Grandmaster Naroditsky | Chess Speedrun | 2070 Cheater!

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  • @jordanlimantara1814
    @jordanlimantara1814 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1097

    Gms being surprised at engine moves is exactly me when I see the ideas of a gms moves.

    • @benjaminaschlimanjr4939
      @benjaminaschlimanjr4939 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      That's me when I accidentally hang half my pieces on an off day

    • @jordanlimantara1814
      @jordanlimantara1814 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@benjaminaschlimanjr4939 ah yes, the many faces of a chess player

    • @Itsmohitsinghh
      @Itsmohitsinghh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same 🤣🤣🤣🤣
      Lmao

    • @halffolk21
      @halffolk21 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Daniel: "Relax guys". Whilst he shakes, clattering his ☕

    • @swayzocrazo4398
      @swayzocrazo4398 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha

  • @RG001100
    @RG001100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +808

    "What he doesn't realise is he's playing me"
    bad. ass.

    • @fujiapple9675
      @fujiapple9675 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      That line by Danya was amazing! Someone should make a movie out of it. Call it: "The Prophet."

    • @fujiapple9675
      @fujiapple9675 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      12:05

    • @HALOKIRBY1
      @HALOKIRBY1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I heard boss music start after he said that hahaha

    • @fujiapple9675
      @fujiapple9675 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      RIP the account 💀 24:38 ☠️

  • @tonyharrington100
    @tonyharrington100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1005

    This cheating is almost as obvious as when my 950 rated opponents manage to beat my 21% accuracy with a nearly flawless 45%

    • @ryanmcwade3371
      @ryanmcwade3371 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      😂😂

    • @RandyLeftHandy
      @RandyLeftHandy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      I've only had one cheater so far. His best accuracy before this game was 16 percent. He did this bizarre opening really quickly and then played on an even interval. Once he had promoted two queens he resigned. It was weird, but I guess he didn't want to be caught. He may have even seen it as practice of sorts.

    • @smolboye1878
      @smolboye1878 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Darwin Neil WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I FUCKING LOVE BOTS

    • @jasoncostan1632
      @jasoncostan1632 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@RandyLeftHandy his account was prob blocked as you were playing lmao

    • @RandyLeftHandy
      @RandyLeftHandy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jasoncostan1632 At far as I can tell it's still active. I legit think that he was using an engine as a way to "learn" how to play better.

  • @stefanramdhan4757
    @stefanramdhan4757 3 ปีที่แล้ว +483

    I’m gonna cry when this series ends

    • @Mx6D
      @Mx6D 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      hopefully he will start another one. I legit gained 500 points of this series

    • @coffeedude
      @coffeedude 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      He needs to beat his speedrun time!

    • @theogrundy7445
      @theogrundy7445 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Mx6D woah that’s so good!

    • @Loyis
      @Loyis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      4000 elo speedrun next

    • @bestiazyt
      @bestiazyt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      just rewatch

  • @ryankurz
    @ryankurz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +138

    I am addicted to this series. I regularly check throughout the day to see if you’ve uploaded.

  • @jonathanamwoza4336
    @jonathanamwoza4336 3 ปีที่แล้ว +541

    I appreciate Daniel's professionalism when discussing and encountering cheating.

    • @jxnuary81
      @jxnuary81 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Thought u said encouraging at first 😅

    • @trequor
      @trequor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      definitely read that as encouraging

  • @tomaszzima3622
    @tomaszzima3622 3 ปีที่แล้ว +159

    The principle of finding and recognizing weak squares and weak pawns is huge. It applied when GM Naroditsky played 1300s and it applies when he plays 2000s. Love this series!

    • @iamtheteapot7405
      @iamtheteapot7405 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's something I never even think about while playing, you're right though.

  • @MidnightBloomDev
    @MidnightBloomDev 3 ปีที่แล้ว +367

    Shouldn't watch this because I have to study
    Danya: What if you do it anyway?

  • @computerflight2145
    @computerflight2145 3 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    opening theory has been revolutionized by the modern need to avoid automated cheat detection.

    • @trequor
      @trequor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      underrated comment lol

  • @polgabaldon
    @polgabaldon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +314

    It appears that Danya is also a typing GM.

    • @iamdogger5871
      @iamdogger5871 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Holy shit ikr that was so fast

    • @wilio9098
      @wilio9098 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Yeah he has something like 190 wpm on typeracer

    • @iamdogger5871
      @iamdogger5871 3 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      @@wilio9098 that's nuts. Balls, even. Testicles, if you will.

    • @letsprogress4124
      @letsprogress4124 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@iamdogger5871 lol

    • @fl4shbangz
      @fl4shbangz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@wilio9098 Jesus I thought I was fast and he beats me by 70wpm

  • @chilliram
    @chilliram 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    This video was instructive in that a computer can actually waste 10 moves in the opening, let the GM opponent fully develop and yet beat him eventually. That's just madness for a 1400 player to comprehend.

  • @Qwazim0d00
    @Qwazim0d00 3 ปีที่แล้ว +191

    Dude won this game then resigned his next game in 16 moves after hanging his knight. Then he closed his account.

    • @callmeqt1269
      @callmeqt1269 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      I don’t think he closed his account, I think chess.com closed his account. That’s their form of banning.

    • @petergriffin8767
      @petergriffin8767 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@callmeqt1269 No. He closed his account. It says he did.

  • @jakedemedeiros9978
    @jakedemedeiros9978 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    The drama of that thumbnail is perfect haha, like “shattering the screen doesn’t feel like enough let’s add the grim reaper”

  • @themac3116
    @themac3116 3 ปีที่แล้ว +150

    Danya is so calm. Cheating like that is disgraceful.

    • @A_H_66
      @A_H_66 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      It's sad more than anything. It's like winning a running contest when you're riding a bicycle.

    • @iamtheteapot7405
      @iamtheteapot7405 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@A_H_66 Yeah I never understood the appeal.

    • @end.olives
      @end.olives 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      People do it because they are stupid and want to seem smarter

  • @fujiapple9675
    @fujiapple9675 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Daniel, thank you for your integrity and prudence, making this speedrun informative despite dishonesty by your opponent. Ironically, I suspect this speedrun segment will get a ton of views.

  • @animantus
    @animantus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +286

    Danya wins: Hurray, we won!
    Danya loses or draws: Hurray, that will make the speedrun longer!

    • @Plonom
      @Plonom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      He will get his rating back from the cheater tho

    • @animantus
      @animantus 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Plonom Yeah, I know ;)

    • @cationr
      @cationr ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Plonom this ain’t aged well..

    • @Ilportavoce
      @Ilportavoce ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@cationr why?

  • @omnaaggvin3747
    @omnaaggvin3747 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    the biggest thing for me is how he playes a rook sacrafice that you wouldnt play unless you already knew how to respond to every move and knew it was forced checkmate then he procedes to think about dayas move for 3 secounds like it suprised him

  • @toompie69
    @toompie69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    22:07 Chat suggesting engine lines LULW

    • @Wtahc
      @Wtahc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      there is literally no reason to believe that is an engine move

    • @wenomechainsanna
      @wenomechainsanna 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Wtahc huh? there are many reasons one of them is there a guessing minigame to get points in chess.com people use engines to get points in GM games

    • @Wtahc
      @Wtahc 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wenomechainsanna are u normal

  • @02_aldebaranrahmanadhitya95
    @02_aldebaranrahmanadhitya95 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Another video, another good day.

  • @humanrightsadvocate
    @humanrightsadvocate 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    For each and every one of us, a cheater is a source of frustration.
    For GM Daniel Naroditsky, a cheater is a source of quality content.

  • @speaker1449
    @speaker1449 3 ปีที่แล้ว +260

    Imagine cheating at chess lmao, like how boring must your life be

    • @brenxbux
      @brenxbux 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      yeah it was fun when i turned on all assists against the ai that kept beating me then i felt empty and stupid. Cant imagine doing it to a person.

    • @pokahman236
      @pokahman236 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You are saying this while watching somebody else play chess for 30 minutes. Must have a pretty exciting life, huh?

    • @speaker1449
      @speaker1449 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@pokahman236 ever heard of background noise?

    • @pokahman236
      @pokahman236 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@speaker1449 Ever heard of cheating at chess because it is fun? Not like your life is boring just because you cheated at an online game for a couple of hours.

    • @speaker1449
      @speaker1449 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      @@pokahman236 do you like cheat at chess on a daily basis? Why you getting so offensive over my oppinion?
      Hb this would you rather watch a player who has been playing for years and talking about how he learned why hes making the moves he is and his personal life or watch a robot play a board game for you?

  • @magnuswamble1140
    @magnuswamble1140 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Please dont stop making speedrun videos. I know you have done a million and it feels like work but I cant catch the streams and all of these are so educational and well done. Im a big fan! 😃

  • @Kindred1a1
    @Kindred1a1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    7:28 "Now lets get our rook to an open file"
    *open c-file*: Am I a joke to you

  • @martinsalehi964
    @martinsalehi964 3 ปีที่แล้ว +236

    The fact that Daniel almost beat STOCKFISH ITSELF just shows how much of a prophet he truly is 😂

    • @mcmudkipp
      @mcmudkipp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Funny clip but he was up -6 even according to stockfish lol

    • @MrSupernova111
      @MrSupernova111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      He was never close to beating this chump! Just because the engine says that he was up it doesn't mean anything if the player is blind to all the winning moves. hahaha

    • @kidisthing
      @kidisthing 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      No quite opposite of that...it shows that even if you make horrible blunder just to not catch from anti ban system of chess.com and engine is showing -6 advantage than still you will lose if engine itself will play the rest of the game so the engine is never in trouble

    • @Plonom
      @Plonom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@MrSupernova111 as far as I see that, Danja only missed one move what screwed him over. Which is insane.

    • @masanetthomas8586
      @masanetthomas8586 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ​@@kidisthing No, it doesn't show that. We are watching one example of a gm that is talking to a chat while calculating. First of all, this sample is far too small to conclude anything. Second of all, full force danya on his own would have won this, I have no doubt in my mind so would have any sufficiently good gm. But... but... in sacrificial positions, you have to play extremely accurately because every move matter (as dany says prepare slow, attack fast). If you are playing against a normal human, an innacuraccy might be ok because defending this is still very very complicated. But against an engine every move needs to be optimal. Daniel still blundered though.

  • @marejov83
    @marejov83 3 ปีที่แล้ว +149

    For the love of me. I have no idea why would someone cheat. That rating number is just a number if it doesn't represent your true skill. And if you cheat, you know that you are not 2400 ELO. So you are just lying to yourself. And that is just sad.

    • @gwynjudd
      @gwynjudd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      People that cheat like winning and don't like chess

    • @ryancrouch813
      @ryancrouch813 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      And also, you're just sitting there letting a computer play for you. Like tf?

    • @scheimong
      @scheimong 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Or to quote a certain famous fictional world champion, "pathetic"

    • @jannickackermans2449
      @jannickackermans2449 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      i don't think this person cheated beginning moves wherent computers favourite and he made some blunders that got him -6 that even against best engine daniel should win if he sees right ideas

    • @gwynjudd
      @gwynjudd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@jannickackermans2449 The beginning moves were made with the computer turned off. This seems to be what the cheaters do to try and avoid the automatic detection algorithms so it looks like your accuracy isn't too high.

  • @pinkunicornofdoom6154
    @pinkunicornofdoom6154 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    "It's actually not that easy to refute his moves, I know that sounds crazy" Classic Naroditsky Quote

    • @tolkienfan1972
      @tolkienfan1972 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Said from a winning position...

  • @Jemapelbulgarel
    @Jemapelbulgarel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The blatant cheating proof is at 22:18, when he plays the incredible f6 in exactly 5 seconds (black cannot take the pawn, because then there's a rook sacrifice into a mating attack which is far from obvious)

  • @shanele2309
    @shanele2309 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love how he explains what he does as he goes on...love that it’s very helpful

  • @essidus
    @essidus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +171

    I'm honestly surprised there's only been two cheaters so far across all of his speedrun games so far.

    • @Mati-zc2ym
      @Mati-zc2ym 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      if i met a SenseiDanya i would open stockfish first time in my life just to troll him

    • @peterdevlin3295
      @peterdevlin3295 3 ปีที่แล้ว +90

      @@Mati-zc2ym wow that would be so hilarious! So would watching your account get banned

    • @Mati-zc2ym
      @Mati-zc2ym 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@peterdevlin3295 i would not regret, i can create another one xD however i am going to play my moves fast somehow and not take 3 sec on engine move but some more than im gonna lose the game in time trouble playing like 2000 so he wont even report me :p

    • @Mati-zc2ym
      @Mati-zc2ym 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The purpose of cheating would just be to stand a chance... Man, he is kinda cheating aswell

    • @TheBramVermeulen
      @TheBramVermeulen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      @@Mati-zc2ym don't be that guy.

  • @rykehuss3435
    @rykehuss3435 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    3:37 not easy to refute his moves. Lol I love this kind of obvious hinting. High level Chess players are like poets when it comes to accusing someone of cheating without saying it out loud. Other classics are like "he is playing way above his rating" and "I cant believe he is X rated"

  • @griffinbur1118
    @griffinbur1118 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love it -- it seems like there has been a rapid shift in willingness to discuss this among streamers lately (I had long noticed a sort of reluctance to discuss it because Chess(.)com and Lichess very strongly discourage discussion of it). The sport is better in the long-run, even if the userbase of these sites is pruned.

    • @griffinbur1118
      @griffinbur1118 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Although it should be noted that the vast majority of engine-users are much subtler -- this is the only kind of cheater whom Lichess/Chess.com say exists.

    • @trequor
      @trequor 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@griffinbur1118 how could you know such a thing? Even just using the simple engine that comes pre-packaged with Windows you could beat most players without them even knowing that you were an engine.

  • @ShabazzTBL
    @ShabazzTBL 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Wait a minute. I’ve played people who start off playing horrible moves and I’m like “Man my position is just overwhelming better than theirs and they hung a piece. This is will be easy.” And I somehow end up not only losing but getting destroyed. I previously never suspected cheating because they played so poorly to start but when Danya said “I hate when they start like this because that usually means they’re going to suddenly play better.” I realized that that’s probably what was happening to me. I’ll never understand why people play just to cheat. What do they get out of it?

  • @swift8821
    @swift8821 3 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    Weird, his 1st opponent had under a 50% win ratio in bullet and he is rated under 1000. Weird he only played one more game after this and was banned.

    • @Gytax0
      @Gytax0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      he wasnt banned. he closed his account

    • @peterdevlin3295
      @peterdevlin3295 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      @@Gytax0 Yeah that's like saying Nixon resigned; it's obvious he's cutting his loses for being guilty

    • @darrenfleming7901
      @darrenfleming7901 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think Danya picks the opponents for this so the guy would have to have a legit account for Danya to accept to play him, so it was prolly the first time he used an engine on the account. its crazy the lengths people will go for 5 minutes of attention and then no one gives a fuck about them, idk if they think people will be impressed but it just seems like a waste of your time.

    • @kungmee5127
      @kungmee5127 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@darrenfleming7901 I'm pretty sure he doesn't pick his opponents. If he did, it wouldn't make sense to play a 2300 as a 2000.

    • @darrenfleming7901
      @darrenfleming7901 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kungmee5127 i think he checks their profile to make sure he wont get a cheater who ruins the video

  • @geol5448
    @geol5448 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You know you play against an engine when you make no bad moves but you find yourself in a position with not too many options and that is exactly what Daniel was having in that game which explains why for the first time you see him without a clear plan. It was educational though watching a GM against a bot .

  • @SDTCG
    @SDTCG 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This video makes me feel like I encountered a cheater the other day. I'm still a very new chess player, so I assumed my opponent was just toying with me in the beginning, then got serious and beat me, but it was suspiciously like Daniel's game. Either way it doesn't really matter to me much, but it is a bummer to encounter that type of thing.

    • @trequor
      @trequor 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      At very low ratings that kind of thing is super common. Lots of decent chess players make a new account and steamroll low rated players to get to their actual rating. New accounts are a great way to try out crazy openings without sacrificing your rating. Plus some people get off on the kind of flexing that comes from beating up kindergarteners (think Anakin Skywalker)

    • @SDTCG
      @SDTCG 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@trequor Yea, that's why I wasn't sure if it was a cheater or a good player. Either way it's kind of a dick move to do that to an amateur if you ask me.

  • @someoneelse293
    @someoneelse293 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    He's rated 681 in bullet

  • @realeques
    @realeques 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    especially with the recent boom in chess popularity i've seen a lot of chess related content but i gotta say for me personally this series is the most intriguing educational and fun to watch

  • @TropicalPianist
    @TropicalPianist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Using Daniel principles (play slow moves, develop your pieces, grab space on the flanks etc) I literally toyed around with a 2100 on lichess, (I wasn’t able to convert a the critical moment but that is still a feat !)

    • @AnandSivaram22
      @AnandSivaram22 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well done my man... Next time, convert it..

    • @TropicalPianist
      @TropicalPianist 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AnandSivaram22 of course:D

  • @MrRop-yp3wt
    @MrRop-yp3wt 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You know Danya feelings are hurt when he says “thats so funny guys “

  • @mohamedayadi1959
    @mohamedayadi1959 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just hit 1200 rating thanks for these videos i love your content danya sensei

  • @BM-hj6lq
    @BM-hj6lq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My day off morning with a Yorkshire cup of tea and watching this speed run is spoiled by the cheater accused.

  • @memotto123
    @memotto123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:02 Holy smokes

  • @soumyadeeproy127
    @soumyadeeproy127 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It's frankly quite amusing that after wasting the first 10 moves, computers can beat one of the brightest humans quite easily.

  • @francislefebvre9895
    @francislefebvre9895 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    SUPER GREAT sportsmanship. I love your attitude, props :)

  • @Nick2014B
    @Nick2014B 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It makes me sad seeing him lose to cheaters because he's so nice and tries not to be frustrated

  • @chrisdvine
    @chrisdvine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    5:01 he defends the knight! Cheater confirmed

  • @garyharrison4915
    @garyharrison4915 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    As soon as he opened like that with that rating it's a 100% cheating. Played like hes rated 300 then god.

    • @krabmane1304
      @krabmane1304 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If he opened like that, and continued to play badly, it wouldn't be cheating, then, would it? The opening alone isn't evidence of cheating, it's the fact he played 95% accuracy after the opening.

  • @christopher19894
    @christopher19894 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Levy Rozman doesn't know what innocent until proven guilty means. He calls nearly every random player who beats him a cheater, and then gets chess.com to ban them. The last time I saw him cry cheater on stream, he didn't even show the game analysis. I like the way Danya handles it.

    • @rykehuss3435
      @rykehuss3435 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Just shows a difference in ego. Hikaru is like that too, he has cried cheater many times on innocent players when he has lost. Including other GM's

    • @trequor
      @trequor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's such a rare virtue to have these days, but we need it more than ever. We should all follow his example when it comes to one's attitude towards a suspicious and accused person.

  • @pharmokan
    @pharmokan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Actually, I'm not even mad. That's amazing.

  • @Tyler-bp4md
    @Tyler-bp4md 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    23:05 good danya quote. writing this down

  • @juicyvortex7204
    @juicyvortex7204 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I find it funny how the only time Daniel loses is when he goes up against a cheater lmao

    • @Nnm26
      @Nnm26 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you're implying that some them are legit then you're delusional.

    • @juicyvortex7204
      @juicyvortex7204 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Nnm26 when did I ever say that?

    • @Nnm26
      @Nnm26 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@juicyvortex7204 I thought that you were implying it. Apologies if that isn't the case.

    • @silverpower6912
      @silverpower6912 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Didn’t he cheat at 22:06?

    • @juicyvortex7204
      @juicyvortex7204 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Nnm26 no worries

  • @biseln2002
    @biseln2002 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fun puzzle that Danya didn’t mention. At 27:00, what happens if white plays Ng5?

    • @priyansh1210
      @priyansh1210 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nc2?

    • @biseln2002
      @biseln2002 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@priyansh1210 Bro this comment was 3 years ago

  • @matherbrett
    @matherbrett 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Can someone please explain to me the point of cheating in online chess? LIke, if you want to only win why not just play vs easy bots?

    • @dexterlawliet8521
      @dexterlawliet8521 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Maybe because they wanted points and it "makes" them look strong and it pleases them(cheaters). It also satisfies them to destroy players that can't beat by their own strength.

    • @ASLUHLUHC3
      @ASLUHLUHC3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Because bots aren't a conscious entity

    • @RG001100
      @RG001100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Exploiting things is fun. Getting away with something you're not supposed to be doing is a bit fun. Continuing to cheat after not getting caught seems natural. In a competitive game, there's at least a little bit of fun in beating someone. You also don't really have to pay the cost of risking failure. It's somewhat pornographic: simulating the benefit without putting in the effort for the actual thing.

    • @matherbrett
      @matherbrett 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@RG001100 jesus. you made it sound like I might enjoy cheating. thanks for the good answer

    • @drunkenhobo8020
      @drunkenhobo8020 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Some people have the mentality that cheating is part of the game. The object is to win the chess game and if they do it by cheating they've simply outsmarted their opponent by doing so.
      Other people will justify it to themselves as "not really cheating". They'll justify using Stockfish as it was just showing them the move they were going to do. I mean they're so smart they were obviously going to think about that move. They didn't really need the computer.

  • @michaelabad4967
    @michaelabad4967 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You’re the best! Big fan for a while

  • @deadtricon4408
    @deadtricon4408 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's so odd when you see high level moves that would usually work get shutdown

  • @ThatRaisinTho
    @ThatRaisinTho 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The one thing I haven’t seen anyone talking about is the thumbnail, it’s pretty epic

  • @BlxckJupiter
    @BlxckJupiter ปีที่แล้ว +2

    gotham finally covering this lol

  • @LapinCretinSH
    @LapinCretinSH 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My morning routine ! Keep up the content its great

  • @rzno3414
    @rzno3414 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Daniel typing so fast, how much wpm?

    • @letsprogress4124
      @letsprogress4124 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      190

    • @Nnm26
      @Nnm26 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He's close to 200 I think since he played typeracer on stream before.

    • @rzno3414
      @rzno3414 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dang thats crazy

    • @lyntonmysun
      @lyntonmysun 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Over 3000

    • @rykehuss3435
      @rykehuss3435 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Nnm26 No he is not. That would put him in competition with legit best typers in the world like Sean Wrona. I can believe that he can peak for a few seconds at that speed with easy text, but not hold an average for many many races.

  • @ryanhinman9162
    @ryanhinman9162 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The prophet has been unable to beat the fish

    • @trequor
      @trequor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's his upbringing. Daniel may be Russian, but he is a sweet summer child of San Francisco's sunny shores. Stockfish is laid bare to the Siberian winter for weeks on end. It is hardened within the freezing kiln of true suffering.

  • @adamwoods6373
    @adamwoods6373 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I was disappointed to see speed run videos when I'd enjoyed the coaching videos so much. Then I watch a speed run video and realized I enjoyed it more than the coaching videos 😂.

  • @ЯрославНурбеков-ж3и
    @ЯрославНурбеков-ж3и ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Danya reaction is something amazing

    • @62calum
      @62calum หลายเดือนก่อน

      👀

  • @alexgabriel5877
    @alexgabriel5877 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    that cheatah kushalbanerjee closed their own account on Dec 17, 2020. lel

    • @sunnyyadav5065
      @sunnyyadav5065 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You mean this series is not in real time? I mean that game already happened in 2020?

    • @timdavis7398
      @timdavis7398 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@sunnyyadav5065 when he loaded the game into stockfish, the date 12-17-2020 was shown. For a 22-1-2021 Posting

    • @TW-sh2un
      @TW-sh2un 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sunny Yadav He’s streaming on twitch first then the editor has to take out the speedrun parts and turn it into a video so it’s a bit behind in speed

    • @sunnyyadav5065
      @sunnyyadav5065 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TW-sh2un Got it.

    • @sunnyyadav5065
      @sunnyyadav5065 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@timdavis7398 ok

  • @MrSupernova111
    @MrSupernova111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I couldn't stop laughing the whole time!! I like how optimistic Danny was the entire game! hahaha

  • @brdl6192
    @brdl6192 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hmm just wondering, what would Stockfish think about GM moves like danya's , hikaru's or Magnus's moves? Would it rate the magnus moves as best or would it not understand about the 'human genius' ?

    • @BroCactus
      @BroCactus 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Qimodis lol

    • @brdl6192
      @brdl6192 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Qimodis haha never said i was :)

    • @rykehuss3435
      @rykehuss3435 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It would rate their accuracy high, it would think theyre playing good chess. Just not the 'optimal' moves the engine thinks are best all the time. Thats where even the best human players start to fall behind. Move after move of not the best move in difficult board states and the engine just gains an advantage move after move that the human players might not even realize.
      And then if you make one inaccurate move, engine crushes you completely. Dont even need to blunder, just an inaccurate move.

    • @thesingingfly
      @thesingingfly หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mathematical calculation does not map out to human intuition at all, especially in terms of geometrical pattern recognition. Engines don't pursue geometrical plans. They just happen to spot the best moves on the board through finding the moves that yield the highest mathematical materialistic evaluation at a certain depth (amount of moves ahead that the engine sees). This becomes way harder to do for a human when the position is chaotic or not easy.
      Short story, engines would also find lots of mistakes and blunders in grandmaster moves. Engines just find less of them in grandmaster moves than they do for a 1000 elo player, because the basic *human* chess principles we built up over the decades (develop your pieces, castle, take advantage of holes, etc) that we built up over the years just so happen to not be egregious mathematical blunders most of the time.

  • @youtubegangstrz6513
    @youtubegangstrz6513 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What do you do if you know somebody is cheating in a tournament?

  • @mranonymous707
    @mranonymous707 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Anyone notice that second game player was named vanya Hargreaves, a character from Umbrella Academy??

  • @periodic98
    @periodic98 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    27:01 Ng5? Then maybe Nc2,Rc1 how is black winning there?

  • @RandyLeftHandy
    @RandyLeftHandy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So he's moving his knight around to throw off the accuracy. Is that right?

  • @kendrickisthegoat7491
    @kendrickisthegoat7491 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Plot twist: It’s an infant alien that just learned how to play chess.

  • @Aartsdalen
    @Aartsdalen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If this whole chess thing doesn't work out you could be one hell of a court typist

    • @trequor
      @trequor 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      petition to put a Danya caricature in the Phoenix Wright DLC

  • @purplism4857
    @purplism4857 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    danya you have a nice soul, i can see it cause i did tons of acid when i was a teenager

    • @liculle
      @liculle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Had me in the first half.

    • @genex8944
      @genex8944 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hahaha.

    • @purplism4857
      @purplism4857 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@liculle just like the acid

    • @trequor
      @trequor 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      jesus loves you

  • @user-qb9wc6qw3f
    @user-qb9wc6qw3f 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    12:33 is that your computer burning cuz it's running stockfish?

  • @Borni84
    @Borni84 ปีที่แล้ว

    14:30 rc2 is a such a bad ass move... 4000 elo

  • @Qhsjahajw
    @Qhsjahajw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is the same thing that happened with Nigel short , but some deluded people say it was Fischer

    • @odysseus1220
      @odysseus1220 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The king walk thing?

    • @Qhsjahajw
      @Qhsjahajw 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@odysseus1220 yes

    • @Qhsjahajw
      @Qhsjahajw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nigel lost 8-0 (according to what I heard on agad's channel)

    • @odysseus1220
      @odysseus1220 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Qhsjahajw wasn’t that in the 90’s? Did they have engines?

    • @Qhsjahajw
      @Qhsjahajw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@odysseus1220 it was in 2000, and 1994 ibm or some other computer beat Kaspy in a blitz match and in 1997 beat him in classical. So they were strong enough in 2000

  • @birdog23
    @birdog23 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    29:06 couldnt he just take ur Queen with his Queen here? why did he resign?

    • @AndyNelson001
      @AndyNelson001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Knight to f3 forks the king and the queen, so he ends up up a clean knight from the sequence

  • @dianachristal3104
    @dianachristal3104 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sensei you are great......happy to be your student

  • @fujiapple9675
    @fujiapple9675 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    10:22 and he "thinks" in this position

  • @alamacabra774
    @alamacabra774 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    being called a cheater in fps games when youre legit is the best feeling ever

  • @eladhen9735
    @eladhen9735 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does anybody know what is the name of that line in the kings indian fianchetto variation?

  • @GTSilvano
    @GTSilvano 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What chess GUI is Naroditsky using? Really interested in the evaluation he's showing with commentary from the app/engine.

  • @Toshineko
    @Toshineko 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah, it's unfortunate that cheaters is still a common problem in online chess, but I think it has to do with human psychology, for example,
    1. Ego. Since chess is a complex game, there will be instances of players losing over and over, and this could create the illusion that players need to ''play perfectly'' so they used Stockfish to cheat instead, hoping no body would notice.
    2. Players thought they could get away with this stuff on beginners and intermediate players, if they don't develop or practice their ''Chess detective'' skills, looking for second delays, weird moves, and analysis always showing 99.7 or above.
    3. Players who cheated believed they could not win after losing over and over.
    4. Some cheaters would brag or get impatient with players playing ''slow moves''. There was a video on GingerGM where he played a cheater, and this cheater was impatient with him, that he said, ''Dude, fast moves please, you play like a computer.''
    5. This happened when you talked about how a cheater also accused you of cheating, and this mentality might happened because they thought they're playing an engine, so they thought it's fair to use the engine to cheat as well.
    And sadly, I think it's kind of difficult to detect cheaters, because some won't rely on 3 or 5 second delays and would wait purposedly for a longer time to show that they're ''not cheating'' at all. Cheating is still common due to the psychological context surrounding the game of chess, and so, there's little we can do about it, except just report the cheaters and hope they go away.

  • @BeliaLove
    @BeliaLove 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    what keyboard is danya using?

  • @Soyapudding
    @Soyapudding 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    On an unrelated note Danya type so fast like woah

  • @chad-u.s.a5629
    @chad-u.s.a5629 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Still learning from this awesome speed run. On the last game, why did the opponent resign with the queen move d4? What am I missing? Wouldn’t his next move take your queen?

    • @twistedsector
      @twistedsector 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nf3+ forks the queen and black is up a knight

    • @TRXSTA38
      @TRXSTA38 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You would learn even more from this awesome speed run if you watched the entire video. He talks about that multiple times. ;)

  • @YoungJustice1997
    @YoungJustice1997 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great instructional video

  • @mosheferry7637
    @mosheferry7637 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Daniel, just curious - how do you know that your audience when answering your questions about what to do next -- don't look up chess engines. And you essentially are getting help from engines. Just curious

    • @sherllymentalism4756
      @sherllymentalism4756 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He doesn't ask the chat for help, he's done maybe 2 chat suggested moves right? Maybe they are engine moves but it's usually him asking chat what the best move is that he already knows x

    • @trequor
      @trequor 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      His chat could be cheating, but I doubt that a cheater would gain much enjoyment from these lessons for long so if it's a problem I bet that it is sporadic. Ratings are refunded anyways so it's so harm to his opponents even if he "cheats" by accident. It's similar to when he coaches Charlie's games; it's normally against the chess.com rules to have help from anyone else, but exceptions are made for instructor-student situations and ratings are refunded.

  • @kabobchsm8497
    @kabobchsm8497 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    King’s Indian: 0:30, 19:39

  • @althompson3085
    @althompson3085 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Enjoying this technique!

  • @leadnitrate2194
    @leadnitrate2194 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This guy was Pooja's brother.

  • @TrapGoose.
    @TrapGoose. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maybe you should turn the sub alert sounds off

  • @swiftysnail9053
    @swiftysnail9053 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cheater 2: electric boogaloo

  • @andreaspernadi1121
    @andreaspernadi1121 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    me : Wow our sensei is really wise
    our Sensei : 17:51
    me : I'm sure he premoved that

  • @trequor
    @trequor 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    3:47 by god its the Naroditsky Super Shitter!

  • @sethwilliams8625
    @sethwilliams8625 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Did Danya just speak in a Russian accent for a sec at 7:16? What was that?

    • @pauingles5810
      @pauingles5810 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I mean, he speaks Russian and he's family is Russian. He could've perfectly switched it up for a se

    • @AnandSivaram22
      @AnandSivaram22 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      A kaspy Russian impersonation

  • @floriansautier7169
    @floriansautier7169 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    After the bondclouds opening from Hikaru, the bondknight from Daniel Naroditsky !

  • @orpheus6398
    @orpheus6398 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I was there... It was the most disgusting thing in the history. JESUS WEPT

    • @trequor
      @trequor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ... Cr1tikal was crying???

    • @orpheus6398
      @orpheus6398 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@trequor lmao

  • @大阪日本-y7x
    @大阪日本-y7x 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Could you analyse some of your games against alireza Magnus penguins

  • @redhadoken3172
    @redhadoken3172 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Guys It’s pooja’s cousin.
    (If you’ve seen Eric Hansen vs Cheaters)

    • @trequor
      @trequor 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      is he related to Chris?

  • @LeventK
    @LeventK 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Believe it or not, in that critical e5 position, I was shocked how Rxd4 wasn't good. Then he checks the computer... :) I feel proud lol