Tying a Metal Thimble into a Rope Using a Simple Knot (Magnet Fishing) How to Tie
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How to Tie - Tying a Metal Thimble into a Rope Using a Simple Knot (Magnet Fishing) Non Splicing Method.
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A short while ago I was contacted by a viewer who wanted to know how to tie a rope to his Fishing Magnet, so that it was secure and would not fray. The simplest solution was to tie a Poachers Noose or Scaffold knot around a metal thimble. The beauty of the Poachers Noose is that it will secure itself snugly to the metal thimble. The thimble used in the video is quality stainless steel and does not attract a magnet. I cheaper option may be a nylon thimble.
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Johnny Debt
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I've actually used this knot to secure my anchor. saw it on another video and tried it. 2 years later and it's still perfect. I actually used a pear shaped eye. I do like the idea of the seizing on the tail.
@@daveumpref It is always good to hear about knots being used in action!! Yep, should work extremely well for an anchor.
Very useful video. Thanks for making TH-cam a worthwhile place.
Glad you think so! Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
Gidday from New Zealand. Thanks this was exactly what I was looking for. Very well explained.
Hello NZ!! Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
Love watching your channel John,
Learning alot. Thank you 😊
Are you a magnet fisher, if you are looking at this knot?
I Love these knots...Jonny Debt is doing a lovely job and im addicted to the Art of Knotting...good job...like to see more of these knots 👍🏻
Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated. Are you more of a practical or decorative knotter?
Hi Johnny, I'm an Angler, I use a lot of Fishing Knots, been fishing for past 15 yrs, and I have keen interest in other type of knots....
I have as yet to do fishing knots, the trouble is the small line. I do however plan to see if I can do some of the knots in a larger line. I have seen some videos on fishing knots and they are rather difficult to see. I am sure that as a fisherman you have some good knot knowledge. I often sit watching TV with a piece of rope and practice my knots, do you do that when fishing?
Thanks for sharing. Nice application of the nooses you named to go into your termination hitch. I've used those on rings or carabiners or non-critical weights that did not need to be untied.
Thanks for taking the time to share this information, I always love to hear about knots being used! Are you more of a practical or decorative knotter?
Perfect! Just what I was after for my son's Christmas magnet fishing present. Cheers!
Bloody good present, outdoor life is the best!!! Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
Thank you so much for your help!! Very useful example!!
Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated. Are you more of a practical or decorative knotter?
I'm building a kayak hoisting rig and this is EXACTLY what I was looking for. Thank you!
Yes, I think it would work exceptionally well for such a task. Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
Outstanding very easy and simple to remember.
Do you go magnet fishing? Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
Oh! My God!!! This is exactly what Iwas looking for to install my hammock. Thanks.
and there you go, another use for this wonderful knot! Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
super efective , i use termoretlactil tube to finish and its very very strong knot
Clear and concise, thanks, Johnny
I am the best, please tell me I am the best??? Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated. Feeling needy today ;-)
I love your name. Its funny and clever and very unique. Well done and thanks for the great vids!!
Not the best name for a knotting channel, but it worked out in the end. Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
Useful knot this. I call it a halyard hitch, ideal for attaching a halyard to the mainsail head.
Brilliant
Thanks Johnny. Clear and easy to follow
Will you be using this for magnet fishing?
@@KnottingKnots no... for thimbles on sea kayak rudder system
@@michaelsmyth8808 I had to read that twice, yep, should work well for that too.
Шо там пиздоболит ни чего не понятно , но по видео картинке все понял , спасибо.
Thanks for the lesson :)
Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
I’m always learning something from you. I use this a lot but never knew it had a name. I just think of it as a slipped blood knot or a triple slipped blood knot or any other random name that might come to mind. It is a beautiful knot in all its variations. Thanks John. 👌
Btw. What is a fishing magnet?
@@plemas A fishing magnet is for fishing for steel etc in rivers. In the UK there are a lot of canals, and over the years stuff was dumped in them. So there is now a "sport" of magnet fishing for treasure. The best fishing spots are near bridges, as lots of stuff was thrown from them. You can find stuff from and old shopping trolley to guns and knives etc. There are a number of YT channels on the subject and some of the finds are interesting.
Thank you, outstanding, so easy.
Thanks Gary. Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
Love this concept CHEERS
I swear google is listening to everything lol. I recently picked up a cheap £20 fishing Magnet from eBay and wasn't happy with the rope being attached to a D-Ring and that connects to the magnet hoop. So I was doing a search for "how to tie a 6mm rope to a magnet hoop" didn't really get anything but open up TH-cam today and yours was the first suggest video to watch lol.
Im a complete beginner, so have no idea what to expect, other than others comments that the magnet came off first throw in the water. Hence why I was looking for a stronger or better way to tie the rope to the hoop. Thank you for a clear and precise video.
Glad that you came here Aaron. You can also use this knot without using a thimble, or there are also nylon versions of the thimble. Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
I needed to make up a lead sounding line using braided poly and didn’t have time to learn how to braid this particular brand/style of line. So, I used this knot and followed up by seizing the working end to the standing part of the line. Thanks.
Bet is looks smart with a bit of seizing? Thanks for taking the time to share this information, I always love to hear about knots and cordage being used!
Excelent, Thank you!!!
Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
Thank you Sir I did learn some very good thing from you You are very very nice and kind person with the best explaination…
So nice of you. Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
Love it!! Thank you!!
Me, the channel or the knot? 😉 😉 😉 Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
@@KnottingKnots I love the knot and the humor!! My pleasure.
Nice tutorial!
Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
Awesome 👍
Yep, I use this one a lot!! Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
Great information! Thank you! Would this be a good setup for hanging a swing?
I like it!!!!!!!! And I will use it
I do love to hear that people will be using certain knots in action!! 😉 😉 😉
This is cool
Not as cool as your Zippo ;-)
Johnny Debt well thx u lol i will make the new vid in a min and hopefully this time its all there
Thank you
Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated. Do you fish with a magnet?
Yes. It IS a thimble, but I was always taught with Steel Wire Rope to "Pin the Eye' with a shackle i.e. put the pin of the shackle through the eye :D
I can talk a lot, and I like to think that I know a little about this subject. However, when there is a camera, microphone and I have to concentrate on keeping the work in shot, I loose the ability to remember things.
Would you recommend this knot for anchoring chain on a 17’ bayliner boat?
This particular knot has never let me down, as weight makes the knot bind even tighter. However, one issue that I do see is that you end up with a fairly bulky knot. I have heard it said that back splicing a rope onto a chain is preferred. You may also want to view the anchor bend: th-cam.com/video/G_BK3OFKGL0/w-d-xo.html
Thimble!!! Goodness!
Any idea how much you lose from the safe working load limit of the rope when you do this?
There is a very rough guide here on the reduction of SWL on certain knots: igkt-solent.co.uk/strength-knot-chart/ Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated. Are you more of a practical or decorative knotter?
Thank you, but I use two loops through my anchor chain and this knot for my kayak when I go fishing.
we all have our own styles, thanks for taking the time to leave a comment.
Could this possibly be used with a shackle for securing an anchor?? I'm concerned the know will slip and I'd like the thimble to protect the line from chafing. The thimble rather than just using a halyard knot with the shackle.. Thoughts???
I do not see why not. I think the main concern would be to ensure that the thimble is nicely rounded off where it meets the rope, so that it does not cut into it as it tightens. Obviously splicing would be even more secure, as a splice is stronger. There is a strength of knot chart here: igkt-solent.co.uk/strength-knot-chart/
Thanks, I'm going to give it a look when i splash my boat. The knot strength is less a problem in fresh water where I am.
Do they make non-ferrous thimbles? It seems that a thimble being attracted to the magnet would be a source for lots of minor frustrations.
Marine grade 316 stainless steel thimbles would do.
If this is of concern, you can also get nylon thimbles: amzn.to/2GQfKiQ
Absolutely, they make them in Nylon. it's closed on the bottom end so chafing isn't an issue. Very common in any marine supply joint.
Well done clip! Would this knot also weaken the rope used???
Yes, all knots do reduce the strength of a line, this knot retains about 65% of its strength. Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
Шо там пиздоболит ни чего не понятно , но по видео картинке все понял , спасибо.
thanks i will use this for mi sled dog rig
Glad to have helped, how many sled dogs do you have?
This type of night can you be use for a climbing rope
I would suggest that you refer to sites dedicated to climbing to see what they consider good and bad knots. Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
That looks like a noose.. wah wah wah. I'm telling.
Does this set up work for a tender towing bridle?
What weight do you think you would be pulling? The advantage of this knot is, the greater the pull the tighter the knot gets. However, I guess there must be a limit??
Good knot, not an activity I would have thought to apply it against.
I think this is such a lovely combination, it could be used in many a scenario where rope fraying is a problem. I really love this knot, as the tighter you pull the more it bights onto the object.
STU HERE THANKS ALWAYS WANTED TO KNO HOW TO TIE THE ANGLERS KNOT. OH AND YOOU BRITISH ACSENT IS SPOT ON. I LIVED AT THE BEACH FOR 20 YEARS NVERE HAD THE NEET FOR THAT KNOT. CIAO.
Thanks Stu for taking the time to leave a comment. You will find the Poachers Noose or Scaffold knot a very useful knot to know. It forms a lovely secure slip knot, that can be used in many applications.
Шо там пиздоболит ни чего не понятно , но по видео картинке все понял , спасибо.
Works the same on a Nylon/Plastic thimble then?
Yes, some people are concerned that some metal thimbles will be magnetic. Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
Is this knot safe enough and strong enough to use for a long tree swing for my kids? 25 ft high.
I think the issue with this knot would be, that it tightens around the object with a vice like grip! This would mean that the tree could not expand and grow properly in that area. As for the strength of a knot, you may be interested in this post: igkt-solent.co.uk/knot-strength-chart/
Johnny Debt thanks for the response. But I’ll be using an eyebolt through the limb connecting the rope with a eye > thimble. So, I’m curious is this a good knot to use for that setup?
@@Joe_Cannon are you wanting a loop or slip knot and should it be quick release?
Johnny Debt I’m not sure here. Maybe a non slip loop knot. Hopefully something that won’t undo itself as it’ll be very high up in the tree. I really wanted an eye + spliced end originally seen on the tree swing video tutorial but can’t do it myself. Will this hold well and not become undone for the swing? Or should I look into something else? I surely don’t know my knots.
@@Joe_Cannon If you have a three strand rope, then splicing an eye is not too difficult. Take a look at this video: th-cam.com/video/9Ceg1-KAPpo/w-d-xo.html Or you could tie a Bowline or the more secure Water Bowling: th-cam.com/video/ji2NbzC7kYA/w-d-xo.html
Did you recommend a plastic or non-ferrous thimble because I can see a minor problem otherwise.
Ah yes, the actual thimble used was marine grade stainless, but on the website I did also recommend using nylon thimbles: igkt-solent.co.uk/tying-metal-thimble-rope-fishing-magnet/ Are you by any chance a magnet fisher?
I have tried it a little but you need 100+ kg magnets and waterways that have a bit of history. Most Australian rivers are just dumping grounds, not sights of historic conflict. The knot however is a favourite amongst tree climbers as a terminal knot for fastening to their climbing rope. I still climb occasionally as I approach 60.
I find it slightly odd that the house I live in was built 35 years before Cookie Boy even discovered Australia. I wonder if the history books even teach that now? I lived in Penrith in the early seventies, and I think the oldest piece of history was good old Ned Kelly's armour. Yep, I too am approaching 60, my days of leaping around like a young Gazelle are now past me.
Thats a sexy knot
Will this work for a boat anchor line?
I always say, "you are the master of your own knots", if you like it and it works...............
@@KnottingKnots this knot worked perfectly for my purpose, thanks for posting it!
@@Deribinkle This is one of my favourite noose knots!!
Шо там пиздоболит ни чего не понятно , но по видео картинке все понял , спасибо.
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Would seizing on its own be stronger than the knot?
Seizing, when done correctly, is very strong. I would say that this knot is stronger and also gives you the ability to undo and redo as required.
@@KnottingKnots thanks a million. Having it permanently fixed suits probably better in this instance.
@@SuperScubaTim If seizing, consider using two colours, be proud and make it yours!!! Could look similar to these: igkt-solent.co.uk/whipping-rope/
@@KnottingKnots Won’t be anything fancy like that - more like two runs over each other and glue them.
@@SuperScubaTim ............. and why not. I always say, you are the master of your own knots. Thanks for letting me know.
Isn't a splice stronger?
Yes, but sometimes your don't want a knot to be permanent, or splining braided rope can also be a real pain for some. Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
LOL -- no abuse...I call it an eye too. =)
We all get lots of things wrong in life, but to some people it really seems to matter. Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
Can I have details of your pocket knife please?
Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated. The knife is a Myerchin and there is more information on my blog here: igkt-solent.co.uk/supplies/
@@KnottingKnots Thank you!
i think ill try this on my halyard
As I always say, you are the master of your own knots. Please let me know how you get on with it?
Thimble
I'll try this with some 3.5mm Mastrant instead of using hardware. 👍
It should work perfectly well without hardware, but could chaffing be an issue?
@@KnottingKnots I'm using the thimbles to alleviate that issue
Спасибо и большой привет из России!!!
Спасибо, что нашли время, чтобы посмотреть, а также сделать комментарий, очень ценится. Вы больше практический или декоративный узловязатель?
Я искал видео, как сделать буксирный трос для легкового авто самостоятельно!
Maybe something similar to this? th-cam.com/video/uGChmSC5oL0/w-d-xo.html
How do you spell caradena?
Carabiner
Similar in tying to a double fisherman's knot.
Yep, there is a very close similarity. Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
Cool knots though..just trying to make ur vids more appealing..
It is always good to get comments, as I do listen and try to make little changes here and there. When I look at my really early stuff, even that makes me cringe. Do you use knots a lot?
Actual knot tying 2:50 into the video
What, and miss out on all my ramblings??
I had to give up magnet fishing, I couldn't find any magnetic fish.
Ever tried fishing for electric eels, that can be rather exciting?
I'm always in stealth mode...
Just out of curiosity, what country are you in? Just wondering if there are any laws/restrictions where you are?
Abuse abuse abuse, thimble, chuckle
Oi, stop ;-)
They used this kind in wild west by hanging? Or not?
The hangman's noose is considered to be used for hanging. However, as not all hangings were official, I am sure that other knots were used instead. Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated. Are you more of a practical or decorative knotter?
Очень понравилось коуш встал как влитой.
Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
There are plastic thimbles, obviously not magnetic. Additionally, a plastic thimble won't cut the loops as will a metal thimble.
There sure are. Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
Чувак! Это узел, не квантовый компьютер. Сдерживай себя.
Why on earth would I want to restrain myself? Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
No need for the shackle. Just spread the thimble out, hang the magnet and bend back close, then tie your knot.
Bloody good idea SV. Thanks for taking the time to share this information, I always love to hear about knots being used!
nice but could have been 1:23 long
You are the master of your own keyboard, you can mute or play at 2x speed to ease your pain 😉 😉 😉
Шо там пиздоболит ни чего не понятно , но по видео картинке все понял , спасибо.
You sound an awful lot like the Simply SCUBA guy...?
You will never catch me under water, as you can not hear them creeping up on you!! ;-)
This is probably acceptable for light to medium loads, but if you put something heavy onto this for a long time (e.g. mooring), the tightening nature of the noose will pull the edges of the thimble against the wraps of the noose, chafing and eventually cutting it. For more heavy-duty applications, you're better off with an eye-splice around the thimble (which obviously takes a lot longer and requires either a 3-strand or hollow core rope).
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I can not disagree with you there, but this project was just for a fishing magnet. Thanks for taking the time to share this information, I always love to hear about knots being used!
Just so you know, it’s a thimble, not an “eye”
Don't worry, I did make a Cat of Nine Tails and punished myself for this schoolboy error ;-)
Try to be more concise...less repetitive...get it done...less irrelevant comments
Martin, I am still learning the art of filming, one day you will be able to say. "I knew him when he was a total buffoon!" Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated. Are you more of a practical or decorative knotter?
@@KnottingKnots I think you do a perfect job. Love watching your very useful videos.
A lot of chatter
I started a long time ago to "over explain" as I have one subscriber who is blind. He and his granddaughter follow the videos, he listens and she watches. He ties the knot and if he goes wrong his granddaughter corrects him. A lovely little bond must be growing between them? Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
@@KnottingKnots sorry, looked the first time. Good luck)))
Шо там пиздоболит ни чего не понятно , но по видео картинке все понял , спасибо.
Just get on with it and less jabbering.