To Shuffle or Not to Shuffle? - The War Within Goldmaking

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  • @cg22175
    @cg22175 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    I can’t trust a Goblin telling me I don’t need to shuffle, when we all know he’s shuffling. 😆

    • @Cvpakke
      @Cvpakke 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      He's a legitimate scumbag for this kind of commentary. It's so disingenuous. Even going so far as to say that blizzard shouldn't fix it and we need people to break the crafting system so everyone else doesn't have to participate in it/benefit from it. This is the first video at least where he acknowledges where it might not be the best for the health of the game.

    • @Manthieus
      @Manthieus  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Ya got me.

    • @joshh390
      @joshh390 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Cvpakkecame across this video at random, if this is being a scumbag… I’m sorry dude you need to meet some more people lol.

    • @joshh390
      @joshh390 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ManthieusGreat video btw. Only able to play EA for 2 days before I’m on vacation for over a week, so I doubt I’ll try to shuffle anymore than mining herb skinning.

    • @treefrog9392
      @treefrog9392 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Cvpakke this absolutely has to be a meme

  • @Zaeylo
    @Zaeylo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    i think I'm going to double gather for a few days, sell everything to the super sweaty goblins then go crafting specs so I guess i can do a tiny shuffle.

  • @dreadlord9257
    @dreadlord9257 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Blizzard should've nerfed this. Either by making acuity profession specific, or getting rid of first craft bonuses entirely and/or by making the sole source the weekly mettle quest equivalent from DF.
    Getting ahead gives you a week+ lead that is nearly impossible to overcome. Folks have to either do the shuffle themselves, hope the shufflers go on vacation, or catch up after shuffler's are maxed and cannot progress further.
    Frankly, I think it ruins the fun. It would be the equivalent of one guild having access to an extra week of heroic farm in the RTWF. Sure we all catch up in the end, but the start is the fun part.
    This is the second xpac with the same issue - which is why it is extra disappointing.

    • @stradgaming4625
      @stradgaming4625 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They should just put a weekly cap on it. It's hard to understand why Blizz lets some of these things go. The profession launch at DF was a disaster of stuff like this.

    • @disorderly06
      @disorderly06 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Almost all first crafts are worth 1 acuity, esp the ones that dont require sparks. The big miss (that we still havent seen how it looks on a fresh server vs beta) is just how many crafting orders you can get acuity from and the weekly profession items giving 5 each

    • @Cvpakke
      @Cvpakke 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@disorderly06 Not just that but also weekly treasures.

    • @disorderly06
      @disorderly06 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Cvpakke Yeah im not sure on the number of acuity for that. Most profession items give +1 and a couple give +2 per item, so its maybe 90 extra acuity a week from swapping around. Worthwhile-ish on the first time, but its a lot of effort to go through after that. I certainly dont intend to drop a useful profession for that, but i can see only having one "real" profession and swapping the second one around for a bit until you finish grinding all of the acuity you require

  • @BartVerhoeven1992
    @BartVerhoeven1992 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Manthieus around 9 minutes in the video: leave all the gold for me

  • @JamesEtallaz
    @JamesEtallaz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    gold is fun, therefore everyday I'm shuffling **beat starts*

  • @Zanzarful
    @Zanzarful 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Goblins will do goblin things, but do you need to do this to be able to make great gold? absolutely not. I think that's what a lot of people are missing when trying to decide on whether or not they want to do this

  • @96MManuel
    @96MManuel 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    are there any spreadsheets, etc. that help with tracking all the AA from shuffle ? (only seen the WA for the gathering ones)

  • @proprich5586
    @proprich5586 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I don’t think it’s a big deal. I didn’t shuffle in DF and I made several million.

  • @KibblesExoticBIts
    @KibblesExoticBIts 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yeah feeling like you have to shuffle has a dirty element to it. It is a huge JOB to manage all these alts. Not realistic for most people.

  • @gdunton1
    @gdunton1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I thoroughly enjoy your videos Manthieus. But, I agree with the other post…a wildly rich goblin down playing is so funny. If I had your gold I’d sit back too. Willing to be adopted lol though I am significantly older than you lol. Anyhow keep up the great work.

  • @TheAlPaca02
    @TheAlPaca02 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Jokes on me, i'm too poor to even try shuffling!! Problem solved 😂

  • @Tobikaj
    @Tobikaj 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I hope they remove the ability to profession shuffle 🤷‍♂

    • @isiseungella4688
      @isiseungella4688 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Switching to farming while you level to crafting existed in vanilla. You started by selling mats while you leveled because you couldn't afford recipes and needed gold for your mount. Once you were into dungeons and raids, you switched to crafting. It's always existed! Wait till you see the price of mats: farmers will get rich. 😂 I literally got popcorn because AH will be a pvp battleground.

  • @Dragonology99
    @Dragonology99 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Coming from WoW Classic, are there any BoP profession bonuses for raid/M+? Or do work orders mean you can pick whatever on your main

    • @SerGlushko
      @SerGlushko 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Alchemists get longer flasks (you need to pick that in the profession tree), engineers get some belt gadgets useful on a couple bosses of the expansion, that's about it

  • @TheBlizzG
    @TheBlizzG 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey I had a question. I primarily PvP , never picked up professions and as a family man I don’t have much time to play but want to be able to make enough gold for enchants/gems/gear . Do you recommendation for 2 professions ? Thanks in advance

    • @eddiecorleto7254
      @eddiecorleto7254 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’ve heard gathering herb/mining is usually pretty steady for making money

  • @quanchi371
    @quanchi371 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the prepatch event was an alt factory, i feel like they lost out on so many potential character boosts.

  • @luismiguelcostaperestrelo1164
    @luismiguelcostaperestrelo1164 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is there anywhere I can find how to do the "modest" shuffle?

  • @jonnydu76
    @jonnydu76 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    wait, creating tools on an alt character to send them to the main was nerfed? I was going to apply your strategy on release... it would have been nice to have a video just to warn of that, I would have been disgusted to find out about it when I was about to do it... thank goodness I watched that video!

  • @d1v1ne2986
    @d1v1ne2986 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You only get 1 AA per first time craft down from 5 in DF right?

    • @Manthieus
      @Manthieus  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well it still varies. Between 1 and 5 depending on the craft from what I have seen.

  • @isiseungella4688
    @isiseungella4688 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ty Manthieus and ty for your handy guide, so easy to use. 😊
    I will be having fun, I will be crafting and I have popcorn to watch mat prices going through the roof as the mega goblins go on their PvP warpath to obtain acuity and deny it to each other by resetting the market 😂. Fortunes will be gained but a few will be lost too 😂. This profession shuffle exists since vanilla, with people farming mats before switching to crafts so they had extra mats, extra cash since questing is in world content anyway. "Acuity" has made it more specific and acuite indeed but same principle. Spare a thought for those with tons of alts... 😂 gamers will find the most efficient way, it's a mindset. No different than people using 2 accounts, speed runs, BIS, grouping to level faster, using addons, speed gear and what not. 🐢 me will still find niches that are "not profitable enough" and will leave me with modest but stable returns with less 🐇 competition.

  • @corred2819
    @corred2819 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The shuffle just kinda makes it so ppl without enough gold to throw at it are limited to how much gold they can actually make. Imo nothing wrong with making a mechanic that makes it so you can turbo grind to get ahead of ppl, nothing wrong with that. Locking that same mechanic behind a shitload of gold is where the issue lies. It advocates a rich get richer scheme which makes it hard for newcomers to enter the playing field.

  • @leonardlindsey596
    @leonardlindsey596 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    To Goblin or not to Goblin

  • @valodmanukyan1975
    @valodmanukyan1975 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can someone link the nerf, mentioned in video? 5:23

    • @andrewzhang9006
      @andrewzhang9006 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He is talking about using alts to provide artisan's acuity for profession tools. Blizzard since changed it to the buyer has to include the artisan's acuity.

  • @Kytrion
    @Kytrion 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sadly I am going to join on late access ... GL and have fun :D

  • @rockylee943
    @rockylee943 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nah but thats sweaty as fuck is it worth it yea maybe but what did it cost ?

  • @BrendanZanitCoen
    @BrendanZanitCoen 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m pretty disappointed this was left in. But I’m more disappointed I have the busiest 2 weeks of my year at work rn lol.

    • @vestele
      @vestele 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In the end it’s still a game.

    • @jiinzo2697
      @jiinzo2697 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@vestele worst comment ive seen.

    • @PerseusKarvasius
      @PerseusKarvasius 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jiinzo2697 worst comment ive seen.

    • @scoontaquex3388
      @scoontaquex3388 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PerseusKarvasius a comment I've seen.

    • @jiinzo2697
      @jiinzo2697 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@scoontaquex3388 hey at least you understand what i am sayin. lmfao

  • @poryaamouei636
    @poryaamouei636 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    love your effort in making these videos for us, but please stop with the 6mins extra rant that is no good other than getting more ads in.

  • @CuddleUTube
    @CuddleUTube 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i dont like having fun... lol

  • @TheCommentFactory
    @TheCommentFactory 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Alt army incoming

  • @RobbieNero
    @RobbieNero 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    le jeu dégénéré commence

  • @elwhapposanchez7926
    @elwhapposanchez7926 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    looks like a exploit to me imo.