Vintage Adult Cartoon from 1940s Post-WW2 Era - US Navy - SAILOR AND THE SEAGULL
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- Rare classic cartoon aimed at urging WWII US Navy Sailors to reenlist in the military following World War Two.
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From the US National Archives
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Prior Navy here.
There's not nearly enough drinking and STD's to make this an adequate portrayal of the real Navy. Also, the seagulls have pirate accents.
***** Kinda like nearly every other navy? Bro you put thousands of guys on a ship for months on end, in a small space, in the middle of a ocean, they're not gonna be on their best behavior. I mean a good example of that is the russian navy, british navy, german navy, etc.
***** was Bergdahl one??
Best comment I have ever read in my life. What's your address? I'll gladly drop coin for a plane ticket just to give you a high five.
The original one, but yours is in close second.
Michael Turner !.?😬😬😬😬😬😬😬 😃
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I'm not saying I'm for or against military service but the moment you knew you fucked up as an adult? When you started taking life advice from a seagull..
true.
lol xD
The gull outside my br window thought that was funny. Perfect timing. Gwaawk!
Grimmjow Jaegerjaquez You should try eating seagull. It's got that delicious taste of chicken left out in the backyard in a plastic bag for a month in the summer time. I'd rather listen to a seagull than eat one.
TheSWolfe it's telling you to join the navy
Average rent in the city at that time was about 50 bucks? Jesus, 50 bucks today can barely buy groceries.
That was New York City. Average rent on an apartment in a blue collar New England town in the 50's was about 10 bucks!
+Dude with the Tunes If you paid attention he only made $300 for the month (approx $3000 today) so $50 (approx $500) for a one bedroom apartment is about right.
When he was in the Navy he was making the equivalent of today's $900 the difference was (and still is today) when you're in the military you don't have to pay for rent or groceries or any of that stuff the military takes care of it all for you so your $900 is literally just money for you to play around with and get drunk basically unless you have kids which is another ball game..
+Skeptnick Somewhere down the line we got screwed.
***** And we should have put a big tarriff on them to favour home grown industry. Especially if they treated workers worse than us.
Instead we (capitalist corporates) embraced it and it broke our society.
+taledarkside Not over tax, but over taxing the wrong people and bailing out banks too early and without consequence. People can wine all day about wanting a doctors salary, but that doesn't mean you have to give it to them.
If we taxed monopolies (which are illegal anyway - I'm looking at you Walmart) instead of taxing regular working people it would help people a lot more. Especially if you put the pressure for people wanting raises on the monopolies themselves. It's as easy as if your company makes over $___ billion a year and you have at least ___ employees you have to pay raised tax, but if you pay your employees more you have less tax. Government incentives would've made it so they never had to raise the minimum wage. They could've let big business settle that out themselves while in turn helping out little companies with the tax money if people didn't want to pay their employees (because from what I've seen small companies tend to take good care of their employees no matter what the law says just because they want their employees to be happy. It's big corporate businesses that are assholes)
$90.00 in 1945 is about $1,170.00 today adjusted for inflation.
Now edit it for current inflation
The moral of this story is: YOUR LIFE WILL SUCK NO MATTER WHAT
Unless you're born rich like a Hilton or a Kardashian.
At the time of WW2 it was chinda how life was.. Cant wait for the rematch for WW3.
+Urbaaniapina Life is still like that.
At least they had cheap rent. And 9am-5pm isnt so bad, if he told the insurance salesman to F off and did a few extra hours time to time he would be fine.
I don't want salvation or eternal life. I want money, in order to survive and to help other people...
This is amazing. As propoganda for the Navy it's great but as propoganda for a government/society of america it's fascinating. The united states government commissioned these ads that essentially deeply criticise the daily life of it's citizens. It shows how fully aware it is of the average man's disenfranchisement and struggle, as seen by the protagonists stint in civilian life. What other government would actually reveal it's knowledge of how much of a struggle daily life is under it's guidance? This is amazing.
It's not critical of civilian life, it's a cartoon take on contrast between civilian and military responsibilities and benefits. Of course, it carefully omits the "put your body between the enemy and home" issue, but for anyone in the military that's already understood. I do agree that it's not something you'd see in other countries....or today in the US for that matter.
Back then, nobody had the socialist idea that the government was responsible for civilian life, or taking care of everyone, or creating a good quality of life for everyone, or even keeping a 'safety net' in place for those hit by disaster. All that was understood to be the individual's own responsibility..
So the contrast being presented here was the difference between civilian life with NO government help, and military life where the U.S. government is looking out for you, because you're working for the government. Of course, a socialist would look at all that, and say "well, why not do the same thing for civilians"?
But socialism has pretty much failed everywhere it's been tried, because it reduces people's sense of individual responsibility. There's a documentary here on youtube about the failure of socialism and various socialist movements throughout history. I don't have a link handy, but you could search for it.
"Back then, nobody had the socialist idea that" lol OK
Sophie L'Ange Well, the socialists had that idea, of course.
But almost nobody else was paying attention to them. That was before the marxist infiltration of our universities, starting in the 60's. After that, college students were indoctrinated with socialist ideals without ever being informed that that's what they were.
***** Just give it time, and it will become obvious to them too. They're already in slow decline. There are degrees of socialism, so it can fail quickly or slowly, depending on just how bad it is.
FWIW, I would say that unbridled capitalism has its own problems too. (Mainly that it's horrible for the environment and animals.)
Some kind of "mixed economy" seems to be the best compromise.
Employment that quickly? A chance at a pension? Being able to sleep in until 7 AM? Sign me up for the 1940's!
I spent 3 years in the Navy, 2 of them working in the engine room as a Machinist Mate. Life aboard ship is hard work, especially for Engineering Division. The guy in this cartoon was an E-3 seaman, who would see the Engine Room only if he did something really bad and was sent there to work a few hours as punishment. They don't send Engineering up to work quarterdeck duty as punishment.
Notice also that the video makes a reference to the civilian having to buy his own clothes. I've had hints that in the old days, the military used to issue clothes to the enlisted. Not so anymore! Even in boot camp, you have to pay for your own uniforms. Because you don't get money until long after you've gotten your first uniforms, the military takes it out of your first paycheck.
I know what ya mean. I was an Engineman in A-gang for a few years. Of course the Deck Apes had their own headaches but at least they got fresh air doing their jobs.
Backfromthedeadguy A-gang? So you were a fresh air snipe. You'd have some cred if you were M-Division, but A-gang? really now...
grathian The only time our job took us outside was when we had to do PMS on the diesel engines on the rhib boats. Other than that almost all auxiliary systems were inside. And considering a lot of equipment/systems are the responsibility of A-gang (like WATER) I'd hold back on the insulting tone.
I was an E3 Deck Ape and we made patrols through the engine room underway.
@@rpm371 The Engine Room was shown to you as a warning!
Yes, you too can have a lasting career in the Navy. As long as you: Don't have a record, don't have any kind of physical impairment, don't have opinions, are smarter than 90% of the country, don't get killed on you tour of duty, and you don't crake under pressure. If you fall into any of the above then you are doomed the horrible, futureless existence as a normal civilian. Have fun.
No, about half of the things you mentioned the Army will take you where the Navy won't. And note that this was a Defense dept. production aimed at those who were already enlisted.
William Porter not true at all! Hahaha!!!
To any sailor who keeps America's coasts secure, I say thank you for your works and all the hardships you folks have endured. May abundance and prosperity come to you folks in a form that is similar to 3:15 - 5:50 which is my favorite part to watch.
Frank was amazing. He wrote what he wanted. You can be disgusted, but he's a story teller. Not everyone wants to hear every story. That shouldn't limit stories. Always amazing musicianship!
What's the best thing to do with $90.00 bucks? "get drunk" Some things just don't change!
+Johnny Sokko Why change a winning recipie?
Why can't I Hold all these carrots So True!
+Johnny Sokko I know right!
@Patrica Perkins like a 1000 today
In his time, 1950, $90 a week was equal to $889.73, or $900, which in a year he would make over $46,000, which is well suitable enough for a single male, even in those times.
There's one little problem with your math there. It was $90 a MONTH, not a week. www.navycs.com/charts/1949-military-pay-chart.html So he made $1080 a year. An O-5 or higher might've made near $90 a week, but I doubt this re-enlistment cartoon was made with them in mind. I'd bet McGinty was an E-2 or maybe E-3. Hell, an O-10 would've only made $11000 a year!!
Ken Garlitz Oh, I thought he implied it was a weekly thing. Huh. never mind then.
Ken Garlitz Dont forget that back then, as now, sailors and soldiers dont have to pay rent or a morgtage. Enlisted pay always looks barebones until you remember they dont have to pay for food or board
My grandfather made $50 a month in the 1940's working in newspaper advertising, and that put food on the table, clothes in the closet, heat and electric, and the house payments for a family of three.
He'd been a Sergeant in the Army (Artillery) before WW2, but I don't know if he drew a pension at the time, or if he did, how much.
Ken Garlitz
He had E-3 stripes on his arm.
The premise of the cartoon seems to be: if you're too lazy and incompetent to endure civilian life, you belong in the armed services. Evidently the Navy guys financing the work weren't much on subtext. "Ah-hyuk! Funny voices!"
+steveasat2 I think the point is that civilian life is not such a paradise as you may imagine. It does have advantages (your own place, higher pay), but you have expenses and responsibilities in civilian life that enlisted people do not. Essentially, re-enlisting may not be such a bad idea.
It's a fairly simple premise, but telling it visually locks it in. Of course, it's told from the viewpoint of the Navy so it may be a little bias, but even the bird in the cartoon admits that he works for the Navy.
+Neil Wick I went from Army to an office job, boy i'll tell ya, the Expenses of being a civilian are worth being free of all the bs the army will put ya through.
Pandasiah I don't doubt that civilian life is worth it. This was just the Army trying to give their side of the story.
+douglas “Ansury” wahid I've also heard a lot of tales from older friends about brothers of cousins who got in trouble with the law and were more or less told to enlist or go to jail. Military service as a suspended sentence! The fact that this might also be a death sentence probably violates the 8th Amendment.
So instead of saying how great it was to be a sailor, they talk about how shitty it was to be a civilian?
This is a film to get people to re-enlist. They already know it's shitty being locked on a boat for weeks or months at a time.
I've been a civilian, I've been a Marine. Give me that sweet sweet civilian life. Although, being on a boat was fun.
plane15man
Most people at that time would agree with you but this was made to push those on the fence about it over to the navies side. Also got to think about the era this was made in and made for. Now a days you can with the training you are able to get in the navy come out and get a good paying job while back then the training that could transfer to civilian life was hardly there and the jobs coming out sucked.
plane15man how long were you on a boat as a marine exactly?
I think it was supposed to be a "Grass is greener" or "you don't know what you have until you've lost it" ordeal, but eh.
claps hands, makes the girls disappear. Claps hands again, two navy guys show up. Yup must be a sailor
hahahahaha :D
*Insert Lenny Face*
sign of bad taste? Service should be with a smile. Only one smiling is shunter Mc Ginty. Or barge or tugger whatever it is. only thing I know is don't pull on it too hard.
lmaooo
And then there was the sequel...being shot at by German 88s, divebombed by Kamikazes, floundering in oil-slicked waters or drowning in the lower decks of a torpedoed battleship. I never knew civilian life was so rough! Oh, and another thing...the morning alarm set for 7:00??? I WISH!!!
How the hell would those kamizakes (they were usually mitsubishi A6M5s, no?) be equipped with 88mm triple roll artillery or torpedoes??
o.O
Hmmm...looking over my comment to see where I said Kamikazes carried 88mm guns...nope. can't see it anywhere. I see where I said the Germans used 88s, I see where I said Kamikazes dive-bombed ships, but I can't see anything about them being combined. I can't see where I said they carried torpedoes either. I guess you must be responding to someone else.
Of course, between the time this animated short was made and 1977 when I joined the USAF, things changed, A LOT. For example, the implication that the military paid to income taxes. I paid Federal AND state income taxes. I also had to pay for my uniforms, my shoes and boots, my meals, etc. The only thing I didn't have to pay for was housing, as long as I lived on base. I guess Uncle Sam decided that they were giving too much to the military and they wanted some of it back.
Remember those warn bonds that people were encouraged to buy to fund the war effort in the 40's? They worked great-until the war was over and people started cashing them in. Oops.
Daniel Ryan
That's one of the dirty little secrets of the National Debt. A significant portion of the National Debt is US Savings Bonds. If the government, which taxes us to death as it is, stopped selling Savings Bonds, the National Debt would go down. That and borrowing from our enemies, Communist China for example.
drivernjax
You obviously have no clue how our debt works, nor have you ever cashed in a savings bond. :P
Hmmm....I joined in 1982. I paid for my uniforms, but received a clothing allowance. I had a meal card for my meals...or paid for them when living off-post, but received BAS. I had post housing... or paid to live off-post, but received BAQ. I paid Federal and State taxes (when appropriate), but got exemptions from them when deployed to a war zone.
Sounds like someone doesn't know how things really worked...but it has been a long time since 1977, so perhaps memory is just faulty.
Joe Stutler
I misspoke when I said I paid for my meals. When I was in Japan, we had a chow hall and we didn't pay for our meals there. But, when I was in California, we didn't have a chow hall.
This is a goofy potrail of civilian and navy life but, we must admit that after the military draft was ended in 1973 in the USA. The youth of this country went downhill and, it hasn't stoped yet. One thing young ones learned in the service was dicipline which seems to be greatly missing nowdays.
That is an incredibly broad generalization of today's youth.
Prashanth Panicker
That's exactly what it is, if you check the statistics, the adolecents of today are more prone to disrespect authority and break the rules and,eventhough there is nothing new under the sun, you read like a good and polite youth and, I hope Im not wrong. There should be lots more like it.
Cuxo Peon-Rios
actually crime statistics have fallen quite a bit from the 1950s. also, I don't necessarily think disrespecting authority is a bad thing, what if the authority is corrupt?
robokill387
There has to be at least some kind of order or structure, otherwise it becomes anarchy. We can go and on and on, on this issue and, I can see your point and you may see mine. And, as I'm stoned I won't go into a typing jiu-jitsu so, Buenas noches.
Cuxo Peon-Rios I think the biggest problem comes from the lack of proper disciplining in schools rather than a decreased military presence. Too often schools never give out appropriate punishments for actions and as a result are often taken advantage of by students. Rules don't need to be strict, but they need to be enforced.
Okay I'm sold. I'm joining the Navy.
I love you XD
+400KrispyKremes : The Village People agree!
This is hilarious. The first 2:30 still accurately portray attitudes in the Navy. The nice thing is that once you get out it actually is really sweet. And all of those negative portrays of civilian life are actually negative portrayals of military or Navy life. Waking up at 2 AM and having to shave (well for guys anyway)? Navy life. No personal space? The Navy. Policing bosses? The Navy. Tedious work for 15 hours a day? The Navy. Long lines for food, mail, laundry, etc? The Navy. Misleading pay, bonuses, and taxes? The Navy. And when you get out the VA and the shoddy education benefits are waiting for you.
Could this be Fry's great grandfather?
no, because his great grandfather predated WW2.. This was a 1940's cartoon and Fry's grandfather was in the Army at the time during the development of the A bomb.
xIegionx
While the animated character appears in his twenties, you do realize they "recruited" 30 to 40 year olds in WW2 too, right?
Not to mention: considering how insane/ perverted/ idiotic the Fry family line has been, who is to say that he didn't knock up his first girlfriend or have sex with an older woman (ie his grade school teacher)?
Let's say he's 25 in this cartoon. In ROSWELL THAT ENDS WELL, Enos was probably @ 18. Roswell happened in 1947, so there is your date to go by. That would mean Enos would have been born @ 1929. If GGF Fry (in cartoon) is 25, and this is a recruitment ad in 1942, he would have been born @ 1917. That would mean that Enos would have to have been born when GGF Fry was 12.. which is messed up, but this is the Fry family we're talking about.
Of course, there's another possibility: GGF Fry joined the military in 1942-43, got injured in battle or some stupid accident, and "Enos" is the result, which would make Enos between 24 to 30 years old (if GGF Fry joined when he was between 19 to 25 years old), which would in turn mean that the cartoon character above IS the Grandfather, not the Great Grandfather... and now I've gone cross-eyed.
Heh heh... tuu tuu (that would be a "3 paragraph before" joke).
Monroville You know some shit bro...
Monroville
Quite simply, Fry's grandfather was in a different timeline.. And also he was killed since Fry altered it. :p
It shows 1949 at the end. I think this was post war to keep guys enlisted. My Father would have been the ships projectionist (volunteer) and would have played it until they traded during the mail mail transfer while at sea. I saw this at age 3 on film at the recruiter office. Dad (Auston Melton)was stationed in Shelbyvile , Tennessee at that time. The building is now the town Library after being the post office for years. I remember him mention me to note that he was responsible for the films and was the man who showed the films. On of my first memories I can pull up.
2:25 It's Shrek!
check yourself before you shrek yourself
+PokeDude011 found you again!
+Genos Blond Cyborg r u rose quartz
shyguy 101 Princess Bubblegum, but Rose Quartz is a good idea for my next profile picture. :D
+PokeDude011 OMG! Shrek is everywhere!
Man, those girls are really hot.
+metal87power Yeah, man! The belly dancer has to be the best one, because her dances are mesmerizing!
Andrew Steiner quite realistic.
Totally!
ikr
+metal87power *whistle* You aint kidding; but then you gotta think, all of those girls is either already dead or someones grandma. Spoils the fun, dont it?
Those harem girls are some of the sexiest things I've ever seen in a cartoon.
Hotshotter3000 Me too, and i think that makes them the most memorable and enjoyable part of this cartoon.
I served in the army. What this cartoon doesn't show is the value of comradeship. Sure the pay is crap but you cannot put a value on comradeship. I've never found this in civvy life
I am glad we are being protected by cats
soisyourface1234 ya they even let zebras in the navy.
actually i'd pay from my own pocket for highly trained cat ninja marines...
The best we can do is when we stumble across other vets.
So you were a commie?
1:23 Todays standard the would be $876.89
But if he said 19 instead of 90 that would be $185.12
The Imperial Combine Which is about what I make lol
how do you know that? cause if I made that shit I wouldn't be complaining at all. I'm not being a smart ass I just really wnna know how you calculated it to that
+Nathaniel Cole Inflation Calculator: www.calculator.net/inflation-calculator.html
+The Imperial Combine well if he could pay the insurance & other things like the barber and grocery's and rent he would make on today's standerd 4872 $ ... clean on the hook...
So, if I was him I'd stick to the factory job + you won't get killed that way...
Average Joe divide that by 4 and hes earning $1000+ a week
I love that there's a pinup model just lounging around at the front of a factory.
Seagulls are assholes.
+Digscomics Y' don't say!
+Digscomics While I was up in Boston a whole flock of them dive bombed me for my sub and made me drop my 3DS.
Dennis Taylor When I was on holiday, they'd always try to dive bomb me when I was eating an ice cream. What was quite fun was to cover up the ice cream when they started to go into the dive because then they'd be all "OH SHIT MISSION ABORTED PULL UP PULL UP!"
You're just saying that because you envy the carefree lifestyle of a seagull.
Seagulls fly through the air with grace and beauty and their cries echo with resonance on the ocean breeze. But they can be really ruthless, rapacious, thieving varmints close up. So "assholes" may not be too far off the mark.
How very disrespectful of you , how can you call all older people worthless, without them you wouldnt be here running your mouth on you tube about things you obviously do not understand.
It sure as hell depend which old people we are talking about. But since you talk about the internet, I asume you talk about either westerns or asians.
Hijinxx Q
Ok boomer.
The dancing woman part was interesting. That, in it's true form, is what men find attractive. Wide child-bearing hips, a thin waist and nice features. Amazing how women of today have convinced themselves that looking like a 12 year old boy is attractive, and on top of that convinced themselves that it's man's fault the social norm has swayed that way.
Ancients PvP You do realize that the skinny body is not the shape found attractive now its the kim kardashian curvy big butt big boob body right?? The 12 year old shape was the last decade, 2010+ is curvy.
Ancients PvP Yeah, what were those women thinking, not looking the way women appear in cartoons?
mustafa ahmed at least you're honest
Ancients PvP CURVES ARE SEXXXY , MORE CURVES ARE SEXIER!!!
2trkpony No kidding.
The great thing about the service has always been that most of your overhead is taken care of. No grocery bills, no medical bills, no utilities, no rent. As long as you can live with the strict hierarchy and getting bombs tossed at you it really ain't so bad.
$90 in 1945 is $1185.56 in 2016.
I don't think you get how money works. Money loses value over time in a process called inflation. So $90 back then would be worth much more than $90 now.
+Noah Nesbitt exactly
***** No... I don't think you get it.
+Noah Nesbitt
That's what DisProveMeWrong said. When money loses value you need MORE money to pay for something even if the value of the product is the same
For example if something is $1 in the past and money loses half its value in the future, one dollar would only be worth half as much in the future so you would need to pay two dollars instead of just one
+Noah Nesbitt
DisProveMeWrong is saying that getting $90 in '45 is the equivalent of getting $1185.56 now. I.E 90 Dollarydoos back then would get you a top-of-the-range TV the same as 1185.56 dollarydoos would get you a top-of-the-range TV now. I don't think you get how sentences work.
10:30 "I am chief of propaganda departament!"
I was in the army for five years, and despite all the difficulties in the civilian world, I have to agree with thee sailor's original decision! Civilian life is much better! Yeah, there are responsibilities and expenses, but to manage them on my own made me feel prouder than anything in the service.
What... kind of person doesn't know what civilian life is like?
I'm curious as to what the target audience of this video was exactly?
A lot of kids enlisted in the armed forces straight out of high school -- age 18, or even 16 or 17, if they lied about their age. Teenagers didn't know what it was like to work at a job, answer to a boss, punch a time clock, pay bills, ride on packed buses, etc. Teenagers in every era have tended to assume that their parents live like kings and queens, enjoying oodles of power and luxury, and not having to answer to anyone.
That's why teens are so eager to grow up and become adults -- because they imagine it's a life of fun and ease, where you can do whatever you want.
So, really, this film was probably aimed at those who had never had an adult civilian life; and that might well have included most of the young men in the military at that time. They would be in their early twenties, and had originally enlisted when they were in their late teens.
geezusispan "the military counts on their nativity.."
Oh, definitely. They won't take anyone before they've been born -- and even then, they make them wait for another 18 years before they can join up. ;-)
Katrina Payne Um, okay, those in this thread that wish can rail against "teenage indoctrination" all they want. The target audience here is those leaving Navy service post WW 2. It's not a "recruitment" film, it's a "re-enlist" film. He's never wielding a gun geezusispan, never once does he "man the guns" on the ship either. He's already in the Navy and has had time to serve several years, so he's no longer 18 either. And we know he's in the Navy long enough to become jaded with the life (working for his "lousy" $90 which was good money in the time period), and he probably joined the Navy fresh out of high school, as he has no idea of what civilian life entails. Interestingly though, McGinty does seem to have a sense of Entitlement, in that he thinks civilian life he's the big shot that even his civilian boss will give him big pay for lounging around and not showing up for work. That is, until he becomes a civilian and sees how hard working life really is. So we can infer from this that people in their 20's in the US have had a sense of Entitlement for big pay for no work since at least 1945. I know that's a broad brush, but so's the cartoon. So to recap: 1. Re-enlistment driven cartoon. 2. not geared towards teenagers. 3. McGinty is at least in his early 20's with no concept of real civilian life. 4. McGinty thinks he can get big money for no work. 5. Some people watching and commenting on this cartoon have a problem with critical thinking and accurate critique.
Dee Duran lol
Nate Shumway Yeah, you'd have to be an idiot to think this was a recruitment film for high school kids.
Some perspective for those of you who were not alive in 1949. The war was over but industries that were part of the war effort were not back to a full civilian economy. Married men were getting preference in hiring as was needful and the average American worker was taking home less than $90 a week. If the choice was between remaining in the Navy and going home to uncertain prospects, re-enlisting may have seemed a good choice. Going home and living of Mom and Dad might not have been an option.
That twist ending! Never saw it coming!
that main st is awesome at 9;20 ....I can remember downtowns lookin like that as a kid......now its all strip malls, very few places still have the old touches and neon anymore
What they are doing at the beginning looks like an accurate depiction of navy life. Minus the singing. And the happiness.
WW2 US Navy Propaganda Film - The Sailor and the Seagull
"WW2 US Navy Propaganda Film"? You do know that WW2 ended 4 years before the making of this cartoon?
LoverofLiszt
and? a lot of propaganda is released after the event to ensure continued support and to make non supporters change their minds
perter2duhbomb This is not propaganda. It's a training film encouraging reenlistment. This has nothing to do with the event of WWII, if that's what you mean by "event". WWII had long been over. This is simply a film encouraging enlisted men to reenlist. God only knows what you mean by "non-supporters", since you don't know what propaganda is or the difference between the WWII era and the postwar era.
tenagnek "since you don't know what propaganda is"
Funny you should say that.
Definition of propaganda:
"Propaganda is a form of communication aimed towards influencing the attitude of a community (sailors) toward some cause or position (to reenlist). As opposed to impartially providing information, propaganda, in its most basic sense, presents information primarily to influence an audience (to reenlist). [P]ropaganda can be put to uses that [are] generally benign or innocuous, such as public health recommendations, signs encouraging citizens to participate in a census or election, or messages encouraging persons to report crimes to law enforcement".(..or to convince sailors to reenlist.)
Training films train you how to do something. Training films that "train" you to act in the governments' best interest is called "propaganda".
As for his comment, technically nothing he said was inaccurate, since he didn't specify any details. Propaganda films ARE sometimes made after the fact. I see nothing in his comment that suggests he "doesn't know the difference between wartime and post-war". All I see are clues that he didn't actually watch the video.
tenagnek I won't call this world war 2 propaganda, but this did come out when the navy and the army were recruiting for the Korean War.
Served 10 years in the US Navy. I would call this cartoon straight up propaganda,
This is more appealing to me than most of the modern adult comedies on abc family. I like vintage cartoons because they're funny, creative, cheesy, odd and they include double innuendoes so they can be sexy for anyone and not just for a certain age. This actually seems innocent compared to a lot of modern shows because it includes humor for adults without younger viewers taking any notice of the innuendoes. I guess my point is: When sexual humor is hinted at, instead of being overly explicit, it makes it all the more sexy because overdoing it would get old. Sure, cartoons like this had males fawning over females and what not, but at least they never actually got in bed with them like they do in shows of today. Plus this was in the Golden age of Hollywood when females were portrayed as being innocent and sexual at the same time. It's sort of the "tease but it won't go any further" kind of deal.
this is the most honest and realistic recruiting film no patriotism bullshit just pure real life problems.Which many soldiers choose join army because of thoose.
That's a pretty good civilian life for ex-navy after WWII, at least he could pay the bills. Most of his shipmates wouldn't even have jobs after discharge.
Can't do jack with $90 lousy bucks now c:
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Snot Nose Right?
+ChickenRamen maybe fill the gas tank
J Doe Maybe
+ChickenRamen IN 1949 $90 is equivalent to $876.89 today close to what an E4 makes every 2 weeks.
Noted that the cartoon sailors in this film are sporting sleeve rate marks, which were introduced when the services were unified under the Department of Defense (DoD) in 1948, and the 1949 production date on the end card means this is a POST-WW2 era film...
Aye, civilian life is tough, but you ain't risking your neck in a war.
Produced by UPA (United Productions of America). Daws Butler voiced the seagull.
I think he was referring to your Grandparents. Or perhaps the war vets. Or maybe all the doctors and scientists working out cures to diseases
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Having been in the Navy during the 90's I can tell you that not a lot has changed in the challenges McGenty has to manage. This is a spot on reenlistment peice. It could still change the minds of young people today if they watched it.
LOL, thought it was going to be a Popeye cartoon at first.
same
I love seeing these comments about, "what I got from this video..." The cartoon was released in 1949. That time is a completely different world than what it is now. Not saying we don't have our own issues now, but comparing the two as equals is as idiotic as listening to a talking seagull...
$50 rent for a home? thats really cheap
+BratzSamuel2005 It's about $490 in today's money
Herr Schmidt I pay like $700 in rent for having two room.... Denmark is expensive.
+BratzSamuel2005 I used to pay $700 for a 2 bedroom apartment out here in 'murica, so maybe it's not just Denmark haha
Herr Schmidt
I only have one bedroom and one living room and a small bath room for that price.
+BratzSamuel2005 Lol... i wish $700 was the price we pay here.. its $1099 in New hampshire.. :( and thats without anything included
While I'm sure military life was not all that rosy during that era, the cartoon predicted the future workplace to a tee :D
Ya know, I think the beauty standards back then were just as unfair as they are today, but gods do I love the beauty standards of that time... Some of the things back then were pretty great, I think. If only we could combine the best parts of different eras.
this guy was a seaman striker, he won't make much til he makes petty officer. I served 4 years, and they offered me 10 grand and another stripe (chevron) to reenlist. I gained 70 pounds from drinking and coud'nt pass the physicals anymore. great life if you want to stay a batchelor for the next twenty years.
+Ray Bergeron Ah. you were a striker... so you didn't even have a job in the navy. Get over yourself dude.
+JgHaverty. hey fuckface, I was commenting on the video, an innocent comment at that, you brain dead piece of shit, you obviously didn't read the whole comment, I said the guy in the cartoon was a striker, did you even serve, do you even know what a striker is, I was a 3rd class machinist mate petty officer. I don't usually comment on you tube videos because there's always some asshole who's got make a comment. hey you drew first blood with that stupid comment.
so what's the message: _'you're screwed either way'?_
+Boris B The grass is always greener on the other side I suppose.
+Boris B I've watched it once more, but.... could the message be: _'don't sign up for anything'_? (which is kinda weird, for a navy propaganda vid)
THe best reenlistment lecture I ever heard was a simple statement from a Top Sergeant, 'Remember, there are MILLIONs of civilians out there, and NO ONE is in charge!' LOL!
Lmfao after taxes and deductions you are left with PEANUTS LMFAO
IT WAS HIM
IT WAS THE FUCKING NAVY SEAGULL THE WHOLE TIME
HED BEEN PULLIN THE STRINGS ALL ALONG
SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEIT
Basically saying be a slave is better than being free
I'm pretty sure a lot of people enlisted in the Navy after seeing this. The USN showed people in that cartoon that the Navy pays for everything and in civilian life you make little or no money to spend on yourself and bust your ass as work while not making any money. And showing all the multiple stores and shops you have to go to and pay for must have really sold it. I'm enlisting in the Navy and when I saw this I kind of found it fascinating how they drew the service dresses so perfectly.
I like how the first thing he want to do with his pay is getting drunk.
That's actually pretty accurate XD
The *20th century* was a decade that began on January 1, 1901, and ended on December 31, 2000 (191st to 200th decades)
The *195th decade* was a decade that began on January 1, 1941, and ended on December 31, 1950.
I wish I had stayed in ,would've had a pension. I've been a civilian and survived two layoffs, a cheating ex wife and still have a school loan twenty years after I graduated, no retirement funds, no bank account and in debt up to my eyeballs.
+Ray Bergeron Totally the navy's fault right?
+JgHaverty. I wasn't complaining about the Navy, I was complaining about getting out, and I wasn't blaming anyone but myself for my bad choices, but I bet thats what you do.
Ray Bergeron Look, you served, and thats more than a lot of people can say they've done with their life time.
That said, veterans get too many benefits to not abuse. You should have taken advantage of the GI bill; i believe you would have gotten the montgomery gi bill. Veteran job placement opportunities, scholarships for veterans without gi bills, all kinds of stuff exist to help us get ahead in life. Hell, we even get preferential treatment for being unemployed on a job interview (thanks to obama's veteran tax cuts).
I love this cartoon about a Navy soldier who complains all the time and wantsta get outta that military lifestyle and enjoy the civilian life for a while until the seagull comes along and takes him back in the Navy at the end. Happy Veterans Day!
This was definitely aimed at sailors. Trying to get them to reenlist by convincing them civilian life wasn't all that great.
The Navy didn't need to persuade sailors to re-enlist during the war!
Things haven't changed a bit since the 40's
Nope that lady is still hot as the equator!
I love the signs at the 3:00 mark. "No dancing allowed" and the extremely helpful one "television"
This is back when "gay"meant happy.
poodtang1 oh the navy had a lot happy men at the time some of them even got to stay in SF for a time
+poodtang1 back then people didnt have hiv or diabetes and could fuck without a condom
+75lexluther ...and have babies, don't forget!
jurisprudens
sex without condoms was the best
+poodtang1 Considering how the guy at 0:43 is working that pole, I'm not so sure...
See's Seagull and says 'who are you?' the correct response should be 'AHHH AHHH AHHH....TALKING SEAGULL!!!!!' lol
So, the government knows full well what civilian life is like. Almost as if it's engineered that way.
I am retired US Navy. I liked it.
YVAN EHT NIOJ
+Isamu Lucas simpsons :D
Let's not forget the superliminal message: "HEY, YOU! JOIN THE NAVY!"
!oN
Okay, if you say so
These cartoons are my prefers.I remember for my childhood days in Hungary when I wached the american cartoons with my brother.Thanks so much, I love it!
Title and description are wrong. This was made several years after WWII ended.
Unless the title is changed, it is not wrong It says post-WWII. (That would be after.)
"United States Productions MCMXLIX" - 1949. It's in the film.
(Nobody reads anymore...)
It also says it at the END of the short in the bottom right-hand corner. Sheesh.
So it's weird that the flick should be portraying civilian life as it does, because if I remember right the 1949 economy was roaring -- if a guy didn't like his job he could simply walk away a lot more easily than he could 10 years earlier. Or now.
Also, how was waiting in line at a cafeteria, or being crowded in a bus, all that much different from living as a bluejacket on a destroyer?
Maybe the title was changed after you made this post, but it does say "Post WWII Era".
darkwood777
It says POST WW2
You're never too young to have a WW2 flashback!
Is civilian life that much different from that of A soldier? We all wake up as much do our jobs and go back to sleep again.
Well, as a civilian you generally get to choose what you eat, what you wear, and where you go during your free time... of course, there are some restrictions, but not nearly as many as that of a soldier.
Also, depending on what field of the armed forces you join, you could die any minute of any day.
So yeah, I'd say civilian and soldier life are quite different. :/
LloydieLynn Soldier=army. So no not fields of the AF, just fields of the army.
madeline koster
Cool, not gonna remember that, though.
There are the other guys with guns.
LloydieLynn you could die anytime no matter what. I used to work making drywall studs and almost got squished by a 4000 pound metal spool that i would feed into a machine. I saw one friend at work get injured when putting it on the machine using the walk by crane sure it he didn't die but he cut his arm open real good and bled out a lot well it seemed bad because i had to clean it up. Plus I used to have to worry about steel studs getting launched at me every 1.2 seconds (the speed we shot most stud sizes out) the sound it made was loud constant and and if you didn't pay attention a stud could cut your hands open like a knife.
When it stars McGinty you KNOW it's a quality production.
they only worked 6 hrs a day
bawain Haha imagine how that Mr Gintry would fare in today's standards
Wow, this cartoon sure pictures one dystopian image of the 1940-s America…
Does the Navy know that they made the best case for socialism ever!
This could almost pass for Communist propaganda. Gotta love how socialism and big government is the big bad boogie man of the conservatives until it comes to blowing a fifth of the nation's entire budget on the biggest socialist money sink of them all, the industrial military complex.
This is probably the greatest animu of all time 10/10
This cartoon was *this* close to becoming Fight Club.
After watching 4 minutes of this. I would not have re-enlisted.
i was in the navvy, i must say... i would never go back
Dylan Car what was so awful?
GamejGear It just wasn't for me. I know a lot of people who would love the military. I am more of a free spirit. Not a big fan of authority lol
Dylan Car I may join a Navy soon ...(as an officer of course)
Dylan Car
You spelt navy wrong and you have a pokémon video, I highly doubt you have been anywhere a boat
That's always been the way - the navy is boring and routine, unless there's a storm or an engagement or shore leave, but everything is taken care of, no decisions to make on one's own - so it's been said
Id rather be a land lover than a squabby.
+godstomper *lubber*
+JgHaverty thank You
+godstomper swabby not squabby.
Thank you.
If you're afraid of dying, or don't like structure or taking orders, then you're fine as a civilian. You'll be respected either way as long as you can hold you're own.
I didn't know they made mature cartoons back in the day. This is actually real message and Kinda funny
Was that hurricane laced with LSD?
Ikr that guy was tripping balls
Well he had a bunch, check all the empty glasses. Funny though.
Wife's uncle got out of Navy about this time because he had been stationed on Guam when it was the pits for duty. He joins the Army. And is posted to Guam. He abandoned military service after this enlistment was up.
I guess this "propaganda" video seems to also be an "immediate post-college life in a nutshell" as well.
...Maybe I should join the Army after I graduate...
Graduate what? If you are already in college, stay there and get your degree so you can try and get in as an officer.
True that, OP...
CagedMonster
or an early spec.
Great Public service ad for WWII and today 12/07/2015 is the 74th anniversary of Pearl Harbor Day.While previously on 9/11 was The 14th anniversary of Patriot Day.
7:47 Just give her your phone number and say "Call me after 6", dammit!
Being a civilian does not mean working for the minimum wage and sailors also pay federal taxes. On the other hand, people are always find something to complain about if they want to.
roflmao 5:45 -- "take it off, take it off, take it off, take it off..."