I heard: About six weeks to first harvest, up to four harvests - 10 days apart. A 35' bed is yielding approximately $200 worth in each harvest. Nice numbers Curtis.
@Urban Farmer Curtis Stone Gonna sprout our first batch of Red Russian soon! My Mother loves a small garden. I, on the other hand, am very much going to start small and reinvest into becoming an urban farmer! Thanks for what you do bro!
Curtis, what is your spacing on your plants - I'm getting ready to plant my winter crop and planted it in planter boxes the last time I tried to grow it. My seeds are about 2 years old so hope they will still germinate.
I noticed that my red russian kale was going to seed (it formed a flower heard but didn't open up yet). Can I cut the flower head off and save the kale or is it too late and the kale will taste bitter? Also, how densely are you planting your kale (a seed every 4 inches or so? Thank you.
About to buy a Jang seeder, over in Australia. Have you tried the Johnny's 6 row seeder? Surely that would be quicker than doing 6 runs with the Jang, or is there too much mucking around getting the 6 row working right? Cheers for the great clips!
I have and I sold it. It might seem faster, but it's not always. You have to be a lot more careful in bed prep. It's not a fast tool. I can literally run when using the Jang.
hey man... ive seen u on owen... dude, the edges of mine get yellowish... i cant figure out why tho... any thoughts?. other greens around them are fine. Not sure if over or under watering maybe?
Hey +James Da Costa, all I know is that I use the F24 roller on the Jang Seeder. I'm sure it's at least one seed per 8th of an inch. Probably a bit more.
You mentioned the stem was a bit long, would you cut it with a shorter stem, and then re-trim the bed so you don't end up with a lot of stems in the next cutting in 10-15 days?
My red russian is getting bigger than what you are cutting there Curtis and I am not sure if I should just cut it tomorrow and market it as baby kale or wait two more weeks and put it in with the lettuce and beet greens as a salad mix.
Thank you for your response Curtis. I went with my gut and began cutting it for the farmers market tomorrow. In fact, I am going back and cutting a little more to complete a bag.
Curtis, if you are available, I know you got that awesome training going on, but I am confused, I have seen red russian kale that grow really huge. Is it that you harvest them before they get huge? Also, how big are the leaves when you harvest them? The size of the palm of an adult male?
hey Curtis, thx for the vids, they're great! What is your density of planting? How many rows and what is the in row spacing. Would you use the same density for other baby greens such as arugula, mesclun mix etc. ? Would a Earthway work for dense plantings...I know you are using a Jang..I am thinking about cost initially.
@@offgridcurtisstone Hi Curtis I was scroling thru the comments to find a question about seed spacing of Red Russian Kale. I have your book but i cant find what spacing you use only that you using Jang F24 roller for this crop.
Hey Curtis, why so small? Does it grow any larger in Canada? I'm over in Australia and thinking about planting Red Russian Kale but from what I understand they are big leaves?
Could you tell me what your spacing is on your kale plants? Also I was wondering, when you start them by seed in the cells, do you put one see or a few and do you thin them to one plant or just plant what you get?
On page 195 you mention that you grow head lettuce. I thought the only kind of lettuce you grew was the Salanova. On page 196 you have a 9 in the row/bed column for Russian Kale. What does the 9 mean? So you use 17 grams or .60oz per 25 feet of bed. So you load your seeder and then go back and forth until the seed hopper is empty? How far apart is each pass with your seeder?
I've grown many things before. I don't grow head lettuce anymore in that context. 9 means, 9 rows in a 30" bed. Plant 9 rows and that's it. The 9 rows are equal distance apart. Start with 3 rows, then spilt the difference to make 5, then split the difference to make 9. No measurements required. All of that is explained in the book. Keep reading. Good luck.
I was hoping you could clear up a discrepancy from your book. Fig 6 (Crop Profiles) & Fig 49 (Seed sowing Density) both have 'Apr-Sep' for when to direct seed. Fig 49 doesn't have a date for first GH/PLT plant date but the crops section (production) says it's one of the first greens you direct seed in the greenhouse; "my earliest seeding would be late February". If you could, please verify the dates from the book, it would be greatly appreciated. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- When to | First | First Field | Last Field | Last DS | GH/PLT | Plant Date | Plant Date | GH/PLT | plant date | no cover | | plant date ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Apr-Sept | n/a | Apr 27 | Aug 10 | Aug 31 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks again for all the great Video's and Information!
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+Happy Gardener This tool is worth every penny my friend. The young man who invented it worked very hard for many years to get it to market. This tool saves me 100 hours of labour a year. The $500 price tag is a drop in the bucket in the grand scheme of things.
+Happy Gardener I wholeheartedly agree with Curtis. I bought the harvester last year after pacing back and forth behind my computer over the amount the harvester cost. In hindsight, it is worth so much more than the cost.
+Urban Farmer Curtis Stone I think Happy Gardener was talking about home or allotment gardeners. I'd love to have one myself, but I can't justify it for a 150 sq meter allotment. Wish there was something between a knife and that machine :->
Ctwo First They do have one that is not powered by a drill, but just a long blade attached to a similar basket with a handle. I thought about getting that one, but people said the issue would be that if they didnt get a thick stand of greens it was almost useless, as trying to cut the greens, they would just fall over instead. The non-powered unit is $250 or so...
+Urban Farmer Curtis Stone since I get around by bike and public trans it going to be hard but I will try to make Pasadena or SD. I will have to camp out some place.
+Michael McMillan Really? In the grocery store on my street, Earth Bound from California is selling for 14.99 / lb. $10 is not expensive at all. Keep in mind, prices are all relative to where you are. Generally if you're in a place where prices are really low, cost of living is low. It's all relative. Don't get too hung up on prices.
@Urban Farmer Curtis Stone Gonna sprout our first batch of Red Russian soon! My Mother loves a small garden. I, on the other hand, am very much going to start small and reinvest into becoming an urban farmer! Thanks for what you do bro!
I have basically learned how to farm watching your videos and I’ll say these types of videos are the most helpful.
I heard: About six weeks to first harvest, up to four harvests - 10 days apart. A 35' bed is yielding approximately $200 worth in each harvest. Nice numbers Curtis.
@Urban Farmer Curtis Stone Gonna sprout our first batch of Red Russian soon! My Mother loves a small garden.
I, on the other hand, am very much going to start small and reinvest into becoming an urban farmer! Thanks for what you do bro!
Now that's a Front Yard!
Can you make a video on packaging your herbs and greens? Thanks for all your videos they are awesome.
Very solid information once again, Curtis!
Curtis, what is your spacing on your plants - I'm getting ready to plant my winter crop and planted it in planter boxes the last time I tried to grow it. My seeds are about 2 years old so hope they will still germinate.
I noticed that my red russian kale was going to seed (it formed a flower heard but didn't open up yet). Can I cut the flower head off and save the kale or is it too late and the kale will taste bitter? Also, how densely are you planting your kale (a seed every 4 inches or so? Thank you.
Another question, about how many ounces of seed did you use for that section of kale?
+Michael McMillan Would of been around 7 oz's. All of that kind of info is in my book.
About to buy a Jang seeder, over in Australia. Have you tried the Johnny's 6 row seeder? Surely that would be quicker than doing 6 runs with the Jang, or is there too much mucking around getting the 6 row working right? Cheers for the great clips!
I have and I sold it. It might seem faster, but it's not always. You have to be a lot more careful in bed prep. It's not a fast tool. I can literally run when using the Jang.
Where did you get your green machine to collect the kale?
Hi Curtis - have you tried harvesting any other kale varieties at this size?
+Rachel Yeats Yes, most others don't do as well at this high of a density.
Great video! Do you harvest according to demand, then sell it or by age of plant and store in coolers?
+Vance Nice We always store the harvest in the cooler. We're usually harvesting based on what ordered.
Do you ever have problems with cotyledons getting into the red Russian kale?
+dubosegd Yes. I just try to cut higher.
hey man... ive seen u on owen... dude, the edges of mine get yellowish... i cant figure out why tho... any thoughts?. other greens around them are fine. Not sure if over or under watering maybe?
Hey Curtis, whats your in row spacing and how many rows per bed for the baby kale, great videos by the way
Hey +James Da Costa, all I know is that I use the F24 roller on the Jang Seeder. I'm sure it's at least one seed per 8th of an inch. Probably a bit more.
$100 8 years ago, not bad. Better than lawn.
You mentioned the stem was a bit long, would you cut it with a shorter stem, and then re-trim the bed so you don't end up with a lot of stems in the next cutting in 10-15 days?
+Adam Stevens Yes, sometimes I've done that. But, only if they're on the third cut.
love your videos where did you find the harvesting machine
This amazing machine comes from Johnny's Seeds.
Have you ever tried growing lacinato or the green curly kales as a baby, I've got a juice guy looking for those, says baby are easier.
I haven't harvested mine yet I have a lot of questions minor about 6 to 8 inches tall now beautiful red purple how can I seed them out
Curtis, what plant spacing do you use for this crop (and number of rows)?
Awesome Bro! Amaze me every time... Love that Harvesting Tool.. Genius!
My red russian is getting bigger than what you are cutting there Curtis and I am not sure if I should just cut it tomorrow and market it as baby kale or wait two more weeks and put it in with the lettuce and beet greens as a salad mix.
With RR, you have to cut it when it's ready. It'll get too big in two days.
Thank you for your response Curtis. I went with my gut and began cutting it for the farmers market tomorrow. In fact, I am going back and cutting a little more to complete a bag.
Curtis, if you are available, I know you got that awesome training going on, but I am confused, I have seen red russian kale that grow really huge. Is it that you harvest them before they get huge? Also, how big are the leaves when you harvest them? The size of the palm of an adult male?
+Daniel C ya, we harvest them small. Just like in the video.
Thank you for sharing!
hey Curtis, thx for the vids, they're great! What is your density of planting? How many rows and what is the in row spacing. Would you use the same density for other baby greens such as arugula, mesclun mix etc. ? Would a Earthway work for dense plantings...I know you are using a Jang..I am thinking about cost initially.
+Janak Desai Hey Janak, for that level of detailed questions, just get my book. It saves me typing out so many words. Best.
+Urban Farmer Curtis Stone okay thanks.
@@offgridcurtisstone Hi Curtis I was scroling thru the comments to find a question about seed spacing of Red Russian Kale. I have your book but i cant find what spacing you use only that you using Jang F24 roller for this crop.
about how many inches are your kale before you harvest the baby kale?...also how would you package the kale to sell at market?
About 5 inches off the ground. Stick it in a 4oz bag and close it.
+Urban Farmer Curtis Stone
thanks so much!
SO where does your machine cut it ? At the root ? im confused how this grow back or does it leave some small shoots ? kid of like topping the plant
Topping it. Like a haircut, then it grows back.
How tall should the plats be at harvest ?
Hey Curtis, what was the row spacing for this crop and also the seed spacing ??
9 per 30" bed. Jang Seeder roller F24
Did you plant the seeds individually or did you use some kind of seeder. Thanks for sharing your vids
+BadAssFarmer Yes, you need a seeder if you're going to farm commercially. We use the Jang seeder.
I don't have a jang seeder I have an earthway seeder is there a certain plate that is compatible with planting red Russian kale?
Do you like the Earthway ?
@@liniformservice4609 I wonder if the radish plate would work well for baby kale.
my man!
How much your cut machine? and where i can buy it. i'm froum thailand thx
Where do you get your bulk seeds? Or have I just not read far enough yet? Haha
+Thegoldenratio Keep reading. Lots of good seed companies out there!
Urban Farmer Curtis Stone gotcha
love the videos...where do you get the thing that you were cutting the kale with..
+david huston search: Quick Cut Greens Harvester
Hey Curtis, why so small? Does it grow any larger in Canada?
I'm over in Australia and thinking about planting Red Russian Kale but from what I understand they are big leaves?
I grow small crops. Faster to harvest, higher prince per pound. That's my business model.
So Red Russian Kale isn't red?
great info
Is the reason your leaves are so small because you have them so densely planted, plus your choosing to harvest them when they are that small?
Could you tell me what your spacing is on your kale plants? Also I was wondering, when you start them by seed in the cells, do you put one see or a few and do you thin them to one plant or just plant what you get?
+Patrick Pittman red Russian kale is always direct seeded on my farm. All the seed densities and stuff like that are in my book.
On page 195 you mention that you grow head lettuce. I thought the only kind of lettuce you grew was the Salanova. On page 196 you have a 9 in the row/bed column for Russian Kale. What does the 9 mean? So you use 17 grams or .60oz per 25 feet of bed. So you load your seeder and then go back and forth until the seed hopper is empty? How far apart is each pass with your seeder?
I've grown many things before. I don't grow head lettuce anymore in that context. 9 means, 9 rows in a 30" bed. Plant 9 rows and that's it. The 9 rows are equal distance apart. Start with 3 rows, then spilt the difference to make 5, then split the difference to make 9. No measurements required. All of that is explained in the book. Keep reading. Good luck.
I was hoping you could clear up a discrepancy from your book. Fig 6 (Crop Profiles) & Fig 49 (Seed sowing Density) both have 'Apr-Sep' for when to direct seed. Fig 49 doesn't have a date for first GH/PLT plant date but the crops section (production) says it's one of the first greens you direct seed in the greenhouse; "my earliest seeding would be late February". If you could, please verify the dates from the book, it would be greatly appreciated.
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When to | First | First Field | Last Field | Last
DS | GH/PLT | Plant Date | Plant Date | GH/PLT
| plant date | no cover | | plant date
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Apr-Sept | n/a | Apr 27 | Aug 10 | Aug 31
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Thanks again for all the great Video's and Information!
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+CrazyAZ Gardener Yes, thanks. Working on it.
thanks
Kid in background “ there’s that crazy guy talking to himself about his plants.. again “
Can you direct seed red russian kale in the middle of the summer, say now?
We do. Ya, just seed it.
Thanks for answering my question Curtis. I am going to do it with the red russian kale and I started doing it with the beets as well this morning.
The harvester what is that???
+Alien A It's from Johnny's Seeds.
Fantastic tool for harvesting greens, shame it's so expensive and not financially realistic for your average gardener.
+Happy Gardener This tool is worth every penny my friend. The young man who invented it worked very hard for many years to get it to market. This tool saves me 100 hours of labour a year. The $500 price tag is a drop in the bucket in the grand scheme of things.
+Happy Gardener I wholeheartedly agree with Curtis. I bought the harvester last year after pacing back and forth behind my computer over the amount the harvester cost. In hindsight, it is worth so much more than the cost.
+Urban Farmer Curtis Stone I think Happy Gardener was talking about home or allotment gardeners. I'd love to have one myself, but I can't justify it for a 150 sq meter allotment. Wish there was something between a knife and that machine :->
Ctwo First They do have one that is not powered by a drill, but just a long blade attached to a similar basket with a handle. I thought about getting that one, but people said the issue would be that if they didnt get a thick stand of greens it was almost useless, as trying to cut the greens, they would just fall over instead. The non-powered unit is $250 or so...
That scared the crap out of me when he started lol iv never seen that before
Who sells that tool ?
+Walt Lars Farmers Friend LLC.
Yes I found them once somebody posted the proper name
Do you have any plans to give any classes in Southern Calif ?
Oh ya, we'll be all over California. theurbanfarmer.co/events/
+Urban Farmer Curtis Stone since I get around by bike and public trans it going to be hard but I will try to make Pasadena or SD. I will have to camp out some place.
Do what ya have to do to get around
Where are you selling it that you can get $10 a pound? That is crazy expensive.
+Michael McMillan Really? In the grocery store on my street, Earth Bound from California is selling for 14.99 / lb. $10 is not expensive at all. Keep in mind, prices are all relative to where you are. Generally if you're in a place where prices are really low, cost of living is low. It's all relative. Don't get too hung up on prices.
+Urban Farmer Curtis Stone Wow, I guess I've been growing my own greens for so long I am out of touch!
how do you keep thieves out of the garden lol
I don't wanna come with the hate, but who da hell does that to a front lawn!!!
@Urban Farmer Curtis Stone Gonna sprout our first batch of Red Russian soon! My Mother loves a small garden.
I, on the other hand, am very much going to start small and reinvest into becoming an urban farmer! Thanks for what you do bro!