DARKTHRONE's Fenriz interview on the Evils of Compression 2013 | Raw & Uncut
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Fenriz, imitable founder of Darkthrone, interviewed by Sam Dunn in 2013 for the documentary Metal Evolution: Extreme Metal. He talks about the influence of Slayer on early black metal, why he stopped wearing corpsepaint, and the evils of compression. This extended interview excerpt is presented raw and uncut, with new director's commentary.
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Fenriz in the beginning of the vid was SO fucking relieved when he knew he didn't have to talk about Varg/Euronymous/Dead lol. I felt his relief.
its interesting because it seems like Fenriz is one of those guys who just got along with everyone, he was pals with Euro, dead, and Varg, never got into the drama, it seems. says a lot about his character, I think.
@@GyroLamb Plot twist: Fenriz killed Euronymous.
Boobs.
@@GyroLamb glad hes not such a damn drama queen like many folks In the Nordic BM scene.
@Deangelo Junior fuck off nobody here cares
This guy is the living proof you don't have to be grim, angry and emotionless to be black metal.
Very true. He comes of as a person who is very secure with who he is and what he stands for and don't have to go over the top "macho" or whatever. He is down to earth and knows where he stands.
He knows the difference between performance and real life.
exactly it's cool to create grim or evil music but you don't have to be constantly try to prove that your a badass or whatever.
Aether Predator anger is an emotion you brick
Same as me :P
Fenriz is like the Ozzy Osbourne of Black Metal. He's one of the originators of the genre and he hasn't changed a bit in attitude since day one.
he doesn't even try to be edgy
Darkthrone is no where close to being the 'originator' of Black Metal. First Wave Black Metal bands such as Venom, Bathory, Celtic Frost and Hellhammer are the originators. Fenriz merely forged a more refined sound to the music.
There were prototypical heavy metal bands/songs before Black Sabbath. Helter Skelter by the Beatles is commonly referenced there. Mayhem probably were the tipping point for black metal being its own sound, but even Deathcrush wasn't there yet. Darkthrone came in with "black metal" a few years later once they'd given up their death metal sound to be more primitive, but by that point every other Norwegian metalhead was ready to jump on the bandwagon, so to speak.
One "minor" detail: Ozzy was sold out by his business-loving wife (called Sharon, in case you were wondering). Fenriz, however, is delightfully not cashing in on his success ;)
Nowhere near an originator
man you can physically feel how obsessed this guy is with music...it speaks out of every part of him,- this is true passion
I've discovered tons of music because of Fenriz, like Uriah Heep.
I love when he gets confused by the first question being about the band.
He instantly gets enthusiastic about the interview. Excellent interview by Sam
Gotta love Fenriz. One of the best people in metal, for sure.
666 likes 🤘🏼
Nah. He's cool at first but then it wears thin with his shifty responses and looks
Why can't he just admit that early Darkthrone was *Death metal* . He seemed to really struggle with that first question. And some really class A Death metal, indeed
Watch out youll upset some banger fan boys..
I could listen to Fenriz talk about shit all day. Such a wise man
How in the fuck is he wise?
@@spicecrop you kidding?
@@spicecrop He's been through some shit, he's a legendary musician (that alone makes him wise, music-wise.... cuz he has exp under his belt, a discography, etc... derp?) and etc.
Can you list any reasons he'd be un-wise? I'm sure we all have some ways that we "aren't wise", but for the most part, most people generally agree a guy like Fenriz is pretty "wise". And clearly he is, at least musically and in treating people with kindness, etc.
He needs a podcast. He really is a living metal encyclopedia. I like how he freely admits his influences. Darkthrone is \m/
Your wish has come true
Radio Fenriz and now Fenriz Metal Pact.
@@D-A-K =D
listen to radio fenriz
Never seen a Norwegian guy speaking so much with hands like an Italian. A real Latin.
I do that too sometimes.
Okay there buddy. He's Nordic. Your painfully obviously an italian. Thanks for the pasta, Haha.
@@shippo36able, pasta is Asian, Marco Polo brought it from there to Italy.
aahaha....
Black metal is about releasing your shackles from modern society so they don't have as much holding back their thoughts and emotions. Seems super obvious to me. I've heard different Norwegians say Varg talks too much for example.
He fucking acted out the word "bat" I lost it
Shotboy2000 -- I rewatched this to see that. Thank you for pointing it out lol. Adorable.
Fenriz is a stand up guy. Nothing can be more metal than him.
DollFishu Archspire
Rob Halford wearing a dildo hat is pretty metal.
His intelligence is only matched by his humility. A true role model for all ages.
1:34, 2:23, 3:58, 4:56, 7:30 - Thanks for the visual aids Fenriz! :P
When I'm not talking in my mother language, I feel a little bit uncomfortable, like "I'd be saying this a lot better in my country!", so I need to use more gestures to "support" my narrative. I guess this is what Fenriz is doing. I do very similar things as well.
7:30 is my favourite xD
Vital on both levels.
@@caioramalho22 My thoughts exactly.
He seems to have problem communicating in english his thoughts.
"I want drums to sound like drums." No truer words have been spoken. I'm not a Black Metal fan but this guy is the fucking truth.
"Dead from Morbid" classic
This guy has brought a lot of joy to my life, introducing bands like Aura Noir, Adrenaline OD, and the Punky albums Darkthrone made in the mid 2000s!
Two of my favs, Aura Noir and Adrenalin OD!!
Aura Noir is so cool!
When Fenriz starts talking music he reminds me of Tarrantino when he is talking about movies.
That guy is so much fun to watch and listen to. Hail Fenriz.
you got things wrong, he said he didn't like the direction Death took in the 90's, he fuckin loves the 80's Death just 90's Death is not his thing and this is his FUCKING OPINION, and if you think Darkthrone sucks well... i don't care
@@user-jg4dn2lu4e yeah in 90s death made some of the best albums in metal music... that thing didn't like to any black metal musician
He's adorable
He seems like a very nice guy unlike the alot of other people in the black metal scene
Most people in black metal are wimps masquerading behind satanic imagery. Fenriz is an awesome guy who doesn't rely on that.
most black metalheads are nice guys
oh come on,black metal has nothing to do with satanism,just learn a thing or two and then talk..
saying "black metal has nothing to do with satanism" is pretty silly. Sure it's not the goal of the movement and it can be argued it never was (if there ever was such a thing as a "goal", which I would argue there wasn't), but a ton of bands embrace satanism and "satanic" imagery is probably one of the most essential parts of black metal.
DeliciousDishes .............I'm talking about the first wave of black metal ( original black metal,bands like mayhem burzum emperor darkthrone bathory etc.. ) which had nothing to do with satanism(only with paganism),and yes there was a goal back in the 90's but when euronymous died everything changed,the ideology changed,you don't know the power of the original black metal,you don't know how much it helps people who are hurt,that it brings inner peace and many more...
Some legends say that when Fenriz and Burzum will play together live then Ragnarok will come.
made my fuckin day lol
Потому что ты любишь ебаный тупой юмор.Кусок ты говна.
you missed bathory
Then Ragnarok will never happen.
Varg is no longer into Metal. Hell, he doesn't even consider his music to be part of the BM scene and greatly disassociates himself with it. Go check out his channel, 'ThuleanPerspective' to know more about what he's upto.
"I just want drums to sound like drums" Dam right! Fuck these trigger heavy drums they just sound like a robot is playing them!
yes... so sick of modern robot metal. I want it to sound like actual human beings got in a room and started playing.
Yes! The Volcano drum sound just shows that metal does not need that clicky shit.
Unfortunately, a lot of bands use robo drums, though I think for most, it’s because they don’t have a drummer, rather than laziness (talking about underground bands)
@@paul1720 Sarcafago's Inri drums ❤
the first question, so well prepared, and Fenriz slaps it right back to him "oh, the band, i thought we gonna talk about black metal in general" 😂😂😂
Don't forget the classy move the interviewer makes in not interrupting him at that point and just letting him have his lamentation.
@Hunter Bockman I felt like he was more annoyed with what he thought the question was going to be. Like "oh, not again about this..." And then he was pleasantly surprised that it was just about Darkthrone... my impression
i seriously love this guy, the most respected from the black metal scene.
Fenriz is such an interesting person to listen to, he seems to know quite a lot. Please more interviews with him!
Yes, he is a pretty cool guy, though he is very humble. He isn't stuck up or anything. Apparently he has a podcast on soundcloud so you could probably check that out.
Are you Portuguese ?
More interviews with Fenriz! He has extensive knowledge about metal and he can talk about it in such an interesting way. A great musician and a living legend!
I like how into it he gets at certain parts, it makes him interesting to watch. And I must say, overall he's adorable.
You mean his hand gestures and face expressions?
Vinny V Basically, yeah.
So easy to fall in love with him for that lol, feel free to make fun of me for saying that.
This interview could be 2 hours longer
70's drums really do sound the best.
I love the weird progressive audio experiments of the post-black metal scene, but I also love that Darkthrone is a torch bearer of that original sound.
I love Fenriz. Such a character, incredibly knowledgable, incredibly funny.
1:01 he sounds so genuinely surprised and relieved
"drums sound best in the 70s" wise words Fenriz!
I don't know if you've checked out 66Samus, but he's an amazing drummer. The only thing that ruins his style is the drum triggers.
It is undoubtedly true.
Can't beat John Bonham's iconic sound
That reminds me, Bill Ward’s drum sound is fucking amazing!
👏
Fenriz has a Hirax patch, that is so badass
why is it badass
Katon W de Peña is God.
lol hirax is poser metal trash.
Garret Nelson THATS THE FIRST THING I NOTICED ✊🏽
@@yeomane no way, not a big fan of their music, but katon is probably one of the coolest dude's you can meet, knows his shit.
Fenriz's joy in music makes me so happy
btw, I really want to see you guys interview Neil Young and start off with, "so we were talking to Fenriz about how much compression sucks....."
I love Fenriz I could listen to him talk for hours
I recently watched a 2019 interview with him and I swear to the gods he doesn’t Fucking age. Neither does Nocturno. Total babes at almost 50 🤣
"I love D-Beat" on his battle vest... he knows what is good!
Fenriz is a down to earth kind of guy, knows what he's talking about.
compression is a really interesting topic, and one that most metal heads don't understand. notice how every cd since 1995 seems louder? when they remaster a classic from the 80's or early 90's.... all they do is compress the fuck out of it and make it louder. they KILL the dynamics!!! there are no quiet parts... just loud loud loud... a brick wall of sound. that's fine if you want to mix it that way (e.g. Transylvanian Hunger) but mastering shouldn't squash the shit out of the recording. nice to hear that Fenriz is across it.
compression only affects the tracks that the compression is being applied to. Being that I'm an audio engineer I can tell you that you don't fully grasp how compression works. compression is very important in recording music, especially metal.
I found this funny since all the newest Darkthrone albums are squashed to death with compressors and limiters.
Isaac Barton true but you don't have to have it. an it can mess the sound up if you don't know what you are doing. sometimes the raw sound is better.
@ Schutzstaffel - I'm referring to compression and limiting during the mastering process; not the recording / mixing stage prior to that. being a musician, I can see you don't fully grasp the difference between engineering and mastering ;)
Coldacre; First of all, in the mastering process, It's very common for mastering engineers to use multiband compression. It doesnt CHANGE the level of your song, thats what LIMITING AND NORMALIZING does, which is apart of the mastering process. You also have to understand that the reason shit has gotten louder over the years is due to demand at radio stations. once you give the radio station the final version of the song, they are going alter the wave forms, etc in order for the level to be correct for it to be broadcasted. Thats completely out of the hands of mixing and mastering engineers. Again, compression is extremely important woth recording, mixing, and mastering. The fact that you are confused about compression and limiting on tje mastering process tells me you know nothing about compression. Compression doesnt make shit louder. When you properly compress something, you attenuate the peaks of what youre compressing whilst bringing up the softer parts. It's all about dynamic control, not level adjustment. compression doesnt make shit louder, lol.
Nodody:
Fenriz when asked to talk about music: 👐🙌👉☝️💪✋👌👊
Gotta love this man.
I need a video with this man and Abbath in the same room.
Abbath is poser! MTV rock star, and nothing in common with black metal!
Radiooooooooo Fenriiiz!!!
I couldn't listen to Darkthrone for the life of me, but Fenriz just stands out, he doesn't need a band to be a fucking legend as far as I'm concerned
Darkthrone are the most enjoyable/easy to listen to Norwegian black metal. Love them :)
Wat? they are among the harsher of the bunch. Bands like Burzum and Ulver have atmospheric / ambient parts, whereas Darkthrone and Mayhem are straight to the point BM with little to no variation.
I think "easy to listen to" is due to the more groove-centric nature of Darkthrone. It's lineage is very Celtic Frost-y, the atmospheric stuff from Burzum for example can put people off I think.
reb1138 Mayhem and Darkthrone are very different
Let's agree to disagree, the music itself is indeed staright to the point and cool to listen! But the rocordings, jesus, there are intricacies on "A Blaze In the Northern Sky" and "Transylvanian Hunger" that you literally take over 20 listens of the songs to catch ONLY because the recordings are really fucking rough, that part aint easy to listen but sure grows on you!
If you want harsh stuff try Ildjarn.
Interesting that Fenriz mentioned both Jimi Hendrix & Neil Young in this interview. Because to me those two, plus Darkthrone, Bob Marley & Black Sabbath will forever reign in my musical universe.
Tee Dee Abbath frequently mentioned Kiss and Elvis Presley
@@nellsonstout7001 immortal kinda took the look from kiss so I can see abbath mentioning or maybe being a fan of them. From a aesthetic/visual standpoint immortal/abbath is clearly influenced by kiss not so much musically but yeah of all black metal bands their look is the closest to kiss.
This is what I call diverse
@@shanemickeydeez5155 I mean this with the most sincerity; I call it a Tuesday afternoon. \m/
Fenriz looks like a Black Metal version of Kid Rock.
Chrisdougable STOPP😂
Reptile - exactly, can’t trust a dude with that bad of an identity crisis.
Who is this Child Rocker youre referencing?
@Steven he's himself. Throwing out the other stuff you like to appease one sub-cultural identity is such a poser thing to do. "I can't like rap anymore because rock guys aren't allowed to". Stfu poser!
Look up the pictures of him from when he was really young.
Show No Mercy is an awesome album
There best album.
Yup, and Fenriz agrees as well. Just in case some people are confused by his language, sounding "primitive" is a positive quality to Fenriz.
It is my favorite Slayer album
It is Not a Black Metal version of Iron Maiden though. Much more Judas Priest influences really.
@@enterbalak *their
I like this guy. It's all about the music instead of the stupid black metal politics and nationalistic ideology.
Well, BM's very nationalistic. Defending their ancient pagan culture from the evil christians who cane to the north and burned the pagan monisteries and killed those who didnt obey the christianity.
+Venator stop digging up ancient bullshit, will you? Thanks.
The whole "nordic aryan black metal" thing was only ONE sentence in the lay-in of one of their albums and the band has said millions of times that they just did it for the sake of controversy and nothing else.
Fenriz has a Hirax patch on his shoulder. You really think he's a fucking racist? If you've seen videos of him, you'd know that he is even more into punk rock than he's into metal and that alone speaks volumes about his opinions on racism and ns bullshit.
yeah, when they were stupid teenagers. Smart people grow out of it
You don't have to be racist to be nationalist.
+Venator Blame Varg for that
I only clicked on this because of Fenriz.
This is why Fenriz and Darkthrone has always been my favorite. It’s honest!!! He just loves the music!!! He loves playing the music!!! None of this bullshit satanic image that scares the kids and pushing backlog sales (see: Ghaal). He lives.... for the music. End of story.
Scares the kids? Isn't that the fucking point?
lol you like metalcore, nerd
Wow... I could listen to this guy for hours. I can even imagine him doing some lecture series (seriously!).
Something like that actually exists here on TH-cam. Search for "Fenriz black metal university" ;) Not a series, but a lecture anyway.
Thats an awesome interview.... very passionate and to the point!
"The cool dude at the bar that knows everyone" of metal. Love his thoughts on drum sounds and production. Early Black Sabbath had the perfect production, heavy and sinister with a great dynamic range, lot of breathing room. A lot of drum sounds in metal today don't even sound like drums, kinda takes some of the energy out of it for me.
I love raw black metal and hearing unprocessed and unmastered demos, but I also love bands with a loud and polished production. It all depends on what style of music you are playing - there is, and should never be any rules to music. That's what makes it great.
I like BM. I wouldn't say I am a huge fan of it but I love Fenriz. What he says at the end about primitivism and compression is dead on right! Not just about BM, or metal or even just music. About modern life itself! As a metaphor. Modern needs chopping off the highs and lows and making everything mid just to satisfy the needs of modern formats. Fuck that. That is why things like primitive art is more important now than it ever has been. We are human with natural highs and lows and don't forget that!
I'm glad he said what he did about compression and using the drums as the best example to make his point was spot-on.
Man he's so expressive
So glad Fenriz singles out Crionics off Slayer’s Show No Mercy. The riffs and vocals on that track are killer.
Sips wine: "Satan"
SIPS WINE ONCE MORE... "FREEDOM"...
@@cainianlegion1630 sips the whole bottle : I support ... burning satans and freedom churches ...
*2 min death stare*
I’m not too much of a black metal fan but I do love it’s sense of atmosphere, I think a lot of metal bands are missing that.
0:45 Celtic Frost reference \m/
He's a really cool dude!
rockomundo he's like me only cooler
rockomundo how do you know? Do you know him him? Exactly stfu
@@davidblair3845 I suppose you see yourself in him.
Thank-you, this is great to listen to, to be reminded of greatness.
Fenriz mentions Neil Young - love it!
“Typewriter drums! Get it on, man!”
was that a Celtic Frost reference at 0:45? awesome interview, thanks for this!
Finally, a longer version of the interview! Hails Fenriz!
blaze is one of my fav black metal albums....it is as vamperic as it gets.
True
That body size reflector does absolutely nothing to lighten up Fenriz right side.
kalidesu litterally it's daenerys there
He gesticulates like us, Italians! È adorabile Fenriz!
"A continuation of the shittiness"… lol.
Love this guy. The knowledge is brilliant
There's only one guy i would love to have a beer and chat about this and that, and of course is Fenriz.
Who cares who would Mrs.XYZ want to meet and have a beer with. Waste of time.
I would too.
Only one guy? Really?
Not me? :(
@@nr655321 shut up
"Mesmerized....!"
AHAHAHHAHAHAA Fenriz is awesome
He only said that so as not be straight up. He really likes being indirect as possible.
Proud to say I’ve seen Fenriz dj’ing at Bunkerfest 2013 afterparty in Oslo!
Awesome. Thank you, Sam. Hail Bangers TV.
keep them coming
i had high hopes for this interview. oh well
williamgatesenson Me too damn it went fast!
this is awesome man
thank you Sam
Awesome interview!
Fenriz and quorthon are defintley 2 people who really influenced the black/death metal history and 2 amazing people Rip quorthon!
0:53 fenriz: ah shi here we go again.... oh!! nevermind
Great interview. Darkthrone is an awesome band in my opinion.
Crionics is probably my favorite song from show no mercy.
Yeah its great and Metalstorm/Face The Slayer. Well, the whole album is the best they ever did. Of course the EP's, Hell Awaits are good too.
Love this dude. Very genuine ❤
"Show No Mercy" has always had a combination of atmosphere and melody that is unlike anything I've heard in thrash metal. Spiritually it's more akin to Iron Maiden trippin' on demon possessed mushrooms than it is to "Kill Em' All" or any other thrash metal records of that time. Reign In Blood kicks ass for what it is, but it's not NEARLY as dark or atmospheric as either Show No Mercy or Hell Awaits.
Sir this is a wendy's
@@lmao7439 lmao
I would say hell awaits has the darkest atmosphere of all slayer albums.
This man is so chill
Ivw been waiting for this!!! Yay!
Only Fenriz can make the words "building blocks" sound epic. 🤣🤣
Between Fenriz, Frost and Hellhammer those guys are the foundation of Black Metal of the late 80's and through out the 90's
+Toten Kommando tell us
+Toten Kommando even though Varg wrote on Transylvania and Panzer. In the movie Till The Light Takes Us. They walked into Euro shop and everyone was in "ahh". They were metal
+E Jöhnsön Celtic Frost and Hellhammer were early 80's. Unless you mean the drummers Frost and Hellhammer, in which case the answer is a simple "no". Hellhammer's style is very death metal and Satyricon were followers, not initiators.
That was the reason Hellhammer was brought into Mayhem because he could play blast beats. Frost was also with 1349 which also is part of the make up of the Norwegian Black Metal scene. I also for Faust even though we got to hear his drumming for one album
Fenriz is cool as hell. Now I have to check out Darkthrone's music. Awesome. These episodes are mad educational.🤘
Yes, Joshua, I watched the whole video.
Dammit man, this was WAY too short. I want to know more about his ideas of what metal should be, the production and so on.
Varg: “He was always drunk”.
Spaghetti Horror - Varg is outdoor survivalist agrarian poser. He pretends his life style reflects that while he gets obese and lives off his royalties .
Fenriz: "Varg will always be a great guy." (from _Until the Light Takes Us_ )
S K Fenriz was everyone’s friend.
@@golz9785 Boohhoo😭😢😭😢
Awesome dude!!!!
Cool interview!
I agree with his philosophy on drum sound 100%
Boo samples
Yay real drums.
it's hard for us in crowded apartments to get drums tho
@@Koraxus Dont live in apts. Rent a house with other musicians or build credit and buy u a house w a partner or musician bandmate friend whatever
@@Xbuster6 just be rich right?
@@Koraxus Well, not exactly. I get yer point tho. I own a house but I had to spend about... hmm... 5-6-7 years or so saving up like 5-7k and then dump it all and now I'm broke again but making things work. I bought it with a family member so it's easier because we split it and have roommates. But yeah, musicians living in apartments... Ya do what ya got to do... But come on, that shouldn't be the 'goal'. Set goals and try yer best to achieve them, like getting out of living in apts. Musicians will be heavily stunted by those living conditions, unless they have another musician's house to go jam/record/write at or whatever.
At the same time, I get it, money aint easy in this messed up world. Know that all too well. If we only make like 800-1200$ paychecks, well, we should be able to afford to live in an actual house, not apartments, off of that. Apartments really should be priced no more than like 300-400$ monthly given what you actually have to live in in that close proximity to other people. But this is a messed up world. I get that money is not easy, but that honestly isn't my fault. I'd recommend complaining to your/our terrible government that makes us so impoverished, but tbh they're not gonna care if you complain to them. Keeping us impoverished and poor is likely the goal, for the most part/the vast majority of us. We shouldn't even need credit or loans (borrowing money we dont own ourselves) to afford to buy a house and our own property. Imho, if u work a job and hold it down for 5-10 years, you should be able to afford a house of your own/property, no ifs ands or buts. And the fact that isn't the case, in modern day, says there's something really wrong with the governing system in place which controls all of this stuff, not you and me who controls it, we just suffer through "the fun" of it lmao
Crionics is the greatest Slayer song.
Wolfgang Von Poserkila I think The Final Command takes that cake
Final Command is up there with the best for sure
We have a true metal fan lmfao
My favorite on Show No mercy. The riffs on that track could be interchangeable with early Metallica.
HELL YES. YOU sir are the first person I've found thinking so. Crionics is THE Slayer song and you will marry me. Hell I listen to it every fucking day.
This guy is so likeable. I can listen to him all day.
once again, best drumming!!!