What is a Permanent Foundation? Mobile Home Investment Development Project
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John Marion describes a small land development new mobile home project. He shows and describes the process of placing a double wide mobile home on a permanent foundation to retire the title, converting the home from personal to real property.
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The foundation of the mobile home is a grid of foundation holes deep in the ground that are filled with concrete. Pillars are placed under the home using concrete blocks to give the home a level foundation to rest on throughout the the steel chassis of each mobile home trailer section.
The home is then anchored down with steel brackets which permanently attached the structure to the ground. Additionally, the wheels and trailer hitch of each section is removed.
This entire process changes the nature of the mobile home from personal property to real estate attached to the land.
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I'm planning to do the same thing in northern Florida. Bought 40 + acres that I'm planning to divide into 10 acre parcels and set up a home / home stead on each one. Bull dozers come in 2 weeks to start clearing the first site. I'm very interested in sharing info on these projects. Please reply to my comment and we can set up some way to communicate. Thanks.
How is it come along with your project?
Any updates?
How’s it going
I need a nice place to live how’s it coming ? I’m thinking it’s not.
The suspense is killing me.... 😂😂
I'm located in Oregon and would love to as other questions since I'm planning to buy land and set up a mobile home.
I would like to know the numbers, how much did the mobile home and land cost you all in and what kind of return did you get?
I don't know about that foundation...I'd feel better if the foundation was around the perimeter also instead of just in sections underneath...I'm thinking it will start to sag in areas of the floor over time...or settle and just be lopsided...
That's why owners should level their homes every few years, regardless of the foundation type.
that's what mine is doing mine is bigger than that one also but it's separating from each other in the middle water changes direction and goes under it washes blocks out causing them to lean some of mine were set right bit not all of them were gonna cost alot to get someone to go under there and fix it
The chassis is designed to be supported at the points where the foundation pillars are installed. The perimeter of the chassis is not a foundation support.
Is it common to run into square footage minimum requirements? I see this done a lot with double wides; not so much with single wides.
Dunno about where you are but that would not pass as a permanent foundation in Illinois. All mobile homes have to be tied down with some kind of device that bores into the ground but that does not make them permanent.
that's why foundations are built to code in each county
Can you explain more please. I’m here in Illinois and I’m wanting to buy a mobile home and place it on my land as a permanent foundation. Also, what type of device is it called?
I have to do a foundation thanks this helps alot because I'm doing it myself
Here is more info on what we did: Footers are poured and the blocks are placed on the footers. The structure rests on the pillars at points that are engineered to support the home and the structure is tied down and attached to the land. This is part of what is required to meet the standard of being on a permanent foundation according to HUD. A structural engineer is required to inspect and certify that the work has been completed property. The perimeter of the house is not intended for support of this type of home the way it is engineered. The skirting around the exterior of the bottom of the home is both cosmetic and serves the purpose of keeping wildlife from getting under the home.
Permanent foundation you pour a footer and then you slender block it up to the bottom of the mobile home that might be permitted for his area but our area will not allow that to pass as a permanent foundation unless Footers and cinder blocks are put in around the entire perimeter
Footers are poured and the blocks are placed on the footers. The structure rests on the pillars at points that are engineered to support the home and the structure is tied down and attached to the land. This is part of what is required to meet the standard of being on a permanent foundation according to HUD. A structural engineer is required to inspect and certify that the work has been completed property. The perimeter of the house is not intended for support of this type of home the way it is engineered. The skirting around the exterior of the bottom of the home is both cosmetic and serves the purpose of keeping wildlife from getting under the home.
Pro tip. Get a gimble for your phone. It will greatly improve you video quality. other than that nice video.
Nevermind I thought this was Alabama not Georgia 😂
Jasper? Or Manchester?
How is it decided where utilities are placed on property? Is it before house is designed, placed on land?
Is a slab considered a permanent foundation? This foundation is good for water to run through it. This foundation is local code, nothing better?
Would a VA Loan Lender consider this a permanent foundation?
Does it matter what type of tie downs you use and does it have to fixed to the ground a certain way to make it a permanent home?
Yes, it has to be bolted into the concrete pads to be considered a permanent foundation
Footers are poured and the blocks are placed on the footers. The structure rests on the pillars at points that are engineered to support the home and the structure is tied down and attached to the land. This is part of what is required to meet the standard of being on a permanent foundation according to HUD. A structural engineer is required to inspect and certify that the work has been completed property. The perimeter of the house is not intended for support of this type of home the way it is engineered. The skirting around the exterior of the bottom of the home is both cosmetic and serves the purpose of keeping wildlife from getting under the home.
😂 some one will hate when that water heater breaks. Nothing like having to uninstall the hvac system to remove it from the back of that closet.
This is exactly how my home is same model the water heater broke 2 weeks after moving in brand new
for projects like this are done, is the things like plumbing electric and such done after placing the home? since its not flat on the ground
I have always wondered this
Yes!
Hi I wanted to know how much would it cost to put down a manufactured home on a piece of land it only has Dirt on the land very small space and needs the power to be Connected to the home and needs the Sewer Connections to be put on the home in Southern California info thanks 🙏
Hi, did you end up getting an answer… I am in California and thinking of doing the same thing
The costs are specific to each region and area.
I wonder if it's the same process for a tiny home or shipping container home.
It may be similar. Here is what we did: Footers are poured and the blocks are placed on the footers. The structure rests on the pillars at points that are engineered to support the home and the structure is tied down and attached to the land. This is part of what is required to meet the standard of being on a permanent foundation according to HUD. A structural engineer is required to inspect and certify that the work has been completed property. The perimeter of the house is not intended for support of this type of home the way it is engineered. The skirting around the exterior of the bottom of the home is both cosmetic and serves the purpose of keeping wildlife from getting under the home.
@@alphadoginvestments thank you for explaining that!
I’m just a lay person but that looks flimsy to me. Like it come toppling down.
It is engineered and installed according to specs.
Can the permanent foundation of a manufactured home be covered with siding to bring the home's siding all the way down the home?
Didn’t know if anyone knew , BUT a veteran can get a VA loan on a manufactured home, there are added expenses, which is a permanent foundation meaning concrete around peraimter and from side to side and tied down .
They make decorative vinyl skirts that look like stone or what ever you like.
Here is what we did and yes you can make the siding / skirting with just about any material you want. Footers are poured and the blocks are placed on the footers. The structure rests on the pillars at points that are engineered to support the home and the structure is tied down and attached to the land. This is part of what is required to meet the standard of being on a permanent foundation according to HUD. A structural engineer is required to inspect and certify that the work has been completed property. The perimeter of the house is not intended for support of this type of home the way it is engineered. The skirting around the exterior of the bottom of the home is both cosmetic and serves the purpose of keeping wildlife from getting under the home.
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The water pooling around the home would worry me. That home will settle and need to be releveled the more water the worst it is. Besides its on rhe low side of a hill.
Where are u at .
North metro Atlanta.
Where is it located?
Jasper Georgia
Why does insurance companies don’t insure these as a homeowner’s policy after a certain age?
Do insurance companies stop insuring the home after a certain age even though the home was established as real estate when it was new?
It's still not that valuable because it's still a mobil home. Sure the industry lobbied to change the terms but it's still a state by state process.
When it is converted to real estate the value of the property goes up.
Them single blocks on top of each other who ever did that should be fired they wont stand the weight I'm going thur this right now as my mobile home is separating from each other I also live in north ga
This is a professional install of the double wide, meets HUD standards, and certified by a licensed structural engineer.
#100!!!!
I just don’t like the land! I hate the hill in front of the house!
Agreed, terrible location.
The property was sold to a buyer who has equipment and understood the need to maintain the drainage on the land.
Shady is what you are man i dont know you but everything you just showed people is wrong and gonna cost them more money in the long run once you get paid the home owner is stuck with this to deal with remove this video man or i will keep on commenting
Incorrect. The foundation has been inspected by a structural engineer which qualified the title to be retired by the county. This transformed the home from personal property into real estate. This process and certification in turn qualified the end buyer to purchase the property with an FHA mortgage loan as their primary residence. This is the perfect and best way to set-up double-wide manufactured home.
they can call it a house or what ever they want but the fact is the way they laid the block and set it up is not gonna last once the buyer buys it they gonna be stuck repairing it later on
@@sherryhowell8697they don't care about the plights of little ppl like the average home owner, they only care about their bottom line, once they sell for double of what this home is worth, they have no further thoughts or concerns about the horrible financial struggles that the average homeowner, who is just trying to have a safe home for their families, we all know this, this is the way of the system we live in😔, these investors cld care less because it's not them or their loved one's, they know full well that they themselves wld never live in these homes yet they will try to convince you of how amazing it is, granted some are setup really nice and stable and can last a lifetime, but certain ones like this one, is literally the cheapest home on the market, price wise and the quality of materials used. It's an ugly world we live in
Please invest in a tripod for your camera. It's quite annoying watching the jerky picture.
They no longer call them Mobile Homes, they are by FHA/HUD standards called Manufactured homes.
They technically start out as "mobile homes" but are manufactured to HUD standards and can be called manufactured homes. When they start out, each sections has an axle with wheels and a tow hitch attached to the structure. After they are on location and place on the foundation, the tow hitch is cut off with a torch and the wheels and axles are removed and hauled away. Once the structure is tied down and certified that it is completed correctly by a structural engineer, the home can then be converted from personal property to real estate attached to the land. The manufactured home at this point is then eligible to be purchased by a home buyer using a traditional mortgage loan.
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ou missed the point of the comment. This was never a mobile home. It is a manufactured home maybe you should read the HUD rules to learn what you are doing. @@alphadoginvestments
@@richardcampbell9225says the guy who has no face / no content and is ultimately proving to be just a keyboard warrior. Well done! You’ve only proven yourself to be an NPC telling others what they need to do for their profession over SEMANTICS 😅.
@@mEgA_riLed technically any mobile home built after 1976 is a manufactured home or modular home. Slight differences in them.
These people are just trying to justify the outrageous cost of their factory made trailers that will come apart in a storm the roof of all trailers are the cheapest made part of it its not even 2x4 truss
In california, it's called a 433 foundation. Merges the home and land into one APN vs. having two APN's
Apn?
@@Cdllifestyle assesors parcel number. It's for property taxes
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If this were my home the foundation would be over engineered. It would be a solid slab of concrete with rebar. Holes would be cut through the beams and the home would be tied down with steel cables.
Footers are poured and the blocks are placed on the footers. The structure rests on the pillars at points that are engineered to support the home and the structure is tied down and attached to the land. This is part of what is required to meet the standard of being on a permanent foundation according to HUD. A structural engineer is required to inspect and certify that the work has been completed property. The perimeter of the house is not intended for support of this type of home the way it is engineered. The skirting around the exterior of the bottom of the home is both cosmetic and serves the purpose of keeping wildlife from getting under the home.
Look like it’s been place next to a possible land slide
Notice all the water standing in the vapor barrier, this would not be acceptable in our county. A suitable French drain needed to manage rain water since this particular home seems to be placed in a bowl.. this is definitely a base model.
Yep they did it as cheap as possible so they can rip off a hardworking American for their profits 🤦🏽♂️
Love the video, and absolutely the best info!!!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
The original owner that set my place up added block around the bottom years after his purchase. I want to pull the block out because it's wack ! My dad was twlling my if I do that it won't be considered " permanent ". The house was sold like th is home in the video. Mine definitely has straps.
Watch all 38 videos and counting of NEVER BUY A CLAYTON MANUFACTURED HOME on TH-cam and see if this is what you had in mind
I’ll check it out.
I've watched that series and honestly whoever built, delivered, and setup this guys home screwed up royally from the factory to the installers, i have a clayton home, built by the same factory as this home in the video, TRU factory, and has had zero issues with my home in over 10 years, i really think it boils down to the builders of his home at the factory at the time as well as how his home was installed, they did a terrible job all around
to the insurance company it is forever considered a mobile/manufactered home. And good luck getting refinance or home equity loans! I can't find any company that will....
Not true sir, my manufactured home was purchased brand new, converted to real estate tied to my land, after my upgrades and landscaping curb appeal my home has appreciated nearly double what i paid for it😱, it's a beautiful home now, with alot of equity in it and i wld have zero issues whenever i chose to refinance which i get tons of offers on doing so😊
investment knowledgeable, no common since on proper good foundations for these homes, bare minimum shortcut city!
Incorrect. The foundation was setup by the mobile hone dealer according the HUD specs and a structural engineer came and certified everything was completed properly.
Common "since"? Wow, you should delete this comment bruh.
Buy project east? I'm Disability. I like get east mobile home .I seek own . this double wide larger then my 900square ft single home . I like seek in Double wide wow like Room.
1.500square ft wow nice size. Likebi deal East in Houston. Relocate tomball or plaintervill.
Hi I am interesting for buying mobile home and turn it into permanent home in my property, do you have contact information for the home manufactured home dealer?
Search for a mobile home dealer in your area. I’m in metro Atlanta.
Looking for investors? Land ?
Wouldn’t it be better to not have the mobile home considered real estate, for tax reasons?
The main reason to convert it to real estate is that the property becomes eligible for a buyer to purchase using a mortgage loan. Additionally, the personal property tax on a mobile home goes away when it is converted to real estate.
how old can a mobil home be to be able to get permits and the certificate of occupancy in los angeles California.
That’s a question for the local planning and zoning.
How is sanitary handled?
A septic system for a 3 bedroom house was installed.
Great video!
This foundation totally sucks, and this guy is completely clueless.
Can you explain?
Yea I seen foundations like that but they do pass coding in Georgia
Its bulshit I can explain it for you water standing underneath it and the block is not stacked right you always use under even a single wide double block stacked holes up and staggered to make it solid and wedge on top for the level part sick of seeing people done wrong repost a video of it done right man you dont know what your doing or you would of not posted this poorly done job
Hmmm, i live in tornado ally, in a manufactured home on a permanent foundation, we've had terrible strong tornados and my home suffered no structural damage 🤔
Do you know if manufactured homes can be turned into modular homes?
They look pretty much the same but are built to different standards and cost a lot more. A manufactured home is completely built in a factory normally comes in a couple large pieces and placed on your property. A modular home is brought in many pieces constructed on site and permanently attached to a regular foundation like a stick home. So they have to be constructed originally to what they are going to be.
Great idea! I wonder if anyone is doing this in BC, Canada
this will change your property tax to a much lower rate to I believe
Unless you live in New York State, then you will be double taxed.
@@D70340 everyone I’ve talked to that’s done this has dropped property tax cost. Because the mobile is no longer considered personal property. It’s now real property.
The personal property tax goes away but the real estate value goes up.
@alphadoginvestments very true, before i added my manufactured home to my property which was initially raw land, my property taxes were $114 a year, after my home was considered real estate and all of the upgrades to home and property, my property taxes shot up to $1,400 per year but my home and property has appreciated nearly double
Hi I bought land in Sparta GA and I’m interested in putting a manufactured home to rent out. Can you help?
This is probably the cheapest manufactured home on the market, in price and quality of materials
I need your help! What is the best way to get in touch!?
Call or text me at 703-371-9548
Thank you!!
Did you have to get a builders permit, and was there certain contractors you had to have ? I'm asking because I'm in the process of financing a manufactured home now...
Yes you must have a permit first because some counties will charge you double if you set the home up first then try to double back
What happened if there's a mud slide and it rolls or fall down in the back
The home site was the site of a previous single wide mobile home that was there for many years. The site is stable. Here is what we did: Footers are poured and the blocks are placed on the footers. The structure rests on the pillars at points that are engineered to support the home and the structure is tied down and attached to the land. This is part of what is required to meet the standard of being on a permanent foundation according to HUD. A structural engineer is required to inspect and certify that the work has been completed property. The perimeter of the house is not intended for support of this type of home the way it is engineered. The skirting around the exterior of the bottom of the home is both cosmetic and serves the purpose of keeping wildlife from getting under the home.
And the bank right there this place is gonna wash out the block is gonna wash out underneath and there shit is gonna do just like mine is doing thousands of dollars to fix this foundation in just a few years from now these people are gonna have to pay for i woukd remove this video if i was you
There was a trench that was cut at the bottom of the hill with a drainage system. Footers are poured and the blocks are placed on the footers. The structure rests on the pillars at points that are engineered to support the home and the structure is tied down and attached to the land. This is part of what is required to meet the standard of being on a permanent foundation according to HUD. A structural engineer is required to inspect and certify that the work has been completed property. The perimeter of the house is not intended for support of this type of home the way it is engineered. The skirting around the exterior of the bottom of the home is both cosmetic and serves the purpose of keeping wildlife from getting under the home.
Alabama and Georgia are trailer states I seen hundreds 💯 everywhere aren't these two states tornado prone . Are any special codes required?
Modern manufactured homes, as they call them now, meet stricter standards and must be attached to the land for the home to be classified as real estate (converted from personal property to real estate once the home is attached to the land). This must be done according to certain standards. This is what we did: Footers are poured and the blocks are placed on the footers. The structure rests on the pillars at points that are engineered to support the home and the structure is tied down and attached to the land. This is part of what is required to meet the standard of being on a permanent foundation according to HUD. A structural engineer is required to inspect and certify that the work has been completed property. The perimeter of the house is not intended for support of this type of home the way it is engineered. The skirting around the exterior of the bottom of the home is both cosmetic and serves the purpose of keeping wildlife from getting under the home.
Nice mobile home but I would never wanna move it there around a whole lot of trees I always look at hurricanes knocking down trees on houses and makes me nervous
That's the xi2 tie down system. How many of those should should be under the home, or is there one for each end?
There was at least two tie down locations, one at each end. Here is what we did: Footers are poured and the blocks are placed on the footers. The structure rests on the pillars at points that are engineered to support the home and the structure is tied down and attached to the land. This is part of what is required to meet the standard of being on a permanent foundation according to HUD. A structural engineer is required to inspect and certify that the work has been completed property. The perimeter of the house is not intended for support of this type of home the way it is engineered. The skirting around the exterior of the bottom of the home is both cosmetic and serves the purpose of keeping wildlife from getting under the home.
Why not a cement foundation pad with footers?
Footers are poured and the blocks are placed on the footers. The structure rests on the pillars at points that are engineered to support the home and the structure is tied down and attached to the land. This is part of what is required to meet the standard of being on a permanent foundation according to HUD. A structural engineer is required to inspect and certify that the work has been completed property. The perimeter of the house is not intended for support of this type of home the way it is engineered. The skirting around the exterior of the bottom of the home is both cosmetic and serves the purpose of keeping wildlife from getting under the home.
It's not a permanent foundation
Footers are poured and the blocks are placed on the footers. The structure rests on the pillars at points that are engineered to support the home and the structure is tied down and attached to the land. This is part of what is required to meet the standard of being on a permanent foundation according to HUD. A structural engineer is required to inspect and certify that the work has been completed property. The perimeter of the house is not intended for support of this type of home the way it is engineered. The skirting around the exterior of the bottom of the home is both cosmetic and serves the purpose of keeping wildlife from getting under the home.
Let me know morw ,please, thanks.
Here is what we did: Footers are poured and the blocks are placed on the footers. The structure rests on the pillars at points that are engineered to support the home and the structure is tied down and attached to the land. This is part of what is required to meet the standard of being on a permanent foundation according to HUD. A structural engineer is required to inspect and certify that the work has been completed property. The perimeter of the house is not intended for support of this type of home the way it is engineered. The skirting around the exterior of the bottom of the home is both cosmetic and serves the purpose of keeping wildlife from getting under the home.
Good luck getting an equity loan though
Why would you want to get in debt on a property you purchase? You need to watch some Dave Ramsey or something because borrowing against your home is madness.
@@matthewphillips5483that's facts, long-term debt is for suckers
nice!
Where would you go to retire the title?
Go to the county or city to the office where taxes are paid for mobile homes. They can explain the process of retiring the title and converting it from personal property to real estate permanently attached to the land.
hey let me know how bad you think i got ripped off 230k for this exact home with 3.2 acres, has a well.
Where I live, a home on 3.2 acres for 230k would be a steal.
Damn, i got the 5 bedroom version of this home, manufactured by TRU homes, i paid $90k for the home, but i already had my own land which is only 2 acres
@khadijahdavis1572 I was thinking of something like that but I was I'm a time crunch expecting my second baby didn't want to keep renting. Everything about the home and location is exactly what my wife and I wanted 😌 ☺️
@albertoanguiano7191 that's awesome, then it's well worth it congratulations on your new home and your new little life😊, many many more blessings to come
Hello i have a question my father owns land in Moticello GA and wants to put a house on it there is no electric no water what steps needs to be done to get this 8 acers livable thank yo for this video its exactly what we ae wanting to do
You would have to call the city and have them drill a line to the nearest water city line. Or if you live too far away from the city then you'll need your own personal well. That's going to be your water source.
@@Ryu_Kage. Thank you if you know of any one that i could get an estimate it would be deeply appreciated
@@sinarenesapartmentstead1802 You will also have to get the power company to run a power line and they may charge for that. Then you will probably need a septic system.
The first thing is contacting planning and zoning at the county to see if mobile homes are permited in the area. If approved first order of business in getting the home set up you is site prep work done for where the home will be placed. Next you will need a power pole for electricity. Then you will need a water supply which would be tying into city or county water supply. If none are available you will need to go to the county health department and apply for a deep well to be put ln your land. County will come out and test your land to see if its suitable for a well and septic tank. Next you will need to think about waste disposal. You will need to connect to the city sewer system or have a septic system put in to supply the home. To save on those out of pocket expenses you need to try to get all those costs rolled into your home loan. All of that can run upward of $10 to $12,000. And thats how it goes. Best wishes to you on your new home! 😀👏👍
There is no such thing as a permanent foundation! Any building can be picked up & moved anywhere!
Not true mam.
@@ernestinestarling3902 then name me some!
@@ernestinestarling3902 stick built houses get moved all the time .
We Know what he means 😏
We had a flood and there was a guy that moved two houses
Scary the house is held up by cinder blocks. Not much structural strength.
Any building can be moved so there is no such thing as mobile home . The only reason to have deep foundation is for basement otherwise there can be many types of foundations with footings only or just set the home on railroad ties.
Very thankful I found this video. We need your help! Need to convert our manufactured home into a modular home per a CCNR we weren't aware of. What's the best way to contact you? We are GA also. Tysm, God Bless.
Here are more details of what we did: Footers are poured and the blocks are placed on the footers. The structure rests on the pillars at points that are engineered to support the home and the structure is tied down and attached to the land. This is part of what is required to meet the standard of being on a permanent foundation according to HUD. A structural engineer is required to inspect and certify that the work has been completed property. The perimeter of the house is not intended for support of this type of home the way it is engineered. The skirting around the exterior of the bottom of the home is both cosmetic and serves the purpose of keeping wildlife from getting under the home.
@@alphadoginvestments😂 gotta love 'copy and paste'
@@khadijahdavis1572 actually after 45 times it tends to be a bit annoying 😆😆😆
@nwicconsultants6640 lol i can totally understand brother☺️, still a gr8 video, thank you