some say all solid walls that are Perpendicular to the rafters/trusses are load bearing, whether they were designed to be or not, because of the structure settling over time, is this the case please?
SO I went to the basement and I have beams running | | | | | and the wall I wanna take down above runs like "|" not like "---"...I should be good right?
I just bought a house, and the wall separating the bathroom and second bedroom had a large crack down it. I took a little plaster off and found it was blocks, further investigation I found the whole wall was blocks and lay straight onto floorboards, I don't think it's load baring, can't be good to have a wall lay onto wooden floor, under the bathroom is the dining room, its a nice size room too.
Common in old houses to have brick or block walls on upper floors. Correct not good. They should have doubled joists under the wall. It won’t be load bearing and it has no support. Good luck
is it always this simple or can there be exceptions i have a wall downstairs between my kitchen and dinning room the joists run the same way as the wall and the wall runs from the front of the house to the back but the first half whitch is the wall in the lounge goes from floor all the way to the attic but the half i want to remove only goes to the dining room ceiling and its the only wall in the house that stops at the ceiling and doesnt go up to the attic so i would say its not a load bearing wall but wondered if there was any exceptions also the house was built in 1935
We are just about to exchange on our sale of house and our buyer has asked for a report to say our kitchen / diner wall removed by previous owners had left the property structurally sound , there was no certificate obtained when work was done 17 years ago although we know the builder who did the work and he has confirmed the wall was not load bearing and he installed a steel anyway as likes to be thorough , do you envisage any problems coming back from report ? Property is mid terrace
Hi Thanks for your message. I think that your builder installed a beam (that wasn’t needed) will prompt the question - is the steel beam the correct size! To enable the sale to proceed you may want to engage a Structural Engineer to provide a report. From what you say, it seems it will be positive. And it will facilitate the sale. Good luck.
@@mikewoodspropertychannel yes we have agreed for a report to be done by a structural engineer at our own cost as a good will gesture , I was just a little stressed at hearing this at such a late stage in enquiries , the buyer is an investor and suspect this is needed for insurance purposes, Is the work needed for report very invasive as the beam is finished with a plastered bulkhead ?
@@Thevoiceofreason84 I would do whatever to get the sale. It may well be the purchasers surveyor! If they can determine the beam isn’t load bearing, then they may not need to open up to check the size of the beam.
@@mikewoodspropertychannel thank you for taking the time to reply fingers crossed no issues , from the few opinions I’ve had on the matter most agreed should be fine 🤞
You can knock through, you will need to instal a lintel or an RSJ depending on the size of the opening. Speak to Building Control or a Structural Engineer
The two walls are probably load bearing. As the wall running parallel. Is supporting the stair stringers. So I would speak to a structural engineer before remove that wall
Thanks. But in this case the stairs was parallel to the wall that extended to the rear wall. The stair was trimmed onto that wall, not the front section.
Really useful. What about the landing (above the staircase) joists? Does that rest on anything? I’ve got a similar middle structural wall but it isn’t clear what the landing joists rest on to.
I have a three storey house. I want to remove a wall on the middle floor. The joists above and below run in different directions. It seems to be supporting the joists above but the wall doesn’t continue down to the ground floor and appears to be built on top of the floor boards? Is this likely to be load bearing?
Hello Keith Very common for the first floor wall not to be directly above the ground floor. Often a 150-200mm off set. If the joists at FF are sitting on the Ground floor wall. Then that wall is load bearing. If the joists to top floor are not sitting on middle wall. Then is presume that wall is not load bearing. Draw a sketch of each floor on graph paper, use 1 square as 1 metre. Check the directions of the joists as I suggest and draw the wall that they sit on ‘thicker’. You may find you get a better picture of what walls are then load bearing. Hope that helps.
Thanks Joshua, same really lift the floor coverings and note the direction of the floor boards, in turn this will determine the direction of the joists. In a domestic setting in the UK, joists tend not to span more that 4 -4.5 metres (12-15ft). So, if the room is this size and you have determined the direction of the joist...the wall at the end- will probably be load bearing. Hope that makes sense.
@@mikewoodspropertychannel - really appreciate you getting back to us Mike, must take a while to get back to everyone! In high rises, floorboards tend to not exist as much as block and beams or steels are present
What if the joists don’t have a join in them? So the joist looks like it’s running from one end of the house to the other? Would the wall underneath then be a load bearing wall?
@@mikewoodspropertychannel we have just had the wall knocked out and been told by the builders that it isn’t load bearing? This is why I was asking because I can’t understand how the joists will hold everything above now the wall is gone?
@@samanthamealing7337 strange! If the joist are being supported by a wall and you remove the wall, they lose their support. It could be that the single joist is sufficient size wise enough to span from end to end. As long as you had Building Control to oversee and they approved it. Then happy days.
It can depend on the size of the joist and age of the building. Different size jousts can span different lengths. To check go to Trada joist sizes online. This will give tables of joist sizes and the spans. Of course if you’re in the UK, is Building Control involved??
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so basicly we have to open up the property to discover?
I'm not sure if this is a joke or not. He's saying that if your joists run over your wall (rather than in the same direction as it) the wall is supporting those joists.
Others have made this question into several minute videos. Thanks for the pure and simple facts 👍
Thank you for you comments. You’re welcome.
what if the floor is concrete? and ceiling is concrete?
Thanks for the advice, much needed cans appreciated.
And not cans 🤪
Wonderful video. Thanks a lot!
Great stuff mate, always look at the run of the joists above like you say 👍
Thank you Royston
Useful video cheers
some say all solid walls that are Perpendicular to the rafters/trusses are load bearing, whether they were designed to be or not, because of the structure settling over time, is this the case please?
Hi difficult to say to be honest. I’m this video, I’m explaining the easiest way to determine by way of noting floor joist bearing directly on a wall.
SO I went to the basement and I have beams running | | | | | and the wall I wanna take down above runs like "|" not like "---"...I should be good right?
Thanks. If the wall is running in the same direction as joists, then they are not resting/being supported by the wall.
I just bought a house, and the wall separating the bathroom and second bedroom had a large crack down it. I took a little plaster off and found it was blocks, further investigation I found the whole wall was blocks and lay straight onto floorboards, I don't think it's load baring, can't be good to have a wall lay onto wooden floor, under the bathroom is the dining room, its a nice size room too.
Common in old houses to have brick or block walls on upper floors. Correct not good. They should have doubled joists under the wall. It won’t be load bearing and it has no support. Good luck
Helpful thank you 🎉
Welcome.
is it always this simple or can there be exceptions i have a wall downstairs between my kitchen and dinning room the joists run the same way as the wall and the wall runs from the front of the house to the back but the first half whitch is the wall in the lounge goes from floor all the way to the attic but the half i want to remove only goes to the dining room ceiling and its the only wall in the house that stops at the ceiling and doesnt go up to the attic so i would say its not a load bearing wall but wondered if there was any exceptions also the house was built in 1935
If a wall has a similar wall directly above, then the wall below is carrying the load of the wall above.
We are just about to exchange on our sale of house and our buyer has asked for a report to say our kitchen / diner wall removed by previous owners had left the property structurally sound , there was no certificate obtained when work was done 17 years ago although we know the builder who did the work and he has confirmed the wall was not load bearing and he installed a steel anyway as likes to be thorough , do you envisage any problems coming back from report ?
Property is mid terrace
Hi Thanks for your message. I think that your builder installed a beam (that wasn’t needed) will prompt the question - is the steel beam the correct size! To enable the sale to proceed you may want to engage a Structural Engineer to provide a report. From what you say, it seems it will be positive. And it will facilitate the sale. Good luck.
@@mikewoodspropertychannel yes we have agreed for a report to be done by a structural engineer at our own cost as a good will gesture , I was just a little stressed at hearing this at such a late stage in enquiries , the buyer is an investor and suspect this is needed for insurance purposes, Is the work needed for report very invasive as the beam is finished with a plastered bulkhead ?
@@Thevoiceofreason84 I would do whatever to get the sale. It may well be the purchasers surveyor! If they can determine the beam isn’t load bearing, then they may not need to open up to check the size of the beam.
@@mikewoodspropertychannel thank you for taking the time to reply fingers crossed no issues , from the few opinions I’ve had on the matter most agreed should be fine 🤞
@@Thevoiceofreason84 you’re very welcome. Happy to help
Yeh this is literally my house... thank you.
I won't be knocking it through then.
You’re very welcome
You can knock through, you will need to instal a lintel or an RSJ depending on the size of the opening. Speak to Building Control or a Structural Engineer
The two walls are probably load bearing. As the wall running parallel. Is supporting the stair stringers. So I would speak to a structural engineer before remove that wall
Thanks. But in this case the stairs was parallel to the wall that extended to the rear wall. The stair was trimmed onto that wall, not the front section.
Thanks for taking the time to explain this. Very helpful.
You’re welcome
Nice video ,well explained ,when you get chance show everything is measured ,how accro props are installer and then RSJ the whole procedure
Thanks
This is great, looking to make a small kitchen into a kitchen diner in my new place and this means I get to save a lot of money 👍
Awesome. Really pleased to know it helps.
Really useful. What about the landing (above the staircase) joists? Does that rest on anything? I’ve got a similar middle structural wall but it isn’t clear what the landing joists rest on to.
Thanks. In this case the landing bears on the wall below. But is often ‘trimmed’ off double joists. You should lift the boards and check.
This is exactly what I needed! Thank you for the video!!
Perfect. Pleased to help.
I have a three storey house. I want to remove a wall on the middle floor. The joists above and below run in different directions. It seems to be supporting the joists above but the wall doesn’t continue down to the ground floor and appears to be built on top of the floor boards? Is this likely to be load bearing?
Hello Keith
Very common for the first floor wall not to be directly above the ground floor. Often a 150-200mm off set. If the joists at FF are sitting on the Ground floor wall. Then that wall is load bearing. If the joists to top floor are not sitting on middle wall. Then is presume that wall is not load bearing. Draw a sketch of each floor on graph paper, use 1 square as 1 metre. Check the directions of the joists as I suggest and draw the wall that they sit on ‘thicker’. You may find you get a better picture of what walls are then load bearing.
Hope that helps.
v good explanation--cheers
Thanks 🙏
Wondering how you determine so in a flat, multiple rise? 🤔 thanks for great video
Thanks Joshua, same really lift the floor coverings and note the direction of the floor boards, in turn this will determine the direction of the joists. In a domestic setting in the UK, joists tend not to span more that 4 -4.5 metres (12-15ft). So, if the room is this size and you have determined the direction of the joist...the wall at the end- will probably be load bearing. Hope that makes sense.
@@mikewoodspropertychannel - really appreciate you getting back to us Mike, must take a while to get back to everyone! In high rises, floorboards tend to not exist as much as block and beams or steels are present
What if the joists don’t have a join in them? So the joist looks like it’s running from one end of the house to the other? Would the wall underneath then be a load bearing wall?
Correct Samantha, if the joist are sitting on the wall, they are being supported.
@@mikewoodspropertychannel we have just had the wall knocked out and been told by the builders that it isn’t load bearing? This is why I was asking because I can’t understand how the joists will hold everything above now the wall is gone?
@@samanthamealing7337 strange! If the joist are being supported by a wall and you remove the wall, they lose their support. It could be that the single joist is sufficient size wise enough to span from end to end. As long as you had Building Control to oversee and they approved it. Then happy days.
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It can depend on the size of the joist and age of the building. Different size jousts can span different lengths. To check go to Trada joist sizes online. This will give tables of joist sizes and the spans. Of course if you’re in the UK, is Building Control involved??
so basicly we have to open up the property to discover?
No Andre, check the direction of the floor boards.
not always true
top man. cheers
Hi Mike, what if there is no wall upstairs?
Hi Sam. If the wall below support the floor, then it’s ‘load bearing’
Your explanation is too complex. Make it simple
I'm not sure if this is a joke or not. He's saying that if your joists run over your wall (rather than in the same direction as it) the wall is supporting those joists.
As Lio states… walls that ‘carry’ a floor - where the joist rest on the wall… it’s load bearing.
@@mikewoodspropertychannel -
Yes but is the true if the joists are a single piece and not spliced above the wall in question?
If you don't understand this explanation then get someone in to look at it for you before you tear a wall down.