is already calling Jesus Lord. Seems odd. He must have met Jesus previously and in the Gospel of John, it's obvious that he did.
anger? toward the God who gave every one every thing? thats the nature of this place. you wonder why there's separation. He wants us. gave us everything and didn't withhold His own Son and we turn our backs on Him
I’m so glad that people are studying the Bible! Here are a few tips: You will find the Bible true!
Will the earth remain forever: Ecclesiastes 1:4 and Revelation 21:1
No contradiction….The Hebrew word for "forever" is: "olam." "Olam" can translate to: "Forever" or "A long finite duration"
Jehoiachin: 2 Chronicles 36:9 and 2 Kings 24:8
This is a King James translation error, which was corrected in the NIV. A translating error is not a Bible contradiction, but rather human error. The Bible is correct in the original languages it was written in.
Arameans: 2 Samuel 20:18 and 1 Chronicles 19:18
One passage is obviously referring to the drivers of chariots (700) while the other passage counts ten total men in each chariot, (including the driver) (7,000).
Jesus as a child: Matthew and Luke are different people and wrote about totally different aspect of Jesus’ childhood! Their contradiction when it is entirely possible for both accounts to be correct! Mary and Joseph fled to Egypt, and no length of time is given for their stay. They were obviously in Bethlehem for a period of time, which would allow an opportunity for the other events to take place. There is no basis or proof that both accounts do not perfectly harmonize.
Where did the family live? Joseph and Mary lived in Nazareth, but Joseph was from Bethlehem. He had to return there to pay taxes where he obviously owned property. It may have been vacant land, as It was common at the time for newly married men to begin building a house after the marriage. Mary apparently went into labor on the journey, before they reached Joseph’s home or relatives, hence the need for the stable.
The wise men: Nazareth was only six miles from Bethlehem! The family obviously travelled back and forth, so I t’s totally possible for all of the events to happen as described in the accounts! Egypt was also close by.
Herod’s wrath does not prove anything! There were obviously safe periods of time for the family to stay in either town!
The census: Luke mentions a “first census.” It seems that there were multiple censuses.
The Calling of Andrew and Simon:
These are two separate events, they both happened. Remember, the word “follower” denotes belief and adherence. It does not mean that they physically trailed behind Jesus 24/7!
Andrew becomes a follower:
In Mark, Andrew became a follower of Jesus when John revealed who Jesus was.
Simon becomes a follower:
Later Jesus found Simon and Andrew fishing and called Simon to follow Him. They left their nets and followed Him (Andrew was already a follower of Jesus)
Judas’ Money:
The field land was purchased directly by the priests and indirectly by Judas, with the price of Jesus Christ's shed blood (the blood money).
Judas’ death. The book of Acts says nothing about Judas tripping… He hung himself from a tree, and it seems that the knot did not hold, because he fell to the ground and his insides burst out.
Thank you for this. God bless you.
Devoted Muslims(Islam) say that the Christian god is false and that you must submit yourself to Allah. What would you say to such malarkey? That your bible is true but theirs is false? There’s multiple translations of the Christian bible so how’d you feel if you chose the wrong translation? Or the wrong religion? What if all religions are false and it was proven that ALL gods and goddesses are human creations?
@xaviervanhouten3047 Christianity, at its core, is NOT a religion. Its a relationship between God and man, where man is called to love, fear and follow God, with his heart.
Translations of the bible do not change the message of its Author. Its just different flavors of the same thing.
The Muslim claim is easily dismantled but would take a lot of words and time, but a few points are that
1. All prophets referred to in the quran are Jewish prophets, living in Israel and whose message are recorded by their own hands in the Torah(old testament). Then an illiterate man called mohammed came from nowhere 600 years later and said, all those people are subordinate to him and he's the crown of the prophets. He says this while raping, killing, looting, and destroying people and forcing them to his new religion. He also married and had sex with a 9 year old girl. Would you believe such a man? Because of him to this day, Muslims marry their cousins if they so wish, hate dogs, and believe all kinds of nonsense.
Would you believe such a man?
@@xaviervanhouten3047regardless of what we say or claim is the way we have to look at the supporting evidence. If we have faith in the Bible we look inwards for contradictions and contexts. Then we look at the eyewitnesses, claims, and historical evidences. Then we look at the reliability of the document, has this been preserved etc. All 3 of these can be used in any historical document to find out if it’s reliable. All of what he said is justified by a commenter on this video and show that these things aren’t contradictions. The Bible’s major claims and events can mostly be backed up by historical evidence of eyewitnesses especially in the New Testament. And the Bible is peiced together by overwhelming evidence through over 7500 manuscripts or peices of manuscripts supporting the reliability of preservation and reliability. No book in distant history comes even close to the Bible’s reliability, if anyone denies that they deny nearly all old historical texts. Run these same tests on any book in history and you’ll find reliability
@@repentedifyy 🤔”Faith” in the Bible. Faith meaning complete trust in something without evidence? Again, Muslims cherry pick from the Koran the exact same way Christians do from their bible. You didn’t provide any evidence, you just asserted that your bible’s major claims can be backed up without citing a SINGLE SOURCE. Just because you call something reliable doesn’t make it so. The eyewitnesses who were alive two thousand years ago were extremely ignorant and illiterate.
You: “The Bible is correct in the original languages it was written in.”
Quite the claim on your part! I didn’t know you could read Aramaic!
Also, the Torah came before the Christian Bible. You can’t just deny other religions of their veracity in favor of the one you presumably grew up in. There are thousands of other gods/goddesses to learn about and you happen to chose one of the last to be invented. Go learn! My favorite Goddess so far is Venus. Your homework is to study Judaism and Islam next. I think the amount of Muslims in the world will actually outnumber the amount of Christians in a few decades so Christian’s can’t use the argument ad populum any more.
I appreciate your heart on this! It's nice to see someone who's not afraid to point out the downfalls of arguments used by someone who believes the same way as himself. 🙂
Yeah, I liked that as well. I hope when I have discussions with theists like this, that they don't think I'm ignorant. I try my best.
Same. As a Christian it's interesting to know what contradictions there are. Usually they don't effect the main story or point but it's proof that the bible is not the direct word of God but rather the inspired word of God.
@@mattpowell6291 So in other words you're explaining away the contradictions and saying "sike! They don't matter much"
@@SStupendous Most of these examples aren't contradictions rather two different incidences that happened at separate times.
I wonder why these TH-camrs dont Debate Popular Theists🤔
I was in the grips of Full Gospel fundamentalism for about 13 years. I know where you're coming from and I appreciate what you're doing. Getting out of fundamentalism is no easy task
Yeah, it practically alienated me from my family.
@@AbstractM0use I can fully understand that one, once I became and agnostic atheist, most of my family looked at me as if I were quite literally the devil from their story book. They would not listen to my reasoning, they would not speak to me, they pretty much completely disowned me and would not talk to me whatsoever. They truly believed I was a demon or something. It made me realize that people are willing to throw their family away for their beliefs and it truly is saddening. Regardless of what my children are my family want to believe, that is their belief in their entitled to it, I would never hate any of them for believing what they believe. We are all entitled to believe what we wish. Not once when my family tried to bring me to church that I look at them as if they were the devil or as if they were evil for doing so even though I couldn't stand going there and they forced me into it.
You were in the loving arms of Jesus christ and you walked away. Very dangerous.
the Pentecostal denomination, right? I grew up with a televangelist father so I understand where you’re coming from.
Full Gospel Fundamentalism sounds like a cult. There is absolute truths in the Gospels though
I really enjoyed the central approach you took and how you tried to cut bias as much as possible. Refreshing. Peace ✌️
thank you for actually taking context and style into consideration rather than just posting quick jabs at the bible like most people.
The problem is he lacks the education and expertise to do this type of analysis. All historical experts (atheists) agree that these discrepancies are proof that Jesus is real. Human accounts from different people ALWAYS have significant differences, this is true for all historical events in all history. I mean, have you played the game "telephone" as a kid? Historians know that if all accounts are identical, then that is usually a sign that the historical evenmt was falsified, and the writers worked together to "get the story straight". On the other hand, if the general story is the same with differences like these, that is almost a slam dunk proof that the accounts are real.
@@Chris-hn4lp yes but that shows its not god inspired why would god inspire contradictions
6:36 - Right, wise men. The wise men from the EAST who followed a 'star in the EAST' to somehow find Jesus & fam who were currently due WEST of them, in the Levant.
Magi, wearing crowns, like they don't in the story, because they're magi, you know, sorcerers, the guys who perform miracles daily because that's their job and god wants them dead because you don't suffer a witch to live. When it comes to immortals and witches there can be only one: the biggest narcissist, that can't even kill witches who visit his son's baby shower and bring him items that are used in rituals to worship heathen gods.
The way he eventually solved it is by doing nothing and counting on christians being spastics about it and pretending it said something different than what it actually says, like they always do when something doesn't suit their romanticized image of the narcissist.
@@stylis666 speaking of "Miracles" recall that when Moses confronted Pharaoh about letting the Jews go, God performed a miracle changing the rod to a snake, and then back to a rod. But when Pharaohs aides did the same, it was called magic. A little inconsistency, there.
The irony Thomas is that you are looking more like Jesus all the time. (Yes, the updated, Europeanized one, assuming he existed at all.)
Great video!
Follow him on Facebook or Twitter he just posted a meme that emphasizes that similarity ;)
Im an athiest and yet i have an entire section of my bookshelf dedicated to various bibles, scriptures and texts from all over the world. I find its often atheists that know more about religion than those religious themselves. I feel us atheists get a way clearer view from the outside.
@@sarwarammar1733 There's no truth in the Quran
Why have you put so much time into scriptures from various religions when clearly you would liken them to fairy tales?
@@sarwarammar1733 calm down. I'm happy to prove that your Qur'an contains errors proving your religion false if you're game enough to read them?
I used to think that. Then I grew up and outgrew atheism.
@@mattpowell6291 because I like approaching it from a n academic and historical angle. Same way I'm interested in ancient religions and cults of personalities, like North Korea Juche system.
I don't know weather you'd count this as a contradiction, but I have issue with the concept of inerrancy. if the document is perfectly inerrant, but humans can interpret it differently enough to give rise to different sects that actually fought and killed each other (wait a minute, I thought no killing allowed) over those different interpretations. hmm does that mean the document isn't really inerrant or does it mean that its inerrancy is useless in a practical sense. if it can be so grossly misinterpreted as to result in war, what is the point of inerrancy?
The one where it talks about being 8 and 18, he was 8 when he started, but his families dynasty was 18 years old, so he was the son of 18 years
Also the Syriac version stated 18 as well as some Greek versions. But almost all Hebrew versions said 8 in 2 Chronicles as well.
Could be a copyist error.
My first thought - before hearing the rest - was that maybe he was 8 but under adults' authority until 18.
The whole damn book is a contradiction.
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I love him. Hail Satan. Amen 🙏 ❤️
@@bingusbongus3109 whatt 😁
It’s fascinating that most these comments are people who grew up as Christian’s and are now atheist but for me is the compete opposite lol, I pray that god blesses you all
Because kiddo, most of us actually had read Bible, not just listen to Priests and religion in school.
@@tgstudio85 same I didn’t either, it was really only after I got outta school that I learned more about Jesus because i wasn’t really told much about it growing up
I love when Christians pretend to have been a Christian. Your words show you were never an atheist.
@@Artanis15may I ask why do you believe in god
@@jamessicker there’re many different sub points I could explain to you as to why I believe in god but I don’t imagine you’d want to read a wall of text i can best put it simply as, I believe that even though I’ve sinned against fellow humans and acted out of own self interest and desire and have hurt people that I can be forgiven and saved by gods grace
I really like examining Bible contradictions. They've brought me more faith since God showed me the answer to the first one on the list.
That’s pretty much exactly how it works
How did he show you. And Jesus is not god
@@nailonross416 Jesus Christ is literally called God in the New Testament (John 20:28).
Yes! A lot of these basically boil down to either a person’s faith getting stronger by learning, or a person’s excuses for not believing anymore.
How can he be godn if hes the son
Thanks, this video helped me! I decided to give away my Bible and ignore all of it, I cannot think of a bigger waste of time than reading any of that.
Look up Jordan Peterson's podcast with Joe Rogan. Jordan has studied this stuff and believes the Bible is truer than true. He states that the Bible was the first book printed on the printing press..it spreads throughout Europe, inspires writers in new ways to understand themes of humanity which influences their writings(Shakespeare is just one.) which then influenced a culture, which spread throughout the world, revealing truths about humanity and how we relate to each other, shaping our ideas and philosophies, regarding truth and how we nagivate throughout this jacked up world.
In essence, this book that you simply want to toss away has influenced thinking and humanity in Western culture, unlike any book in the history of mankind(It is still the best selling book by the way).
You can believe in God or don't believe, but you can show the book a little respect. It's quite an amazing feat...it' has somehow survived for thousands of years.
@@rocketeightyseven1823 While true that the Bible had a great effect on humanity, it doesn't deserve respect towards influencing the advancement of humanity. It represents christianity and christians, which burned the library of Alexandria, called all scientists and wise men heretics and made Europian technological advancement completely stop. If the Bible and christianity didn't exist we would probably be better off.
@@stevanpetrovic6308 LOL. Great Britain and the United States were founded upon Christianity, all all coincided with the Enlightenment. The Framers of the US Constitution were Christians and Deists.
Shakespeare would have read the Bible and was influenced by its writing.
Better off? The US and Great Britain would probably be like a third world country.
You may say, 'What about China? Religion is forbidden and they are rich."
They're rich because the western countries have made them rich by buying their products, and those countries were heavily influenced by Christianity. You cannot get around the fact the explorers were not only trying to trade spices, but were also trying to spread Christianity.
Without it..the world would be much different and not in a good way.
As far as the destruction of Alexandria...that is debatable. It's all biased. Some scholars believe it was Julius Caesar who destroyed it when he ordered his ships to be burned. Others blame Christians and Muslims. Who knows? It is indeed fact that there were religious riots, but to place sole blame on group is simply biased.
What we know are these facts or are presumed to be legit.
Julius Caesar accidentally burned some of the library, various emperors burned some of the library when trying to stop revolts, Christian Emperor Theodisius bans paganism.
What nobody mentions is this: Works from the Library of Alexandria began to pop up in other smaller libraries. Libraries began to pop up around the Mediterranean and were more credible and the Library of Alexandria scholarship seemed less significant.
It's like comparing a cell phone form 1990 to one today. Which seems better?
The books from the library did spread out across the Mediterranean, and slowly as the Roman Empire began to wane...so did great cities. The city itself was known for violent clashes and it was not a great place to live.
Regardless, the writings of Alexandria live on in countless documents. It wasn't like it's all some big mystery of that the documents pertained.
@@rocketeightyseven1823 So basically you are saying that you don't care how much evidence you are provided with you are just going to accept whatever Jordan Peterson says? I am sure that will lead you to truth every time!
@@MrSouthernlord Not at all. The evidence speaks for itself. the Bible is an amazing book, which has made more predictions that have come true, written by writers over thousands of years, makes the bold claim to know the God outside of the universe(Science points to the universe having an exact starting point so all pantheistic gods attached the universe are clearly false), a message translated, changing cowards to shun their faith, prophets proclaiming the truth of God when they could lose their lives for telling the truth, yet they still did(Isaiah sawn in half, Nathan confronts David about his affair..the prophets could have easily said anything to tickle the ears of kings yet they spoke harsh truth), then prophecy pointing to one figure who is foreshadowed in Judaism and mentioned by name in Christianity and Islam, a name that still gets a reaction from people at the mere mention of His name, but 2000 years ago men leave their professions to follow a fisherman from Galilee, risking their lives for a "myth," proclaiming this man was indeed God in a. world where simply saying the wrong words would have you stoned. The fact the book has survived is a miracle in itself.
I often look at Israel. Is it a coincidence..the nations who bless Israel are the the most prosperous? Is it a coincidence..that any nation that curses Israel is usually in shambles?
Do you ever wonder why so many nations hate Israel and accuse them of doing what other nations do with land, yet Israel is always singled out? Even an atheist can see there is something mysterious and miraculous with Israel.
I simply use Jordan Peterson because he is a former atheist. Michael Hitchens is another example.
I discovered the truth years ago long before I even knew a Jordan Peterson even existed.
Matthew 7:7-"Seek and ye shall find. Knock and it shall be opened unto you."
If the Bible contains even one contradiction, then it obviously cannot be the word of an omniscient god.
Unfortunately, it has been corrupted by Human. Old Testament and new testament is not in its original form anymore. But Quran is still in its original form, please read it once with open heart and unbiased thoughts, you may get some lights from it.
@@javed1275
" But Quran is still in its original form"
A bullshit which is not changed doesn't become the truth...but an unchanged bullshit !
", please read it once with open heart and unbiased thoughts,"
By "unbiased", you mean with the preconceived idea this book is the "absolute truth", right ?
"you may get some lights from it."
The only light that come from the quran is the flamme when you burn one !
@@TheCyrix1 damn you did not hold back
@@TheCyrix1 I agree man. Without "bias" for believers is basically code for "god is real and no evolutionary evidence must be considered". Faith is just "bad evidence". As soon as there are no explanation for something they turn to "Faith". All made up shit. Virgin mary.... please... she had sex and didn't know who the father was....
@@MsWakeskate
First recorded lie in history : "But, but Joseph, I didn't cheat you... God did it !"
..and here all the shit begins...
I've barely barely read the book, I just remember going to church one week and the next week it was telling me the opposite lol, but one thing I remember, is not forcing God on to others, but they all do!
Contradiction doesn't bother me much, the atrocities committed and endorsed by that unholy deity do...
Adam Kotsko considers the history of God's engagement with politics as depicted in the Bible. He ultimately comes to the theological conclusion that God, for what the Bible and culture turned it into, is something like a satanic (in Christian terms) tool of oppression.
The theologian asks: how can the will of a mysterious, faceless god be elaborated so precisely? Additionally, how can a tradition with one God who's "ways are not our ways, who's thoughts are not our thoughts" follow political trends so faithfully?
The religious answer is something you agree with. It's delightfully simple. Biblical inerrancy is a lie. Paul was a businessman, he had to use strategies to sell his faith. The book acknowledges this.
The theologian proceeds, however, to clarify that the disdainful political actions of a human institution can not reflect on the abstract divinity it was founded around. One still believes in a divine force which once and still inspires the "will to live" (in schopenhaurean terms) in biological life.
You are right, in many ways, the contemporary Christian God is evil. And you are right, in many ways, that God is a construct of Christian thought. But if you believe that there are no religious people who agree with your premises and seek solutions as well, you are wrong - there are many.
The Wholly Fables aka the Bible is a collection of books full of contradictions, falsehoods and atrocities.
You spelled hole-y wrong.
The buybile is full of holes.
That's why I call it the Hole-y Babble.
Then you have the buybile thumpers that have their special buybiles with a lot of rectangular holes in them. You know, the cherry picked rectangular holes of verses that they like to wilfully, purposely, DISHONESTLY, deliberately ignore ?
@Eastern fence Lizard Yet gawd was even to fucking lazy to write it himself.
Well said.
@@gleanerman2195 Although in exodus 34 he does get off his bum and write the second set of 10 commandments on some stone tablets with his own finger. Does that count? He says to moses that he is giving the same words as he gave before (the ones that moses smashed in a tizzy) but actually they are quite different, so that is also a contradiction. The "Ten Commandments" that christians are so fond of pretending to know are actually this second set (as mentioned before, the first set were destroyed and no-one ever actually saw them) and include such moral gems as not cooking a baby goat in its mother's milk...
@Eastern fence Lizard It's hard to write when you are invisible. You try it.
Great video! I appreciated the intellectual honesty at the beginning, as those cheap "contradictions" are a pet peeve of mine. There is plenty in the Bible to criticize without being obtuse.
John 15:12-17
“My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you. Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends. You are my friends if you do what I command. I no longer call you servants, because a servant does not know his master’s business. Instead, I have called you friends, for everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you. You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you so that you might go and bear fruit-fruit that will last-and so that whatever you ask in my name the Father will give you. This is my command: Love each other”
"Love each another".
After speaking of love, Jesus deals with the hatred of those who reject the Word of God and who reject his disciples. He foretells that the world will hate and persecute Christians just as it hated and persecuted Himself. The world will be hostile to Jesus and consequently it will also hate those who live in his teaching.
Jesus therefore gives another teaching: the tribulations and persecutions to which they will be subject must not frighten them since they, strong in their faith, know that Christ, who has conquered the world, is in them. Jesus' friends are not left alone in persecutions and painful circumstances: they must know that the Defender will be beside them, the Spirit of truth who gave witness to Jesus, will also give it to them. But even the disciples living the very life of Christ will be an uninterrupted witness of his works. In fact, the Spirit, sent by the Father through the Son, will be the "soul" of the Church.
Jesus said: You are Peter and on this rock I will build my Church.
A Holy Catholic, Apostolic Church
The most common mistake of all Bible interpreters, including some critical scholars, is to read a text outside of its context
@@9000o-d9f Yes. People on all sides do it.
We must remember that the Bible was written by about 40 different authors over a period of about 1,500 years. Each writer wrote in a different style, from a different perspective, for a different udience, for a different purpose.
@@9000o-d9f Yes, I agree.
I recently started looking at these contradictions, and it is crazy how we are programmed to have blind faith in Christianity.... I had to take multiple tylenols because of the confusion.... some of these have no answers or excuses that even christian theologians say that they are big errors in the bible. If God is all wise all knowing, then He won't give contradictory texts to the people .... believing everything comes from nothing is dumb too.
Agreed that there are WAY more humans that claim to be Christian than Christians. And yes just like most humans that have narrow, shallow, static existences, these humans that claim to be Christian have the same that also includes blind faith.
Only some of these contradictions are legit human error. Have already posted comments for each one sharing the truth on each one. And the human error is awesome! It's showing that our all-knowing/loving/powerful God's will for humans to share their imperfections and mistakes in order to learn & grow with/for Him together.
Or maybe he would. I know it seems like a lame excuse but is faith without testing faith at all? If there wasn't an argument against Christianity, than there would be no atheism at all and no chance to show genuine faith in God. When you put your faith in Jesus, your signing yourself up for a ride with tests and trials to prove your faith genuine and not just a ticket to heaven.
@@jeff-lv3bn Well stated! The Bible is the primary (but DEFINITELY not the only) physical source for humans to start and grow a relationship with God together. The Bible came into existence by team God and humans. The human errors are on purpose to show God's will for humans to share their imperfections and mistakes in order to learn & grow with/for Him together. Yes, an agape love grounded life for/with God together should include confusion, frustration, etc at times...they are necessary for the deeper growth that brings humans closer to God and His jaw-dropping reality over time...and hopefully eternal life with Him in heaven.
Litteraly he Readed it all wrong
101 Clear Contradictions in the Bible
1. Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel?
God did (2 Samuel 24: 1)
Satan did (I Chronicles 2 1:1)
2. In that count how many fighting men were found in Israel?
Eight hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
One million, one hundred thousand (I Chronicles 21:5)
3. How many fighting men were found in Judah?
Five hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
Four hundred and seventy thousand (I Chronicles 21:5)
4. God sent his prophet to threaten David with how many years of famine?
Seven (2 Samuel 24:13)
Three (I Chronicles 21:12)
5. How old was Ahaziah when he began to rule over Jerusalem?
Twenty-two (2 Kings 8:26)
Forty-two (2 Chronicles 22:2)
6. How old was Jehoiachin when he became king of Jerusalem?
Eighteen (2 Kings 24:8)
Eight (2 Chronicles 36:9)
7. How long did he rule over Jerusalem?
Three months (2 Kings 24:8)
Three months and ten days (2 Chronicles 36:9)
8. The chief of the mighty men of David lifted up his spear and killed how many men at one time?
Eight hundred (2 Samuel 23:8)
Three hundred (I Chronicles 11: 11)
9. When did David bring the Ark of the Covenant to Jerusalem? Before defeating the Philistines or after?
After (2 Samuel 5 and 6)
Before (I Chronicles 13 and 14)
10. How many pairs of clean animals did God tell Noah to take into the Ark?
Two (Genesis 6:19, 20)
Seven (Genesis 7:2). But despite this last instruction only two pairs went into the ark (Genesis 7:8-9)
11. When David defeated the King of Zobah, how many horsemen did he capture?
One thousand and seven hundred (2 Samuel 8:4)
Seven thousand (I Chronicles 18:4)
12. How many stalls for horses did Solomon have?
Forty thousand (I Kings 4:26)
Four thousand (2 chronicles 9:25)
13. In what year of King Asa's reign did Baasha, King of Israel die?
Twenty-sixth year (I Kings 15:33 - 16:8)
Still alive in the thirty-sixth year (2 Chronicles 16:1)
14. How many overseers did Solomon appoint for the work of building the temple?
Three thousand six hundred (2 Chronicles 2:2)
Three thousand three hundred (I Kings 5:16)
15. Solomon built a facility containing how many baths?
Two thousand (1 Kings 7:26)
Over three thousand (2 Chronicles 4:5)
Oh my gosh..so many more left still 🤡
Sorry guys but the book contains so many errors I can't even write them down 💩🤣
I gave up religion when I was 11 and a Sunday school teacher told me to disregard the geological age of the earth because my school teacher didn't know what he was talking about
Except the bible doesn't specifically say the earth is less than 10k years old. It literally says "In the beginning." Are we to think the Earth is 13B years old there too? No.
Stop basing you arguments in mythology
@@UltrEgoVegeta I highly recommend you "dig" deep into modern dating methods. Almost all of it is circular, and radiometric has been proven to be wildly inaccurate/inconsistent. There are some major issues with it. Take the time to search the matter out.
@@keithboynton I can't tell which way your sarcasm leans, but I'll bite either way. You could... but what would be better is actually going out and digging up actual specimens yourself and bringing them to independent labs and have them date your findings... and then, you can receive a whole host of varying data that doesn't line up with any "modern" consensus. Numerous people have done it. And then when you confront the lab about this dinosaur bone being dated to 10,000-50,000 years, they'll say "Oh... sorry, must have been contaminated." Then you can go through that process again with other samples and/or other labs. And they'll return the same dates... and give the same excuse again when questioned about it. That's not even getting into the insane dates given to recently (
@@zb9795 lol, cute
(8:20) Did this census require men to return to the town of their birth? Because that doesn't make sense to me. Wouldn't a census want to know where you currently live, rather than where you were born?
Yes, that's a problem which a number of scholars have pointed out. It doesn't make much sense, but the author had to get him to Bethlehem somehow.
@@HolyKoolaid I read that in an aburdly dramatic voice. Probably Ryan Reynolds.
@@HolyKoolaid One argument I've seen is a fine bit of pulling something out of the ass where the claim is that Joseph owned property in Bethlehem and therefore, as a landlord, had to go down there. Which is based on the claim that since, as descendant of David who had lived there roughly 1000 years before, Joseph clearly must have inherited some property!
Special pleading isn't nearly adequate enough to describe that leap of logic.
@@HolyKoolaid Apparently biblical authors were also (willfully?) ignorant of Roman law.
By Roman law Jesus would have been awarded a lawyer. The prosecuting lawyer would have been granted time to investigate. An hearing would have ensued and if and only if Jesus was deemed culpable of some nefarious deed (according to a jury) the proconsul (or the propraetor) would have decided if Jesus was to die.
In the Bible Jesus is never granted a councel (check my orthography), no investigation is conducted and Pilatus never appears before the Priests decide to condemn Jesus.
@@flavionessuno5085 The whole trial(s) scene(s) are complete impossible nonsense.
10 years ago this month I left the Mormon Church , now i see Jesus and Joseph Smith the same as I do the Book Of Mormon and the Bible . Many who leave Mormonism go right to Jesus and the Bible . Faith with fragile facts . Keep up the good work . And new look with background is #1
Is there a claim in ANY book of the Bible that ALL other books of the Bible are inerrant or do not contradict? After all, it would be WEIRD if the books of the Bible claimed inerrancy vis a vis other books of the Bible since the books of the Bible were not written with the intention to be included together. Strange that "inerrancy" is a criteria claimed only by fanatical believers and fanatical unbelievers...
@@wesleywalkerthewriter I'm sorry... what are you trying to claim here? Are you religious? I'm not going to try to discredit your argument based on your views, I'm just very confused.
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RE: " Strange that "inerrancy" is a criteria . . ."
"Criteria" is plural; "criterion" is singular.
@@TheMagicalArden What is confusing you, exactly? Atheists scream about "inerrancy" more than the fanatical believers. Does the Bible actually ever claim to be inerrant? Yes or no?
@@spaceman081447 When's the last time you used the word "agendum"? :) Now respond to the question.
I remember asking these questions in church. All the responses were “You lack faith.” And “We don’t question God.” That and many other things got me to leave the church while still believing in God. I just don’t trust the organizations using his name to gain massive amounts of lands, wealth, and followers while doing nothing to better society.
Jesus wants us to come questioning, like doubting Thomas. It’s good that you still believe in God, but I encourage you to try finding another church that is more biblical. God made us to have relationships and be known by others in the church. It’s important to be in a community of believers. I’ll be praying for you :)
That’s because you’re asking the wrong people, only strong believers in the faith who actually study their Bible can respond to these type of questions, ofc we can’t answer all of them because the Bible is way to big for that, sadly most people in church just go to feel good about themselves and when anyone ask them a question in the Bible they likely don’t know the answer, probably can’t even explain basic stuff like who is Paul or why did Jesus die on the cross
@@2005WH To clarify this isn’t asking random patrons of the church. I’m talking asking Pastors and Elders of the Church types. The answers always were the same and seem like indoctrination responses. Things you hear the moment you watch those “I left the X group” shows. If those leaders aren’t “strong believers” then how’d they get those positions especially since the Bible says God placed them there and we don’t go against them. (Romans 13)
@@Firstgenamerican21 read revelation 2-3
@@Firstgenamerican21 sadly even it applies to pastors, this is what scripture says will happen in the future, I’ve been saved for 3/2 years now, I’ve studied my Bible almost every single night for 4 hours, I’ve been in probably thousands of debates with atheist agnostics and other Bible related stuff, and speaking from experience, each question atheist ask such as God is evil he did this and that, or why did God put the tree in the garden, or what was the point of Jesus dying then resurecting, don’t that make his death pointless, or Bible says no man has seen God, it this verse says you have send God, the list goes on, but with a little studying, these kind of questions can be answered, it’s mainly a problem of context, the Bible can very easily be misunderstood, such as James 2 for example, I know many Christian’s who say that we are saved by works because James says so, it sounds like that also, but read in context and it’s actually saying that faith produces works, but the works itself doesn’t save you, or people saying, Jesus isn’t God when Bible mentioned multiple times that he is, context is very important, and in a lot of things can be difficult to find the context of the verse, but the Bible is for the child of God, the believer, we have a kind of understanding of the word that is different than the rest of the world, God reveals the secrets of his word when he wants us to understand, this applies only to the true believer of God, but Bible is clear that many are called, but few are chosen
Why is Judas so hated as he was part of Jesus's plan of suicide by Romans!
You'd think they'd show him a little love as he set the ball rolling but nope. He's really despised.
@D.O.M. : Judas has been vilified, for only giving location information about Jesus, due to Christianity's historical bias against him, and Jesus saying it would have been better for Judas if he had never been born. In contrast, Peter is revered even though he denied knowing Jesus three times and also ran off, like all the other disciples did, after Jesus was arrested. The lesson here is it's better to deny knowing someone than to give location information about their whereabouts.
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Exactly, but if Judas hadn't given location how would Jesus have been sacrificed for us? By swallowing a fish bone at the last supper?
@@d.o.m.494 Jesus came into the world to be crucified/sacrificed in accordance with God's perfect plan. Jesus had a public and private ministry for over three years before his arrest. He could have been arrested anywhere, either earlier and/or later, by either Roman and/or Jewish authorities with help from anyone else pointing out who Jesus was. My opinion is that Jesus just didn't like Judas Iscariot, and he made him the fall guy for that reason alone. This is similar to God saying he loved Jacob but hated Esau. The bottom line is some mother******* are just born under a bad sign! Are you one of them?
@@AF276300 That was a total set-up from the beginning then. Jesus is an asshole.
Sounds like when were taught the doctrine of inerrancy, you missed the part about only the autographs being inerrant. Aside from the "King James only" crowd, no Bible-believing Protestant will claim that the transmission of the text has been perfect. There are over 400,000 discrepancies in the New Testament manuscripts alone. Of that number, however, only about 1000 of them are both meaningful and viable.
By "meaningful," I mean "changes the meaning of the text;" and by "viable," I mean, "may possibly accurately represent the autograph."
1000 is still a lot, but not a single one of them changes any Christian doctrine. They are things like spelling, pronouns, etc. Some of them, like the Comma Johanneum or the Pericope Adulterae are easily explained by some good detective work.
I am less fluent in Old Testament textual criticism, but the age (8 or 18) of Jehoiachin is clearly a copyist error. In Hebrew, the difference between 8 and 18 is a very small pen stroke, and somewhere along the way, it got dropped or added. But as a Christian, I don't care how old he was. It doesn't change what I believe, and I am sure that the autographs of 2 Chronicles and 2 Kings were in agreement.
For your 2 Samuel vs. 1 Chronicles example, the same problem exists with the 700 vs. 7000 as above. One small pen stroke, added or lost by a copyist. We also have to agree on the definition of the word "contradiction." To my understanding, two statements are not contradictory if they can both be true. Is it possible that David killed both 40,000 horsemen and 40,000 foot soldiers? Yes. But more likely this a generalization. If David's men killed 40,000 men of the enemy army, and some were on foot and some were on horses, I can easily see the writers conflating that to keep the narrative simple.
Your problems with the accounts of Jesus's birth are reading so many things into the accounts that it is hard to even know where to begin to correct you. It seems like you have been more influenced by the movies than the scriptures in your understand of what happened. In brief, Mary and Joseph were from Nazareth; the census required Joseph to go to Bethlehem; Mary, who was pregnant, went with him, as he may not have been planning to return. Likely, they stayed at the home of a relative. The Greek word that (sadly) the KJV translated as "inn" actually means "guestroom." In those days, families lived on the ground floor, while usually keeping an upper room for guests. It is likely that Joseph and Mary sought lodging in the upper room, but there were other relatives already there, leaving them no room.
Also in those days, families with animals would normally bring them into the house during cold months, and the family would also move to the upper room. Thus, there was a manger on the ground floor, and this is where they were forced to stay.
Note that NONE of this is explicitly spelled out in the Bible, but is a strong possibility based on what we know of history.
They may have been staying there for weeks when Mary gave birth. The shepherds saw the angels and came to the house to see the child. Mary, Joseph and Jesus continued to live in the house for some time, we don't know how long. But when the Magi arrive, they end up seeing Jesus at the house where they were living.
Herod had had his fill of purported Messiahs and was not particularly interested in any rumors of yet another Messiah being born -- that is, until some rich gentlemen came from far away seeking him. This could be anywhere from a few weeks to up to two years since Jesus was born. Thus Herod has every male child up to two years old put to death, which wouldn't have made sense if it was immediately after Jesus's birth.
The holy family flee to Egypt, the infants are murdered, and they stay in Egypt until Herod the Great is dead (which historians believe was in 4 BC, which would put the birth of Jesus somewhere between 6 BC and 4 BC). The holy family leave Egypt to return to Bethlehem, but when they hear that Herod's son is ruling in his place, they decide it would be safer to return to Nazareth.
All of that fits neatly with both Luke's and Matthew's gospels, and there is not one thing in either gospel that contradicts the other.
I'm not going to keep going because my hands are tired. Grace and peace to you.
What about the first commandment? Thou shalt not kill? But God kills and orders his people to kill....
Appreciate your efforts:) What about the census part? Census 6CE vs Herods death 6BCE?
Don't you think that if God loves humanity and wants them to be saved, he would make sure the bible wasn't so inaccurate and up to misinterpretation? Also we don't know who wrote those gospels. Calling them Luke's and Matthew is disingenuous.
@@johannarivers57 It basically comes down to a "he said, she said" between Josephus and Luke. The Bible is the best attested ancient manuscript, with far more copies, and dated much earlier than any other ancient document, including Josephus's Antiquities. I think it comes down to which author do you choose to believe?
@@VolrinSeth no, I don't. I am a calvinist. I believe that God chose those whom he would save before he created the world. There are therefore things which God has allowed to be confusing so that the reprobate would not be saved. Listen to these words of Jesus:. 10 When he was alone, the Twelve and the others around him asked him about the parables. 11 He told them, “The secret of the kingdom of God has been given to you. But to those on the outside everything is said in parables 12 so that,
“‘they may be ever seeing but never perceiving,
and ever hearing but never understanding;
otherwise they might turn and be forgiven!’[a]”. Mark 4:10-12
The Jesus "hate your family" thing... is like the start of every cult.
Ha! So true. As far as I can tell Jesus was just a failed end times rabbi. He urged people to give everything they possessed to the poor and follow him. Then he exclaimed that the poor would always be with them. Which is it, dumb ass?
Isn't the bosses son always an asshole?
@Matthew 11:28-30 , if it's in the bible you must believe it.
No One ever uses Hyperbolye to make a Point so naturally everything Jesus said was meant to be 100% Literal.
Oh and Fundamentalist Christians Definitely Think it is 100% all Literal and No Hyperbole is ever used.
@@richardjones4662 - Believing what is in The Bible does not mean believing everything anyone says is mean to be taken at face Value 100% Literally all the Time.
When someone says something is a Metaphor they are not saying I do not believe X. Though this is not a Metaphor. Its an Exaggeration. And people use it all the Time.
@@skwills1629 , and what is the point of believing anything in the bible? If it was written with "god inspired inspiration".. why wasn't every translation also written with "god inspired inspiration". And if many parts of it can be discarded, why not just discard the rest?
Ecclesiastes 1:4 states, "One generation passeth away, and another generation cometh: but the earth abideth for ever." This verse emphasizes the transient nature of human life contrasted with the enduring permanence of the earth.
Human Transience: Generations of people come and go, highlighting the fleeting and temporary nature of human life.
Earth's Permanence: Despite the continuous cycle of human generations, the earth remains constant and unchanging over time.
Reflection on Life: This verse encourages reflection on the impermanence of individual lives and the enduring nature of the world, often leading to a broader contemplation of the meaning and purpose of life within the context of eternity.
his passage fits into the broader theme of Ecclesiastes, which often contemplates the fleeting nature of worldly pursuits and the search for lasting meaning and fulfillment.
Isn't the account of Noah and the flood one huge contradiction unto itself?
Not a contradiction so much as an Aesop's fable. Go a little further . . .
Genesis 10:5 says multiple languages in multiple nations
Genesis 11:1 says the whole earth was of one language
(Genesis 11 is the start of the Tower of Babel story.)
@@rickmartin7596 It’s a stolen flood myth
Didn’t you know that?
@@FlyingSpaghettiJesus You mean from the Epic of Gilgamesh? Yeah, I knew that.
@@rickmartin7596 👍🏻
@@rickmartin7596 No there are definitely contradictions, eg reason for the flood, number of each animal, length of time it rained etc, because there are two different stories intertwined and the redactor just said bugger it, I'm going to put everything in and leave it at that.
The timeline shown in this video, such as at 7:40, makes the opposite mistake from the one that is often seen. It's true that there was no "year zero", but that doesn't mean that there was just a single "year one" for both BC(E) and AD/CE. There were two. The sequence should be 2 BCE, 1 BCE, 1 CE, 2 CE. So the years 2 BCE and 2 CE were three years apart. Not two (and not four).
I like how both Matthew and Luke disagree about Jesus genealogy.
Or about the resurrection history among the 4 gospels
Funny, those are the two things that I quite explicitly remember being problematic for me when I was a Christian so many years ago.
@@cullenkehoe5184 The "wink" is that God is his father, not Joseph. Nothing to do with Mary's genealogy, that's just a desperate and stupid apologetic. Luke looked at Matthew's genealogy and said, as he did many times, "Bullshit, I can make up better stuff than that!"
@@lil-al some explanations for that is the levirate marriage. But it alone doesn't explain the divergence. And if it was the case, the child is considered descendant of the dead man, not of his brother.
Also, the number of generations between David and Jesus in Matthew is 28, as the text itself claims.
But in Luke we have almost 40. An average of 20 years per generation, the genealogy in Luke should be 200 years ahead of the one in Matthew.
This is one of the reasons why Judaism doesn't legitimate Jesus as the Messiah.
The main problem is that he supposedly had no biological father. Hence, he could not be David's descendant. Even if we grant one of the genealogies as being about Mary, this has no value in Jewish tradition.
And from Luke, he could not be the Messiah because he is Nathan's descendant. The tradition says the Messiah would come from Solomon's line.
@@victorpaesplinio2865 Nathan is also David's son. Solomon worshipped false gods in his old age. Yah is jealous when it comes to that. Jesus' predictions/prophecies are being fulfilled every year. Repent..He is the True LORD.
Your first example of 2 chronicles and 2 kings is wrong. They both say the same age, same length of ruling and that he went against the Lord. Already not a good start.
Another thing not mentioned here is that Nazareth was part of Galillee, NOT part of Judea. Even if there was a Roman census (SPOILER: There wasn't) that required them to travel to Bethlehem, the residents of Nazareth wouldn't have cared in the slightest, since Nazareth wasn't part of Roman Judea.
edit - This is made OBVIOUS in the graphic at 8:23
Is that addendum enough to win me a copy of that book?
@@cullenkehoe5184 If Jesus was counted in a Roman census he would not have been put on a cross. Death by crucifixion was not allowed by Roman law for Roman citizens.
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You're correct, but Herod 'the great' died around 5 BC and his sons ruled over a divided kingdom. Judea and Galilee were separate kingdoms before Jesus was ever born and Galilee was never a Roman province (neither before nor after Jesus life/ death).
Instead, Galilee was a client state. They ran their own affairs and paid tribute to Rome, who in turn offered protection to Galilee, though no legions were stationed there. A resident of Galilee travelling to Judea to participate in a Roman census there would be like a Russian moving to Poland to be able to be counted in a Polish census. There's no reason for any of it. I mean, it's not like ANY nations kept track of its random citizens who had travelled abroad or emigrated elsewhere.
It's ESPECIALLY ridiculous when you consider that the Romans didn't perform censuses to find out demographic info and population statistics. Censuses were conducted to catalogue taxable properties. This raises at least two insurmountable hurdles for the Jesus narrative:
(1) Why would a resident of an independent kingdom leave that kingdom and travel to a neighbouring Roman province to be part of a census in a foreign nation?
(2) Why would anyone do all of that, just so that they could pay taxes in both their home kingdom AND the neighbouring Roman province?
Lastly, ALL of the above is predicated on the assumption that there WAS a Roman census undertaken in Judea at the time. There's (A) no evidence of any such census and (B) there IS evidence that no such census took place.
So, there's a LOT more to it than what I wrote in my brief initial comment, but when it's all taken together, it paints a bleak picture for any christian who believes that the story of jesus is a true/ accurate one. The story of jesus is so full of mistakes/ of errors/ of nonsense, that any bible-believing christian would have to acknowledge that the story surrounding jesus' birth is entirely fictional. That doesn't necessarily mean that mythicists are right and that jesus never existed. It just means that we have VERY good evidence and thus very good reasons to believe that the story about jesus birth are fictional stories.
But didn't the gospel say that Joseph went to his home town of Bethlehem for the census? Nothing really to do with Nazareth
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The gospels say that they left Nazareth and went to Bethlehem for the census.
Again, the problems with that is that they are leaving one kingdom and travelling to a neighbouring kingdom to participate in a census that they don't need to participate in, since they live in a different kingdom.
Again, another problem is that a Roman census was for tax purposes and keeping track of taxable property, not for keeping track of people, so if they DID leave Nazareth to travel to Bethlehem for a census, then it means that they left their home kingdom, where they paid taxes to the kingdom of Galilee, just so they could pay taxes again, but this time to the Roman province of Judea. This is not something that human beings do.
Again, a MAJOR problem is that there is no record of ANY such census in Roman Judea at this time and there are enough extant records, such that if there were a census, we would know about it. No Roman census was undertaken in Judea until many years after the reported birth of jesus (Yeshua Bar Yoseph).
SO, the recurring problem here is that the gospels say all the wrong things. They talk about things that didn't happen, but that even if they DID happen, would have been utterly irrelevant anyway (to jesus and his family).
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Re - death of Herod the Mediocre
Yeah, I knew he died around 5 BC, which is why I said "around" 5 BC, rather than "precisely" 5 BC. But thanks for reminding me of the reported year.
As for Herod the Average's kingdom:
If Jesus was born during Herod's Tetrarchy, then Palestine would have been a Client Kingdom of Rome, and not a Roman province, so there would have been NO Roman census at all (any census undertaken would have been a Palestinian census, raising taxes for the Kingdom of Palestine, which would then have been used- in part- to pay tribute to Rome). If Jesus was born after the death of Herod The Insecure, then Judea would have become a Roman province and thus a Roman census COULD have been conducted, even though none were, until many years after the expected year of Jesus' birth, while Galilee would have been an independent kingdom, albeit a client kingdom of Rome.
It's refreshing in a way to stumble across a non-believer channel that makes very valid logical points. Christians who are true and honest about their faith need to wrestle with this and either discover a somewhat justifiable evidence against it or come up with a logical explanation for it. Thank you for your content and may God reveal the truth to us!
Yeah he ain't gonna reveal anything cuz God doesn't exist. It's all made up.
@@salserokorsou historical and philosophical evidences make a good case that he does! Not to mention that the complexity of life and information usually points towards a designer rather than from natural chaos
@@AlphaeusNg are you taking about the racist homophobic sexist warlord murderer rapist and incompetent God? 👀
@@AlphaeusNg like your laryngeal nerve that you use for talking wrapping around your heart before it goes to your mouth?
@@juiceoverflow like the fact that you're a living being capable of producing living off springs and having your own thoughts! The commonality of us seeing life sometimes make us forget the wonder and awe of it. Thank you biology and chemistry for helping us understand the intricacy of it!
Being raised by my deeply religious Grandmother, and forced to endure a Catholic mass every Sunday, I naturally began to see the inconsistencies and questioned her about them. She had only one reply (answering a question with a question); "Who are you to question the Lord?"
Yes that’s a good point, some people in the church don’t dig in to the issue or ask someone else. A lot of so called contradictions do have reasonable answers. It’s ok to ask questions and get to the bottom of a problem.
The same answer muslims would give. Believers afraid of questioning their holy books.
I'm the guy who has to deal with his shit
@@farmercraig6080 You mean apologetics. They have apologetics, not reasonable answers.
@@neoqwerty Apologetics can show that the original question can have a reasonable answer.
You’ve done a terrific job of reading The Bible to the word, processing the stories and analyzing the context in each one. The differences between the accounts of how Jesus called His first two disciples don’t actually tell two different stories. They compliment one another, filling in the spaces between events. In John 1, it says:
“Andrew, Simon Peter’s brother, was one of the two who heard what John had said and who had followed Jesus.”
John 1:40 NIV
It doesn’t necessarily mean he followed Jesus AFTER hearing John. It says he heard what John said AND he had followed Jesus, meaning the story of them being in the boat could have happened earlier, thus making it true that they heard John and had followed Jesus. There’s context that matters and each gospel gives us more information, not less or opposing details. It’s our job to trust that it is true. Evidence is important but eventually, we’re seeking evidence and not Jesus and that’s stripping ourselves of the ability to have faith.
Thanks man
Christians often speak of " context" but it seems to only be important when validating their point of view.
What about juda?
It's this yearning for evidence-less faith that makes religion so silly.
@@favourloveislove1967 what about Juda?
Thanks for the knowledge. I grew up Baptist. My son, the Atheist, said to me, “So…you questioned the church in grade school, that’s why they hate you. You’re one step away from becoming an Atheist.” I do, still, believe in a Creator, and, I’m searching for the secrets that are to be revealed.
I'd be interested to know why if you questioned the church since you were a youngster, what is keeping you "still believing in a creator?"
@@karenryder6317 you can still believe in a creator while questioning certain doctrines
Come to Islam the truth
Deist. Maybe you are a Deist.
@@sultanalbluwi7277 ratio
The first time I noticed the contradictions in the Bible was the question of who was at Jesus’s tomb when he rose.
Why was Jesus Jewish but also God…..?
...before even questioning the historical factual reality of either the tomb or the resurrection in the first place...house of cards...
Great video! You mentioned some contradictions I never noticed when I was a believer.
There’s this argument some theists use to defend the Bible as the word of God, something like: it is a very complex text that needs to be studied and scrutinized, it is not meant for everyone, that’s why we need ministers. (Don’t quote me on this, I’m just paraphrasing).
The thing is, the Bible itself claims God’s intention is to save everyone and to bring as much people to believe in him, yet other parts claim totally the opposite that salvation is just for a few.
Whatever the case, I have a really hard time trying to figure out why would an almighty god allow his book (his own words) turn to such a confusing, contradictory, flawed text that needs to be interpreted… instead of inspiring authors to write a clear, concise, straight to the point book that can be easily read and interpreted by all humans.
The complexity of this book automatically excludes a HUGE percentage of humanity from being able to even understand what the text is saying.
Here’s a reply video, if you would like to see a reasonable response th-cam.com/video/FGGsmcklGaM/w-d-xo.html
Your answers...Does he want us to have evidence? No. Does he want us to have ammunition to have strong arguments he exists? No
Does he want there to be arguments FOR THE DOUBTERS? Yes.
He wants everyone. Everyone that believes with 100 reasons not to but does anyway. That answers all your questions.
I am an agnostic (brought up Protestant Christian). I think the obvious Christian answer is the question of free will: God is all-powerful but doesn't want a whole lot of unthinking followers who don't use the brains he gave them. So humans have free will: they can choose what to believe and how to act. They are given guidance on what is the right way to act, and encouragement and support to do what is right (e.g., not to kill, not to commit adultery, not to treat other people badly but to behave to others as they would wish to be treated themselves). But they do have to choose what to believe and how to behave. If salvation is not for everyone, it's because individual humans decide not to accept it or to think they accept it but in fact disobey all the teachings of the religion. And since humanity is flawed, then there can be flaws in how individuals perceive and remember events and transmit their memories. Because the flawless teachings and other material in the Bible is transmitted through a chain of flawed humans, discrepancies creep in.
I wonder if this is part of what the Apostle Paul meant when he wrote that now we see as if through a glass, darkly--i.e., dimly, not clearly--and then in heaven will be able to see everything exactly as it is?
I realize this conflicts with the belief of some Christians that the Bible text is inerrant, but of course that is why other Christians and of course non-Christians have difficulties in dealing with those Christians who believe every word of the Bible is literally true, and who can't distinguish between moral teaching, history, legend, and poetry.
@@elainechubb971 Shouldn't you at least like my comment if you are going to glean inspiration from it?
I have taken the Temple of Apollo, there are gold religious objects there, take what you wish. My gifts to you.
@@bellmeisterful I am sorry if I have inadvertently offended you. I don't think my comment draws from yours; I was simply expressing what I remember from my churchgoing days and particularly Confirmation classes. I obviously didn't make this clear.
0:56 the "forever" in ecclesiastes is saying like the sentence "this is taking forever" meaning taking too long
I'm neither Jew nor Christian, but The Book of Ecclesiates is magnificent, and the KJV recounts it in the style of Shakespeare. Everyone should read it, just for pleasure.
I don't want to be toxic but at some point you will wish that you took the Bible seriosly. Next thing happening is Israel getting destroyed and the currency will be changed into a system in which you can't buy nor sell unless you take the mark. Due to fair play I won't tell you what the mark is, but it already has been introduced and will be used within the next years.
Read proverbs!!! Jesus loves you, may you come to him in Jesus name!!
@shiftypappi9272 Piss off with your evangelism. It's remarkably ill-mannered.
@@annalieff-saxby568 Shut it demon
Nope
If he really love's us then he would come back with a book clear from contradictions@@eliYAHu.27
Examination of biblical contradictions never gets old. Well done!
The Judas one isn’t a contradiction it harmonizes perfectly, and it says in Matthew 27 a priest bought land with Judases blood money. “The chief priests picked up the coins and said, “It is against the law to put this into the treasury, since it is blood money.” 7 So they decided to use the money to buy the potter’s field as a burial place for foreigners”. Also you trip on a rock, and your guts don’t bust open; he’s inferring that Judas tripped and fell to his death because it’s says headlong which means falling head first, however, you can fall headlong after being hanged for so long your guts burst and fall from the cliff unto the ground.
And it appears that Jesus can’t encounter Andrew and Simon more than once on separate occasions and ask them to follow him. This guy assumes that they are on Jesus’ tail everywhere he went. Jesus sent his disciples away from himself at times. SMH.
The Bible or you read it all or you don't read it and the Bible is the word of God and the Bible must be read with the help of Jesus and the Holy Spirit
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Jesus said:"Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons.." -Matthew 7 How did that "man" know that more than 2 thousand years AFTER HE DIED; ALL THAT WILL HAPPEN, There are so "Many" christian religions today, doing exactly what He prophesied more than 2000 years ago.
"Remember the former things, those of long ago;
I am God, and there is no other;
I am God, and there is none like me. I make known the end from the beginning" -Isaiah 46
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@@9000o-d9f Really? Which one is the better interpreter: Jesus or the Holy Spirit. When I was a Christian I never could figure that one out.
I remember how my fellow believers (back when I was one of them) would try to reconcile the Judas problem. They'd argue that Judas bought the field, but then hung himself, and then when they were taking his body down, it fell and the intestines spilled out. And THEN the priests bought the field. Just absolute ridiculous gymnastics to try to avoid admitting that these are two different stories that can't possibly be made to agree with each other, meaning that they'd have to admit that the Bible is a collection of stories by different people who contradicted each other.
And if you bring up this nonsense to a Pastor he'll inform you that if something is hard to believe or understand, that's only greater confirmation and proof of God's work. Because, you see, God is an intelligence far greater than human understanding, so we expect to lack understanding of his word. So just because it's completely illogical and nonsensical doesn't mean it isn't true!
You know they’re in separate books of Bible right? You know they are meant to be different accounts according to them particular writers right?,
@@deuteronomy6411 "You know they're meant to be different accounts according to each particular writer right?"
But that is exactly where the problem lies!. Which account is correct? They can't both be correct, so one of the accounts is wrong. Now we have a credibility problem. If one of these accounts is wrong, what other accounts in the Bible could be wrong?
Why are these accounts meant to be different as you say? What's the purpose of having a story in the Bible that isn't true? It harms the credibility of every account in the Bible.
No One argues Judas bought he Field then later the Priests bought he Feild.
- Judas hung himself when he realized his whole purpose in life was to be set up as the betrayer of Jesus so he could die for our sins. 🙄 Otherwise the whole salvation thing would fall apart & we wouldn't have any *Easter baskets,* no colored eggs or chocolate bunnies.
Ecclesiastes 1:4 verse about the earth being here forever, in context the Preacher is talking about how the earth lasts for all of man's time on this earth, as all the generations of man will live on this one earth.
I'd love to see a video like this about the book of Mormon. The mormons treat it as this infallible cornerstone of their religion, but it always felt like a sort of fan fiction for the bible to me.
The Book of Mormon is the product of a single author, so you would expect it to have more internal consistency.
Makes you wonder what fanfiction the Bible was written after
Have you heard of the CES Letter? It basically points out everything that's wrong with the book of Mormon and the religion as a whole. I mean it's a total takedown.
MythVision did a 21 episode event on book of mormon
@@BileDuctBalderdash messapotamian
1:56, I will present two approaches to resolve the discrepancy:
1) King Jehoiakim wanted to forestall possible disputes over succession to the throne in case of his death. In addition, he knew that his survival as king depended completely on the mercies of Nebuchadnezzer, who could remove him at will, as the Egyptian Neco had deposed his brother. His fears were well founded, since Nebuchadnezzer removed him in disgrace. To anticipate such a vacuum of power, Jehoiakim appointed his son to be crown prince when he was only eight years old.
2) the "eight years" mentioned in Chronicles refers to the eighth year of Nebuchadnezzer's reign, as is implied in 2 Kings 24:12. In that year the 18-year-old Jehoiachin became king.
Much of this occurred shortly after the Bronze Age collapse
I literally JUST discovered this channel. I will likely be binge watching every episode out there. This man is BRILLIANT and I could listen to him all day.
God is brilliant and I read His bible and pray to Him all day in my heart! I prove my faith in the bible by my actions in Jesus name!
@@OragansDAristilde_TheChristiandid you check what holy koolaid said about the gospels? Was he being deceptive or not? And if he was, how?
@@OragansDAristilde_TheChristian I just got a shiny ratatta and I think you should know that.
That’s exactly what I did the last 2 days lol
@@OragansDAristilde_TheChristianStatistically speaking it's very unlikely that you've actually read the bible.
I forget where exactly, Leviticus 20 I think, the bible says something like "there shall be the same law for all people", then just about all of Leviticus that comes after is detailing the various laws that apply differently to the in and out group, and exactly what the differences are.
Like how male Jewish slaves are only for 6 years while all others are for life.
Those would be laws inside The Law. The Law is for everyone, but, the laws that make up The Law are different for different law obeyers.
Yeah, but that there are different laws for different people applies to everyone, LOL
Judging by the way too many people (especially religious ones) think today the outsiders were probably not seen as people.
@@kellydalstok8900 Exactly. Its been a long time since I read the Bible, but I thought there was as story wherein the children that descended from the wives taken from foreign tribes were put to death. At minimum, I thought there was a great cleansing in this regard.
The Law is for people, but who are people? Just because you presently think of a group as people, doesn't mean they always have been.
@Timeshark, ironically that TOO is a discrepancy (male hebrew slaves) as a bit in Leviticus says you only need to let them go in a year of jubilee (that is every 50th year) ...
I have actually had apologists try to put Quirinius in Syria to force a census/oath of loyalty on the Jewish leaders even though Syria already had a governor and Roman records actually list him as assisting in putting down a revolt elsewhere in the empire at the same time. They claim that the actual governor was incompetent without any evidence of this and insist that the military records have to be erroneous because they contradict the Bible. This is literally how they reconcile Matthew and Luke having to occur at different times.
That's insane. There are at least three different ancient historians that all talk about Quirinius and agree with each other on the details (off the top of my head, I think it was Suetonius, and I know it was Josephus and Tacitus). Josephus is particularly detailed in his account. He literally was awarded a governing position (most likely as a legate) in Antioch Pisidia because of his success putting down the uprising. They even go into details about his personal life and divorce. But I guess apologists will do whatever they can to keep their blinders on.
@@HolyKoolaid I grew up in an evangelical baptist church that tried to claim that Luke's account actually occurred first and then Joseph was offered a job in Bethlehem and that is why Matthew has Jesus closer to two years old and the family living in a house.
InspiringPhilosophy says that since the bible doesn't say that Q was not a deputy under Herod, he must have been one, and so no contradiction.
@@HolyKoolaid Hey Koolaid....whats your take on people( Christians) using Josephus and Tacitus as evidence that Jesus was a real living person. Im told that they wrote about him. Can you please do a video on this?
@@maxwell9714 Here is some of what I've found on the matter (Josephus wise):
"About this time there lived Jesus, a wise man, if indeed one ought to call him a man. For he was one who performed surprising deeds and was a teacher of such people as accept the truth gladly. He won over many Jews and many of the Greeks. He was the Christ. And when, upon the accusation of the principal men among us, Pilate had condemned him to a cross, those who had first come to love him did not cease. He appeared to them spending a third day restored to life, for the prophets of God had foretold these things and a thousand other marvels about him. And the tribe of the Christians, so called after him, has still to this day not disappeared."
Flavius Josephus: Antiquities of the Jews, Book 18, Chapter 3
It's hard for me to believe that a Jew, a NON CHRISTIAN Jew who NEVER converted would have wrote that...
as for the other passage:
"And now Caesar, upon hearing the death of Festus, sent Albinus into Judea, as procurator. But the king deprived Joseph of the high priesthood, and bestowed the succession to that dignity on the son of Ananus, who was also himself called Ananus. Now the report goes that this eldest Ananus proved a most fortunate man; for he had five sons who had all performed the office of a high priest to God, and who had himself enjoyed that dignity a long time formerly, which had never happened to any other of our high priests. But this younger Ananus, who, as we have told you already, took the high priesthood, was a bold man in his temper, and very insolent; he was also of the sect of the Sadducees, who are very rigid in judging offenders, above all the rest of the Jews, as we have already observed; when, therefore, Ananus was of this disposition, he thought he had now a proper opportunity. Festus was now dead, and Albinus was but upon the road; so he assembled the sanhedrin of judges, and brought before them the brother of Jesus, who was called Christ, whose name was James, and some others; and when he had formed an accusation against them as breakers of the law, he delivered them to be stoned: but as for those who seemed the most equitable of the citizens, and such as were the most uneasy at the breach of the laws, they disliked what was done; they also sent to the king, desiring him to send to Ananus that he should act so no more, for that what he had already done was not to be justified; nay, some of them went also to meet Albinus, as he was upon his journey from Alexandria, and informed him that it was not lawful for Ananus to assemble a sanhedrin without his consent. Whereupon Albinus complied with what they said, and wrote in anger to Ananus, and threatened that he would bring him to punishment for what he had done; on which king Agrippa took the high priesthood from him, when he had ruled but three months, and made Jesus, the son of Damneus, high priest."
Flavius Josephus: Antiquities of the Jews Book 20, Chapter 9, 1\l "
The words "who was called the Christ," could easily have been edited in later. The use of the names Jesus and James do NOT necessarily refer to the BIblical Jesus or James as they were popular names in Judea. Indeed Josephus names another Jesus in this very passage, "Jesus, the son of Damneus, high priest", and without the Christ phrase the entire passage could just as easily refer to him.
As for Tacitus, there are similar problems, plus the fact that both were born AFTER the supposed Crucifixion and are therefore NOT eye witnesses. EVEN IF AUTHENTIC their words only repeat what they have heard from other sources, and there is sufficient doubt as to their authenticity.
Funny thing is that with ALL the Christian quotes of Josephus, where these passages could have been very useful, NONE quoted it until Eusebius c. 324 C.E., who admitted to modifying historical Documents for Church purposes. And those passages were not quoted again for a couple centuries after Eusebius indicating they probably weren't in the available copies until the 'official' (modified) Church copies were able to supplant them.
The first to cite the Testimonium is Eusebius (c. 324); and even after him, we may note, there are eleven Christian writers who cite Josephus but not the Testimonium. In fact, it is not until Jerome in the early fifth century that we have another reference to it [88]
Lataster, Raphael. there was no Jesus, there is no God (p. 57). . Kindle Edition.
It would seem highly unlikely that a historian, let alone a Jewish historian, would hint that Jesus was divine, that he was resurrected, and would call him “Christ”. Scholars see this passage as fraudulent, in whole,[ 85] or in part.[ 86] One reason is that early Christian theologian Origen, writing after Josephus, claimed that Josephus did not believe Jesus was the Christ.[ 87] Historians might also expect Origen to make use of this Josephus quotation, if it existed during his lifetime - it probably did not. Other early Christian apologists, such as Justin Martyr, also fail to quote this passage.
Lataster, Raphael. there was no Jesus, there is no God (p. 56). . Kindle Edition.
If this passage contains Christian forgeries to some extent, it might not be surprising if the whole passage was fraudulent. The precedent has already been set that the text was tampered with. Ehrman admits that the removal of the entire passage makes the surrounding text flow more smoothly and that the first person to quote it is Eusebius (a fourth-century Christian bishop).[ 89] This could be significant as Eusebius is well known as a defender of pious fraud (justifying lying for the Church)[ 90] and by his own words (Church History 8.2.3) exposes himself as a shoddy historian: “Hence we shall not mention those who were shaken by the persecution… But we shall introduce into this history in general only those events which may be useful first to ourselves and afterwards to posterity.”[ 91]
Lataster, Raphael. there was no Jesus, there is no God (p. 57). . Kindle Edition.
[85] Earl Doherty, Jesus: Neither God nor Man (Ottawa: Age of Reason Publications, 2009), p533.; Steve Mason, review of Josephus on Jesus: The Testimonium Flavianum Controversy from Late Antiquity to Modern Times, by Alice Whealey, Phoenix 58, no. 3/ 4 (2004): 383-386.; John G. Gager, "Scholarship as Moral Vision: David Flusser on Jesus, Paul, and the Birth of Christianity," The Jewish Quarterly Review 95, no. 1 (2005): 64.
[86] John P. Meier, A Marginal Jew: Rethinking the Historical Jesus, vol. 1 (New York: Doubleday, 1991), p56ff.
[87] Origen and Henry Chadwick, Contra Celsum: Translated with an Introduction & Notes by Henry Chadwick (Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1953), p43.
[88] Louis H. Feldman, "Josephus (C.E. 37- C. 100)," in The Cambridge History of Judaism: Volume Three, the Early Roman Period, ed. William Horbury, W. D. Davies, and John Sturdy, The Cambridge History of Judaism (Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1999), pp911-912.
[89] Bart D. Ehrman, Did Jesus Exist?: The Historical Argument for Jesus of Nazareth (New York: HarperOne, 2012), pp60-64.
[90] Eusebius and Edwin Hamilton Gifford, Preparation for the Gospel (Grand Rapids, MI: Baker Publishing Group, 1981), 12.31.
[91] Philip Schaff, ed. Eusebius: Church History, Life of Constantine the Great, Oration in Praise of Constantine (New York: Cosimo, 2007), p324.
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Further, the Roman Historian Seneca WAS alive during the supposed lifetime of Jesus, and he never mentioned him ONCE, despite the fact that he actually reported on something so trivial as a gladiator committing suicide by stuffing an anal cleaning sponge down his throat.
Philo of Alexandria was likewise silent.
1st contradiction is a scribe error in copying. The hebrew numbers for 8 and 18 were similar, and many ancient manuscripts include the correct age of 18 instead of 8 in 2 Chronicles. Just heard the first, but from what I am hearing so far, most if not all of the alleged contradictions are going to be argued from an english translation rather than looking at what the Bible was actually written in.
Exactly. Because textual criticism takes a lot of work which is why mistakes like this even happens.
How do you respond to the rest of the video?
I think a common misconception is that we believe in all the copies and translations inerrancy as well as the original documents. This is not the case, and we believe only in the inerrancy of the original manuscripts. This isn’t a catchall answer to the contradictions, but it’s definitely a call to look further into the matter instead of panicking and abandoning your faith because the TH-cam guy (no disrespect) told you the book doesn’t make sense.
@@lory3771 This doesn’t really challenge my faith, since I am not a fundamentalist, and I believe in a Church that is able to pronounce dogma and bind conscious to her teachings.
1:07 isn’t a contradiction, the earth being burned up does not mean it will perish to atoms, it just means the surface will burn, where do you think new Jerusalem will be?
U havent learned science.. Thts why u say it isnt a contradiction. Everything tht burned up, will always turned into ash. Why r u? 8?
@@ero74178953 Why do you type like that???
Watching ‘Christians’ deliberating over scripture is like watching geeks fight over Technology of a popular Sci Fi series - Meanwhile the homeless starve on the stairs of churches.
Just because people are starving and homeless does not mean that Christians should not talk about scripture and its complexities. You also failed to mention how many churches have soup kitchens and take in homeless people. It’s quite dishonest to imply churches lack charity.
People act all smug and thenen ignore the fact that the early Christians were so charitable the Roman government tried to duplicate what they were doing and failed. They took in children left to die of exposure, sold property to help the poor, educated women as well as men, brought rich and poor together and later began charities and some of the first universities.
@@Actualchristianity and actually churches are some of the biggest givers, name an orphanage started by atheist.
@@dwayneconaway1733 agreed.
The Christians I've encountered all had the attitude "if someone is poor, it's his/her own fault, and if a person doesn't have a job then - regardless of the reason - they don't deserve to have food" - and the bible verse that they cited was "and in the sweat of your face you will eat your bread" which they said means one either works or one should starve to death. The person who cited this most often was a Christadelphian woman who didn't work but had married for money. (Christadelphians are actually a cult but Christians all the same)
I hope she remembers that when she gets asked by her maker why she didn't work, and when she's old and infirm or disabled. She must be in her 60's now so that's not far off...
Even when I was someone of stronger faith, I always saw the four gospels as four biopics "based on actual events" - where "based on actual events" carries as much weight as any film adaptation nowadays. In other words, loose common deals that were thrown together and altered into a narrative and filled in with whatever the author thought was best for what they were aiming to write at the time.
And that's a best case scenario.
The contradictions between the gospels can be argued to show their authenticity. They were different accounts of events. If they had no contradictions or discrepancies it would possibly show collusion and editing to get the accounts straight. As the accounts are not parallel it is argued they are genuine and were written shortly after the events.
why doesn`t trinity had written in bible
You put so much info in these videos, and they're just so fun to watch, I always end up watching them a couple times. Thank you for the hard work you put into these!
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He should work harder and actually learn and read the original Greek and Hebrew instead of an English translation of a latin translation of the Hebrew and Greek writings. But then he'd understand there are no contradictions and have entirely different videos. And understand that men wrote the bible while being guided by God. They were not written directly by God.
@@MrLaughingcorpse The King James wasnt a translation from the catholic latin trasnlation, but I'm pretty sure the NIV was from the latin way longer down the pipeline.
Hillary, this not meant as a reply to you, but to everyone else who replied to you.
You guys do know that he was a hardcore, fundamentalist Christian believer, right? He probably knows the scriptures better than any of you. This is why I find him fascinating to listen to, he approaches the topics from an insider's, former believer's perspective.
@@amberhawke Ok? So am I. Just because he happens to be the one that stopped being one and is now on the opposite side, doesn't mean that he is more right than me or any other Christian.
You as an atheist are helping a muslim debunk christianity in 1 minute. Thank you very much
My 96 year old atheist father laughs when people start talking about religion. He has a master of science degree and knows( his words) a little bit about EVERYTHING. He doubts there’s a bearded old man sitting above the clouds waiting to judge him when he dies.
My dad stated “ The following of an organized religion and belief in a god is…a poor excuse for an immature mind”.
Sounds like he needs to grow up, at 96. So thankful I outgrew atheism.
Im sorry your father is going to hell, maybe at his death bed he might be humbled, and believe in Jesus Christ.
Your "96 year old atheist Father" Really does need to grow up, by now he should have gotten all that childish foolishness out of his system. One way or another he and you will bow before CHRIST THE RISEN MESSIAH WHO IS YAY AND AMEN.
"He doubts there’s a bearded old man sitting above the clouds waiting to judge him when he dies."
Good for him. No Christian believes any such nonsense either. Only atheists spout off that bullshit.
Three years after my fall from doctrine, I was talking with an aunt of mine and she told me her belief was that the book aka babble (she is where I get that from) was originally a set of stories or parables to teach the proper way to live life with out fear of death with out meaning. I asked her then it was not a religion doctrine but an education doctrine? She said no and yes. then told me to find books in the library about the contradiction of the babble. Couple years later after finding and reading what there was about this, I came home from school and was introduced to the 'new father' of the church I was physically tossed from, who told me that I was seen reading the babble and that he was pleased to hear this. I said not really reading it but cataloging the failures, lies and contradictions so I was aware of the miss conceptions' and down right lies about Reality. I was almost tossed out of the house at that point. Several months later I went into the US Navy, where I listed my religion and None. These presentations you and other make, are among the best confirmation of the reason I to this day believe my aunt was correct. Peace
Just found your channel. I love it. When I was a fairly young and precocious child, I’d get really bored in church. Since I couldn’t sit still, my mother would give me her King James Bible to read because I love beautiful language. I always had a little pad to mark pages I didn’t understand the words on for later explanation. I started in the Old Testament and worked my way through over time. By the time I was a young teen I started noticing a lot of contradictions which my mother couldn’t answer and would send me to the minister, whose answer was always “That’s where faith comes in” or “I’m not familiar with that, I’ll have to look it up and get back to you.” Which, of course, he never did.
When I was 15 I challenged him that somehow I knew more about the Bible than he did. You should have seen his face! I had a King James filled with notes and references to other verses that contradicted each other. I think a main issue is that most Christians never actually read the whole thing. Not even complete books of the Bible. My mother was an extremely intelligent, Ivy League educated person. But she just swallowed it all hook, line, and sinker. She was furious that I could play sheep like my sisters. Finally my dad made her leave me alone and I never went into a church again except when one of my sisters was singing a solo in the choir. Never again. I’m 61 now. People just hear what they want to hear.
We were raised C of E (Anglican) and went to Sunday School for a while. As a child I was told Cain killed Abel then left and got married. I asked where'd his wife come from. Answer? There were muliple Adam & Eve's! Catholic Dad was forced to church every Sunday by his Mum until he married. Mum christened us C of E to spite her. Nan went to church every week for life. Turns out she wasn't married to grandad but had 4 children as his wife wouldn't grant a divorce! Only came out because she took an Aunt to court to stop her marrying at 16 when she got herself pregnant to marry my Uncle. Nan used her Catholicism in the case, sooooo. My Aunt's still married to my Uncle today. Dad died in a car accident at 33 at about midnight. Priest wouldn't give him last rites at 5.00am when he was found, he'd been dead too long was the reason given. My Mum never forgave the Catholics for that, so woe to any who knocked on our door. We didn't church much after that for obvious reasons. I'm 58. I think I'm agnostic. I can't believe the Bible but I'm unsure if there's a something or not.
@@tkps I’m so sorry your dad died so young. My dad was 55 when he died and that was hard enough. They can’t give last rights after you’re dead, unless it’s quickly. It’s horrible for the families who believe their loved one can’t get into heaven without them. I don’t blame your mum. It’s strange how Christians feel like it’s ok to do whatever they want while trying to force their beliefs on others. At the time tho, she wouldn’t have been allowed to marry your grandfather anyway because you couldn’t marry a divorced person who didn’t also somehow obtain an annulment. She’d have been excommunicated. I wonder if she’d have found that acceptable.
I’m lucky. My family is Italian American and while most of them are Catholic, most of them seemed to be pretty liberal in their attitudes… until Trump made it ok to be as racist and hateful as you want. I’m not in contact with anyone but my last remaining aunt. She’s a normal, progressive woman. She’s 80 now, I think.
My mom was an atheist, but made me go to church, just so I'd understand what so many people in society "believe".
At 10 years of age, she said I could stop going to church if I wanted to.
Being in the South at the time, Key West Florida, you KNOW there were many other churches around.
I decided to see what other churches taught...I went to The First blah blah blah of This and the Second blah blah blah of that...and many others
I found they all taught..."We are the one true way...and all the others are false..." (or words with the same theme)
I'm 56, and happy as an atheist.
My ex-wife, Taiwanese, was Buddhist....and I went to temple with her when she decided we'd go.
After my divorce, I had a girlfriend who taught Sunday School and sang for her church during service. I attended every week and any church function.
Early on, I promised her I'd support her belief, but it would be unwise for her to open religious topics.
Everyone in the church knew I was an atheist and none tried to "save me". And I made a promise to the pastor...."if any of the kids approach me and ask me about God, I'll point them in the direction of a Church Elder....as a guest in his "house" I'd not go against what he taught while IN his house. We were happy for three years........we handled her breast cancer surgery together...and she broke our engagement on the breast cancer returning.....nothing I said, the Elders said, the pastor said... mattered....she ended us.
It was a very nice first 2 years, a hard next 6 months...a return to "very nice"....then.....3 months of hell then...done.
I think religion is more of a coping mechanism and also ppl believe because they are afraid of not existing after death.
This is not a True Story.
Wow! And every single one has been answered by the church!
Fr this is a pretty dumb video
Nailed it with another set of tools and perspectives. Great work!!
Thanks! :)
Love the ad hoc hoops they jump through in order to dodge some of these contradictions... meanwhile, most of them are simply transcription/translation errors. But they can't admit that, because the bible needs to be perfect.
Even in Star Trek they had a transcorder that could translate any language. Why couldn’t an all knowing god create a universal language that would be understood by all.
The Bible states in one place there are many languages but later says there was only one. I’ll edit this with quotes later.
Well done. You're doing God's work. Keep it up.
For an enerrant, divinely inspired, perfect text that a supposedly all knowing and all powerful God had written by specific people there sure are a lot of contradictions and errors...
Multiverse explains it. Different events in different realities, then the realities merged. No contradictions 😉👍
Yup! In one universe Scarleth With gets to fight against David and wins the throne lol 😂
I fell in love with my relative and in another universe, i found that she is my sister. I think i just debunked lol athiests like myself .
john 10:27.
@Francesco I was joking, but hey, anything is possible with a quantum theory
THANK YOU! I've been looking for a video that goes through some of these contradictions *fairly*. I've had the same problem with some of the lazy atheists and Christians alike for not doing their homework. I almost made a TH-cam channel... now I'm just going to recommend yours.
I would recommend checking out Christian responses to each of these contradictions as well.
@@bennettw8666 and I recommend to not bother. I never got a sufficient answer from a Christian.
But I guess that's the way it is. Some bearded dudes smashed some loosely connected text written during a time period of about a millennium together. Without a hellofa good editor, you get the mess that's the Bible. 😂🤷🏾♀️
@@bennettw8666 Already have. Just not very good, unfortunately.
@@bennettw8666 Most Christians are Passive and dishonest and don't know the difference of slaving and killing their own kind. they also don't know if it is satan helping them because satan and God do the same works in scripture except it or not and ASK JESUS to set your mind straight but his power to do that only comes from senseless ignorance doesn't even know half the Book they read. this is so foul its beyond any ability to ask the Jesus who truly never answered but by an experienced person who only knows the parts of scripture it read and gives it out for their answer. We never will and never had free will. free will would have burned everyone alive by hitler if we didn't finally Stop him. Say this to 6 million Jews polish or mentally ill or Week sick people that. Hitler burned and planned on burning at least 300 million or more if he could have. today God still ignores us and we will never know if this human life exist for 1000 more years as the promises were said and became false when he said you might even still be alive when i come. Jesus was talking about his Deciples when i come some of you might be alive.
@@fornamnefternamn1532 Welcome to ancient literature
The main thing that tripped me up about Christianity in particular is how many different kinds of churches there are. They are all reading from the same book and yet coming out sometimes with explicitly contrary views. So at least some of them get it wrong, if some of them get it wrong then there is a possibility that all of them get it wrong.
And that led me to do more research on the topic in general.
Thankfully my parents never forced me to do anything religious as a kid.
You're wrong.
If a Christian said something so wrong and stupid you would jump on it.
@@TexterEX
Person 1: "Lol wrong"
Person 2: "Lol wrong"
Person 1: "Lol wrong"
Person 2: "Lol wrong"
See this is why you need to at minimum say which part you think is wrong and why you think that is, otherwise its an entirely useless conversation.
I was shocked as a young Christian (1984, age 23, Christian for 2 years) to read in the notes of a Catholic translation that the writers of Chronicles were prone to exaggeration. This BIBLE gave a couple examples, including Solomon having 4,000 horses (chariots?) in his stable while Chronicles says 40,000. I am so glad I engaged that subject then because I have read the Bible copiously and also quickly enough to notice the contradictions. Since my faith is based on my relationship with Jesus, which has been real and robust in my experience, I am not fazed by the contradictions. The goal of inspiration is love and obedience, not historical accuracy, but it would be nice if Christians could be honest about the failures of the Bible historically and scientifically.
Yeah it was utterly the norm in ancient royal literature to exaggerate.
So from HK's descriptions of the birth accounts at 5:12, Matthew has the family fleeing from Herod while Luke simultaneously has Joseph and family travelling to Jerusalem for the purification and having the fugitive child's presence being "shouted to everyone".
But just a short while later, we learn that the Magi's visit (which precedes the flight to Egypt) happens when Jesus was around two years old - long after the prophecies in Jerusalem.
So assuming the Magi visited Jerusalem not long before then, Herod was not on the lookout for baby kings until long after they were in Jererusalem for the purification.
If we take both HK's accounts at face value, there is an obvious contradiction in what HK is saying about the timing of the Magi.
The worst part about these things is that people who believe in the book believe in it regardless of evidence
Or lack of evidence
@@HamSamich99 You clearly do not believe in the bible, you apply baseless belief in the bible. What he means is that the inaccuracies in the bible should destroy your faith, even though you should clearly be able to stop believing in the bible. You don't need a book to believe in god. Even in your text you write that you think god forgives even those who do not believe in him. This is in stark contrast to the biblical writings, where if you do not believe, you go to hell.
So while you should remain in strong belief that you are being watched and cared for by a god, you should probably question your lige choices if you think your morals are from the bible, which they evidently are not.
Christianity makes sense of the world around us. It’s accurate story of reality In other words, it presents the most correct worldview based on the world in which we live. There are three worldviews that lie at the foundation
The Bible proves itself to be true because it is a historically accurate document. Thousands of archaeological discoveries confirm its historical accuracy. Numerous civilizations, rulers, and events once thought legendary by the skeptics have been confirmed by archaeology
The Bible is, in fact, the most-studied and fact-checked book of history. And there is not one instance where the Bible has been proven wrong about a place, event, or people group it described . And even it’s rewritten , it still don’t contradict itself. Still has the same meaning . It’s changed to make it much easier and better to understand
@@HamSamich99 I NOTICED CHRISTIANS LIKE I MY SELF. ALL WAY'S late to try and prove honestly nothing but blindness.
@@HamSamich99 Sillier than just leaving it be. You probably gave this at any given moment. Makes the book even weaker.
I like the writings of Marcus Aurelius entitled "meditions". He taught me how to separate myself emotionally from events around me and think more rationally. Humanities love of holy books and the obsessions people have over them is one of things not to get too worked up about. A practical and useful skill even today.
My favourite book
I'd take Marcus with a grain of salt. After all, he supported subjugation of foreign peoples.
I find Transactional Analysis quite useful, particularly in combination with a minimalist zen-type meditation. A simple Parent / Adult / Child model of the influences on us growing up, which can be pursued to depth.
@@bartbannister394 No point in applying today's standards to an ancient world. Standards weren't very high and it often takes two to dance. Alot of things didn't come to an end with the fall of Rome.
Marcus Arelius worshipped and promoted gods and says so through out his book.
Confucius on the other hand did not.
"The topics the Master did not speak of were prodigies, force,disorder and gods" -The Analects pg.88 book 7 , 21.
"May I ask about death?'
'You do not understand even life. How can you understand death?' Pg.107 book 11, 12.
It's astounding the mental gymnastics the true believers will go through in order to believe the absurd. Humans are ridiculously gullible.
Yes...so many humans primitively defend their incomplete/inaccurate current belief system instead of embracing their human imperfection and the infinite (both of which, and more, are by God's amazing design).
It's not about the explanation of the contradiction. A contradiction may have a very sound, reasonable explanation. That does NOT mean IT IS NOT A CONTRADICTION.
This is not about pointing out mistakes in the bible as a sort of "gotcha!"
It is about biblical inerrancy. They idea that the bible is infallibility is in question with every contradictions.
To be without error would mean there could be no argument made whatsoever.
Well, let's be fair, god doesn't make mistakes; he _is_ the mistake.
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*Sigh*
I suppose it's rude... but I think he would have been better off if his parents knew of condoms and used them. :(
I would love to see excerpts of this placed into a chronological reckoning of the life of Jesus in the Bible, pointing out all contradictions, in its entirety.
Brilliant video, but left me wanting another hour or two.
Jesus would need technology as in the movies Multiplicity or Time Cop....to do all he supposedly did or be where he supposedly was at different sections of the Wholly Babble
Check out a book called "The Age of Reason" written by Thomas Paine. If you want to see a comprehensive list of contradictions in the Bible, this book will provide you so much knowledge on the subject that you won't have many questions left unanswered. This comes from a "born again" agnostic atheist 🤣
@@ohitsthatguy1328 I'm familiar actually, though I appreciate the suggestion. Would still entertain this proposed video, as this one was quite entertaining.
Last word
torturing children with cancer seems quite UNLIKE the action of a good AND almighty space wizard.
whenever a god concepts is said to be good AND almighty, we need only 1 tragic event in our entire history to debunk said god concept. bible flaws are just cherries on the cake of insanity (religion)
The same contradictions in the judaeo Christian Bible are the same ones in the Quran and all the other holy books
There are no contradictions in the Quran.
@@thandongobese5087 You have got to be kidding me. There is literally a whole principle that Mohammed had to invent about halfway through to explain his previous contradictions, much of which was caused by his own inability to follow the rules and needing a loophole or special exception.
@@DavidSmith-vr1nb Abrogation is not a contradiction, it is a principle which has always existed in Abrahamic tradition because God's laws and instructions are not static
Whatever issues one may have with the Quran, contradictions shouldn't be one of them if you are honest and objective. The Quran openly invites anyone to disprove it by finding contradictions and no one has been able to definitively do so yet.
I used to look up "contradictions" in the Quran for fun. Reason being they are so ludicrously bad that reading them in context is usually all a person has to do to dismiss them.
It gives a lot of confidence that Islam is correct. Because any other book of any age should be filled with obvious mistakes from the authors world view. An objective reader shouldn't use those mistakes to distract from the message the book is trying to teach. Something that was understood very well by the church fathers and apparently not at all by certain groups of modern Christians and atheists.