Yeah he was actually a pretty good politician too, much better (and more popular) than Kerry, and miles better than any presidential candidate we've had since.
This reminds me of that animation someone made where Kerry and Bush verbally face off while singing a parody of This Land is Your Land, since Dean was featured in it.
there are politicians who openly lie and will say one thing one day and literally the opposite the next day but this dude lost his career over a scream that’s so sad
It would have been no big deal if the corporate, multinational, fake news media didn’t ram it down everyone’s throats. The current president should resign because of the Twitter files, but the media is silent because they are in bed with the Uniparty. What’s sad is how people refuse to think for themselves.
@@averynorth9551 Imagine trying to insert Trump into a conversation about authenticity the day his tax returns were forcefully released to the public by Congress. Gtfo of here.
It’s so absolutely insane to me that a politicians career was tanked over a scream. Meanwhile we have politicians who have done 100 times worse and getting popular
From what I remember (I was a kid back then tho), his career and campaign were already going downhill. The scream was just a convenient excuse, the final straw that broke the camel's back.
@@Dog-lg5ju nah your system is extra rotten. You say you live in a democracy and votes in different states count different. Also you only have to parties. Us system is extra fucked up.
So for anyone who's confused as to why this was a career killer. At the time it was a popular naritive in the media that Howard Dean was a loose canon and a bit unstable, so when he did the "Dean Scream" it only reinforced that, then as Charlie mentioned, Chappell would put the final nail in the coffin. Which is sad and ironic because we (in my opinion) had already elected loose canons, like then Colorado governor Bill Owens. Who during the "killdozer" incident in Granby, demanded that an Apache helicopter be sent to the scene so it could rain hellfire missiles on the bulldozer and town, which displayed no aggressive behaviour to people.
The Bulldozer guy was firing rifle rounds at massive propane tanks and ran through buildings. It was very aggressive. Only luck stopped death that day.
@@hhiippiittyyand the good old boys in granby did every last scummy thing they could to fuck over Marvin heemeyer. They deserved what was coming to them.
@@hhiippiittyy Nooooooo. The guy specifically targeted government buildings, houses of politicians, and other targets of the government that has fucked him over his entire life. He never once targeted or unintentionally harmed normal civilian lives or buildings. Yeah, he was unstoppable and absolutely demolishing the city but he was not shooting guns or blowing shit up. DO NOT mistell the story. The dude only carried one gun and that was to kill himself with at the end of his rampage. He welded himself inside that bulldozer so no one can stop him until he was done. There was no way he could shoot guns and blow things up. On top of that. It wasn't "luck" that stopped his rampage. Dude knew what he was doing and purposely didn't harm anyone but himself.
@@hhiippiittyy Marvin is not a villain, in fact, in some ways a resembles a Shakespearian tragic hero. The main problem with Marvin is that ultimately his actions did not solve the problem of corruption he faced, and nobody could claim he came out the victor. The Killdozer also had three guns mounted, a .50 cal Baret M82 at the rear, a 5.52mm FN FNC semi-automatic at the front, and a .223 Ruger Mini-14 on the right. He also had two side arms, one of which he used to commit suicide. Despite the weapons, Killdozer never actually killed anyone or seriously attempted to, and Marvin ended up being the only casualty.
Kinda scary, actually. Goes to show how impulsive and unpredictable people are. A little bit of social awkwardness literally ruined a career and caused a whole new political timeline, it's crazy
@@nickcunningham6344 I mean it's happening right now lol look at how some mean tweets and MSM's agenda skewed the legitimacy of our elections and people willingly voted in a senile racist zombie who's super weird with children 😂
I am not american and I dont get it...I tried...I googled...I dont find an answer. Why did this ruin his career? It just sounds a little corny but...whats the deal? I understand Dave Chapelle clowned on it but how is it that deep?
YTMND and a lot of the other websites that were big back before TH-cam were roasting him pretty hard. I'm gonna go see if any of those old gifs exist anymore just out of curiosity lol.
I doubt it. No one would even notice, that's as generic a whoop as can be. Saddest thing is that It wasn't really the scream, a few people made fun of it and the rest joined, even if no one really thought much of it. t's the Nickelback effect, most of us are just dumb apes.
People are alot more open to social weirdness these days. Exposure to different cultures and people of all walks of life all over the world through the internet has broadened the minds of society as a whole, so we're alot less likely now to judge someone for being "weird" or "abnormal". Internet was around in 2004 obviously, but it was just sorta starting to get big so it was still pretty common to judge people based on superficial things like that. You gotta think how the world absolutely destroyed the Star Wars Kid over a video that honestly isn't that bad, his moves were not awful he was just somewhat overweight and it was weird to see someone doing something like that. Slightly weird back then was a social death sentence.
Every MSM outlet took this blunder and ran heavily with it. Howard Dean's reputation went from "lovable American man" to "man with moronic scream" and that's all people began to know him by. Dean was loved by most and both Democrats and Republicans began making fun of him for it. Eventually Dean stopped running altogether.
2004: Howard Dean screams and his entire political career is ended. Today: Gym Jordan covers up widespread sexual abuse of kids by a former colleague. Eh, nothing to see here. How times have changed.
It's always been like that pal. Look at the Clintons if u wanna see some wild stuff. Or even the Kennedys unfortunately... there was some abuse there too.
This was before social media. Nowadays meme magic would have helped him but for whatever reason mainstream media didn't like it so everyone from Chapelle to Colbert made fun of him and it killed his career. Multi million dollar bullying.
It wasn’t just mainstream media. Jib Jab, the original meme lords on 90s internet, had his head explode at the end of his speech. People really don’t believe how fast memes in the 90# could go viral, but they did. King Fu Baby, Dancing Baby and some animations from Jib Jab all went viral.
Well wasn't the only one all his fellow Republicans were laughing at him too. He wasn't that popular with the party at the time. The Republican party wasn't so easy pursued back then as they are now. Now they accept anyone because they are desperate for votes.
@@hiddenalias3965 They were told “this is ridiculous” and nodded their heads, basically. A ton of people out there don’t think critically and sort of passively accept the pervading message, whatever it is
You've got to realize that months, even years, before the first primary that the parties know who their candidate will be. The rest is just political theater as the ones they don't want either step down or removed if they buck the tiger. This guy bucked.
It just goes to show how powerful the media is at manipulating people's feelings/opinions. Just look at all the zombies who parrot Fox News word-for-word. It's really scary how easy manipulation, indoctrination, and brainwashing is when you think about it.
@@GalaxyStandard77 In my state (South Dakota) write-in candidates are not allowed. The same is true for Louisiana, Nevada, & Oklahoma. In Mississippi it's only allowed for substitutions. This is as of the 2020 presidental election. I'm unsure if it's changed for other states as of then. But for South Dakota, in the 2022 primaries we still could not write in people.
From my scrambled memory, Dean had somewhat Progressive views and so the media was looking for any excuse to take him down. The TV media got the call that they all should focus day and night on the scream since beating his platform was a more difficult task.
@@sonnysad905 The media landscape was "different" in 2004 from now. Like I said, he was critical of the invasion of Iraq, which was endorsed by virtually every major news agency and celebrity.
HIs campaign was where my belief in american politics died. I was young, it was the first election I was able to vote it, and I was for this guy. The media lost their minds, it made it very obvious to me who was paying the bills. How easy we are all to manipulate. Am I better? No. We all have to lose our innocence some time.
@@Fred-tz7hs this is literally the opposite of redpilled lmao. Dean was and still is a Democrat, this commenter was voting for him but realized how dumb our political system is when the media turned on him for a goofy scream.
I very much remember this, it was so insanely dumb when it happened. It’s even more insane now, in retrospect, after how many things certain politicians have been able to do and get away with every day for the last six years.
I could get behind a moderate whose government accomplishments include balancing their state’s budget and lowering taxes, and who graduated from medical school tbh.
I fucking love this video, like 10 years ago I used to make my steam account “Howard dean” and just scream “YAHHHHHHH” at people in csgo matches lol. Haven’t thought about that in years
Omg this scream has sat in the cobwebs of my mind for so long and wouldn't have ever been able to find where it was from if it weren't for this. As soon as I heard it, it brushed off all the dust. What a time to be alive back then. He was 00s "meme"d so much.
only sank his career cause he was against war and wanted universal healthcare. straight up had he been saying some southern strategy bs i don’t think anyone would’ve cared
@@Aurelius_unofficial Unfortunately a lot of the shitty things politicians do is perfectly legal. Corruption is legal in America, and most anti-corruption laws we have are from bygone eras where there was at least majority concern over corruption. Can you imagine something like the Church Committee or the Tillman Act today? I sure can’t.
The scream wasn't even that embarrassing or cringe - Howard Dean was just in the mood lol. The media picked it up and ran with it until it became a problem.
Today it would've trended on Twitter for 2 days and everyone would've forgotten it after that. It's honestly not that noteworthy and it feels like people got psyopped into finding it wacky.
It’s how deprived of memes we were back then. People consider shit going viral now when it’s a hundred thousand people or so. Back then, millions of people would see it because those were the only memes we had.
This is such a weird moment in history. I feel like I'm looking in on some alien civilization whenever someone talks about this. "Yeah Forzle the Greater was well in the running for Grand Supreme Zorthof, but his career ended as soon as he screamed enthusiastically one time in a kinda weird way and during an otherwise appropriate moment in a speech."
@@seyersusej8329 its not very expected and not normal at all. How is showing genuine emotion weird. Are you expected to keep all emotions inside? That sounds like a good path to develop mental disorder
lol I remember that moment. I actually felt kinda bad for him. Dude was just excited and wanted to share that excitement. Sure it was a goofy scream but I don't think his career deserved to be ruined by it.
From the looks of it, this guy was pretty much the Bernie Sanders of the early 2000s and of course America can’t have SoCiAlIsM mucking about so politicians/the media were looking for any reason to snuff him out
At its core, the Dean Scream really is a sad story and you treated it with the respect it deserves. Thank you Charles. This story reminds me of another unwarranted celebrity demise which has always bothered me… That of Rock Artist Billy Squire. He caught so much flak for his cringeworthy “Rock Me Tonight” video (btw, a fantastic song) that he was never taken seriously again as an artist and now he’s a just a footnote in the archives of best music of the 1980’s. Again, great thought provoking piece. TY. Cheers from Boston
Yea, I mean he was just excited and that was his excited voice. I think it's funny and weird, but it's nothing like the last 4 presidents we've had. Bush Jr. takes the cake for saying dumb shit. Obama's voice and tone is so repetitive that you can tell he rehearsed all his speeches. Trump sounded like a evil villain. Biden is probably senile. All those presidents I mentioned were goofy during their election runs before they were ever president. Biden literally said if you vote for Trump you aren't black. Like wtf? He said that when he was running for office too.
George Bush addressing the country on war and terrorism: “and now watch this drive” as he hits a golf ball. Biden’s moments are more sad and pathetic than goofy, he is clearing struggling with at least dementia if not early Alzheimer’s. Trump on the other hand was an entertainer and I loved every second of it.
I was alive for this. I remember this was parodied all over the place. Someone made a video with horror music and a slow transition to a red tone as he goes through the states and then does the "Dean Scream", making him look unhinged but hilarious. I only remember it because Chappelle's skit and that video had me laughing when I was a kid. It is pretty crazy what will tank a politician's career. It's rarely ever anything legitimate.
@@rockandrollfantasy86 Statistically, yes, but with the new year, 2004 was 19 years ago. A lot of people watching Charlie are older teens. The vibe of his content certainly fits that demographic.
I mean, I would find it admirable if he would own up to that scream and made it a "selling point" of his. This just shouts confidence and courage, both are great
It’s depressing how one moment of simultaneous triumph, defiance and joy ruined everything for this poor man. Sometimes being happy is the very thing that threatens to destroy us at any given moment
I don’t know anything about his policies but I thought the Howard Dean scream was endearing. If I wasn’t seeing what others were saying, it would have made me like him more
The British equivalent to this is ed millibands career being completely ended and his chance at prime minister shattered, while running for party leader, because he ate a bacon butty wrong
Well getting jailed at the Tower of London with a scheduled hanging really puts a damper in anyone's plans. One does not simply butter their crumpets wrong with impunity
We watched a video on this when I was in highschool. From the way it was presented there, the bigger issue was the rest of his yelling. He was being recorded with a directional mic, so alot of the sound that the crowd was making wasn't picked up. As a result, it comes across like he's shouting at the crowd, when in reality he was hyping up a crowd that was much louder and much more enthusiastic than the clip would suggest.
Damn this unlocked memories. I used to do the "BYAAHHHH" in quiet movie theaters. Right after the previews at that quiet moment before the actual movies start. I'm like in my 30s now. Was a teen at the time hahah
People here explain why this made him lose, I still cant phantom why... it sounds like a cowboy scream which they make when they are on a horse... thats all.
I still don’t know. This was the first presidential primary I was able to participate in. He would have had my vote. I remember back then thinking “he just sounds enthusiastic, isn’t that good?” It’s totally bizarre and you look at what passes today.
Back then Republicans weren't going for the outback southern cowboy vibe like they do today. We were at war and everyone took everything seriously as bands and celebrities were being cancled for speaking out against the war. Look up "what happened to the Dixie Chicks"
@Aerys Targaryen II This was for the Democratic nomination, so it didnt really involve republicans that much. Plus Dubya's persona was more of an old school Texan.
And the fact that Chappelle put a "b" at the beginning and made it "byaww" was just the funniest fucking thing in the world at the time. Just such unbelievably good comedy back then.
I knew exactly who you were talking about just on the title alone. Dude may have single handledly changed the course of history just because he was happy.
I’ll never understand how a pretty wholesome moment where he was just extremely excited could completely rank his career. Like the guy didn’t say or do anything wrong, he just let out a little goofy yell.
It was a different time basically, back then eccentric or over the top behavior wasn't good for public image, nowadays politicians can get away with the goofiest shit
the dark conspricy theory goes. his scream was added later or pitched up to be annoying to people dureing the news brodcast which often happens around dinner time in amrarica. Thus familys would be eating or conversing. The loud high pitched nature of the scream would annoy them and interupt. Which would in turn make them hostile and sub consusly dislike the guy.
Dean Howard was actually cancelled for the whole speech. He was trying to talk against the very loud ballroom that he was in which made him scream through and through, while the microphone had a noise cancellation on. So people watching it on TV only saw a very loud, red headed man, screaming. That is what actually killed it, not the "Yeah" part.
6:52 Jesus i was in the process of writing those words… props to chat for knowing about audio designers, the Wilhelm scream, etc. if it blends in enough that they wouldn’t get in trouble, they absolutely love sneaking in some easter eggs. You know we all would in that position.
In gov we talked about this. Turns out all of the reporters on site had not written ANYTHING about the scream. When asked they really didnt understand what people were talking about until they looked at the videos. It was all a camera audio feature that ruined his career. The crowd was actually much louder than you could hear in the video because the mic dampened all background noise. So the scream actually matched the audio levels of the crowd IRL, but when its isolated it looked goofy as hell. His career didnt just end because of a scream, it ended because his voice was isolated and amplified over everyone elses making him look crazy.
The Dean Scream was the excuse given, but his campaign wasn't headed in the right direction before that speech. He was the democratic favorite going into the primaries, but he didn't perform so well in the first 2 states. The general feeling was that voter momentum was turning against Howard Dean and this response wasn't seen as 'presidential' (how far we've come in less than 2 decades). I don't think the 'scream' affected primary results.
Yeah a lot of people have revisionist history or just have the facts muddied when it comes to the dean scream Unfortunately this was the nail in the coffin for his campaign tho, we never know if he coulda turned it around or not
He was doomed from the start. He was the only Democratic front runner that was against the Iraq war. Any slip up the media would have pounced on. He was lucky it was just a voice crack.
How dare that politician act human. I want robotic speech and awkward hand movements
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@@spiralphoenix9839 hyaaaaaaa!
you want mark zuckerberg?
@@augustuslex No he wants Trump, the unprofessional.
This actually made me sad. He was just excited and he lost his whole career over it that blows
Yeah he was actually a pretty good politician too, much better (and more popular) than Kerry, and miles better than any presidential candidate we've had since.
He was just really excited. He should have been able to feel that way and everyone took it from him. 😭
The scream wasn't even that bad. It just shows how most people like to act like sheep.
@@Very_Nice_and_Polite_Person *ahem* Bernie *ahem*
@@carmensmith5437 I just wanna give him a hug and say “you can be my scream king”
This man was ahead of his time. If this occurred nowadays, nobody would bat an eye.
"America is a nation that can be defined in a single word azufootaminafootafoot" the current president
yep
Now the literal president of the United States can ratio you on Twitter and no one cares lol
This reminds me of that animation someone made where Kerry and Bush verbally face off while singing a parody of This Land is Your Land, since Dean was featured in it.
@@digidv85 Maaaan what a deep cut. JibJab fell off in like, 2009.
I actually thought it was gonna be cringe af but it wasn’t that bad…. He seemed hyped 😔
Exactly this shit is sad
As cringe person, I feel like that was quite an ok scream 😄
kinda wholesome tbh
Yeah it was a nothing burger
Chapelles skit about it was more cringe that the actual scream.
Maybe he thought that by sounding like a screaming eagle everyone would become even more patriotic and vote for him
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@fours05 🇬🇧 🗿
The bots are racist now
lol hes actually just an eagle on the inside it came out when he got excited
These bots holy shit
there are politicians who openly lie and will say one thing one day and literally the opposite the next day but this dude lost his career over a scream that’s so sad
Insightful words Draymond.
@@godnotavailable2094 thank you
It would have been no big deal if the corporate, multinational, fake news media didn’t ram it down everyone’s throats. The current president should resign because of the Twitter files, but the media is silent because they are in bed with the Uniparty. What’s sad is how people refuse to think for themselves.
It's almost as if humans don't choose their leaders using reason and logicz
The guy was just being authentic and I feel that's more recognized and appreciated these days
except for when its trump
@@averynorth9551 Imagine trying to insert Trump into a conversation about authenticity the day his tax returns were forcefully released to the public by Congress. Gtfo of here.
@@averynorth9551 he's not authentic at all lol
@@averynorth9551 he said authentic
The media shaped this as a bad thing.
It’s so absolutely insane to me that a politicians career was tanked over a scream. Meanwhile we have politicians who have done 100 times worse and getting popular
Yeah this 1 was incredibly stupid. His “scream” wasn’t even that wild lol
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@fours05 🇬🇧 Ahh beautiful. bots...
From what I remember (I was a kid back then tho), his career and campaign were already going downhill. The scream was just a convenient excuse, the final straw that broke the camel's back.
@fours05 🇬🇧 Most normal Brit:
I want this guy hyping up my daily life. “He’s going to the bedroom, and the bathroom, and the shower, and the breakfast table. YEAHHH”
imagine having this as an alarm clock
Why is there so many bots here 😭😭
Damn bro really copy pasted
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It wasn't even that bad. I was expecting something more absurd like an R2-D2 scream.
Same 😭
@YeaMan Go away.
I was expecting something like "best cry ever"
He could boost up the entire city of Monsters Inc. with his scream.
@aszassiin 🅥 I have not subscribed after translating. I will let y'all know if I die
He gets cancelled over a scream, no wonder us politics are insane
in the post 9/11 world, it was unacceptable to be excited about anything other than kicking osama bin laden's ass
Us?
@@justkon1789 united states idk
Not sure if cancelled is the right term but don’t act like politics is any better in the rest of the world. Politics sucks everywhere
@@Dog-lg5ju nah your system is extra rotten. You say you live in a democracy and votes in different states count different. Also you only have to parties. Us system is extra fucked up.
So for anyone who's confused as to why this was a career killer. At the time it was a popular naritive in the media that Howard Dean was a loose canon and a bit unstable, so when he did the "Dean Scream" it only reinforced that, then as Charlie mentioned, Chappell would put the final nail in the coffin. Which is sad and ironic because we (in my opinion) had already elected loose canons, like then Colorado governor Bill Owens. Who during the "killdozer" incident in Granby, demanded that an Apache helicopter be sent to the scene so it could rain hellfire missiles on the bulldozer and town, which displayed no aggressive behaviour to people.
The Bulldozer guy was firing rifle rounds at massive propane tanks and ran through buildings.
It was very aggressive.
Only luck stopped death that day.
@@hhiippiittyyand the good old boys in granby did every last scummy thing they could to fuck over Marvin heemeyer. They deserved what was coming to them.
@@hhiippiittyy Nooooooo. The guy specifically targeted government buildings, houses of politicians, and other targets of the government that has fucked him over his entire life. He never once targeted or unintentionally harmed normal civilian lives or buildings. Yeah, he was unstoppable and absolutely demolishing the city but he was not shooting guns or blowing shit up. DO NOT mistell the story.
The dude only carried one gun and that was to kill himself with at the end of his rampage. He welded himself inside that bulldozer so no one can stop him until he was done. There was no way he could shoot guns and blow things up.
On top of that. It wasn't "luck" that stopped his rampage. Dude knew what he was doing and purposely didn't harm anyone but himself.
@@hhiippiittyy
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@@hhiippiittyy Marvin is not a villain, in fact, in some ways a resembles a Shakespearian tragic hero. The main problem with Marvin is that ultimately his actions did not solve the problem of corruption he faced, and nobody could claim he came out the victor.
The Killdozer also had three guns mounted, a .50 cal Baret M82 at the rear, a 5.52mm FN FNC semi-automatic at the front, and a .223 Ruger Mini-14 on the right. He also had two side arms, one of which he used to commit suicide. Despite the weapons, Killdozer never actually killed anyone or seriously attempted to, and Marvin ended up being the only casualty.
To think our entire country’s history could’ve been changed if he hadn’t screamed…
To think if the Usa weren't fucking retarded, they would've changed already. The scream had nothing to do with it.
Kinda scary, actually. Goes to show how impulsive and unpredictable people are. A little bit of social awkwardness literally ruined a career and caused a whole new political timeline, it's crazy
@@nickcunningham6344 I mean it's happening right now lol look at how some mean tweets and MSM's agenda skewed the legitimacy of our elections and people willingly voted in a senile racist zombie who's super weird with children 😂
@@nickcunningham6344 wasn't his fault, it was stupid media talking about nothing else for 3 weeks
@@nickcunningham6344 Our Democracy could've been great. Instead, we're a couple years from losing everything.
I fucking love that we're talking about this. Dean scream meme is something that should never die.
Absolutely eccentric lol
*Rick Astley has entered the chat*
I doubt it ever will. At this point it's become practically as iconic as the Wilhelm scream.
I am not american and I dont get it...I tried...I googled...I dont find an answer. Why did this ruin his career? It just sounds a little corny but...whats the deal? I understand Dave Chapelle clowned on it but how is it that deep?
@@calistafalcontail It ruined his career because people don't like people screaming and shit.
if he screamed nowadays he would be on every youtube meme channel
And unlike then, he'd have a dedicated social media team who's primary job would be to ride it out and lean into it
he already is bro look at what you're watching
YTMND and a lot of the other websites that were big back before TH-cam were roasting him pretty hard. I'm gonna go see if any of those old gifs exist anymore just out of curiosity lol.
Nah it was back then and that's why he lost. He turned into a joke on every ytmnd and youtube video.
I doubt it. No one would even notice, that's as generic a whoop as can be.
Saddest thing is that It wasn't really the scream, a few people made fun of it and the rest joined, even if no one really thought much of it. t's the Nickelback effect, most of us are just dumb apes.
Charlie screams :
- Career improves
- Always a meme material
Politician screams :
- Career ruined
@@fours02 nah
Lol
I will give you a non-bot comment.
Here’s another non bot comment. Ignore the Hitler wannabe, people. He’s an attention seeker.
@@thebotdestroyer852 I’m gonna join in, I feel bad for them
How tf did that end his career?? I was expecting him to do something...more cringe? Morally reprehensible? Why are politics like this-
People are alot more open to social weirdness these days. Exposure to different cultures and people of all walks of life all over the world through the internet has broadened the minds of society as a whole, so we're alot less likely now to judge someone for being "weird" or "abnormal".
Internet was around in 2004 obviously, but it was just sorta starting to get big so it was still pretty common to judge people based on superficial things like that.
You gotta think how the world absolutely destroyed the Star Wars Kid over a video that honestly isn't that bad, his moves were not awful he was just somewhat overweight and it was weird to see someone doing something like that.
Slightly weird back then was a social death sentence.
Apparently the vid went viral shortly after some minor losses. So when the scream hit, the media ran with it as yet another gaff.
@aszassiin 🅥 tbh id rather die
@aszassiin 🅥 I would rather die.
Every MSM outlet took this blunder and ran heavily with it. Howard Dean's reputation went from "lovable American man" to "man with moronic scream" and that's all people began to know him by. Dean was loved by most and both Democrats and Republicans began making fun of him for it. Eventually Dean stopped running altogether.
It was only a scream
How could they do this to Dean
It was only a scream
It was only a scream
Mr. Brightside.
maybe it was jealousy
Guess that's just the price he paid
Mr. Byahside
@@-_minttea_-5841 if the price is rightside
2004: Howard Dean screams and his entire political career is ended.
Today: Gym Jordan covers up widespread sexual abuse of kids by a former colleague. Eh, nothing to see here.
How times have changed.
its not like there was no abuse and crime among politicians in 2004, nono
I mena that sort has just always been a thing in politics.
Gaetz is publicly sending 200 dollars to underage girls labeled sex and living with a 12 year old cuban boy. Nothing to see
It's always been like that pal. Look at the Clintons if u wanna see some wild stuff. Or even the Kennedys unfortunately... there was some abuse there too.
It's not like people didn't get away with that in 2004. If anything, the online climate has changed in a way that let's sexual abuse easier to expose.
This was before social media. Nowadays meme magic would have helped him but for whatever reason mainstream media didn't like it so everyone from Chapelle to Colbert made fun of him and it killed his career.
Multi million dollar bullying.
It wasn’t just mainstream media. Jib Jab, the original meme lords on 90s internet, had his head explode at the end of his speech. People really don’t believe how fast memes in the 90# could go viral, but they did. King Fu Baby, Dancing Baby and some animations from Jib Jab all went viral.
I still don’t understand why people didn’t like it tho?
Well wasn't the only one all his fellow Republicans were laughing at him too. He wasn't that popular with the party at the time. The Republican party wasn't so easy pursued back then as they are now. Now they accept anyone because they are desperate for votes.
I assume he had a policy promise they didn't like, so they found any excuse
@@hiddenalias3965 They were told “this is ridiculous” and nodded their heads, basically. A ton of people out there don’t think critically and sort of passively accept the pervading message, whatever it is
Scream seemed totally natural and the appropriate energy for the moment imo. It's hard to tell how loud the crowd behind him is screaming in his ears
WHAT?!? Why would that scream affect anyone's opinion of him? That's so odd!
The media had it out for him and they finally found the incredibly shallow chip that they were able to dig into
You've got to realize that months, even years, before the first primary that the parties know who their candidate will be. The rest is just political theater as the ones they don't want either step down or removed if they buck the tiger. This guy bucked.
This is when people still got their news and opinions from real newspapers, and only a few of them. Those writers decided to destroy him.
@@Ukraineaissance2014 the media shills are really satan's advocates huh...
Just americans being americans
I remember wondering why someone so passionate was losing. Was hoping he'd run again so I could vote for em.
@baf.l my friend, that's just pissing your vote into the wind, especially in Vermont at the time.
That and I wasn't able to vote by then either.
@baf.l look I get it, but you're not convincing me of the reality of Vermont politics in 2004.
It just goes to show how powerful the media is at manipulating people's feelings/opinions. Just look at all the zombies who parrot Fox News word-for-word. It's really scary how easy manipulation, indoctrination, and brainwashing is when you think about it.
@@computaterjones i vote for Abraham Lincoln every time im in the ballot.
@@GalaxyStandard77 In my state (South Dakota) write-in candidates are not allowed. The same is true for Louisiana, Nevada, & Oklahoma. In Mississippi it's only allowed for substitutions. This is as of the 2020 presidental election. I'm unsure if it's changed for other states as of then. But for South Dakota, in the 2022 primaries we still could not write in people.
From my scrambled memory, Dean had somewhat Progressive views and so the media was looking for any excuse to take him down. The TV media got the call that they all should focus day and night on the scream since beating his platform was a more difficult task.
Apparently, he'd denounced the 2003 invasion of Iraq. But I'm sure that's just a coincidence.
The media trying to take down someone progressive? Oh please 🤦♂️
@@sonnysad905 The media landscape was "different" in 2004 from now. Like I said, he was critical of the invasion of Iraq, which was endorsed by virtually every major news agency and celebrity.
Had your right now he's a Roger stone type guy for the right
Nailed it!
This is still my default sound for when I'm excited. As a 33yr old, white Midwesterner I have "ope" and "byaah!".
Yep, same! XD
byeah
And don’t forget to tell your folks I said hi!
HIs campaign was where my belief in american politics died. I was young, it was the first election I was able to vote it, and I was for this guy. The media lost their minds, it made it very obvious to me who was paying the bills. How easy we are all to manipulate. Am I better? No. We all have to lose our innocence some time.
based redpill moment
What was the media response though? I don’t understand how this could make someone look bad?
@@Fred-tz7hs how is this redpilled?
@@jeltje50 it means he had an awakening that day
@@Fred-tz7hs this is literally the opposite of redpilled lmao. Dean was and still is a Democrat, this commenter was voting for him but realized how dumb our political system is when the media turned on him for a goofy scream.
I very much remember this, it was so insanely dumb when it happened. It’s even more insane now, in retrospect, after how many things certain politicians have been able to do and get away with every day for the last six years.
Like trump's russian collusion
It's not insanely dumb at all, it's not even remotely dumb. It's just some dude going "YeAhhh". Not even that weird
@@appleseedgames6934 group think is a terrible thing
I could get behind a moderate whose government accomplishments include balancing their state’s budget and lowering taxes, and who graduated from medical school tbh.
@@appleseedgames6934 mob mentality, none of those people back then could think for themselves
Was it cringe? Yeah. Was it career ending material. No. Poor dude was running in the wrong times.
Not even cringe. I see clips 100x cringer than that daily from people with massive followings
@Bruh Bruh dude you have 1 vid with fake views, gtfo
I didn't even find it cringe
Being enthusiastic is cringe
@@Im.Smaher ok doomer
Knowing more about the media now, I have to wonder if they kept replaying the scream to purposefully tank his campaign.
They did, he was against the Iraq war and they wanted to assassinate his character
@@chinsaw2727 OMG America wanted to get rid of a guy against their pointless war? who would have thought!!!!!
@@antekknapek4635 Wavywebsurf has a good video about it. I’m just spreading the truth
that is exactly what they did.
Quite probably. He was one of the more progressive candidates at the time. Against the Iraq war and in favor of universal health care.
And there isn't A SINGLE DROP of sweat on that shirt. That's amazing.
Bro I would vote for this guy just because of the scream lol
Solid reasoning...
I'm glad you didn't have the opportunity to vote
@@sort6726 Right, unlike now where he'll be able to vote for all the great options you got these days.
@@MichaelDavis-mk4me ah yes, that apparently justify trash reasons for voting.
Honey crumbs when we eat bees stung beefsteak bootyclapomega
This was so funny because people have done much worse things with no consequences but a scream was career ending
Sometime screams can start careers. This time, they’ve ended one.
Yeah, way to soon to run, but we look back at it fondly.
@fours02 🇬🇧 man's really said the gamer word
@fours02 🇬🇧 Dang, even for a bot that's wild..
@fours02 🇬🇧 uh oh! That’s the gam3r w0rd! I’m black and I’m not really offended
@@fours02 crackers🤣
I fucking love this video, like 10 years ago I used to make my steam account “Howard dean” and just scream “YAHHHHHHH” at people in csgo matches lol.
Haven’t thought about that in years
Let's goooo, time to squad up bruv? Howard squad?
Wanna play sometimes
Omg this scream has sat in the cobwebs of my mind for so long and wouldn't have ever been able to find where it was from if it weren't for this. As soon as I heard it, it brushed off all the dust. What a time to be alive back then. He was 00s "meme"d so much.
Same but as soon as i saw the thumbnail I instantly remembered
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Honey crumbs when we eat bees stung beefsteak bootyclapomega
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It's weird to think about how that scream could sink a campaign. Politicians must have been walking on eggshells back then.
@aszassiin 🅥 we all gonna die bro wtf
Christ sakes
Well anyway
If only we were this strict on politicians in regards to like
Human rights, not breaking the law, ect
People are brainwashed that's why
only sank his career cause he was against war and wanted universal healthcare. straight up had he been saying some southern strategy bs i don’t think anyone would’ve cared
@@Aurelius_unofficial Unfortunately a lot of the shitty things politicians do is perfectly legal. Corruption is legal in America, and most anti-corruption laws we have are from bygone eras where there was at least majority concern over corruption.
Can you imagine something like the Church Committee or the Tillman Act today? I sure can’t.
The scream wasn't even that embarrassing or cringe - Howard Dean was just in the mood lol. The media picked it up and ran with it until it became a problem.
Fr, I thought it was gonna be something crazy but it's a normal scream, kinda underwhelming
I wouldn't even call it a scream, its just an exclaimed yeahh
They ran with it because he was against the Iraq war.
The Dean Scream is an ABSOLUTE CLASSIC
I love when Charlie comes out of nowhere talking about some old ass shit 😂 👌
The meatriding is crazy
The five previous replies really think they've just said some knee slappers.
Bots be going crazy lately
@@Pack_Watch your mother does it best
@fours02 🇬🇧 stop saying the n word on all of Charlie's videos, I can't like them all.
Today it would've trended on Twitter for 2 days and everyone would've forgotten it after that. It's honestly not that noteworthy and it feels like people got psyopped into finding it wacky.
CNN had it out for him and did an entire smear campaign
It’s how deprived of memes we were back then. People consider shit going viral now when it’s a hundred thousand people or so. Back then, millions of people would see it because those were the only memes we had.
Nah the "Nyaah" sound is a goat tier meme, yall r just uncultured
@@prolastmedia6171 anything Jeb did or said clears Dean unfortunately
This is such a weird moment in history. I feel like I'm looking in on some alien civilization whenever someone talks about this. "Yeah Forzle the Greater was well in the running for Grand Supreme Zorthof, but his career ended as soon as he screamed enthusiastically one time in a kinda weird way and during an otherwise appropriate moment in a speech."
i was 6 at the time, but somehow i remember seeing this on tv while i sat next to my dad. all he said was "oh wow, well that was weird"
A very expected and normal response from your dad, bravo lol
Why is this so funny to me
@@seyersusej8329 its not very expected and not normal at all. How is showing genuine emotion weird. Are you expected to keep all emotions inside? That sounds like a good path to develop mental disorder
It is sad that this ended his career, but Mitt Romney still had one after he thought saying "who let the dogs out" to black teens made him cool.
White people probably loved that shit lmao.
Reminds me of Biden playing Despacito for hispanics
@@SaucyAlfredo forget apples and oranges, this is oranges and imaginary squids
@@cmg2853 I mean, I did. Only because it was really funny.
@@Nat0521 I've literally seen the video
lol I remember that moment. I actually felt kinda bad for him. Dude was just excited and wanted to share that excitement. Sure it was a goofy scream but I don't think his career deserved to be ruined by it.
From the looks of it, this guy was pretty much the Bernie Sanders of the early 2000s and of course America can’t have SoCiAlIsM mucking about so politicians/the media were looking for any reason to snuff him out
As an old head, I remember this 😂 it sounds even better now than it did when I was 14
You were 14 at the time, and that makes you an old head? 😅
@@VinnytotheK i mean compared to his age before thats pretty much older and header
What will you call yourself when you hit 35?
@@VinnytotheK It's pretty old for cr1tikal's audience, which is mostly comprised of 14 year olds nowadays
Honey crumbs when we eat bees stung beefsteak bootyclapomega
At its core, the Dean Scream really is a sad story and you treated it with the respect it deserves. Thank you Charles.
This story reminds me of another unwarranted celebrity demise which has always bothered me… That of Rock Artist Billy Squire.
He caught so much flak for his cringeworthy “Rock Me Tonight” video (btw, a fantastic song) that he was never taken seriously again as an artist and now he’s a just a footnote in the archives of best music of the 1980’s.
Again, great thought provoking piece. TY.
Cheers from Boston
I'm not familiar with him but I think he was done dirty
Yea, I mean he was just excited and that was his excited voice. I think it's funny and weird, but it's nothing like the last 4 presidents we've had. Bush Jr. takes the cake for saying dumb shit. Obama's voice and tone is so repetitive that you can tell he rehearsed all his speeches. Trump sounded like a evil villain. Biden is probably senile. All those presidents I mentioned were goofy during their election runs before they were ever president. Biden literally said if you vote for Trump you aren't black. Like wtf? He said that when he was running for office too.
George Bush addressing the country on war and terrorism: “and now watch this drive” as he hits a golf ball. Biden’s moments are more sad and pathetic than goofy, he is clearing struggling with at least dementia if not early Alzheimer’s. Trump on the other hand was an entertainer and I loved every second of it.
@@kerrick7621 "now watch this drive" was at least hilarious
Behind Howard Dean is the most eager looking old man I've ever seen. He is so ready.
I actually feel bad for him, it's so crazy what little things ppl will find to rip on
Imagine he spent his whole life working up to get to that spot and he just screams and loses everything he’s ever worked for
If he had Charlie as a running mate, Howard would be unstoppable.
*Howard:* _"BYAAAAH!"_
*Charlie:* _"WOOOOOOOOOOOO!"_
The guy's scream may ended his entire career, but he could boost the entire city's electricity of _Monsters Inc._
Lmao
I was alive for this. I remember this was parodied all over the place. Someone made a video with horror music and a slow transition to a red tone as he goes through the states and then does the "Dean Scream", making him look unhinged but hilarious.
I only remember it because Chappelle's skit and that video had me laughing when I was a kid.
It is pretty crazy what will tank a politician's career. It's rarely ever anything legitimate.
Pretty sure most people were alive in 2004.
@@rockandrollfantasy86 Statistically, yes, but with the new year, 2004 was 19 years ago. A lot of people watching Charlie are older teens. The vibe of his content certainly fits that demographic.
A politician will SA someone and no one bats an eye but if this guy screams excitedly, it’s over. The US is so backwards.
It’s a testament to how easily influenced people are, or not putting it nicely; how stupid the average person really is.
If all it took was one scream to end this guy's political career, you know there was some shady string-pulling shit going on in the background.
The fact that his scream was actually on breaking bad is so fuckin funny
Bravo, Vince
It’s impossible to guess Charlie’s next upload
@fours02 🇬🇧 well said
Wow the bots… but yea I agree
It will never be another weed shop 3 😞
@Patrick39 no youre Patrick
@fours02 🇬🇧 only the British
Howard dean sounds like a breakfast sausage brand
Jimmy deans little brother
I mean, I would find it admirable if he would own up to that scream and made it a "selling point" of his. This just shouts confidence and courage, both are great
I like how the old dude behind him cheers him on and thumbs up behind him after the scream 🤣
👴👍
I feel so bad his smile right after the scream was so wholesome and the speech was awesome poor guy didn’t deserve that I loved that scream
It’s depressing how one moment of simultaneous triumph, defiance and joy ruined everything for this poor man. Sometimes being happy is the very thing that threatens to destroy us at any given moment
I don’t know anything about his policies but I thought the Howard Dean scream was endearing. If I wasn’t seeing what others were saying, it would have made me like him more
you are 5 years old
@@Fred-tz7hs too much manosphere moment
@@Fred-tz7hs monke
The British equivalent to this is ed millibands career being completely ended and his chance at prime minister shattered, while running for party leader, because he ate a bacon butty wrong
Well getting jailed at the Tower of London with a scheduled hanging really puts a damper in anyone's plans.
One does not simply butter their crumpets wrong with impunity
Didn’t Kinnock do a strange yell at a party conference in Sheffield which supposedly tanked his campaign?
wow that's awful lol
Yep
What's a bacon butty? I've never heard that term.
We watched a video on this when I was in highschool. From the way it was presented there, the bigger issue was the rest of his yelling. He was being recorded with a directional mic, so alot of the sound that the crowd was making wasn't picked up. As a result, it comes across like he's shouting at the crowd, when in reality he was hyping up a crowd that was much louder and much more enthusiastic than the clip would suggest.
4:12
Charlie would be the perfect campaign manager for him.
Imagine the Dean Scream and “Yeaaah Baby” at the same time.
Unstoppable
Damn this unlocked memories. I used to do the "BYAAHHHH" in quiet movie theaters. Right after the previews at that quiet moment before the actual movies start. I'm like in my 30s now. Was a teen at the time hahah
Holy shit, I'm dying! 😆🤣That is so funny! I would have loved to have you as a friend, bet you were so fun.
People here explain why this made him lose, I still cant phantom why... it sounds like a cowboy scream which they make when they are on a horse... thats all.
I still don’t know. This was the first presidential primary I was able to participate in. He would have had my vote. I remember back then thinking “he just sounds enthusiastic, isn’t that good?” It’s totally bizarre and you look at what passes today.
Back then Republicans weren't going for the outback southern cowboy vibe like they do today. We were at war and everyone took everything seriously as bands and celebrities were being cancled for speaking out against the war. Look up "what happened to the Dixie Chicks"
@Aerys Targaryen II This was for the Democratic nomination, so it didnt really involve republicans that much. Plus Dubya's persona was more of an old school Texan.
@@lordluc422 yeah Texas by way of Connecticut, but their base bought it.
And the fact that Chappelle put a "b" at the beginning and made it "byaww" was just the funniest fucking thing in the world at the time. Just such unbelievably good comedy back then.
so ahead of his time. this man would be a hero today
I knew exactly who you were talking about just on the title alone.
Dude may have single handledly changed the course of history just because he was happy.
The power of news networks. It wasn't a big deal but all the news agencies made it a big deal.
1:19 I like the way how Charlie laughs when he screams.
I respect it, thats a respectable scream right there.
@YeaMan bro goofy ash 💀
I’ll never understand how a pretty wholesome moment where he was just extremely excited could completely rank his career.
Like the guy didn’t say or do anything wrong, he just let out a little goofy yell.
i feel so bad for him. he was literally just having fun and people bullied him for it. idk why people took it so personally
I... I dont understand... What was wrong with that scream?
It was a different time basically, back then eccentric or over the top behavior wasn't good for public image, nowadays politicians can get away with the goofiest shit
Because MSM said it was bad and people are sheep
looks like a nice guy and he looked so happy as well performing that lil scream
It wasn't even bad, just showed that he's passionate
I know. And what we have in the White House now is mentally challenged.
@@players7686 lmao ill always stand by trump
This is the greatest scream of all time
@incognito it's shown in the first minute
@incognito its a bot
What The Fuck.
I've never seen the two clips near side by side before. The attention to detail in the people behind Dave compared to the Howard video is pretty great
Yeah but no old guy doing a cute lil thumbs up lol
ITS LIKE A SPIRIT BOMB! I'm dying
2004 You're shamed for a silly scream, 2023 you are praised for committing a felony what a world we are in
Going through a great loss, your videos help me tremendously
Stay strong.
Stay strong man 🙏
I don't understand why do people hate him for screaming like that like who cares
the dark conspricy theory goes. his scream was added later or pitched up to be annoying to people dureing the news brodcast which often happens around dinner time in amrarica. Thus familys would be eating or conversing. The loud high pitched nature of the scream would annoy them and interupt. Which would in turn make them hostile and sub consusly dislike the guy.
@@housemouseshorts what the actual fck just because of a scream his career ended tf is wrong with america
@@housemouseshorts surry to bee a grammer alli, but their seems to bue a cuple spelin errurs in you're comnent
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Dean Howard was actually cancelled for the whole speech. He was trying to talk against the very loud ballroom that he was in which made him scream through and through, while the microphone had a noise cancellation on. So people watching it on TV only saw a very loud, red headed man, screaming. That is what actually killed it, not the "Yeah" part.
HE even look surprised that that noise came out of his own being
6:52 Jesus i was in the process of writing those words… props to chat for knowing about audio designers, the Wilhelm scream, etc. if it blends in enough that they wouldn’t get in trouble, they absolutely love sneaking in some easter eggs. You know we all would in that position.
It's so surreal to see a politician with energy and real, authentic emotion.
there is an entire wikipedia article about the Dean scream
To a lesser extent, Jen Bush’s “Please clap” was just as effective
It just shows you the false veneer of respectability politics had in the early 2000s
In gov we talked about this. Turns out all of the reporters on site had not written ANYTHING about the scream. When asked they really didnt understand what people were talking about until they looked at the videos.
It was all a camera audio feature that ruined his career. The crowd was actually much louder than you could hear in the video because the mic dampened all background noise. So the scream actually matched the audio levels of the crowd IRL, but when its isolated it looked goofy as hell.
His career didnt just end because of a scream, it ended because his voice was isolated and amplified over everyone elses making him look crazy.
Ahh yes a classic. The fact that I remember this, makes me feel so old.
Funny this would helped his career nowadays.
The Dean Scream was the excuse given, but his campaign wasn't headed in the right direction before that speech. He was the democratic favorite going into the primaries, but he didn't perform so well in the first 2 states. The general feeling was that voter momentum was turning against Howard Dean and this response wasn't seen as 'presidential' (how far we've come in less than 2 decades). I don't think the 'scream' affected primary results.
Yeah a lot of people have revisionist history or just have the facts muddied when it comes to the dean scream
Unfortunately this was the nail in the coffin for his campaign tho, we never know if he coulda turned it around or not
I feel bad for this man he looked like he enjoyed that scream
@@p-__ Wrong.
I love how he turns around like "did I do the right thing?"
it's almost scary how easily you can ruin your career, yet it’s strangely impressive
This happened in 2004 lol he‘d be called a legend if it happened today
Bro, it's been like 20 years. It's certainly not these days
@@proxyprone i know, my bad ;-;
He was doomed from the start. He was the only Democratic front runner that was against the Iraq war. Any slip up the media would have pounced on. He was lucky it was just a voice crack.
@@chinsaw2727 isn't being against war in general a good thing?
Man this just makes me feel sad, literally wasn't that bad of a scream yet everyone flamed him for it
Coming back to it its not nearly as bad as I remember. Id take this any day of the week over Trump or Biden trying to speak.
That scream would secure him the win these days.