Ecovillage Boekel: Discover the Netherlands' award-winning, sustainable housing community
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- Ecovillage Boekel was named the Netherlands' most sustainable organisation in 2021. With its own 'food forest' and a pioneering César heating system, this European project is setting the standard for green living.
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They didn’t talk about the _social_ aspect of living in a community like this, so close together. Or show the living conditions inside.
Woulda been neat to hear. I’m hope there is a longer video about this somewhere.
I can guarantee that none of the people who assigned the award are planning to move to such place
That doesn’t invalidate the initiative. Do you expect the people who hand out the Nobel peace price to also go to the war territory to “experience it for themselves”?
I'd prefer not to live so close to my neighbors
@jarnevanbec2886, What is your point? Could you elaborate?
@@peternyc that it is too easy to mark some way of living as the way to go, as long as it is somebody else. As long as they can keep on living in their own large house
@@jarnevanbec2886 Yes. I agree. I'm very much a socialist myself. Progressives and what we call liberals are smug and arrogant. The conservatives are sadistic and psychotic. Capitalism is in a zombie mode where it continues without any real benefit to the overwhelming majority. The people are themselves zombies because instead of criticizing capitalism as a failed socioeconomic system, they criticize each other on identity and culture issues. Working class in a war with itself, all the while capital engorges itself. Thanks for answering my question.
Looks almost exactly like the centuries old round, communal extended family housing in Fujian Province. 😊
All over Chinese provinces, you’ll find the same thing, there’s a few that are still standing that are hundreds of years old.
That is exactly what I noticed and was going to comment, that it seems the architect is a big fan of old Chinese multifamily housing. I think it's a very practical shape, especially if you may need to defend it or need sanctuary from strong winds to do tasks. And it makes it very easy to check on your neighbors without being intrusive.
Yep! This the same style than the Hakka traditional communal housing, aka tulou, but much uglier! The tulous are beautiful...
@@notashroom And there is a reason why they don't build them that way any more.
@@obsidianjane4413 Hi, and what is this reason?
Looks like a modern version of a shanty town.
In 1967 Montreal hosted World Fair where similar housing was touted (forget the name, something like Habitat). In a few years the place was a wreck.
I like the shape of the buildings. In one side you get a sense of community and on the other side you get a sense of privacy.
WHERE? Where do u get any privacy there?
It's got the green credentials. However... it does look rather austere and glum! (Or is that the weather?)
I think it's more the weather.
Real sustainability isn't going to look like an American HOA. It's going to more like a hippy commune from 1971.
Would be good to see inside one of the flats 🙏
They showed one kitchen :D
Same here, and are dogs allowed? If not then unfortunately my family could not live there.
We did; it looked like Soviet utilitarian style.
@@timberwolfdtproductions3890 - I assume Soviet utilitarian style = simple and functional and nothing more. I think that could work for a lot of middle-class families.
U just did - hoarder
At 2:19 - I love those trampolines next to each other. That would never happen in the USA due to insurance companies immediately dropping the customer.
😂 I literally thought the same thing. Parents from the other side of town would be showing up to petition the “death trap”
Not even in the redneck South?? Dude we've done this hundreds of times in my cousin's backyard in California 😂
@@DefensisIndus but your cousins backyard isn’t a state funded housing project. It’s a no go around public works.
@@ikeu6433 Foo we still gonna do it 😂 Who cares. And yes I understand it's not some walkable city dreamland
Nice idea but does it have to look so scruffy and unkempt? It looks as if the residents don't care about it.
They didn't pay for it, so like all things they don't. Plus its the character of people attracted to it, idealists and dreamers don't make for the most reliable of tenants.
@@obsidianjane4413 Yes that was my feeling too but you expressed it so eloquently.❤
Uncut grass keeps it cooler and helps with evaporative cooling
It's winter!
They care more about the environment than about wasting water and energy having a perfect lawn. I do agree that there are manual methods to keep things trimmed up... but I don't know how the time of year etc affects the pollinators, so maybe leaving it long is for important insects?
It seems like the units cost about 300,000 U.S. dollars each ( about 277,000 EUR ). What’s the life units expectancy, inside unit details, city water or well, is the solar heat setup sufficient for winter without fossil fuel, is the complex getting electricity. How are repairs or upgrades paid for. I would love to live there,
Thanks
the building shape is inpsired by older buildings in china villages
Yes, I saw a video on the Chinese ones. They looked a bit more natural
Yes, Hakka
Mmmmm, cost $301,484 per unit. Not exactly 'affordable housing', is it?
What's great about this design? Look at Fujian Tulou.
Exactly…😂….Build in the 15th century (except for the solar panels)
There’s no way they have enough food produced in that area for its residents. It’s minimal if anything. Looked barren to the rest of us ..
Well it was winter...
The trees & shrubs will take time to mature. Fruit & nuts trees can provide an a lot of calories when mature.
Yep they can indeed …. Don’t see any sign of any of them though?! ……. Maybe the next project they’ll get some as I can see a few saplings here and there and they just look like birch ……. (Good for syrup though right?! in about another 10 years time …)
Just herbs and some vegetables. In these, people rarely know how to actually produce food on a scale to have 12 months of food for all the people there.
Looks like a combination of soviet brutalism and gypsy-style living....
So what? Don't you care about sustainability..?
Nope, not living that close to my neighbors
@@laughy38247357075834 These aren't "sustainable" because no one is going to want to live in them. So you have to force people to.
@UFOZone51your propaganda style is too funny. You're next working place will be Rabotino
Haha
Sorry but the building looks like some minimum security prison, especially the interior courtyard. And it would totally freak me out to have not just one, but multiple neighbors be able to look right into my home from across that courtyard.
Ungodly expensive becouse land is unaffordable in the Netherlands. Too many people on too little land and you are not allowed to convert agrarian land to housing land. Only the municipality and their cronies are allowed to make money. This was possible with subsidies and the developer pocketed most of it.
That makes sense. And tbh thanks for letting me know because that means it can actually be done cheaply.
@@ikeu6433 Good luck! Changing something for the better in the Netherlands seems to be a lost cause for a long time.
@@grumbeard I’m American so you guys seem like your doing fantastic by most metrics. If I was white I’d move there.
@@ikeu6433 For all its deep and deepening flaws the Netherlands is very welcoming for non white people who are willing to work, so that shouldn't keep you. I would however not advice anyone moving here. As a matter of fact I am probably emigrating myself within the year.
That eco village looks like a nasty shithole.. reminds me of my home town before gentrification. They dont show proof of anything they say... did they even really show the inside of one of those units..? The whole place looks like a mess. Theres even obvious cracks and damage to the structures.. how long have these buildings even been there to look so run down already?
Just money laundering sceme
you need a double bounce to really get those trampoline going
Nice idea, but extremely ugly execution. Looks like some shanty houses put together. Can't you make something pleasing to the eye, every now and again, Netherlands? The two places take way too much space and have colors of poop from a gastroenterology ward.
Yes,if it looked better, more ppl would be on board and that is what ultimately matters
Doesnt look good to be honest(grey and ugly - maybe better in the summer?). For 10 mln euros I think you could build something better. And earning that 10 mln by taxpayers was not CO2 free, becouse there are not such jobs right now.
I hope at least people living there are happy and its sustainable(I doubt since it costed 10mln). If that is the case, then who I am to judge?
Things like these are usually a proof of concept. If the initiative catches on then there will be interest from contractors and business people and the cost to benefit ratio will change.
We call them cheap motels in America
Solar panels make for cheap............ Yes the design is lacking still better design in Europe than in America?....... Ok America is a continent not a Country. Its just a geographic fact just some schools don't teach it.
@@lafabricadebodasWtf are you brabbeling?
Didn't like the geography lesson? That's all you could come up with? Deep ! @@RK-cj4oc
1: The Americas are two separate continents on different tectonic plates. Geographic and Geological fact.
2: Only one country has America in it's name. Until another country uses America in their name, everyone knows which country is being referred to.
We don’t have anything like this from sea to shining sea.
I'd prefer not to live so close to my neighbors
"Nothing is wasted"
There is trash visibly strewn around.
Uh-huh.
Its a retirement home for hippie Boomers.
Their kids will be responsible for clean up after they pass and it will turn out that they all were hoarders.
Looks like a decent concept. Of course there is room for improvement, and not everyone wants to live in an apartment building. Learning opportunities are always good, and different housing options have always been part of communities.
It looks like a panopticon to me where everybody can keep and eye on everybody else. Not too surprising.
Others would simply call it community. Also shared walls use less energy and are better for the environment by using less materials
Nightmare fuel. Ripped from the prison design handbook. What a dump.
how is this sustainable?
Because they call it that and insist that you call it that. Sound familiar?
Using renewable materials, producing renewable energy, working towards a more local food supply... all are much more sustainable than the alternatives.
@@beth8775 Except often making something renewable and actually renewing something can be more energy intensive and inefficient that from new in a world where there are still abundant resources.
Reality trumps idealism.
@@obsidianjane4413 Greenwashing. Fun fact: Netherlands’ canal system isnt considered green…destruction of tidal and marshlands, cannot be green and cannot be certified as green.
@@beth8775 Greenwashing without numbers.
The water drainage need some work 😅
It looks like the houses in China that are more than 2000 years old and in China they have become empty. Here it is built and lived in and popular now. Interesting. Good way of living for sure. x
Total budget 10 mil, 2,5 mil province, 1 mil EU, 0.5 dutch gov, WHERE ARE THE REST 7 mil???????
Ty for barely showing the interiors
It looks like the projects.
Great idea, now let's make it look like somewhere most people want to live. The landscaping, pathways, buildings and everything look like reclaimed war torn location.
This is a 20th Century version of the very old Circular communal housing in China .
Of course with all the added extras ❤❤❤❤
Pokažite iznutra ,izvana izgleda pametno i funkcionalno
This is an old thing in China.
I definitely don’t support the EU eco agenda, but this project is quite cool isn’t it
Looks straight out of the UN plan: You will own nothing and be happy.
Great, when is Klaus moving in this place?
Their hearts are in the right place, but sadly it's just not reality.
It's a copy of Hakka Chinese Toulou.
Looks like its falling apart. "Natural' shouldn't have to mean junky.
Nicely Done!
Good idea to copy the ancient Chinese in this way. It was a very good design then, and it is a very good design now. 👍
Wow, awesome
I like it ... i would like to live in that type situation - important 2 have compatable neighbors.
Your neighbors are all eccentric old hippies and highly opinionated activists... GLWT.
Great, now we're Never going to hear the end of how Europe and Netherlands are 'peak' civilization 😑😂
We will die, the Earth will still be here.
Good that people try. Little by little we learn. Every step in the good direction is necessary. So I applaud such things. Wouldn't want to live in such a circle though. Gives me a bit of a claustrophobic feeling. Makes it unnecessarily dark inside. But for those, that don't mind, it's suitable, I guess.
Do like the food forest. Over time that will help a lot. But people, can't you make a nice looking yard? It really needs some work.
It looks like the projects
Brilliant!
This would be all but illegal in the U.S. The only important thing for America is business. Nothing else matters. All solutions to all problems in America have to involve as many intermediate steps as possible, meaning all solutions have to involve as many businesses as possible. Funding via credit is the only way in the U.S. as well. In short, all "solutions" to problems in the U.S. have to be as inefficient as possible and as unaffordable as possible. Wonderful country we have here.
Christ. Not true and you are just whining. Go live somewhere else then.
Illegal? Yes, everyone is altriustic, benevolent and never profit-motivated except the USA. I am sure if you want to get with a bunch of your friends and build something like this, nobody's gonna stop you, as long as it's compliant to code. Yeah, this is a great alternative to those evil businesses - 40% of this development's funding comes from various provincial, national, and EU governments, so it's hardly self-sustaining....it's on the dole. Pretty sure a lot of complexity went into the design not to mention finding funding for it. I'm sure these people love their little "project" being funded by taxpayers. It probably works fine with a bunch of like-minded people living there with similar goals and world views and with heavy government funding. Probably not so well for average people and a petri dish for privacy issues and conflict. Yes, the water conservation is pretty funny in a country literally buried in water who have polders and dykes designed to keep it out, with no known water shortage issues. They also have a super mild climate by North American standards, they get plenty of rain, it's overcast half the year, and "heat" to them is 80°F. Source: me, I lived there. If you find NYC too expensive, you do have options on where you can live that are a lot cheaper, so don't project your personal frustrations from your ultra-expensive city onto all of us.
10 million dollar home?
Are they waiting for a solar power lawn mower?
Looks very dystopian. Not for me.
They recreated Fujian! Hopefully they will develop new Kung Fu.
Looks like 💩
50 people???
That garden might feed 5 people
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I know they're trying to conserve energy, and you can tell. Because I certainly can't see where anyone has wasted any "physical energy" cutting the grass or picking up junk in the yard! The place looks like a slum.
trampolines: they have built an orthopedic surgery factory
Wow, piles of trash, large pools of standing water, uncut grass and undergrowth, there's no possible way this could become a haven for pests and rodents in no time flat.
Well, at least the exterminators will be sure to have lots of business, just don't let your kids play outside if you don't want them getting tetanus, lime disease, hentavirus or any of the number of pathogens mosquitos carry.
It's wild the risks people will take for 'sustainability'.
❤️
Zero privacy despite it being eco friendly. I'd like some degrees of separation from my neighbours, thank you very much. It's like they transporting rural fujian to the Netherlands.
I bet they are shitting in buckets to :P
This is one option. There is no one size fits all solution.
What an ugly place… I don’t care how sustainable it is.
It is it your one and only criteria, I guess you won't candidate to live in those :)
@@Reddfrogg yes, it is. No one wants to live in a dump…
@@Reddfrogg Beauty of your surrounding has an impact on your psyche. Very important social and health factor.
Looks like they have a less than 1 1/2 year olds understanding of tiling. About 40% of Roof top is missing PV or Solar Thermal usage!!!
Seems like the people their went too lazy to make it tidy.
Hmm. Nice idea. No doubt it will help, even if only to inspire improvements - like no solar batteries (lithium mines are even uglier than oil spills) and maybe without the petroleum-based trampolines. I'm all for building with hemp bricks or lumber, but for this to REALLY work, anything made of any plastic at all (like polyurethane on the kitchen cabinets) has to go. And good fkg riddance.
Looks like a homeless encampment.
Still better than being literally homeless.
Looks like Detroit.
Good ideas, but the whole place kind of looks like a dump, not a natural utopia. Looks like a rather depressing place to live.
Cheap noisy motel.
The place looks like something out of 1970’s Russia. The place is a dump.
You will own nothing and be happy, Klaus Schwab.
What an abomination of architecture, Looks like a dystopian prison.
Israeli kibbutz?
Looks great, but now practically house 7.8b people in this concept...
The solution for the planet is going to take many different types. There’s no size fits all.
Another attempt to force everyone into 15 minute cities, & concrete blocks! NO- this ugly place looks like a prison! A trashy one!
Why do everyone who live in these types of communities look like hippies from 70s. Every single one.
the sickness...
You will own nothing, and be happy.
The problem with the idea of owning nothing is that it means that someone else who you don't know is owning everything.
Asylums 😊
Homeless housing!
Not excited to live so close to other people.
It looks ugly...
nice shape, but why not put better efforts to make a better garden?
Looks like a slum
Looks like slum
Is this the future? No.
The future will require a multitude of solutions co existing. The typical way of living can be improved. This is only 1 version of that.
It's now a slum for dependent mother's and drug dealers
Made of hemp?? Stoners will purposely set it on fire, to get high !!
So it's a cult.
I see a lot of vacancies.
buehehehehehe where is muslim frends ? hehehehehehee
Looks like a homeless encampment