This JunkDojoTV episode deals with a cheat template for marking holes on whistles and flutes of any size. Thick tube walls make a difference so drill holes small and enlarge to tune
This is awesome, you have helped simplify flute calculations, i love building pvc flutes and have always dreaded the hole placement part, you have made my day...cheers
This is one of the easiest to follow and useful flute-making videos I've seen. While I don't find much use in the elastic band (mainly because I don't have 3 arms... two to hold the band and one to mark the points)... the percentages and common-sense suggestion to 'find a flute that works and check the percentages on that, and it will transfer to any flute length' is just invaluable. Can't get any more basic than that. Thank you!
Nice vid, and thanks for all the info. I figured it's also pretty easy to create a spreadsheet with the percentages in a column, and formulas, so that when you type in your 100% length, the hole positions all re-calculate for you. Just an idea.
thank u for the great advice...its really working...though i know it will take lots of duration to b a perfectionist like you...but ur advice will encourage me a lot...
❤. Merci beaucoup pour cette vidéo. Très instructive. J'ai beaucoup apprécié 👌. Personnellement j'avais trouvé un autre système qui consiste à tracer sur papier la coïncidence de toutes les mesures entre 2 flûtes (ex : tonalité A et tonalité E) et de positionner ma nouvelle flûte accordée sur le tracé de mon papier entre les deux flûtes pour déterminer le positionnement des trous. Il restait bien sûr à affiner les notes. Mais il faut un grand papier 😊. Bonne continuation.
You blasted through the most important part. Here it is written out. Thank me later. 1 - 43%, 8,6 cm 2 - 50%, 10 cm 3 - 58%, 11.6 4 - 68%, 13.6 5 - 73%, 14.6 6 - 83%, 16.6
Thank you for telling me about the book. I'm starting to study musiology next summer, and I'll combine it with physics (and material science if possible) in order to become an instrument builder.
+Apentogo I'm not sure I understand your first question. There's an entrance examination to ensure that everyone has the required and knowledge. The entrance examination consists of aural skills, singing, piano playing and prima vista. In the old days, it was also a requirement to know Latin.
+Apentogo I'm from Denmark. I got a friend from then northern Germany who studied Musiology in Copenhagen as I'm going to do. He said he couldn't get the same education in Germany. About the prima vista thing. I just got the sheet music, and then I should play it on the piano. For me this wasn't the hard part. The hard part for me was singing. Your school certification does matter. You need a "Reifeprüfung" to get in (I speak a little german, and I don't know the English for for Reifeprüfung). If too many people apply (and if too many people get through the entrance examination alive) it's just a matter of having better grades than the others. Almost no information is useless, I think. For me it helped that my father is a piano teacher. Where in Germany are you from?
Good to visit your site. I was placing the holes pretty much trial and error. I'm also making some instruments with alto sax reeds. Don't the percentages for hole placement for a 'C' scale depend on the type of PVC pipe, i.e., inside/outside dimension?? What dimensions do you use? Thanks for a response.
Hey Paul Marshall Im trying to make a PVC Fujara like yours im not sure about the holes. would it be possible if I grab a regular wind recorder and mesure it like you did and put it on the fujara the same way you did would it be right. or the Fujara holes are different. by that i mean are some holes located on the bottom for your thumbs? I never seen a real Fujara in person to pay close attention to the holes. Are they aligned straight with the sharp mouth piece. and How many holes does it have?
@commanderplyers My thoughts exactly. I've been marking it from the actual membrane or the top end of the inner pipe, and it's worked out decently, but still doesn't sound quite right.
Hello Paul..Please help me how i Make a 7 ToneHole Transverse Flute.. what's the relation between ToneHoles distance from embouchure, their diameter, bore Diameter, and frequency produced by them
Hi, may i have a question sir?! you said, we can apply this for all type of flutes,but doesn´t matters on diameter of pipe? o_O i think,it does ;-) when you start with 14mm diameter of pvc pipe and the other with 20mm , for 14mm will do for example the last hole in 93% but for 20mm diameter it will be for 94% or 92% ?! I was just thinking ... so I may be wrong ;-) so how is it of a diameter of pipe?
I believe the diameter of the pipe will just increase the loudness of the whistle. Phil Hardy for example produces a High D whistle (called "Mezzo") which is a normal whistle with the only difference being the increased diameter making it louder (and requiring more air from your blowing).
As Levy said, diameter primarily affects amplitude (volume) with the exception of a small end correction. If the tube gets too thin relative to length the fundamental won't be audible and you end up with an overtone flute. Check my other videos on overtone / fujara / kalyuka style instruments for some more info on that. These videos are over 10 years old so I would be surprised if there's not better info available by now :)
All holes open, and blow hard to get the highest overtone series. Practice by blowing lightly, then increase the air flow (blow harder) until it jumps up to the next overtone, and so on. Do this for each note (all holes closed, and go through its overtones. Then open the lowest hole, then the next, etc.)
prakash Khanore internal diameter affects volume, not pitch but there is a small end correction and you will have to adjust the size of the holes to bring it to accurate pitch. The percentages don’t change which is why the rubber band works
If you have an existing instrument (or a photo of one), simply mark the hole positions based on that. Otherwise you would need to calculate hole positions based on the desired scale. The main purpose of this method is to have a readily transferrable tool for roughing out starting positions and then you go on to fine-tune the individual instrument.
Yes if you take an existing clarinet, stretch an elastic from the mouthpiece to the open end you will be able to mark the hole positions. There may be an adjustment if you are transferring to a pipe because the clarinet is conical but you would work that out. If you put a clarinet / sax mouthpiece On a short whistle you create a xaphoon of sorts which sounds like a piccolo clarinet or something. Good luck
@@abedinsubashi Sorry, your question was not clear. 1. An elastic is the blue band in the film that stretches. 2. If you wanted to change the fundamental of the instrument you need the extension which changes the position of all the holes. I'm not sure that it is possible to do what you need without major surgery on the clarinet
that rubber band idea is genius, welldone
This is awesome, you have helped simplify flute calculations, i love building pvc flutes and have always dreaded the hole placement part, you have made my day...cheers
you've got to be kidding i've spent weeks racking my brain over these lengths and here it is plain as day. thank you good man
This is one of the easiest to follow and useful flute-making videos I've seen. While I don't find much use in the elastic band (mainly because I don't have 3 arms... two to hold the band and one to mark the points)... the percentages and common-sense suggestion to 'find a flute that works and check the percentages on that, and it will transfer to any flute length' is just invaluable. Can't get any more basic than that. Thank you!
Le scotch existe ou 2 pinces... 🤔
@@yvancoissieu7390 Yes. I used regular masking tape, which worked well. To date I've made about a dozen flutes and the tone is remarkable.
Nice vid, and thanks for all the info. I figured it's also pretty easy to create a spreadsheet with the percentages in a column, and formulas, so that when you type in your 100% length, the hole positions all re-calculate for you. Just an idea.
Great time saving tool you came up with. I'll give it a try.
thank u for the great advice...its really working...though i know it will take lots of duration to b a perfectionist like you...but ur advice will encourage me a lot...
Many many thanks for all your videos, smart, short and effective...not forgetting funny and well made !
A sliding scale marker for a flute template! Thanks for the help!
❤. Merci beaucoup pour cette vidéo. Très instructive. J'ai beaucoup apprécié 👌. Personnellement j'avais trouvé un autre système qui consiste à tracer sur papier la coïncidence de toutes les mesures entre 2 flûtes (ex : tonalité A et tonalité E) et de positionner ma nouvelle flûte accordée sur le tracé de mon papier entre les deux flûtes pour déterminer le positionnement des trous. Il restait bien sûr à affiner les notes. Mais il faut un grand papier 😊. Bonne continuation.
Great vid! How do you define the tune of the whistle? Is that even possible? I'd like to make a C whistle. Thanks
I did a shout out to you on my latest flute log entry. I used your method and I worked great. Thanks :0)
Brilliant.
Thank you very much for sharing your genius with us.
5 stars!
Namaste!
Ah , what a blessing. Thank you
what about the diameter?
Nice Explanations
You blasted through the most important part. Here it is written out. Thank me later.
1 - 43%, 8,6 cm
2 - 50%, 10 cm
3 - 58%, 11.6
4 - 68%, 13.6
5 - 73%, 14.6
6 - 83%, 16.6
Clever. Thanks!
I made a bambuba (bamboo tuba) and am debating whether to make holes. This will be useful if I do.
Thank you for telling me about the book. I'm starting to study musiology next summer, and I'll combine it with physics (and material science if possible) in order to become an instrument builder.
+Apentogo
I'm not sure I understand your first question. There's an entrance examination to ensure that everyone has the required and knowledge. The entrance examination consists of aural skills, singing, piano playing and prima vista. In the old days, it was also a requirement to know Latin.
+Apentogo
I'm from Denmark. I got a friend from then northern Germany who studied Musiology in Copenhagen as I'm going to do. He said he couldn't get the same education in Germany.
About the prima vista thing. I just got the sheet music, and then I should play it on the piano. For me this wasn't the hard part. The hard part for me was singing.
Your school certification does matter. You need a "Reifeprüfung" to get in (I speak a little german, and I don't know the English for for Reifeprüfung).
If too many people apply (and if too many people get through the entrance examination alive) it's just a matter of having better grades than the others.
Almost no information is useless, I think. For me it helped that my father is a piano teacher.
Where in Germany are you from?
Good to visit your site. I was placing the holes pretty much trial and error. I'm also making some instruments with alto sax reeds.
Don't the percentages for hole placement for a 'C' scale depend on the type of PVC pipe, i.e., inside/outside dimension?? What dimensions do you use?
Thanks for a response.
Good video
Fantastic video. Thank you.
Ok! And how is the percent for another scales, like southamerican or oriental pentatonics. Thanks. Gracias. Xcuse my english.
which is note A,B,C..
how did you make that other flute and how do you play it?
where do i measure from when making a membrane pipe?
Thanks a lot 😊
Cheerz from southamerica dude
thank you for the explanations! Cool video!
That was slick.
Great thank you!
Hey Paul Marshall Im trying to make a PVC Fujara like yours
im not sure about the holes.
would it be possible if I grab a regular wind recorder and mesure it like you did and put it on the fujara the same way you did would it be right. or the Fujara holes are different. by that i mean are some holes located on the bottom for your thumbs? I never seen a real Fujara in person to pay close attention to the holes. Are they aligned straight with the sharp mouth piece. and How many holes does it have?
Ok sir, thanks for reply,
what is the inner diameter
Can a large inner diameter of 30mm piece of bamboo be used what ajustments would have to be made
anyone know
Is there a template for the pipelenght aswell?
Many thanks for your help
thanks good bless for you
Very good!
Thank you for the nice vid.
rc
veri good i´m dònt know the use of the book , thanks
@commanderplyers My thoughts exactly. I've been marking it from the actual membrane or the top end of the inner pipe, and it's worked out decently, but still doesn't sound quite right.
muchas gracias amigo!
thanks very good video!!
Where do i get the book Air columns and tone holes?
If you get it , plz tell me also...i cant find it on the internet
Hello Paul..Please help me how i Make a 7 ToneHole Transverse Flute.. what's the relation between ToneHoles distance from embouchure, their diameter, bore Diameter, and frequency produced by them
thanks sir. It really help a lot. . . Sir. I want to make E bass scale indhan flute pls give some suggetions. Again lots of Thanks
Hello sir
I also want to make e base i need help
do you have the percentages for a 8 hole recorder?
GENIUS!
try to use the Flutomat, google it, its an java utility.
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How do you drill it?
Hi, may i have a question sir?! you said, we can apply this for all type of flutes,but doesn´t matters on diameter of pipe? o_O i think,it does ;-) when you start with 14mm diameter of pvc pipe and the other with 20mm , for 14mm will do for example the last hole in 93% but for 20mm diameter it will be for 94% or 92% ?! I was just thinking ... so I may be wrong ;-) so how is it of a diameter of pipe?
I believe the diameter of the pipe will just increase the loudness of the whistle. Phil Hardy for example produces a High D whistle (called "Mezzo") which is a normal whistle with the only difference being the increased diameter making it louder (and requiring more air from your blowing).
As Levy said, diameter primarily affects amplitude (volume) with the exception of a small end correction. If the tube gets too thin relative to length the fundamental won't be audible and you end up with an overtone flute. Check my other videos on overtone / fujara / kalyuka style instruments for some more info on that. These videos are over 10 years old so I would be surprised if there's not better info available by now :)
Point 0 is the fipple edge of the flute.
how do you play the highest note?
All holes open, and blow hard to get the highest overtone series. Practice by blowing lightly, then increase the air flow (blow harder) until it jumps up to the next overtone, and so on. Do this for each note (all holes closed, and go through its overtones. Then open the lowest hole, then the next, etc.)
Hi sir, Percentage of fingerings holes also depend on inner dimeter of flute? Thanks
Prakash
prakash Khanore internal diameter affects volume, not pitch but there is a small end correction and you will have to adjust the size of the holes to bring it to accurate pitch. The percentages don’t change which is why the rubber band works
@@marshallartsmedia thanks
How would I compensate the markings if I wanted to make a Melodic Minor or an Egyptian scale? Would that be possible with this technique?
If you have an existing instrument (or a photo of one), simply mark the hole positions based on that. Otherwise you would need to calculate hole positions based on the desired scale. The main purpose of this method is to have a readily transferrable tool for roughing out starting positions and then you go on to fine-tune the individual instrument.
Paul Marshall
Perfect! Thank you very much! :)
thats what she said...
Dammit to hell. How far does the first hole go from the frigging Mouthpiece?
That's not important, it is the distance from the sharp fipple edge to the holes that matters
What if I did something similar on clarinet?
Yes if you take an existing clarinet, stretch an elastic from the mouthpiece to the open end you will be able to mark the hole positions. There may be an adjustment if you are transferring to a pipe because the clarinet is conical but you would work that out. If you put a clarinet / sax mouthpiece On a short whistle you create a xaphoon of sorts which sounds like a piccolo clarinet or something. Good luck
1: no idea what an “elastic” is. 2: I plan on making an extension for it so it can go from low E to low C. How would I do that?
@@abedinsubashi Sorry, your question was not clear. 1. An elastic is the blue band in the film that stretches. 2. If you wanted to change the fundamental of the instrument you need the extension which changes the position of all the holes. I'm not sure that it is possible to do what you need without major surgery on the clarinet
Paul Marshall ok
I better buy the book, I can't follow your video!
43% from the point 0.