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- But it wasn't so long ago that she placed great significance on "skin discolorations" and Dr Shoo Lee's 1989 paper.
Sources:
The Trial of Lucy Letby: The Inside Story
• 'Killer hiding in plai...
Dr Shoo Lee's press conference
• Lucy Letby's innocence...
Daily Mail podcast The Trial of Lucy Letby: The Inquiry
• Lucy Letby - 25: The I...
Dr Neena Modi interview
www.abc.net.au...
Ravi Jayaram, was rash in conspiring with Brearey to pin their incompetency on Lucy.
Rash 😂😂😂😂 nice one Ginny
Even when Lucy's convictions are quashed ,people like Cheetham and Hull will never admit they are or even might be wrong. They lie, mislead and deliberately omit facts. Why? For what purpose? They would gain far more respect if they admitted they had some doubt.
Cheers Jabe for your wonderful work.
They are demons or full of demons
Agreed!
They can't do that because of libel and defamation laws. I argued everyone to push for a lawsuit against them.
Award winning Liz is going to have a meltdown when this is all done.
Yes, and a legal action against her. I heard that Carl is thinking of a private prosecution against Evans.
This is what a "journalist" never wants to happen to them, yet Hull had countless warnings and efforts to help her. She would not listen and we can see now that her credibility and respect will be exactly where we told her it would be. Sad.
OMG Liz Hull was actually there & witnessed every single attack!
She should have been ⭐ witness along with hero’s Brearey, Jayaram & Evans!
Liz Hull like all those Lucy haters just won't give up- they are blinded by their ignorance and biases- I feel a bit sorry for her. However I feel far more sorry for an innocent nurse in jail for crimes she did not commit!!!
FREE LUCY LETBY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Carole Malone announced after this press conference that Lucy Letby wasn’t convicted on medical evidence?
Same response as when statistics were found to be wrong!
Why are these people so invested in LLs guilt?
To the point of looking unhinged?✊❤️
So ... I can either listen to 14 world renowned neonatologists, 11 of them professors with thousands of published papers between them ... or I can listen to Liz Hull. It's a tough call !
Omg she must want to crawl into a hole forever
Well said
LL will never be released.
Of course! What else do you want?!
I have encouraged everyone to look at the possibility of a lawsuit against these two reporters as they have accused Dr Lee of changing his paper implying he did it for some nefarious reasons.
@@pippipster6767that's not true.
If your newborn was sick would you go to Liz Hull or Shoo Lee?
Exactly!
Dr. Shoo Lee has made a nice takeaway of all lies in the noodles.
@ an ignorant and racist comment that should be removed
@@williamhallett327 I agree.
Liz Hull makes me sick
A first class idiot !!
So let me understand this correctly, Liz Hull argues that the "experts" in Alder Hey concluded that the blood clot problem that the mother had, could not be passed to the baby via the placenta, so the 14 experts must be wrong, no matter all the other problems that this mother and baby were having of suboptimal care, it had to be air embolism instigated by Lucy that proved fatal - did I get that right?
Yep. Think so! Ridiculous isn't it.
X rays post mortem are not normally as putrefaction takes place immediately in 89.9% of cases!
Expert Sally Kinsey said the mother of A and B did not pass on antiphospholipid ( autoimmune disease). However this contradicted medical notes.
She said that if the disease had been passed on then it could cause real problems.
It could be strongly argued that she gave evidence that was well out of her field particularly agreeing with the air embolus which she had never seen in all her years of practice.
To be fair to Myers, he argued ferociously that maybe she was wrong.
Of course the jury believed the expert. Why wouldn't they?
I overstand that's what they are saying! Unbelievably 🚦
The (so-called📱 📰 Expert! 🔥
I was listening to Carl earlier and he was talking about a private prosecution against Dr Lee Evans. I do agre very strongly and I have already stated in other videos and channels that everyone who is incolved in this case must face serious legal consequences. The public shouldn't let them get away with this and there has to be a serious discussion about a complete overhaul of the justice system which won't happen on its own.
Lee Evans?
@Ette397 yes but not only him. Others too including certain owners of YT channels.
Brearey and Jayaram could turn round and admit Lucy is innocent and these two would carry on with the narrative!
They need prosecuted
There is increasing talk about the option of a Royal pardon. As someone not from the UK, is this a legal avenue available to Lucy's team? My concern is, like many, that the wheels of justice will drag out year after year while Lucy remains incarcerated.
A Royal pardon would not restore her good name and neither would it reveal those responsible for taking it from her.
I've never heard of anyone getting a Royal pardon. Although I'm sure it's technically possible they probably wouldn't want to intervene in justice procedures.
There was never a case to answer LUCY LETBY Should be released immediately and then start investigation of those that gave false evidence I did read that when the case first went to the police they were told they did not have a case Can any one clarify that
Thanks Jabe - fools step in where angels fear to tread. Those 2 need a sabbatical!
Thanks for your work. Always enlightening.
The hubris of Liz Hull! Thanks for this video which gives us a glimpse of what it would like like if Liz Hull actually dared to challenge this world leading expert with him in the same room instead of her sidekick nodding along
There is a very good article in the 'conversation' on the flaws of the statistical 'evidence' presented by the prosecution.
Here is the title
"Experts have challenged the medical case against Lucy Letby. What about the statistical evidence?"
Is written by Dr Christian Yates from the University of Bath. He is a senior lecturer in Mathematical Biology
It takes three times to inject air in one baby and how many times for the others
You can not tell me that consultants do not recognise septic migrating colour change but then maybe so after all they don’t know their left from right or human anatomy- so maybe
It’s also typically normal to document everything Jayaram wether you consider it important or not
What authority does Ms hull have to say world renowned neonatologists got it wrong !!!!!
The panel report is not just an alternative opinion, or even just a more qualified opinion, it is a more qualified opinion than you could get anywhere.
It carries more weight than Liz Hull's pedestrian objections
The Dream Team, as Shoo called it.
It is unfortunate that there will always be witchfinders who will insist Lucy is guilty but they're irrelevant now.
Why did the police not demand the drawer of doom contents
‘The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing. The unexamined life is not worth living. There is only one good, knowledge, and one evil, ignorance.’ Socrates. I think I would bet on Dr Shoo Lee and his team.
Plebs
Liz Hull's credibility has now sunk to a depth similar to that of the hull on the Titanic.
You could say (puts on glasses) her Hull has been breached.
@Relugus Exactly!
Post mortem evidence is not normally except-able regarding gases in the body, as putrefaction can cause this in 89.9% of cases.
Who the F is Liz hull and what qualifications does she have to contradict 14 highly qualified neonatal specialists working in top hospitals on the world??
If she has nothing medicine to offer why are you even giving her air time??
Why doesn't Liz Hull just shut up, Lucy is innocent. At least Judith Moritz has the decency to shut up
Another great video - well done!
Liz hull 😂 she’s clueless!
She’s completely out of her depth and is trying her hardest to keep up with the lies. FOOL
Liza Hull is just totally ignorant of facts!
Id Luz Hulll a specialist doctor?
Sounds like an infection to me.
The rash that was never recorded you mean?
There were medical notes of skin discolorations, mostly by nurses, but no one ever recorded it as being flitting, or appearing and disappearing. As far as I can tell it was only Jayaram who described it that way when testifying for a few of the babies. But then somehow it became the official media narrative.
Never liked how they reported. Subpar journos
Who is Liz Hull?
Some third class daily mail journalist
She's a Daily Mail journalist who along with Caroline Cheetham presented an "award-winning" podcast both during and since Lucy Letby's trial. She's also written articles criticising people sceptical of the verdicts.
Lucy letby is innocent. Xx
Yes I believe it was brearey or jayaram who punctured the liver of baby O in an attempt to draw air instead blood was drawn that baby went in to shock and died why was Lucy charged with that death
Who is this Liz person ?
I recon that Liz Hull does not have a clue about the case She might be able to read and right but she has not got an analytical brain She should keep her big mouth shut
Thanks Jabe 🙏
Hi Jabe! Take a look at the most recent video from a channel that i have been viewing for sometime. It doesn't let me use the link
It's an interesting one from the channel Art of Law. My comments have been well received just like in most cases in various channels and even though i dont agree with the procedural obstacles the owner of the channel does make some good points.
I remember him arguing that LL is guilty in the past and I think he is revising his position. I found another channel too where another guy admits he was wrong about the case.
Thanks, yes I've seen it but didn't make it to the end as I'm not that interested in legal technicalities!
If the journalism doesn’t pan out, there’s always the NHS… sheer management potential 👌🏻
When was this interview done?
A few days ago on Friday 7th Feb. I've just now added links in the description to the original sources.
@JabesAllowed thankyou.
It's a contradiction to say that the rash was well known among physicians but that Dr Jayaram had to research it to find out what it was. Clearly it wasn't well known and, as it turns out, it was misunderstood. As Dr Lee pointed out, air embolism is rare on the venous side since any air is typically removed as it passes through the lungs. Arterial air is least likely and more serious owing to the pressure of the blood; there were no cases reported in the 1989 paper read by Dr Jayaram. Clearly Dr Jayaram was not familiar with the symptoms of air embolism and, like many of us, read something and misunderstood it. It turns out that Dr Evans did the same. According to Dr Lee, air embolism is so rare that hardly anyone has seen it. So, as far as Dr Jayaram is concerned, his diagnosis is a bit like looking up in the night sky and seeing a moving light and believing its a UFO when in fact it's just an aeroplane. He had no experience of the symptoms and he mis-diagnosed what he and others saw. Unfortunately his mis-diagnosis infected all the other doctors and lawyers he came into contact with. I believe Dr Evans said he came to the same conclusion independently. It seems unlikely given that Dr Brearey and Dr Jayaram had spoken to the police and the police were contacted by Dr Evans - who was then given the information passed on to them by Brearey and Jayaram. It's likely this misconception started to spread like a virus, infecting everyone's objective assessments.
Horrible suspicion of air embolism.
What do you hope to achieve by putting this video out?
Help in getting the message out.
Hi Jabe! New channel
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