21 MORE nooby Python habits

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  • @markolson8569
    @markolson8569 ปีที่แล้ว +153

    Love the "don't parse HTML with regex" reference. One of my favorite pieces of programming humor.

  • @notenoughmonkeys
    @notenoughmonkeys ปีที่แล้ว +192

    For #17 there is a minor gotcha being you can't end a raw string with a lone backslash (i.e. r"windows\path" is legal, r"windows\path\" is not). Trivial to workaround but something that might catch people out the first time they try to prepend with r.

    • @DanCojocaru2000
      @DanCojocaru2000 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      That's a very weird restriction.

    • @notenoughmonkeys
      @notenoughmonkeys ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@DanCojocaru2000 So it makes sense when you realise it’s not a raw string, it’s a string with the escape sequences left unparsed. But they still have to be legal escape sequences.
      So “abc\” isn’t legal because it assumes \” is the unescaped text and the string is now missing the closing quote.
      It’s also why “abc\\” is legal.

    • @DanCojocaru2000
      @DanCojocaru2000 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@notenoughmonkeys Quite weird design.

    • @notenoughmonkeys
      @notenoughmonkeys ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@DanCojocaru2000 Completely agree. Caught me completely off guard when I first encountered it, but once you know, you know.

    • @taravanova
      @taravanova ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Not the first time I've prepended with r, but this actually happened to me today and I couldn't see why it shouldn't work. What a timely coincidence.

  • @atrus3823
    @atrus3823 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    I agree about map and filter. Comprehensions are usually more readable and avoid ugly function expressions, but there is a niche use case for map: if your generator comprehension would look like this: (f(a, b, c) for a, b, c in zip(A, B, C)), map(f, A, B, C) is a lot more elegant, and often more readable. For example, (a + b for a, b in zip(A, B)) becomes map(add, A, B). (need to import add from operator)

    • @thirtysixnanoseconds1086
      @thirtysixnanoseconds1086 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      idk see anything wrong with map(int, arr) tbh

    • @cleverclover7
      @cleverclover7 ปีที่แล้ว

      idk, at returning and passing in 3+ tuples you really should start thinking about using a namedtuple at that point imo

    • @atrus3823
      @atrus3823 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@thirtysixnanoseconds1086 yeah, that's another good use for map. I guess I should have said there are few niche use cases for map.

    • @atrus3823
      @atrus3823 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@cleverclover7 none of these examples are returning 3 tuples. They all return iterators. Can you elaborate on the use of named tuples here?

    • @Deadlious
      @Deadlious ปีที่แล้ว

      not to mention that in certain situations map is a tiny bit faster...

  • @p3ol
    @p3ol ปีที่แล้ว +57

    I started learning python a couple years ago to fill a gap left by depression. I'm close to 50 now (not that I wasn't 2 years ago), in that time I've managed to write an AOL3.0+ compatible server - for nostalgia - in python utilizing your videos for guidance, and other content creators as well. I've recently switched to using #pycharm from vscode. Thank you very much for your content, it has helped me tremendously in improving my project and my comprehension of python.

  • @stacklysm
    @stacklysm ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Thanks for making a sequel to the first Nooby Habits video, would be awesome if you could do another one for C++ as well.

    • @DrDeuteron
      @DrDeuteron 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      please keep the comments python pure. I don't need to hear the J word(s), nor anything involving the letter between B and D.

  • @DanielLavedoniodeLima_DLL
    @DanielLavedoniodeLima_DLL ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I've just found out that I never really understood the behavior of "and" and "or" for non-boolean types before this video. Awesome content, as always! #pycharm

    • @DrDeuteron
      @DrDeuteron 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's called "Short Circuit Logic".

  • @dejanualex
    @dejanualex 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    worth mentioning for no 8: that non-empty collections are considered Truthy , plus the fact that and operator returns the LAST EVALUATED value if all values are true

  • @baryemini4103
    @baryemini4103 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I personally usually prefer filter or map if possible over list comprehensions, I think filter and map have quite an unfortunate syntax in python, as at least in my opinion the order is completely flipped compared to how you read it, I read it as “iterator, operation, function” and instead it reads as “operation, function, iterator”. This also means chaining them is a nightmare because it’s nested instead of appearing one after another, and neither one is ergonomic nor readable when chaining more than two… also the lambda syntax is overly verbose, and not particularly accessible especially to non native speakers as it’s quite an obscure word

    • @andrewglick6279
      @andrewglick6279 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree that map and filter's syntax in Python isn't the best. As much as I like list comprehensions, sometimes I find myself wanting to use map or filter, but I'm not a huge fan of Python's lambda syntax. I wish there were a better way to do multi-line inline functions in Python (plus don't even get me started on the Callable[] type hint). You might appreciate the PyFunctional library which adds a convenient way of chaining map/filter. Unfortunately, it doesn't currently have support for type hints so it's maybe not the best if you use Pylance's type checker.

    • @joshix833
      @joshix833 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm currently writing a library called typed-stream. That allows you to easily chain such operations. It's fully typed and checked with mypy

    • @DrDeuteron
      @DrDeuteron 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      it makes sense when you're used to writing math things right-to-left, M_fi, which would be an amplitude to go from the initial state (i) to the final state (f)

  • @hankertric
    @hankertric ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love the “and” and “or” explanation, it’s so much easier to understand compared to all the resources out there on the web that have some convoluted explanation of it that’s really difficult to understand. #pycharm

  • @Libertarian1208
    @Libertarian1208 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    #13 deleting while iterating - one can use
    for key, val in list(d.items():
    del d[key]
    In fact you have shown this in one of your videos and I have been using that ever since. It makes code much more readable that collecting the things to delete.
    #pycharm

    • @cetilly
      @cetilly 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is a gem! I love this

  • @justingerber9531
    @justingerber9531 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    3: I'm ALWAYS trying to tell people to use pathlib.Path instead of strings!!
    10: Ooh divmod looks awesome! Can't wait to use it!
    14: Interesting take on filter/map, I think I could agree.
    17: I *roughly* knew about raw strings but feel more confident with them after you're 20 second explanation (which I watched at 2x speed)
    21: Yes, forcing prints at import is the worst!!
    Love all your videos, thank you! #pycharm

    • @lawrencedoliveiro9104
      @lawrencedoliveiro9104 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      pathlib just seems to be a sop to Microsoft Windows. String manipulation is perfectly straightforward for POSIX paths.
      7:45 Fun fact: “/” works as a path separator even on Python on Windows.

    • @justingerber9531
      @justingerber9531 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lawrencedoliveiro9104 I've never worked in a pure POSIX environment, and now I work in an environment where code is deployed on both Windows and Linux systems. I don't know the difference between all different types of forward and backward slashes and which operating systems uses which types in which cases and that's the way I want it.

    • @slash_me
      @slash_me ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@lawrencedoliveiro9104 it's fine, but still pathlib is very convenient, it helps with splitting paths into their components and has a nice functional interface that allows chaining.
      Also, it helps a lot if you need to handle paths that need to follow specs of a foreign OS (handling POSIX paths in Windows or vice versa).

    • @lawrencedoliveiro9104
      @lawrencedoliveiro9104 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@slash_me Everything does POSIX these days. It’s no point developing for anything else.

    • @slash_me
      @slash_me ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@lawrencedoliveiro9104 not true. I had a case recently where I needed to handle Windows paths on a POSIX system and pathlib was perfect for that. No, I couldn't use POSIX paths, I explicitly needed Windows paths.

  • @spacebibba8984
    @spacebibba8984 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Regarding #14: Mostly, one should go for generator expressions like you did, as wirting out "lambda x: ...." as function doesn't save many characters and makes the thing harder to read - granted.
    However, When stacking multiple of those expressions (map, filter, reduce, etc.), they can be quite cool. Especially when all those variable names used in your generator would happen to be longer than the usual line together (so you're force to line-break), it looks cleaner to line-break between arguments of a function (effectively creating an easily traceable staircase of transformations functions) that to line break before the "if" of a generator - the latter looks much uglier when stacked into each other.
    One could argue that I should define my generator expression, then use it when defining the next generator expression and so on, until I did all my transformations - fair point. However, this encourages defining multiple useless variables which serve so purpose and uses up the same amount of lines a stacked reduce(sum(map(fm, filter(ff, myList))) does.
    I agree, that real use-cases with enough transformations to make this worthwhile are rarer that isolated cases of a map for filter transformation. When confronted with the latter, you should obviously choose the generator-expression approach.

    • @joshix833
      @joshix833 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      For that I'm currently writing a library. That'll help to handle this nesting mess without needing to define many variables. It's typed-stream on pypi. It's usable, but hasn't reached 1.0 yet.
      e.g.:
      Stream.counting().limit(100).map(operator.mul, 2).filter(lambda x: x%5).peek(print).sum()

    • @karserasl
      @karserasl ปีที่แล้ว

      So... Functional programming?

  • @Nerdimo
    @Nerdimo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ve coded python for about 3 years now and never knew divmod existed. I learn something knew every time I watch your channel

  • @nnirr1
    @nnirr1 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Awesome tips! Love your videos ☺️
    Personally I prefer to iterate over a copy of the dict instead of the extra for loop. While it's less memory efficient, I don't mind it too much since it's a shallow copy and in most cases, I prioritize the readability of the code over efficiency.
    Also, I'm a bit torn on the filter and map tips (well, less on the map part and more on the filter part 😉)
    When there is no lambda involved, and depending on the specific variable names we are working with, the filter function can sometimes be closer to human language (though I admit this doesn't happen often).
    I wonder if in the future there will be a clear runtime difference between the two, there is already a PEP open to make comprehensions more efficient. #pycharm

  • @DrDeuteron
    @DrDeuteron 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No 7: also yes. If I want that functionality, but think it may need to me flexible, a store the default as a module constant:
    STRICT = True
    def number7(*args, strict=STRICT):

  • @lennartbreede
    @lennartbreede ปีที่แล้ว +3

    pathlib is definitely something I could be using more and StringIO was completely new to me! Thank you, love your content #pycharm

  • @cedric1731
    @cedric1731 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Honestly, I am disagreeing with filter and lambda. I got so used to these functions (also due to other languages maybe) that I now find them more readable than list comprehensions, at least usually. Sometimes I still think list comprehensions are better, but nowadays it only rarely happens.

  • @richardcoppin5332
    @richardcoppin5332 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Even though I mainly code for Widows OS. If stopped using backslashes as a directory delimiter a long time ago. All python paths can work if you use forests-slashes and even Widows explorer handles forward-slashes so there's really no need to use backslashes in file paths in python.

  • @evansuits4926
    @evansuits4926 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is Good Stuff! 17 years of assembler followed by 20+ years of C have left me unprepared for these newfangled gadgets. Thanks ever so much for helping me see through the blur ....

    • @DrDeuteron
      @DrDeuteron 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Syntactic Sugar is GOOD FOR YOU.

  • @ДімаКрасько-с7м
    @ДімаКрасько-с7м ปีที่แล้ว

    As far as I know, something was changed in string concatenation. Concatenation of 10 million elements with StringIO beats basic string concatenation just by 10%

  • @SPARCHE
    @SPARCHE ปีที่แล้ว

    I experimented with concStringPlus and concStringIO and got a result that, at first, contradicted your assumption, since for small and non-chaotic strings the plus method is faster. So I added some complexity to the strings and the numbers got crazy for the plus, jumping from 0.55s to 1.61s, while remaining the same for the StringIO func (near 0.61s for 100000 runs with 100 operations each). My conclusion is: if you're incrementing your string with very small parts, stick to +=. If it's random-sized or chaotic, StringIO will keep the excellent work throughout.

    • @0LoneTech
      @0LoneTech ปีที่แล้ว

      CPython optimizes str+= if there are no other references to the left hand string, but that relies on it being able to reallocate the string data; if your other code was allocating new objects, the risk that reallocation requires a copy goes up drastically. StringIO can reduce these reallocations by keeping a margin for growth, much like list does. Your small and non-chaotic strings may have been previously allocated (e.g. interned), making the ideal case for str+= to reallocate without copying.

  • @WareXProvider
    @WareXProvider 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Adding persons together at 6:53 is hillarious! Making friends is not an associative (or even commutative) operation! The friendship relationship is also not reflective, symmetric or transitive. People are not numbers!

  • @Knusperschnitte
    @Knusperschnitte ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Still found areas to improve. Thank you for your videos 👍
    #pycharm

  • @anezere
    @anezere ปีที่แล้ว

    I once was creating a parser in python and, naturally, was using bs4 for finding stuff. This, however, resulted in a bottleneck and replacing bs4 with regex made a 12x speed improvement from a couple of seconds for each operation to a couple dozens of milliseconds

  • @yolosaurusrex90
    @yolosaurusrex90 ปีที่แล้ว

    been programming in python for years and consider myself somewhere between intermediate and advanced, and even your beginner-oriented videos have something new to me in them. there are so many beginner python creators out there and i'm thankful that it's so accessible now, but i definitely appreciate the higher-level "niche" you tend to make videos in, even when you claim it's for noobs. also #pycharm gimme that license mDaddy

  • @_dimension_
    @_dimension_ ปีที่แล้ว

    "A lot of noobs, especially people coming from Java" - love it (4:35)

    • @mCoding
      @mCoding  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey Java was my first language so I can say that!

  • @Finkelfunk
    @Finkelfunk ปีที่แล้ว

    Small annotation to 10: The reason you do this is that most processors use a divmod that is built in already. That means the processor will most likely perform the operation twice only to discard the mod in the first go around and the result in the second.

    • @bee_irl
      @bee_irl ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yes definitely microoptimize your assembly code in python, the performance increase will be tremendous

  • @carrotsandrunning
    @carrotsandrunning 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    those filter and map improvements were way harder to understand than the filter and map examples. o_O

  • @ObsessiveClarity
    @ObsessiveClarity 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    2:17 for this particular example (though I'm not criticizing the tip), the following is even better (20% faster for n = 100000 for me -- and clearer):
    s = "".join(f"some string {i}" for i in range(n))

    • @DrDeuteron
      @DrDeuteron 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'll do old school:
      func = "some string {}".format
      s = ''.join(map(func, range(n)))
      but I hate loops.

  • @cleverclover7
    @cleverclover7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Totally agree with all of these, but the 2 that irk me the most is altering the iterator and using eval. There's almost always a better way to do it than to use eval, but I think in the age of computer generated code it's especially important to understand the dangers of.

  • @srenbzr
    @srenbzr ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not sure about avoiding map/filter all the time but awesome tips, thanks #pycharm

    • @DrDeuteron
      @DrDeuteron 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I like hiding loops, but I've written some itertools/map/filter constructions that are abominable

  • @arjix8738
    @arjix8738 ปีที่แล้ว

    I also agree that eval should not be used for parsing data, but you can pretty much completely sandbox it
    eval("{'h':6}", {"__builtins__":{}})
    Note: someone might still find a way to evaluate unsafe code, so don't do this.
    It's just a nice thing to know.

    • @arjix8738
      @arjix8738 ปีที่แล้ว

      No global exists within this sandbox, if a vulnerability exists, it would abuse the built-in datatypes like `(5).__mul__(8)`
      But I can't think of a real exploit for this.

  • @philippedias4357
    @philippedias4357 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damned. I taught being proficient in my python skills but some nooby habits are still sticking. Thanks for making us realising that. #pycharm

  • @gvarph7212
    @gvarph7212 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have a question about #7. If I have some global constants, is it ok to use them directly in functions, or should I pass them through few layers of functions from main?

    • @liamwatts7105
      @liamwatts7105 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think constants are fine, denote them by writing in UPPER_CASE_SNAKE_CASE

    • @mCoding
      @mCoding  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Great question! ALL these nooby habits are okay and they all have situations where they are, in fact, quite reasonable things to do. Just as you suspected, using a global constant is a perfectly reasonable thing to do.

    • @DrDeuteron
      @DrDeuteron 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I like:
      STRICT = True
      def func(*args, strict=STRICT):
      so:
      It works like a global
      It can be overridden if necessary
      the interface is exposed to users

  • @doctortroels
    @doctortroels ปีที่แล้ว

    #5 is slightly misleading, since it depends on the python implementation. The statement is true for PyPy, but CPython cleverly uses a reference count of one to make the string mutable. The proposed fix has the exact same performance in CPython (replace 100 with 10000000 to get a proper measurement).

  • @jagannathpadhy1821
    @jagannathpadhy1821 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damn, I thought I was being proficient in my python skills but some nooby habits are still sticking. Thanks for making us realising that. #pycharm

  • @dorusie5
    @dorusie5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    started using dataclasses because I rely heavily on sending dicts around as messages, and then I immediately got the issue of exporting/importing to json. Kind of an annoyance that whole pickle business.
    So why is using raw dicts a noobie practice btw? You just said not to do it, but not why.

  • @Ballrock30
    @Ballrock30 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes! Only 3 of 21. But honestly, some points are so advanced I never had the chance to do them wrong :D

  • @mrlint0
    @mrlint0 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Whenever these come up all I can see are things i do :)

  • @shandows15
    @shandows15 ปีที่แล้ว

    My takeaway as a non-python programmer: Oh dear god, python has support for multiple inheritance.

  • @icq8680
    @icq8680 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think filter/map functions are not that bad to read. List comprehension is good, but I would rather not rush rewriting all filter calls to list comp style #pycharm

  • @luziferius3687
    @luziferius3687 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Map and filter are fine. I like functional programming with functools and itertools. #pycharm

    • @DrDeuteron
      @DrDeuteron 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      fewer loops is better, imho.

  • @sonosus
    @sonosus ปีที่แล้ว

    Well, it's nice to see I'm not as much of a noob as I was when the last video was released. #pycharm

  • @jacanchaplais8083
    @jacanchaplais8083 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am a big fan of iterators, and I really disagree about map and filter. I get that sometimes they are less readable, but they also make it way easier to build pipelines of lazy data manipulation. Also, generators and comprehensions have poorer performance, due to the for keyword, afaik. I think this isn't a n00b habit, as most n00bs don't understand iterators and functional / declarative styles, just seems more like a question of taste.

  • @Energeneer
    @Energeneer ปีที่แล้ว +1

    #pycharm
    "Keep that coll tech job you somehow got" pretty much sums it up :D

  • @00001Htheprogrammer
    @00001Htheprogrammer 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I disagree with #14. You shouldn't be using lambdas as arguments to map and filter, but functions not created just for the purpose of this statement are fine. A lot of people don't know you can pass goodies from the `operator` module(such as `itemgetter`) and unbound methods(such as `str.upper`) as the first argument.

  • @DrDeuteron
    @DrDeuteron 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No 4: yes! But....your method names are nooby. If an object writes to a file:
    def write(self, fdst).:
    wrapped with:
    def tofile(self, filename):
    Methods are verbs that tell you what they do. Not sentences: separation of concerns.

  • @yaseen157
    @yaseen157 ปีที่แล้ว

    Big fan of this channel. Can't tell you the number of times I've revisited the args, kwargs, /, and * video! #pycharm

  • @Higgsinophysics
    @Higgsinophysics ปีที่แล้ว

    omg you actualy a solved a python issue I am currently facing lol. Always a greeat watch. Thank you :D

  • @bombase991
    @bombase991 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Never knew about Python getters and setters having special properties so that will be my next amendment I have to make for my existing project #pycharm

    • @DrDeuteron
      @DrDeuteron 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      don't forget about "@attr.deleter" too.

  • @adabamas
    @adabamas ปีที่แล้ว

    I noticed you used single letter variables in the example prior to your point about not using single letter variables.

  • @vuvu7005
    @vuvu7005 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sometimes, even after 8 years of python, you have some nooby habits :) . As always great video !

  • @ramon421
    @ramon421 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool, I've done some of these in the past, will try to remember to use the better way :D #pycharm

  • @RichardFeynman2282
    @RichardFeynman2282 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My favorite series is back again! #pycharm

  • @nikocraftde
    @nikocraftde ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really cool video, as always! :) #pycharm

  • @lethalantidote
    @lethalantidote ปีที่แล้ว

    I want to make all of my junior engineers watch this video. Especially after the round of code reviews I went through today

  • @grawss
    @grawss ปีที่แล้ว

    On #5, searching for answers gives some mixed messages, where the immediate evidence is that += is faster than the alternatives in most cases due to some python interpreter trickery, but in testing it's pretty clear that io.StringIO is substantially faster. For 50,000 appends I get 0.00428s using perf_counter, and with StringIO I get 0.00299s. That enormously faster.

  • @mihaitranda8228
    @mihaitranda8228 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great tips, man! One of my favorite channels. Keep up the good work. #pycharm

  • @user-xv6cj1gl8w
    @user-xv6cj1gl8w ปีที่แล้ว

    Good luck in your path of learning
    and a #pycharm license would be nice, yes

  • @alistairboyer
    @alistairboyer ปีที่แล้ว

    9: Some weird audio from the other side during this one from me? Maybe the ghosts like single letter variables.
    13: d = {key: val for key, val in d.items() if not val % 2 == 0}

  • @dinofish3262
    @dinofish3262 ปีที่แล้ว

    Been waiting for a Mooney habits vid for a while #pycharm

  •  ปีที่แล้ว

    For iterating and delete, I often just iterate the copy of it. d.items().copy(). Therefore, I dont need the second loop and the copied object will be deleted after loop anyway, so memory ussage should be the same.

  • @seasong7655
    @seasong7655 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I didn't know about the divmod and String io. Those are some good tips 👍👍

    • @DrDeuteron
      @DrDeuteron 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      you got to know the builtins.

  • @dkkoala1
    @dkkoala1 ปีที่แล้ว

    A "nooby" numpy habbit is also doing inp = np.array(inp) at the beginning of a function to ensure that the input is numpy for the rest of the function. This is bad because the np.array() operation actually makes a new copy of the array even if it is already a numpy array, so if there is a lot of data it will take some time. #pycharm

    • @DrDeuteron
      @DrDeuteron 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      time to refactor.

  • @loic1665
    @loic1665 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice!! When's part 3?? 😂

  • @ThePowerRanger
    @ThePowerRanger ปีที่แล้ว

    Didn't knew about pathlib, this video is going on my playlist #pycharm.

  • @davidkolesanov9328
    @davidkolesanov9328 ปีที่แล้ว

    7:03 But what if I want to use the "+" operator? Then, wouldn't I HAVE to implement the "add" dunder method, instead of just a regular method?

  • @yoavsigler4457
    @yoavsigler4457 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm a noob and I've been using os.path to handle paths, how bad is it as opposed to using pathlib?

    • @0LoneTech
      @0LoneTech ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not very bad. Path objects include the context that they are paths. For instance, path / subpath instead of os.path.join(path, subpath), and you can read an entire file with path.read_text(). pathlib is implemented using os.path and friends (path._flavour links to os.path, posixpath or ntpath).

    • @yoavsigler4457
      @yoavsigler4457 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@0LoneTech thanks! what are the benefits of learning pathlib, then?

  • @Phaust94
    @Phaust94 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for the video! Agree on most points, but I do like map and filter though. It feels like I should switch to Elixir though.
    And thanks for organizing the contest! #pycharm

  • @nagarajurepala
    @nagarajurepala ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the #pycharm giveaway!

  • @gradientcube
    @gradientcube ปีที่แล้ว

    I appreciate these videos. May as well try my chances with #pycharm

  • @qazerty
    @qazerty ปีที่แล้ว

    comment = "#pycharm /n"; while True: comment += "don't add strings! /n"

  • @murphygreen8484
    @murphygreen8484 ปีที่แล้ว

    #pycharm
    "... That tech job you somehow got" oof, felt that!
    Great videos though, these videos never fail to help!

  • @Max-mx5yc
    @Max-mx5yc ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your channel! Have you considered making a video on 'async for' and 'async with'?

  • @dustindustir521
    @dustindustir521 ปีที่แล้ว

    some of these are things no nooby would actually do.
    Only a dev that wants to be fancy would make the mistake to create an expensive property.
    Noobs dont know about propertys.
    Sometimes more experienced devs write less readable code.

    • @mCoding
      @mCoding  ปีที่แล้ว

      Fair but I guess it depends on your threshold for what you consider a noob. I've seen many new devs copy code from SO and end up with very expensive properties.

  • @kawaiikiller7042
    @kawaiikiller7042 ปีที่แล้ว

    The amount of times I've used s += text with thousands of documents. Totally explains the high memory now. #pycharm

  • @haowang2002
    @haowang2002 ปีที่แล้ว

    I didn't know that raw strings could be used for more than just regex, so much time could have been saved. #pycharm

  • @EvanBerkowitz
    @EvanBerkowitz ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you make a video about #pycharm itself? Why should I find it exciting?

  • @TonyHammitt
    @TonyHammitt ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice one, I got a kick out of a lot of those. Remember back when we all were n00bs?

  • @Nerdimo
    @Nerdimo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    6:30 I actually faced this recently with a project I’m working on. Do they both do the same thing under the hood (same byte code) or is one preferred over the other for different reasons? (In reference to using functional functions like map or filter over comprehensions).

  • @sawcondeez
    @sawcondeez ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the named tuple part. TIL about that #pycharm

  • @mihaitranda94
    @mihaitranda94 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for yet another super useful and interesting video! #pycharm

  • @Regic
    @Regic ปีที่แล้ว

    #11 I don't actually like @property, when someone creates a setter it usually has a side effect. If I'm looking at where it is used, `obj.x = something` it is really surprising when I find out that this does something more than just changing the x variable. But if I see an `obj.set_x(something)` that immediately raises the alarm: `set_x()` probably does something more - why would anyone bother to write this function otherwise?
    I suppose if your setter really has no side effect it is safe to use property, but in my experience that is rare (maybe you want to log where it changed or something like that, it's fine). Usually however, it re-computes related values or notifies other objects that a value has been updated - you should be aware of these.

  • @che_kavo
    @che_kavo ปีที่แล้ว

    When I've just started to learn python, my mentor forced me to use filter, map, reduce etc. List comprehension always seems more readable for me #pycharm

  • @snorklewacker
    @snorklewacker 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Definitely enjoyed this, and picked up some great tips! I have to say, I’m not a fan of main() as a construct. __main__ is great, but then having it just call a main() to do everything feels unnecessary unless there’s a really good reason, and then the person importing your code has to weed it back out to avoid pulling it in. (Plus, if I’m being honest, main() feels a bit too Java-like. :) )

    • @DrDeuteron
      @DrDeuteron 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      the point of main() is to keep code out of the if/then block for dunder main...devs should see the module end in that block and it should be short, and then they know a main() or usage() [for scripts] is right above it.

  • @simonwillover4175
    @simonwillover4175 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2:16 is more of a problem with Python than a problem with the programmer. But yeah, you should use mutable strings when each string is only used once.

  • @michaelbrown6785
    @michaelbrown6785 ปีที่แล้ว

    On generators:
    I disagree with encouraging people to use comprehension generators.
    while comprehensions are faster from a memory perspective, they reduce maintainability by a major factor and in general people tend to leverage them too much.
    filter had a use but ive never used map in py, only is js. that said, the best practice with python generators is to actually write a generator method - this is not only faster than a comprehension (only very slightly) but since your making an explicit generator function you can use logic to handle the generator and leverage next() and if needed, use async logic.
    comprehensions are a really cool feature that i wish other languages had, but i havent written one in production in maybe 4 years, and if I catch one of my team members doing so I give them endless shit.

    • @mCoding
      @mCoding  ปีที่แล้ว

      This was actually a nooby habit in my first nooby habits video, overusing comprehensions. I completely agree that not all iteration should be done through comprehensions as this quickly becomes unmaintainable and as a rule of thumb if a generator comphrehension is doing too much it should be turned into a generator function as you suggeste. However, as an alternative to using map/filter over a lambda they are a natual alternative that improves readability and therefore maintainability and in many situations a simple generator that e.g. filters out Nones does not need to be factored into a function yet.

    • @garysmith6268
      @garysmith6268 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mCoding well, in practice you are not wrong - however the ecosystem is moving in the direction of description over utility (pydantic, dataclasses etc) as such it is my opinion that for the sake of explicit definition, one should only use a comprehension when it is expressly the *best* method of achieving a result - that is to say, if the result can be a readable one liner.... even then however, perhaps its better we just declare methods. also a suggestion for your next one, explain MRO - you hinted at it talking about super class inheritance but perhaps explain why partial class inheritance is so bad and what MRO is all about. love your videos so far.
      oh re: as to filtering nones, I tend to just use and / or as ternary operators while combining with assignment operator (walrus pattern) now days - IMO this is more readable if not as pythonic

    • @mCoding
      @mCoding  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@garysmith6268 MRO video already done! th-cam.com/video/X1PQ7zzltz4/w-d-xo.html

  • @niclasvonlangermann3322
    @niclasvonlangermann3322 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much! I didnt even know about the named tuple! #pycharm

  • @CAMOBAP795
    @CAMOBAP795 ปีที่แล้ว

    Python is not my primary language but... I still didn't expect that I'm a such a noob(

  • @re.liable
    @re.liable ปีที่แล้ว

    1 kinda don't agree
    7 I'm conflicted on this one. I've been in JS land and got used to the "file-as-module" pattern(?). Now to me it seems so wasteful to define a dedicated class just so I can avoid global variables. Happy to proven wrong about this ofc. Maybe I should just embrace this instead lol
    12 the results can also be stored in a "private" variable, yes? Assuming other conditions are taken care of
    14 sometimes I use map/filter when I'm too lazy to think of a loop variable name lol. Though more often than tht I consider hsing "_" instead. Dk which is worse heh

  • @thephoenixsystem6765
    @thephoenixsystem6765 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'll defend facilitating variable rw with global instead of adding it as an input and outputting it again. In some cases, anyway, it's the same thing in shorter syntax. Problem where?

  • @jimgaluska1361
    @jimgaluska1361 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video. Thanks! #pycharm

  • @guzziiw
    @guzziiw ปีที่แล้ว

    Good point on map and filter. #pycharm

  • @pokedart9001
    @pokedart9001 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man, that behavior of and/or with falsy/truthy values is really strange - it almost reminds me of some of the type coercion weirdness that can occur in Javascript. Much as I like using Python (#pycharm) for certain projects, I definitely appreciate languages that can give compile-time errors for this sort of thing - same goes for deleting items from an iterable during iteration as well.

    • @DrDeuteron
      @DrDeuteron 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      short circuit logic reduces cyclomatic complexity.

  • @bp56789
    @bp56789 ปีที่แล้ว

    These videos are a huge help, man. Thank you. #pycharm

  • @danielulvr500
    @danielulvr500 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video! Always informative and on point. :) #pycharm

  • @pabloreydaniel
    @pabloreydaniel ปีที่แล้ว

    very helpful!!!! thanks keep up the good work. #pycharm

  • @magarnicle
    @magarnicle 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I thought str.join was the idiomatic/pythonic way to concatenate strings?

  • @danitegue
    @danitegue ปีที่แล้ว

    #pycharm Great! A bit fast, I had to stop the video to understand a few parts but in general very good tips!

  • @zw3941
    @zw3941 ปีที่แล้ว

    6:07 a lot of modules use filter and map in this way #pycharm