@@zackcolbourne6921 by all means, they should make it however they’d like. But I suspect the look has kept it out of plenty of cases. Especially given how many cases I see that have a very specific aesthetic, and it’s never been red.
Looks/sounds great. I've always like Pittsburghs work, they make very classy modules. Their SV-1b was a classic piece of work and still stands out as such. However, I think I preferred the retro look of their modules/synths beforehand, but that's just a personal opinion.
Me too, I started with the nifty bundle, and one of the first modules after that was PhilTer. Cre8 packs a lot of functionality at a reasonable price (and HP.) I've been looking at this module as a next purchase, thanks for the review!
I always explicitly avoided Math's (I like Make Noise) as it was too ubiquitous. I don't.... think they've nailed the styling on this new module... (Edit: I can't, I actively hate the faceplate and mirror buttons. I hope it works for others :D )
@@l1fef0rm like self-sabotagely ... I think if this were a standalone unit it'd make sense. But to put this in the center of your 3k+ rack... Good design needs to take context into account
Maybe Grayscale will make an alternate panel. But probably not, since I fear they won’t sell many copies of this module, which is really a huge shame. I’m a Pitts fan.
Been following Jorb for just a little while. Great content as always. He's one of my favorite synth youtubers lately. Everyone else kind of always does the same videos and often sponsored gear reviews. These videos are usually a bit different, more interesting. 👍
I hope the designers of that module are listening: This layout, with all the i/o in one place and all the pots in another, really SUCKS. Especially in utility modules. It is counter intuitive and it does not help with understanding what input is connected with what control. This is sad, because otherwise the module would indeed be "better than Maths". As it is, it's not even close. Even with the awkward fonts, Maths is much simpler to use once you understand the core concepts. This jumbled mess of inputs and outputs is not easier. It's a mess.
Jacks and knobs mixed together means you can't reach the knobs when it's patched. MakeNoise often puts jacks along three edges (maths, morphagene) but if you look at, for example, the fabulous Happy Nerding utilities, the knobs and jacks are top and bottom.
@@Hrotti If you have "to learn the module" for it to become intuitive, then the module is useless. Especially in the case of utility modules, that are supposed to provide a straightforward function. You can have i/o grouped together with pots without the cables blocking the pots. It's not the one or the other. Also: It doesn't hurt to demand proper UX when you are paying overpriced circuits like in Eurorack.
I got Maths very early in my eurorack journey and sold it after several months mainly because I didn't like trying to figure out how to get it to do the complex stuff it can do. It can do a heck of a lot, but in my rack it did few things. It does simple things very well, but unless you are patch programming it, it's not worth the footprint. QARV is my main envelope generator. It is cramped, but that doesn't bother me too much. QARV does not reproduce all of what Maths does - notably it lacks cycle inputs, EOC output, and the or. But it does *plenty* that Maths doesn't (4 VCAs!), and I don't worry that I'm not getting the most out of it.
Jorb: "...It makes me want to make a 'really tiny' Eurorack case but that's it." Anyone who's ever been into Eurorack: "HAHaHAHahhahahahahaaaahhh that's funny good luck can't wait for your Monster Case review video!" But seriously, great review! I'd slept on this module because when it came out I was like "Ohh another Maths, cool whatever". I don't have Maths for many of the reasons you went over but this module now makes much more sense and is now much more appealing. Thanks for the video and I hope to see more Eurorack content from you! I think a niche you can exploit is modular for people who like to make actual music. Sooooo many atonal bleeps and bloop sand "cool functions" out there, and not enough here's how you make and perform great synth sounds. Thanks again!
Great video Jorb! Would you consider making another "Eurorack guide" video? I quite enjoy your Building a Better Monosynth video, but maybe this one could be more about your actual workflow when using it and what that looks like on a typical day, rather than discussing module selection/rack composition. I am sitting here with a rack I built, but I find more frustration than fun in trying to use it, and I wonder if the problem lies in approach and philosophy rather than "buy different things and plug them in".
So, generally speaking, would I miss the EOC and EOR that is on maths? Looking to make generative/Berlin school style of music. Im also fairly new so maybe I wouldn’t notice for awhile. How often do you guys use these features (assuming you have it). Thanks
I think Cre8auido have a serious design problem. I understand that they're budget modules but I can't help but think that they'd be massively more popular if they had a cohesive aesthetic that didnt look like... this.
If you're looking for something a little closer to Maths then the Befaco Rampage is a good alternative. The price of this is pretty unbeatable though, esp as it still manages to fit the attenuverters, lfo etc. into that space
you really need to be familiar with serge style of patching to appreciate maths also, the case is truly nifty, the only thing i dislike about it is the position of pitch and mod wheels
What id didn’t get a sense of is the snappiness or otherwise of the envelopes. To me, Maths is pretty much perfect in this regard and of all my envelopes, is the easiest to dial in what I’m looking for
Great video. Thanks. I agree it is UGLY! Very cool features. I wonder if you have thought about using Frap Tools Falistri instead of maths? Or building the functions of maths using a combination of utility modules? I know of one other youtuber that has made a video on this, but I'd like to see more.
MATHS is much more than the sum of its parts. If all you want is an ASDR, function generator, LFO and small mixer then sure get this. But this is no substitute for a MATHS
You can get quite close to ADSR by patching into two QARV channels, one AD, the other ASR. The mix of the two channels can, in principle, achieve any ADSR shape and more besides though it's not particularly intuitive. To get an adsr, the rise time of the ASR channel should match the entire duration of the AD, then the level of the ASR determines the sustain. (An ADSR has at least 4 parameters, and this patch has: two rise, two fall, and two level = 6 which is why it can do more. Technically, the shape is fully determined by the ratio of the two levels, and sum of the two determines overall amplitude, not shape. Also I didn't count the shape controls, so there are 7 effective shape parameters.) Thank you for coming to my TED talk.
If you don't specifically need an ADSR (if you do, Javelin is a cool module!), QARV gives you a whopping four slew limiter/function generators, each with a VCA and output attenuator, for less than a Function Junction. And the patchbook shows you all kinds of Math-style things that you can do with it when you're ready to dive deeper. I'm loving mine.
Wow really cool alternative to maths. I'm not in to modular (yet I guess 😅) but I interested in gear and watching a lot of videos on that theme while preparing my wallet 😂
Looks useful. As you were demoing it I kept thinking that, yes, it's got some immediate intuitive advantages. However if you're thinking about how to use it for slewing pitch (for example) then you probably already know enough about music synthesis to figure out how Maths works.
It would be a PITA, but you could take a pic, rework the panel as an upside down in a graphics editor, and make a custom plate. Lots of punching out hole though...
Does Pittsburgh/Cre8Audio do a starter bundle (e.g: VCO, VCA, VCF and MIDI-to-CV)? Also, did they ever sort out the MIDI note-off problem with the East Beast and West Pest?
It puts the jacks right up next to where the jacks are on their cases, or in 6u or 4u cases, it makes sense in the bottom row. But I do agree, most modules don't work that way.
I love your approach. At first I was like ooohhh there is gonna be controversy. Lol. Seriously though with all the bs and seemingly bad seeds that are "popular" could take note in your attitude and approach. Anyhow. Just wanted to drop a line and say kudos! :-D.
maybe i just have maths brain but this thing seems a lot less intuitive to me than maths, maybe ive just spent more time with it tho. interesting module would certainly like to try it, feels perfect for a nifty keys case type of rack
I'm a relative eurorack noob, so no expert, but Maths always felt pretty straightforward to me, at least to achieve the basics of envelopes, LFOs, slew limiters, attenuation, offset and mixing - which is a lot. BUt the way that this module is laid out is not intuitive at all plus it's dog ugly. Not for me, I'm afraid.
I never jived with Maths. I've purchased it twice in the past 8 years. 2nd time was giving it another chance, but I still wasn't enjoying it and sold it after a few months. Might check this thing out next time I'm in Perfect Circuit.
@@JorbLovesGear a few folks have told me it loses power and isn’t always compatible with every module. Also have been told it doesn’t have very adequate power for lots of modules either
Hmmm. A good video, but the title is a bit harsh. Maybe "Maths is hard? Get this instead." I think Function Junction is easier to understand, but I never had problems understanding Maths that couldn't be worked through by reading the manual and talking to friends in the community. I'll probably try "FuncJunc" in my modulation rack next to Maths as it's cool and useful too...but I certainly am not going to "F#&$ Maths". Excellent video, very informative. Carry on sir. :)
Appreciate the opinion. YES this video needs more structure, especially because this device has the capability to be somewhat amorphous, meaning one function can do a couple things, or be used in a couple, three, ways... You really need to get regimented, and work through the matrix of possibilities. There were a few cuts in this video that were abrupt, undoubtedly because you were trying to restructure, or group like features that were not grouped in your original run through. Just generally, something as flexible as this does, yes, I think, need more structure. I got lost a few times in this vid, and I don't normally in your vids. Maybe its just me. But you wanted the feed back, so here it is mate! I appreciate your channel despite yourself, lol, no shade, just took me a minute to get past your amusement with yourself, or the absurdity of the difficulty of your task in reviewing/summarizing extensive things. I'm late, we're going to have to live with that senescence as it is.
Costs almost as much as maths.... looks like shit... sales make you $. If you want a cheap function generator, get a Behringer Neutron and use the oscillators as LFO's. 3 LFO's, 2 ADSR envelopes, Sample and Hold, Slew Limiter, Noise generator, Attenuators, hp,bp,lp Filter...etc since we're comparing apples to oranges. Thing also has 64 patch points.
ok, first off, it's almost $100 cheaper than a MATHS, second, how much exactly do you think he makes from these vids? But, third, it really is quite brilliant what you said about the Neutron. I have a Neutron and lately, have been using the parts of it as separate modules while putting together a smaller standalone rack. It is also great for learning what each module does what.
Great video. Demonstrations of modules make so much more sense when the presenter gives musical phrases instead of random sequences 🙂 I think there's one of those in my future.
Seriously. The "we're cheap and we're not hiding it" thing is fine and all, but even aside from the graphics, look at the way the jacks on Capt'n Big-O are off center. Why? Just... why???
Adding color and control...this. On left field, I'm trying to learn the crazy Yamaha arp setup in the MOXF, which has "chord following" based on a single note (or more) in specified range, I want to send that out to various analog sources at will to resolve from chaos to ....the familiar...and then destroy it with other sequencing options (MPC1K, Zaquencer), and maybe one of these even :) Great video, thank you.
Do people not understand Maths because Maths is difficult? …or do they not understand Maths because modular synthesis is difficult? I think it's the latter. Honestly, I don't think the function junction would be easier for me to understand/use if I were new to modular. I'm sure I would run into the same issues figuring out what any of this stuff means. You know?
Actually, I'm just waiting for Behringer's Abacus, almost 1/3 the price of Maths. In the meantime, I'm 110% satisfied with my Function Junction. Yeah, the faceplate design might not be to the liking of some, but the negative comments here about the aesthetics are ridiculous.
@@G8tr1522 it’s excellent. The slope generators Tracks v/oct beautifully, quadrature, mixing, mangling, i cold go on. Maths is a wonderful module. I wouldn’t ever say it’s not, but Falistri seems to click with my workflow better.
The reason I got into modular in the first place is that you get low-level control. I don’t necessarily place a priority on making something easier to use over utility.
Appears that everyone agrees; this thing is functionally a great design.. but looks like crap! I also hope someone makes replacement face plates for both this module, + the Captain Biggo... (fantastic VCO... but again, falls down badly on the aesthetics).
This is throwing me also... I feel like Pittsburg did the electronics or something, while Cre8 did all the faceplate design? Everything Pittsburg makes it is very classy in style (their cases, for instance, can NOT be beat)... I think they must have gotten a lot of money to license this module design or something...
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Nobody has ever defined it so effectively
thanks
happy to do it 🙏 🙏
Looks like an awesome module with a solid functional design and an unfortunate aesthetic design.
yeah I've never heard of this one until now and I was surprised a bit when the choice wasn't Falistri.
I agree. Wish it had a cleaner look…
I mean, there are people who feel this way about Maths, too.
I'm fine with all of them, but it's still a distinct look.
@@zackcolbourne6921 by all means, they should make it however they’d like. But I suspect the look has kept it out of plenty of cases. Especially given how many cases I see that have a very specific aesthetic, and it’s never been red.
@@MotorHolmesprobably looks okay next to a Neutron! haha
I love Function Junction! Had it since the day it came out and it will stay in my rack forever.
Looks/sounds great. I've always like Pittsburghs work, they make very classy modules. Their SV-1b was a classic piece of work and still stands out as such. However, I think I preferred the retro look of their modules/synths beforehand, but that's just a personal opinion.
I hope someone sells nice replacement panels for these eventually, or they change it up.
Yes, fantastic engineering, but terrible aEsthetics 😢
I'm a huge fan of the cre8 audio stuff.
Me too, I started with the nifty bundle, and one of the first modules after that was PhilTer. Cre8 packs a lot of functionality at a reasonable price (and HP.) I've been looking at this module as a next purchase, thanks for the review!
Holy Every-Branch-Of-The-Ugly-Tree-On-The-Way-Down, Batman! 😟
There’s no doubt in my mind whether this is a useful module. And I hate to be shallow, but I can’t help it: the panel, OMG.
I always explicitly avoided Math's (I like Make Noise) as it was too ubiquitous.
I don't.... think they've nailed the styling on this new module...
(Edit: I can't, I actively hate the faceplate and mirror buttons. I hope it works for others :D )
It is VERY ugly.
@@l1fef0rm like self-sabotagely ...
I think if this were a standalone unit it'd make sense. But to put this in the center of your 3k+ rack...
Good design needs to take context into account
My sentiments exactly re the panel 😱, also regarding Maths ubiquity. I made it a goal to not have Maths, and also to have too few VCAs ;-)
Maybe Grayscale will make an alternate panel. But probably not, since I fear they won’t sell many copies of this module, which is really a huge shame. I’m a Pitts fan.
People underestimate how much aesthetic also plays into setups and gear
Been following Jorb for just a little while. Great content as always. He's one of my favorite synth youtubers lately. Everyone else kind of always does the same videos and often sponsored gear reviews. These videos are usually a bit different, more interesting. 👍
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Jorb: no flaming Maths in the comments.
Also Jorb: F#&$ Maths.
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Jorb you changed my life
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It is maths with less modulation and mixing/utility but with a LFO and less HP. Maths has the output jacks on the bottom where you need them. :)
Install it upside down. :)
I think it looks great, some colour for a change rather than grey/silver/black blandness
I hope the designers of that module are listening: This layout, with all the i/o in one place and all the pots in another, really SUCKS.
Especially in utility modules. It is counter intuitive and it does not help with understanding what input is connected with what control. This is sad, because otherwise the module would indeed be "better than Maths". As it is, it's not even close. Even with the awkward fonts, Maths is much simpler to use once you understand the core concepts.
This jumbled mess of inputs and outputs is not easier. It's a mess.
I have no problem with patch bay style jacks. 2 minutes with this module and you can understand it just fine.... Great utility in my eyes.
Worst thing is when there are jacks with cables plugged in all over the module blocking access to the knobs
Jacks and knobs mixed together means you can't reach the knobs when it's patched. MakeNoise often puts jacks along three edges (maths, morphagene) but if you look at, for example, the fabulous Happy Nerding utilities, the knobs and jacks are top and bottom.
@@Hrotti If you have "to learn the module" for it to become intuitive, then the module is useless. Especially in the case of utility modules, that are supposed to provide a straightforward function.
You can have i/o grouped together with pots without the cables blocking the pots. It's not the one or the other.
Also: It doesn't hurt to demand proper UX when you are paying overpriced circuits like in Eurorack.
Great run trough of the module. Only thing I missing is a end of cycle trigger for the funtion. Otherwise a great module.
Pair a Function Junction with a Captain Big-O to perfectly demonstrate Cre8audio's design esthetic.
I got Maths very early in my eurorack journey and sold it after several months mainly because I didn't like trying to figure out how to get it to do the complex stuff it can do. It can do a heck of a lot, but in my rack it did few things. It does simple things very well, but unless you are patch programming it, it's not worth the footprint.
QARV is my main envelope generator. It is cramped, but that doesn't bother me too much. QARV does not reproduce all of what Maths does - notably it lacks cycle inputs, EOC output, and the or. But it does *plenty* that Maths doesn't (4 VCAs!), and I don't worry that I'm not getting the most out of it.
Jorb: "...It makes me want to make a 'really tiny' Eurorack case but that's it." Anyone who's ever been into Eurorack: "HAHaHAHahhahahahahaaaahhh that's funny good luck can't wait for your Monster Case review video!"
But seriously, great review! I'd slept on this module because when it came out I was like "Ohh another Maths, cool whatever". I don't have Maths for many of the reasons you went over but this module now makes much more sense and is now much more appealing. Thanks for the video and I hope to see more Eurorack content from you! I think a niche you can exploit is modular for people who like to make actual music. Sooooo many atonal bleeps and bloop sand "cool functions" out there, and not enough here's how you make and perform great synth sounds.
Thanks again!
Great video Jorb! Would you consider making another "Eurorack guide" video? I quite enjoy your Building a Better Monosynth video, but maybe this one could be more about your actual workflow when using it and what that looks like on a typical day, rather than discussing module selection/rack composition. I am sitting here with a rack I built, but I find more frustration than fun in trying to use it, and I wonder if the problem lies in approach and philosophy rather than "buy different things and plug them in".
I'd be very interested in this kind of thing.
Blasphemy! Haha, just kidding. That’s the beauty of Eurorack - figuring out exactly what works for you. It’s great that we have so many good choices.
So, generally speaking, would I miss the EOC and EOR that is on maths? Looking to make generative/Berlin school style of music. Im also fairly new so maybe I wouldn’t notice for awhile. How often do you guys use these features (assuming you have it). Thanks
I really love that you kept the name of this, I honestly thought you were joking but it's legit
I think Cre8auido have a serious design problem. I understand that they're budget modules but I can't help but think that they'd be massively more popular if they had a cohesive aesthetic that didnt look like... this.
I'm very glad to see this unit, but I sure wish they had looked at some other face plate designs.
The function junction is obviously great. The Osc and filter though…phew!
Ah yes! Both are excellent
i´m a eurorack beginner this is very helpful for me
I don't have room for a Maths anyway so I've been looking for an alternative
Excellent timing
If you're looking for something a little closer to Maths then the Befaco Rampage is a good alternative. The price of this is pretty unbeatable though, esp as it still manages to fit the attenuverters, lfo etc. into that space
See also Delta-V
you really need to be familiar with serge style of patching to appreciate maths
also, the case is truly nifty, the only thing i dislike about it is the position of pitch and mod wheels
I got to get this! Time to sell to make room
What id didn’t get a sense of is the snappiness or otherwise of the envelopes. To me, Maths is pretty much perfect in this regard and of all my envelopes, is the easiest to dial in what I’m looking for
Great video. Thanks. I agree it is UGLY! Very cool features. I wonder if you have thought about using Frap Tools Falistri instead of maths? Or building the functions of maths using a combination of utility modules? I know of one other youtuber that has made a video on this, but I'd like to see more.
MATHS has two mix buses. People tend to overlook that.
subbed! love all your vids
Sounds good!!
MATHS is much more than the sum of its parts. If all you want is an ASDR, function generator, LFO and small mixer then sure get this. But this is no substitute for a MATHS
I really does hurt my eyes. Unlike Maths, which hurts my brain. (Great vid bud!!)
Another alternative is the After Later Qarv although you lose SR of ADSR but gain a channel.
You can get quite close to ADSR by patching into two QARV channels, one AD, the other ASR. The mix of the two channels can, in principle, achieve any ADSR shape and more besides though it's not particularly intuitive. To get an adsr, the rise time of the ASR channel should match the entire duration of the AD, then the level of the ASR determines the sustain. (An ADSR has at least 4 parameters, and this patch has: two rise, two fall, and two level = 6 which is why it can do more. Technically, the shape is fully determined by the ratio of the two levels, and sum of the two determines overall amplitude, not shape. Also I didn't count the shape controls, so there are 7 effective shape parameters.)
Thank you for coming to my TED talk.
If you don't specifically need an ADSR (if you do, Javelin is a cool module!), QARV gives you a whopping four slew limiter/function generators, each with a VCA and output attenuator, for less than a Function Junction. And the patchbook shows you all kinds of Math-style things that you can do with it when you're ready to dive deeper. I'm loving mine.
Wow really cool alternative to maths. I'm not in to modular (yet I guess 😅) but I interested in gear and watching a lot of videos on that theme while preparing my wallet 😂
Looks useful. As you were demoing it I kept thinking that, yes, it's got some immediate intuitive advantages. However if you're thinking about how to use it for slewing pitch (for example) then you probably already know enough about music synthesis to figure out how Maths works.
Does it come in black? Also, silver/red/black is terrible on the eyes and why top jacks? The module however looks extremely useful!
It would be a PITA, but you could take a pic, rework the panel as an upside down in a graphics editor, and make a custom plate. Lots of punching out hole though...
@@sunglint wouldn’t all the knobs be reversed too?
@@TheMachinesWon yes, it would be RSDA, youd just label it that way.
Counterpoint: the module is ugly but so is Maths
But at least it's possible to understand how someone could like the way maths looks.
Strong disagree, Maths is a beautiful module but this Function Generator is just horrible!
very cool breakdown, but the jack location & graphics make it a hard sell. p.s., I do love my Capt'n Big-O
Great vid
I'd love a demo of East Beast in the NiftyKeyz...
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Does Pittsburgh/Cre8Audio do a starter bundle (e.g: VCO, VCA, VCF and MIDI-to-CV)? Also, did they ever sort out the MIDI note-off problem with the East Beast and West Pest?
Good video Jorb. Seems like a great module, especially for the price. But damn, those colors....
Why do cre8 audio always put to jacks at the top!? Looks like an awesome module but I would need to install it upside down like my Chipz.
It puts the jacks right up next to where the jacks are on their cases, or in 6u or 4u cases, it makes sense in the bottom row.
But I do agree, most modules don't work that way.
I love your approach. At first I was like ooohhh there is gonna be controversy. Lol. Seriously though with all the bs and seemingly bad seeds that are "popular" could take note in your attitude and approach. Anyhow. Just wanted to drop a line and say kudos! :-D.
what cables are those? Intellijel?
maybe i just have maths brain but this thing seems a lot less intuitive to me than maths, maybe ive just spent more time with it tho. interesting module would certainly like to try it, feels perfect for a nifty keys case type of rack
I'm a relative eurorack noob, so no expert, but Maths always felt pretty straightforward to me, at least to achieve the basics of envelopes, LFOs, slew limiters, attenuation, offset and mixing - which is a lot. BUt the way that this module is laid out is not intuitive at all plus it's dog ugly. Not for me, I'm afraid.
Awesome eurorack video!
Black font on red background is horrid. This layout is a mess.
I'm not big on the gui of these pm cr8 audio modules. Seems too cartoony for me. They look like they'd be useful modules though.
I never jived with Maths. I've purchased it twice in the past 8 years. 2nd time was giving it another chance, but I still wasn't enjoying it and sold it after a few months. Might check this thing out next time I'm in Perfect Circuit.
ive only heard bad things about the nifty case - what's your thoughts?
No complaints so far, but I haven't used it much. What have you seen people say?
@@JorbLovesGear a few folks have told me it loses power and isn’t always compatible with every module. Also have been told it doesn’t have very adequate power for lots of modules either
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looks great thanks for the tip!
Apologies if I didn't reply to your comment.
Hmmm. A good video, but the title is a bit harsh. Maybe "Maths is hard? Get this instead." I think Function Junction is easier to understand, but I never had problems understanding Maths that couldn't be worked through by reading the manual and talking to friends in the community. I'll probably try "FuncJunc" in my modulation rack next to Maths as it's cool and useful too...but I certainly am not going to "F#&$ Maths". Excellent video, very informative. Carry on sir. :)
Boooo! Explecatives or die.
The frontpanel is ugly af, but i like the functionality and this video.
PEG.
Appreciate the opinion. YES this video needs more structure, especially because this device has the capability to be somewhat amorphous, meaning one function can do a couple things, or be used in a couple, three, ways... You really need to get regimented, and work through the matrix of possibilities.
There were a few cuts in this video that were abrupt, undoubtedly because you were trying to restructure, or group like features that were not grouped in your original run through.
Just generally, something as flexible as this does, yes, I think, need more structure. I got lost a few times in this vid, and I don't normally in your vids. Maybe its just me. But you wanted the feed back, so here it is mate!
I appreciate your channel despite yourself, lol, no shade, just took me a minute to get past your amusement with yourself, or the absurdity of the difficulty of your task in reviewing/summarizing extensive things. I'm late, we're going to have to live with that senescence as it is.
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Thanks, interesting. I would love a side by side to Maths. I just do not understand what Maths is.
It looks like arse tho :( those gfx. Not for me.
A function gen + 3xmia will have to do for me.
Costs almost as much as maths.... looks like shit... sales make you $. If you want a cheap function generator, get a Behringer Neutron and use the oscillators as LFO's. 3 LFO's, 2 ADSR envelopes, Sample and Hold, Slew Limiter, Noise generator, Attenuators, hp,bp,lp Filter...etc since we're comparing apples to oranges. Thing also has 64 patch points.
ok, first off, it's almost $100 cheaper than a MATHS, second, how much exactly do you think he makes from these vids? But, third, it really is quite brilliant what you said about the Neutron. I have a Neutron and lately, have been using the parts of it as separate modules while putting together a smaller standalone rack. It is also great for learning what each module does what.
Great video. Demonstrations of modules make so much more sense when the presenter gives musical phrases instead of random sequences 🙂
I think there's one of those in my future.
Obviously a powerful module but Cre8 really need to work on their graphic design. Looks like a toy.
Seriously. The "we're cheap and we're not hiding it" thing is fine and all, but even aside from the graphics, look at the way the jacks on Capt'n Big-O are off center. Why? Just... why???
It’s charmingly ugly haha but I’d get one tbh :))
Thanks for the video!
bro have you heard of vsts? presets? making an actual song?
No what's that
Yawn..
What does that even mean?
Nah, not for me.
I never did well in Math class anyway..
Adding color and control...this. On left field, I'm trying to learn the crazy Yamaha arp setup in the MOXF, which has "chord following" based on a single note (or more) in specified range, I want to send that out to various analog sources at will to resolve from chaos to ....the familiar...and then destroy it with other sequencing options (MPC1K, Zaquencer), and maybe one of these even :) Great video, thank you.
I like math
Even long division? Sometimes it's just so LONG...
They just need to make a smaller version. No need for it to be that large.
F#&K Maths go get a real Jorb.
1:23 LMAO thats my post
Do people not understand Maths because Maths is difficult? …or do they not understand Maths because modular synthesis is difficult? I think it's the latter. Honestly, I don't think the function junction would be easier for me to understand/use if I were new to modular. I'm sure I would run into the same issues figuring out what any of this stuff means. You know?
I f#cking hate Math's, wooooooo
Ok but let me play devil's advocate for a moment: you should totally definitely absolutely get a Maths.
;)
Thanks for the vid Jorb!
Actually, I'm just waiting for Behringer's Abacus, almost 1/3 the price of Maths. In the meantime, I'm 110% satisfied with my Function Junction. Yeah, the faceplate design might not be to the liking of some, but the negative comments here about the aesthetics are ridiculous.
Uh ok
Finally someone unafraid to challenge the mighty maths. I’m a falistri guy myself 😅 Great vid as usual Jorb
how's that movement manager?
@@G8tr1522 it’s excellent. The slope generators Tracks v/oct beautifully, quadrature, mixing, mangling, i cold go on. Maths is a wonderful module. I wouldn’t ever say it’s not, but Falistri seems to click with my workflow better.
says maths is confusing and presents this abomination as alternative...
The reason I got into modular in the first place is that you get low-level control. I don’t necessarily place a priority on making something easier to use over utility.
Interface is everything. If all you need is power, get a rack of distings.
Not influenced
Appears that everyone agrees; this thing is functionally a great design.. but looks like crap!
I also hope someone makes replacement face plates for both this module, + the Captain Biggo... (fantastic VCO... but again, falls down badly on the aesthetics).
So ugly, even though Pittsburg solo modules are beautiful
This is throwing me also... I feel like Pittsburg did the electronics or something, while Cre8 did all the faceplate design?
Everything Pittsburg makes it is very classy in style (their cases, for instance, can NOT be beat)... I think they must have gotten a lot of money to license this module design or something...
seems neat bug god is it ugly
Maths- biggest LFO module ever.
What a horrible UI
Maths sucks
Your mom
is wonderful
You had me at F#&$ Maths