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- Edit: I have a newer, better and complete version of this song so please go watch it!
The first song I heard from Epic. As soon as I knew what it was about I knew I had to animate it, because I love Circe so much. The book Madeline Miller wrote about her is the most empowering thing ever, please go read it. ANYWAY enjoy the video :D
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There Are Other Ways | Epic: the musical Animatic
Music by Jorge Rivera-Herrans @JayHerrans
Thanks for blessing us with your amazing talent. I hope to see more Epic animatics.
OMG GIGI PIN THIS
Thank you so much!! :D
IT HAS BEEN CONFIRMED EVERYONE! ODYSSEUS SAID NO TO THIS!
THIS is the only re-writing of history I approve of, that Odysseus didn't have to cheat. 😤 Like AT EVERY TURN every goddess wanted this man and FORCED him to sleep with them, meanwhile bro just wanted to get home to his wife. 😭 He literally wept every night on the beaches of Kalypso's island because of his situation. and Circe did the LITERAL definition of a quid pro quo sexual harassment.
If you search for Odysseus on Google it appears that he has 3 children with Circe 😢
I'm so happy Jay did that
IT CAN'T BE CANNON
The key word here is forced. With both Calypso and Circe, he was forced to sleep with them. As a rewriting, this is fine. This was a good way to avoid controversial themes and to trime down Circe's part, which includes a one year time skip, if my memory serves me well
hamiltion?
I have a HC that Hermes didn’t give Odysseus *quite* enough moly, and Ody still fell under her love spell despite being protected from most of her magic.
That makes sense, and there was other stuff she also could have done. I refuse to believe that Odysseus would ever willingly cheat on Penelope.
And evidently it's not intended to get that far in the show because in the one clip for this song she's doing this so she can stab him in the back, and then in God Games Athena tells Hera "Never once has he cheated on his wife," so he didn't do anything with Circe, at least not by choice.
@@fyysha
No, Calypso was after Circe
@@fictional-girl_05 Oh if thats the case then the musical got something wrong. Odysseus agreed to sleep with Circe, I dont think he ever wanted to, but he did it for the sake of his men and made Circe swear that she wouldnt harm him.
Of course, this is a fictitious story. So there is technically no "right" or "wrong" way to tell it. We all can have headcannons. Im just sticking to the original.
Have a good day ^^
@@fyysha or they just decided to change that part in the musical, make it so he never did cheat on Penelope
@@fyysha ancient Greeks had a different definition of cheating. Because it was still technically forced, do this or I won’t save your men, it doesn’t count. And even by today standards, if I was in a relationship with someone who was serving in war and the only way to save a ton of lives was to sleep with someone, I’d forgive. Lives are more important than my feelings.
Odysseus lowkey a victim once you pay attention to the lyrics and actual story, girl said “sleep with me and your friends will be free, leave and they’ll become fried bacon”.
yeah, that bothered me too
@@keeleylanigan4692bothered?
@@everythingisvision It bothered me because it seems like the sex was nonconsensual and Odysseus was coerced into it by Circe. But maybe I interpreted it wrong?
@@keeleylanigan4692 oh yeah, I’m fairly sure that’s what happened in the book mostly. The musical I’m not so sure.
@@keeleylanigan4692 most definitely was non consensual in a way. Odysseus didn’t want to sleep with her, but she had threatened the lives of him and his crew, and it was the only way to save them. Mythology is weird like that, though, it doesn’t stray from depicting rape or incest which I totally understand being weirded out by, but it’s how the original story was in most English translations.
I wish more people understood this as a song of sexual assault rather than cheating. You can’t cheat if you’re being raped and this is blatant emotional manipulation.
see, that's what I thought too but I thought I was the one misinterpreting it since I'm not super familiar with odysseus' story
Yep, Circe has all the power here. She's the one maintaining the spells, She's the one with immortality, she doesn't have to cave to demands or make fair deals if the other party is desperate and on a ticking clock. Odysseus is her puppet in this scene, even if they're pretending the strings aren't there.
Sorry guys to disagree with you but in the story we’re not talking about rape: Odysseus in the real poem accepts willingly the Circe’s proposal cause in that time it was pretty normal to do so as a man. In fact if u google it u can find that he had a son with her.
@@emmabonollo1258 I raise the question of if Odysseus can actually consent, if any mortal can actually consent when the divine is involved. You know, power imbalances and all that
@@tetragaming6332 In the poem Circe is flirtatious but let him have a choice: in fact she promises him the freedom just after “the thing with the sword and the flower” that Hermes gave to Odysseus. It would be different if we were talking about Zeus and his affairs but I want to underline that when these stories were written the idea of SA was different from nowadays. For example for a young girl, to be with a God would be a great honor specially if she would have a son from him. All I want to say is it is complex because we’re talking about a world that has a way of thinking vary far from ours. I’ll invite u to check below in the comments cause there is a comment that explains these better. Goodnight!
I love how the entire screen turns pink after Circe blows the flower into Odysseus' face, putting him under the effects of her charm spell. The fact that our boy Odysseus breaks free from it in the full version through sheer loyalty to his wife makes it a hundred times better. This is my favourite animatic for the song and I really hope we get to see it expanded to cover the full song.
Odysseus has a nasty habit of telling himself he is just a man before doing horrible things 😂
His "I'm just a man" actually hits harder when you remember that this story is full of power imbalances with Odysseus always being on the weaker end. He truly is "just a man" because what can he do against literal immortal God's when so much responsibility his pressed on his shoulder
Well, She is SA Him, 🗿
She forced him she is a rapist
Judge: sir how do you plea for the 25,000 war crimes you've committed?
Odysseus: I'm just a man
@@Axolotl_Boba_123 I mean he technically lives in the bronze age so the very concept of a war crime would not exist. Heck people probably boasted of doing things we would consider war crimes in this era
rewatching this because the new one's dropping soon
Same!
AAAA CIRCE IS SO PRETTY THE ANIMATION AND THE SCENES HBHAWHABBHAHBWBHAWBHBH GIIIRRRLLLL HE'S JUST A MAN LEAVE HIM BE HE HAS A WIFE..... BUT... GIRLBOSS TBH... Your design for her is STUNNING
being a r/pist isn't being a 'girlboss' you sicko
Hearing her sing this made me feel so sick to my stomach because she basically SA's Odysseus through coercion.
Only In the odyssey. In epic oddyseus said no to this
@@deltarunecharacter Thank you for letting me know! This makes me feel so relieved 💜
THE PIGS AT THE END!! 😂 Odysseus men be like "Why're they having a moment and we're still pigs?"
I'm In love with this art style , this is amazing .
Okay I just binged like ALL of your content because it’s all SO AMAZING! Can’t wait for whatever you cover next! Also, thanks for getting me into Epic The Musical; it is EPIC!
you improved so much!
Odysseus: i love my wife
Hermes: yeah, yeah, but in order to get home you’re going to have to basically… um… use your *body* to *entice* some goddesses who could totally kill you btw
Odysseus: fucking hell iwannagohome
i’m currently reading the odyssey in school, here are some quotes from the translation i’m reading:
Book 5, lines 151:156 “His eyes were always tearful; he wept sweet life away, in longing to go back home, since she (Calypso) no longer pleased him. He had no choice. He spent his nights with her inside her hollow cave, not wanting her though she still wanted him.”
Book 7, Lines 256:258 “Lovingly she (Calypso) cared for me, vowing to set me free from death and time forever. But she never swayed my heart.”
Book 10, lines 294:297 “She will be frighted of you, and will tell you to sleep with her. Do not hold out against her- she is a goddess. if you sleep with her, you will set free your friends and save yourself.”
When Odysseus leaves Aeaea, he goes to Circe’s room to ask her to leave. It is unclear whether or not he is sleeping in Circe’s room over the year he spends on Aeaea in this translation.
this is incredible!!! the animations are so fluid and dreamy;;;;; even when they stand still they're so expressive and .OUGH. thanks for introducing ME to a new musical!! if it can inspire wonderful artists like you, i'm sure it's.....EPIC.
One of the coolest animations I've seen!?!? I love your style, and the entire way you've charted this, it is exactly what I imagined. It's beautiful. I especially love how he turns away from her as he says he's just a man, rather than leaning in.
Athena: He’s just a man…and apparently that’s why all blood flow has left his brain. This is why I chose chastity!
Well to be fair she didn't feel he was in the wrong here because in God Games she says "never once has he cheated on his wife."
This relationship isn’t very consensual tbf
He said no to this
Say no to this? /J this is is amazing! I love your design for Circe, so pretty ✨✨
(Also I love how smooth the animatic is :]])
Not really since she is so much more powerful than him and he just wants to save his troops but can't unlesshe complies to her.
HE DODGED THE CANON EVENT!
This song is so enchanting. Love this! Great job! Your designs are beautiful! ❤
Jay knew damn well what he was doing when he put the muted slaps of the drum in the background. YOU KNEW DAMN GOOD AND WELL, JORGE.
Your depiction of Circe is so fucking gorgeous
Circe proving that you dont have to be a man to be a pig. To be completely clear to anyone somehow confused. Circe is flat out telling him that if he doesn't sleep with her his men, the men whose lives he is responsible for and who he already blames himself for getting into this situation will die. This is not Odysseus cheating. This is Odysseus being forced into the act completely against his will and this will scar him emotionally for the rest of his life. Now with all that being said the way you have drawn this is absolutely gorgeous. The way you have portrayed both Odysseus and Circe is incredible! Great job!!!
It’s simultaneously giving “It Takes Two To Tango” & “Say No To This” vibes.
Edit: petition for this person to edit this so that he’s threatening Circe w/ a fork /j
Not really cause he if he doesn't then he can't save his men. "want to save your men from the fire show me that you're willing to burn"
@@spykethespider5070 yeah, I noticed that now, as I’ve listened to this a lot more than I did 11 days ago & also gave it more thought :)
I love how everithing in her desing just scream freedom and nature
Penelope watching this
Wtf I will end you circe
Ahhh, so the Say No To This Arc comes now
Extra. THE MEN TURNED INTO PIGS AT THE END LOLLL
"He never cheated on his wife." - Athena to Hera. Bud. Babes. Honey.
Yo Circe SHREDDED 😳
then 20 years later she marries his son 😂
Is it bad that while listening to this my mind automatically goes to the songs can't say no to this from the musical Hamilton
No I get that too
I always love the end of your Epic animatics
IM RUNNING LAPS AROUND THE HOUSE
there are some accounts by other writers that Odysseus had 3 children with Circe who went to found their own kingdoms. Another account also has Odysseus unknowingly slaying one of the 3 during battle.
One of my favourites.. this is just SO beautiful !! Made me blush 🩷
Wow! This is gorgeous
I’m *shooken*
(this is so pretty oml)
Damn, girl got abs! Kinda jealous ngl
Stunning!!! This is just beautiful
"Im only human afterall" - Odysseus
i am in love
I LOVE U SO MUCH ITS SO PRETTTTTTTYYYYY
I enjoy Epic and I love your art but I really hate the romanticisation of sexual assault with this song/video.
Are the voices pretty? Sure.
Is she still forcing him to sleep with her to save his men, therefore even he said yes it would be under duress? Absolutely.
I mean tbh thats the whole point. I agree, she r*ped him. And thats not ok. But at the same time the whole vibe of the song was supposed to be like..drowsy and almost seductive ig (for lack of better word) because i mean, she is a witch
@@fyysha it could be played up more (ie make it more obvious this ain’t a good thing with sinister music in the background- ie a violin that slides in a disturbing way so that everything feels off etc).
You’re welcome to your opinion tho
@@toshi9742 hmm true, I see where youre coming from. But perhaps Jay was looking to a more playful tune as opposed to a sinister one 🤷♀️
@@toshi9742 also thats a good alternative, would love to hear that version in another world lmao
I agree that you're entitled to an opinion, but nothing about this is romanticization of sexual assault.
This song is literally preceded by Odysseus' men being kidnapped and turned into pigs and this song is about his internal conflict while being blackmailed into sleeping with his captor. The only reason the visuals here are so sickly sweet and flowery is to show how Odysseus is affected by Circe's influence. Anybody who watches this musical or has any context about the Illiad should know that Odysseus isn't doing any of this willingly. The song's lyrics and composition make it clear that Circe's role in the story is an antagonist, and a forceful temptress at that.
It's not the responsibility of the composer nor the artist to inform people "sexual assault is bad." That should be a given. Their main motivator is creative expression, not to be a moral compass on their viewer's behalf. Nowhere in this video is the message ever "coercion isn't assault" or "assault is excusable if the assailant is a hot girl." If anything, the message is closer to "men are just as capable of being victims of sexual assault" and "abusers can take any form, even charismatic and deceptively attractive ones." If people listen to this song and the former two are their genuine takeaway, that's more an indication of their lack of media literacy and reading comprehension than it is a fault of the song itself.
So when will they release the actual song?
you guys do know odysseus was loyal and never once cheated right?
i love how ive always said this is epics “say no to this” and im just now seeing more people saying it😭
And then they have three children together wahahaha
Omggg😳
I love your art style! It's amazing😍😍 what program do you use for animation?
Where did the knife go?
Ok so I use youtube music since my spotify got hacked. The issue is it mistakes animatics as music videos and augh...guess what Song was my top second. This video.
She’s fr tryna make babies after confrontation..
Circe is said to have golden eyes since she's the daughter of Helios....So I guess this scene is more enchanting in full color, and yet somehow you managed that enchantment in just pink...
@@princessazula600 that Calypso also people are allowed to like characters who aren't morally right
Y'know usually when people say "I like a character" they mean the character, not the person.
Characters are made up people serving a certain role and function in the story ffs. When I say I like Darth Vader, I acknowledge that I appreciate this figure for the tale told with it.... not because I'd love to sit down and grab a beer with a childmurderer....
@@princessazula600he same reason anyone enjoys any villain or antagonist. You don't have to agree with the character's moral compass or think that what they're doing is right to enjoy how a character is written.
Hell, you of all people should understand. Your profile is named after Azula, one of the most manipulative characters in ATLA. And yet, she's a cool character.
@@princessazula600 Same reason why your profile is that of an insane spoiled warmongering 14 year old sociopathic princess with a dose of firepower--because they're cool. Also I actually didn't say any of the stuff you brought up, you filled those gaps with the wrong cement
@Princess Azula Well, in the defense of someone who really loves Circe (I haven't fully grasped the lore in the musical, but from the animatic she's very different from what I'm used to) characters can have faults, characters can do wrong things and I think that makes them 100x better than characters who are always morally in the write all of the time.
Penelope: “dear, why do you never speak of your journey?”
Odysseus: *sweating* “I’m just a man, forgive me”
NOOOO stop😭💅
I'm dying of laughter right now 🤣🤣
Just a note in case anyone is interested in increasing their Odyssey knowledge. Odysseus did tell Penelope EVERYTHING about his travels, from when he left Ithaca until he returned. Including all about both Circe and Calypso. The only woman he didn't tell her about was Nausicaa, the princess who rescues him at the beginning of the Odyssey. Scholars have debated whether this meant Nausicaa meant more to Odysseus than Circe and Calypso or if she was so insignificant that she wasn't relevant enough to tell Penelope about.
@@custosluna8433 and the son born from Odysseus and Circé killed his father without knowing but Odysseus told him and forgave him in his dying and the son married Pénélope to rule Ithaca
@@bossbossy7149 And Circe and Telemachus also married. But these are post-Homer addictions. That doesn't make them any less canon though since pretty much all of the greek and roman mythology are historic fanfiction. However, the version I am familiar with it's Circe and Telemachus who rule Ithaca after Odysseu's death and Telegonus (CIrce and Odysseus' son) founded the city of Tusculum in Italy that was then ruled by his descendants by Penelope.
@@custosluna8433 We didn't read the same version ahaha ! But that' s cool too ! And it remain that Telemachus married Circe and Circe-Odysseus son married Penelope
I love how Circe completely dominates the scene and how Odysseus is under her sway and is begging for forgiveness and speaking of his mistakes
You love that she's technically assaulting him?
Ugh, This phrasing is horrible when you know Odysseus is a victim of a sex crime
@@tetragaming6332 what?
@sleepyangel1972 This song is dancing around Circe raping Odysseus with her divine status and his trauma as her tools of choice. meanwhile, the commentor dives straight into it using "dominates the scene" which this is, it's Circe dominating the terms and conditions of the deal while subtly telling Odysseus that she can be doing worse to him. The comment then goes on to bring awareness to his lack of power and how he's effectively drowning in his memories where disobeying a different goddess screwed him over.
TlDR: There's another song in this musical where a group of suitors talk to each other about planning to rape Odysseus' wife. This song is Circe telling _Odysseus_ that she's going to use him for sexual acts he doesn't truly want to perform, and he has to let it happen or be responsible for more of his people dying and possibly being eaten (Hermes implies in his song that the animals are edible, meaning at some point Circe has had a person turned animal cooked and let them be consumed).
@@tetragaming6332"while subtly telling odysseus that she can be doing worse to him" holy shit that's so messed up-
welp, at least I was right when subconsciously associating this song with another character I guess...
Your design of her is just, breathtaking like- HOW???
Fr
Fr, I would like her if she wasn't a rapist.
The fact that Odysseus actually does say no,says he have a wife back at home and that he’s hunted by Poseidon…
Circe actually respects it and even helps them all anyway.
The full song really subverts the expectations of what people thought that Odysseus will actually comply with Circe’s “invitation”mar just straight up gets assaulted,but just going:
Circe:Make love with me.
Odysseus:NO!
Circe:…Alright I respect it I guess.
I got questions about Telegonus tho :P
LITERALLYY
It makes a great deal of sense considering Circe's whole deal is that she thinks men are pigs. The only way she'll actually respect a man is if he proves her wrong and shows that he doesn't just think with his dick.
@@drakarraYES I’m so confused 😭
@@drakarrahonestly kinda confusing but mythology be like that
Let me guess Odysseus you couldn’t say no to this. Anyways your design for Circe is sooooo pretty, she’s absolutely stunning. I love her
Ahah a fellow Hamilton fan.
EDIT: please someone make animatic of "Say no to this" with Odysseus and Circe.
I had the same thought this is gonna be Epics version of say no to this
omg i thought i was the only one who thought odysseus looks like alexander hamilton
I think you're absolutely right in this being "Say no to this" but I think he will say no to this, because his major motivation is to get back to his wife, why would he have relations with Circe in the meantime. Also, Athena uses the fact that he has never cheated on his wife to help free him in God's Game.
Odysseus 🤝 Hamilton
Both can’t say no to this
I wish the ancient lethal Greek weapon, the fork was here instead of something as harmless as knife lol
I understood that reference.
Hermes took it for payment for getting him the molly
Da f o r k
Circe is one of my favourite Greek mythical figures and she might be my favourite character in Epic based off what I’ve seen. I’m in love with how you drew her here! Her eyes 😍😍😍
She sexually assaults him.
Literally tells him he can’t rescue his men unless he has sex with her.
Even if he says yes, it’s under duress and is therefore not consensual.
I mean, imagine if the genders were reversed and this was a guy making a woman sleep with him so her friends are saved?
the r/pist is your favourite character???? what are you smoking?
Something that I noticed is that there is a lot of rape in Greek mythology.
@@Callarson yes there is. That is because the Greeks created the gods to mimic reality. Unlike in Abrahamic religions, the gods were a representation of what was true. Not what was ideal. The Ancient Greeks were terrible to women so they wrote the gods to do the same.
How is she your favorite???
[CIRCE]
There are other ways of persuasion
There are other modes of control
There are other means of deceit
There are other roads to the soul
There are other actions of passion
You have so much left to learn
Want to save your men from the fire?
Show me that you're willing to burn, woah
[ODYSSEUS, CIRCE]
Who's to say, with the mistakes I've made, Don't be afraid
That they will be thе last Think of your past
Mistakes I ever makе? Don't break when
[BOTH]
There is so much power, so much power
But there's no puppet here, here
[CIRCE, ODYSSEUS]
This is the price we pay to love, I'm just a man
There is no line never enough, I'm just a man
So much power, so much power, forgive me
But there's no puppet here
this song is so interesting and fun! but i also love what it's doing for ody's character - he *is* a man of faith and honour, a man who loves his wife dearly and would never do anything to jeopardize their marriage
HOWEVER
this is clearly a ransom (and a trick judging by jay's video) so that's he's considering sleeping with circe is justified imo but it definitely is something that would haunt Odysseus bc he broke a solemn vow
The last person anyone would wanna cross is Hera. But yeah that’s the best way to explain it!
She threaten to hurt his mens if he didn't bang her. That is textbook rape
I love the flower motif throughout the animatic so much!!! And the flowers being incorporated in Circe's design was such a great idea!!! I love the movements and transitions, they are amazing! The gradient really makes it feel like everything is happening in some magical fog, a confusion spell or something like that. This animatic is absolutely incredible❤❤❤
The men that turned into pigs: im sure that our captain is going to save us at any moment!
Odysseus: forgive me😔😔
ANYWAYS BUT THE ANIMATION IS AMAZING!!!! I LOVE IT SM
Not-so-fun fact: He actually slept with Circe to save them. Hermes tells him before he enters that Circe is someone he can’t say no to if he values their lives.
@@Woodfekker i know that! And omg poor odysseus like calypso ALSO did it to him because he had no choice, dudes just want to see his wife
I know that Circe is going to try to get Odysseus to sleep with her, but after watching the voice actors before this song with a fork (& Circe looking like she’s gonna stab him at the end) that’s all I can imagine. Just…a fork.
But seriously, Circe is stunning. All the designs are beautifully drawn!
The improvements from this to the new version is amazing
Circe: *why isnt he falling for it?*
Odysseus: *I just wanna get back to my banana peel and asparagus*
😂😂😂Most underrated comment ever
Now I need a version of Epic with silly names like that
Ok ok there is the whole "ITS SA! NO ITS CHEATING!" BUT
But i cant help but laugh every time I hear of this episode, because HERMES, says to Odysseus everything he must do to "save himself and his crew" in the Odyssey, and in my native language, there is a part where Odysseus looks at Circe, SAYING THE EXACT WORDS HERMES SAID TO HIM EARLIER:
"[...] per rendermi vile e impotente una volta che io sia nudo e senz'armi?"
That pretty much translates with
"[...] to make me piteful and helpless once I will be naked and without my sword?"
IMPOTENTE (that there I translated with "piteful") IN MY LANGUAGE ALSO MEANS that a men can't "get it up"
AND I CANT HELP BUT FINDING IT HILARIOUS, AS I IMMAGINE CIRCE FACE LIKE "AM I??? THAT UGLY??? OR IS A??? IDK MEDICAL CONDITION???" and many other things that would not suit a yt comment✨
Odysseus: "I'm not sure I follow,"
Circes: "Are you f-ing kidding me?"
My art career is *SHAKING*
He's entering his say no to this era
LMAOOO
Ah yes. The SA song.
She literally tells him the only way to save his men is -implied- to have sex with her.
That’s not consensual in any way (if he agrees it’s be under duress).
Pretty sure if the genders were reversed more people would be calling it out more.
People are comparing it to ‘Say No To This’ but in that situation, Hamilton CHOSE to cheat on his wife BEFORE there was any blackmail involved.
With Odysseus, she’s straight up preying on his morality and loyalty to his men to make him have sex with her.
This song makes me REALLY uncomfortable (like “Hello Little Girl” from Into The Woods) and is definitely one of those I’ll have to skip.
Like yikes.
Sad part is he's right but I still love this video
@@torno99 the art and music is lovely but it’s just disappointing when you add the context of the situation (ie I don’t really think this song should have been what it is due to the romanticism of SA etc. Doesn’t mean it isn’t a ‘good’ sounding song. Just that it seems to ignore the actual events and has led to A LOT of misinformation that should have been prevented, which soils the song for me)
Man I was too focused on the art to really make out the lyrics but now that you've pointed it out I can definitely see it. He's not doing this because he wants to, he's doing it because it's the only option he has in order to save his men. I wish more people were actually noticing that it's far from consensual on his part. She might not be holding him down with a gun to his head but she's still abusing his morals and care for his men to pressure and essentially force him into doing what she wants. Using threats to get someone to do something definitely not something that leads to a consensual interaction.
the lyrics that she says are also clearly manipulation though it definitely plays more into a "seductress" role than a "literally sexual assault" thing
@@toshi9742 you’re right and im not sure if this makes it better or worse (probably worse) but the video where Jorge shows this snippet of the song ends with circe about to stab odysseus so shes clearly tricking him but murder isn’t that much better
me n my homies hate Circe
ANYWAYS THIS IS SO GREATT
Hate the character love the character design! ❤️👌
😡😡😡😡😡😡 /j
This is not lore accurate. Why isn't he wielding a fork?
I just read that part in the copy of the Odyssey I have, literally Odysseus was like:
"Enemies to lovers, with consent?"
And Circe was like: "Yep"
And that was it!!!
And then they have a kid.
Odysseus has a lot of kids on his journey, now that I think about it…
Thank you for adding this here! I love this musical and the reinterpretation of Odysseus’ character to better suit this kind of storytelling but then it’s jarring when we get to parts like this and some viewers are just like “Ody did nothing wrong!” Which I guess is true in this version of the story but this is like if The Odyssey was being told from Odysseus’ perspective only
@@electricbluetiramisu3713 Yeah! I was listen to the rest of the Epic song that are so far circling around Tiktok, and "Monster" is one that Odysseus sings about being not human anymore and holding back on killing. Whihc is weird because thinking about it "The Horse and the Infant" combats that in my head because I'm like: "Ody, you have to kill its war."
I feel like the musical itself is just explaining how Ody just doesn't want to be a killing machine EVEN THOUGH it is quite necessary, especially for future demigods/heroes who could potentially die to those monsters.
@@electricbluetiramisu3713i feel like, from a certain perspective they're right. Odysseus doesn't have an actual choice here, he can't fix it with violence and the only way out is obedience to divine whims
@@tetragaming6332Yeah, in the Armand Asante miniseries it’s similar. He doesn’t want to sleep with her, but Hermes tells him he has to do it in order to save his men.
Hamilton in the back: Bro just say no to this TRUST ME
1:00 - Am I the only one who thinks Odysseus looks quite frightened here?
Circe: "Sleep with me"
Odysseuss: "Nuh uh 😭"
Odysseus's men: bro why does he get laid and we get turned into pigs.
This is literally my wife when she starts to lose a board game
She’s trying to seduce him while accidentally setting off his allergies lol
Circe literally assaulting Odysseus
Comments: cheater
Well, actually they are both kinds.
I love your design for Circe! She's so pretty and mystical and I love her!
Also slightly distrubing myth fun fact, the kid that came out of whatever this is(Telegonus) ended up marrying Penelope after he accidentally killed Odysseus, and Telemachus married Circe, so Telegonus and Telemachus were half brothers and (i think) in laws.
Ancient Greece everyone
You're welcome.
Odysseus having is “how do I say no to this”moment
Yes
Not really, it's not like he's another choice
@Cocky Cookie Yeah it's more like, "How do I get myself out of this..."
It’s more like how can I say no to this since the dude doesn’t really have much of an alternative
@@cockycookie1 He could have said no tho? I mean she wanted him, but had nothing to force him to sleep with her
Fun Fact. Yes he does do the deed. This also sealed his fate of death as well as the son he has with Circe kills him but more of an accident as he didnt know Odysseus was his father.
I should not have been so surprised that it was a knife and not a plastic fork🤣💀
Thank you so much for making this!! Really love your work and recentlly discovered this musical. This was exactlly the song I was sad didn't have an animatic LOL
Beautiful work!!!!!! ❤️
Yaay thank you! :D
odysseus: sorry i got a wife
circe: huh, good answer
The most faithful fan knows that Odysseus is holding...
A Fork
ah yes, the most dangerous tool in Greek mythology
Penelope: So, what took you so long to return?
Odysseus: Ten years of war, the rest was being cursed, a fight with a cyclops, cheating, but also not cheating on you because it was against my will-
Penelope: What?!
Odysseus: I love you too.
0:14 I want to tattoo this picture on my brain, so beautiful
I became addicted to this song a few days ago and my god! Your designs and animatic make this 100% better!!!
Oh my lord I LOVE THIS SO MUCH! Your art style is so incredibly beautiful, and Circe’s design is just-FTGHHFSHBJN I LOVE IT SO MUCH!!!Thanks for making this!
Wait...Where's the plastic fork????
I just realised this was circe not Aphrodite... I'm not good at recognition... I'm just a man
...forgive me
Penelope: *Weaving* Dearest, how was your adventure? I am willing too hear!
Odysseus: *raining on his face* Oh, Penelope. You do not want to hear….😅
Odysseus really said no to this