The ULTIMATE trail bike? Santa Cruz Hightower v2.
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Ah yes, the quest for the perfect bike.
This seems to be the biggest obsession pursued by many mountain bikers.
A topic filled with heated debates and passionate opinions. The quiver killer, the hover bike, the magical suspension design that allows you to pedal and climb with levitational ease, while magically floating down gnarly descents.
This long term review has it all. Climbing performance, downhill shreds, wannabe ninja's.....
Watch, comment, subscribe, GO SHRED!
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Thanks for the review and all those really valuable replies to comments!
4:38 those colors...
Thanks for watching! It was the most amazing fall we've had in many years here in the Eastern U.S.
The weather and the colors were simply amazing! Definitely another one of 2020's silver linings.
Solid advice. Thanks for sharing. Just waiting on a new Hightower build, super stoked!
Right on, Paul! Stoked for you, you're going to love it.
Been on my 2021 HT for about 3 months now and it's been everything I had hoped for and more. This bike has me feeling comfortable on the climbs and especially on the descends. Such a great bike that provides lots of confidence. Your review is spot on!
Couldn't agree more!
how does it handle slow rocky corners?
That was one of the best bike reviews I've ever seen on YT! (And your video production quality is equally impressive.) Nice job - SUBSCRIBED!
Wow, thanks! That means a lot, Brent. I'll keep them coming.
My wife and I will officially be calling Chattanooga home this spring and while looking into the SE MTB scene I came across your channel. I've really been enjoying your content! I actually picked up a Cascade Link for my Bronson after seeing your review although, I haven't had a chance to install it yet. Anyway, keep up the great videos! Hopefully, I'll catch you out on the trail sometime!
That's awesome! Stoked for your move and I'm really glad you've found and enjoy the channel. You'll love the cascade link when you get around to installing it. Perfect for the east coast chunk and chatter. I moved to Chattanooga from Asheville about 5 years ago, and am glad I made the leap. Give me a shout when you get to town next spring!
Came here from MTB TH-cam creators group on facebook great video very good quality and a lot of work went into it awesome work I subbed.
Much appreciated!
Great video man, I feel the hours that went into this, really awesome production quality!
Thanks a ton, Peter! Cheers.
3500 miles this year, damn son. Congrats on that!! Just got my Izzo but already looking at my next (second) bike being a beefy style. I'll have to keep the Hightower in mind after watching this🤙
It was a good year for riding! Cheers, IroncutterMTB 🤘
nice review, thnx. Love the gold accents with the blue frame 👍
Thank you, I’m glad you enjoyed it! 🤘
Great review, really love the new look of their line up... love the new Bronson also!
That Bronson is sharp!
Great vid. Great review. Great bike.
I have a Kona Process 153 G2....which I absolutely love. But the SC HT is on the upgrade short-list.
Thanks, Simon! That 153 is like descending on a cloud! Butter smooth. It was on my short list, but it wore me out much faster climbing on it. I think you’ll appreciate the HT’s pedal efficiency.
Great vid! I’ve been thinking of adding the cascade link to my Bronson. Keep up the nice work
Thank you, Derek!
Beautiful and comprehensive video. Good job man.
Much appreciated, aigility! I'm glad you enjoyed it.
Awesome review. The coil rubbing is a bummer though. I agree with you, it'd be nice to see that opening little bit bigger
Thank you, Trail Dude!
I just went on my second short ride on my 2021 HT. Compare to my 5010, it’s a beast. Can wait to put to serious test. Great review
Right on!
Came from an 2012 Heckler to a Tallboy 3 and now Hightower V2 and it’s the best by far! So capable and hopefully improved further with the cascade link on order. Great vids
Cheers!
What's about climbing with the Hightower vs the Tallboy ? I fear that the Hightower is too heavy and not responsive enough when it comes to climbing. Could you please confirm that ?
We converted THIS BIKE into a MULLET! Check out the new Hightower Mullet conversion video here: th-cam.com/video/u8jXF_VWGVI/w-d-xo.html
Great review man. There’s so many great bikes out there. It’s a great time to be a mountain biker! For me, I’m loving my stumpjumper. Great bike for nearly everything.
The Stumpjumper is an awesome bike too! That EVO is a scorcher! Cheers, CJ.
Great bikes that will take MONTHS to receive .
Very entertaining and useful review. Really enjoyed watching you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for this review! I just got my Hightower C and love it. My first ride was at Spider Mountain, TX. It ate it all up, changed everything for me. Unfortunately tested positive for COVID after that ride but get out of quarantine this weekend. Look forward to getting some epic rides in. Also, looking closely at the Cascade lower link.
Congrats on the new Hightower! Sorry to hear about your Covid "luck". I hope you didn't get too sick/symptomatic and get well quick if so. Get rested up to get out and crush it on the new bike when quarantine is over.
2.44 Thats my baby :) 2015 Hightower, looking to upgrade eventually to either a Canyon Spectral, new Hightower, or a Yeti sb150, but my current Hightower seems to be unkillable lol and I ride it well because it's all I've ever known to be honest.
Got it second hand just over a year ago for 3 grand USD and its the CC version with some good upgrades, it has envy carbon wheels with the best DTswiss hubs they did at the time (cant recall what they are called), Magura 7 brakes, a fox float x2 (2018 one), still has the original rockshox pike fork but the travel has been increased to 150mm from 140mm, Sram xo1 drive train, Sram carbon crank. more than enough fancy stuff for my level of riding parts wise.
A criticism is the geometry feels a bit "tame" is how id put it, again I've not ridden any other bikes for more than 1 trail and obviously said bikes weren't set up for me, but I get a lot of comments of people saying the bike looks too small for me reach wise (its an XL and I'm 6'3), that being said you'd expect it to feel a bit nimble for a 29r, with a bit steeper head angle than new trail bikes and the frame being a bit small for me by the modern standard, but it really doesn't feel like that at all to me. Feels hard to jump anything on it, hard to throw it round corners. I live in Laguna Beach and can ride all the trails here on this bike which says alot as there is some really gnarly trails here, but it definitely doesn't enjoy it lol, it can handle really chunky terrain but it can get very sketchy sometimes. On a plus note it climbs easy and its a very fast bike, when the terrain isn't too challenging like simple single track stuff with some little chunk but mainly flow, the bike just seems to roll fast, when its easier going sections I'm way faster than all my peers, I just get left behind when they are mowing through gnarly rock gardens like nothing and hitting doubles comfortably.
This new Hightower really does look like all the things I didn't like have been addressed! looks way more capable and definitely more justified in being called an all rounder than my current hightower. definitely lead contender for when i eventually get a new bike!
You are a good rider and respect your flow. The HTv2 is a beaut of a bike, looks good. Great review overall.
I really appreciate that! Glad you enjoyed the review :)
Great vid. Rolling on a 2019 ht lt size xxl. Does everything well but get pedal strikes when too aggressive and blind. Smooths out nicely after a few runs on same trails. Would have gotten the megatower if I knew the brand better when I bought.
For sure! It's the same with the HTv2 in LO mode, but that's really common with all of these long, low and slack geo's. Increasing the fork to 160mm on the HTv2 really helped with that and made the bike feel more balanced for my style. You still have to be mindful of it though.
So what your telling me is I need to get rid of my 2018 Hightower!!! 😜. Love this video! Especially the karate kid moves on the giant Boulder! Been riding Santa Cruz for many years, great 🚴
Ah, but the 2018 does have coil clearance!
I'm glad you liked the karate kid moves. I felt like such a dork filming that! hah!
Great review. I had the V1 version and loved it. Now I roll on a Switchblade and I would share all of your sentiments for the Pivot. Great job and happy to subscribe to your channel!
Hard to go wrong with Pivot! Cheers, and thanks for subscribing to the channel.
Got my Hightower in July off 2020 and just love it. Had the Bronson but this bike is so much better.
Heck yeah! 🤘
This channel is going to blowup. I can say I was here at 1.47k subs :)
I love your optimism! I really do have a great time producing these episodes and feel very fortunate for all of the peoples whose paths I've crossed along the way and as a result of this channel so far. Cheers, Barath!
I agree 100%
Hey ! Thanks for the review, very nice video and good data. Could you help me with something, do you have a recommendation in the size of the bike. I am 5.8 tall and right now I am having the opportunity to buy a Hightower 2020 but in L Size. What are your thoughts! Cheers
Awesome review! I think this will be my next bike!
Good choice!
This review is so... 2020. LOL!! Nice job. Was eyeing this bike to upgrade my... wait for it... 2009 Kona 29er Hard Tail. Think I'll pull the trigger!
Good to see a fellow east coaster!
Heck yeah, loved my Kona Honzo! I think you'll really like the HTv2. Cheers!
You should also look at a modern slack long travel hardtail they are extremely capable and under rated. I ride one and when I swap with my mates hightower I notice the drop in efficiency and also it does not build speed any where near as well when on flow trails that lend themselves to pumping. I definitely prefer my hardtail. Go and ride one on some trails you will be surprised.
SC just needs to get with it and change the geometry to the cascade link, but pick the height up a little.
Such a beautiful machine. I put 38s, cascade, megneg and pirelli tires on.
Very nice!
Couldn’t agree more! I have a 21’ HT & she’s a beast ! Coming off a stumpy btw ...
I get so many compliments on the bike too ! Yeeeyeeee 🥜💯🇺🇸🤙🏻
Yeee yee yeee!
Regarding the shock rub. Coils rubbing in the tunnel isn’t so much an “issue to address” like a bug or a design flaw that you’re pointing out, as much as it is your wish that they didn’t design the bike that way. It’s was a conscious decision to make an air only bike. All coils are non-compatible on purpose.
Great video!!! Thanks
I own a v2 Hightower cc x01 and absolutely love it
That's a stellar build!
One ring to rule them all. Great review. Two things I don't like - price and 29" wheels
Great review, the beginning of the video was pretty funny. I will be receiving my 2020 Hightower in a couple of days. Cannot wait!
Heck yeah, you'll be absolutely stoked on it, Lance!
Great review man. Really high quality. We are very similar riding style wise, though I'm here in socal. I have the same bike, same color, and have owned it since around August 2019. Not quite as many miles logged by a few thousand to be certain, so I feel qualified to comment. I completely agree with your points. I also have the cascade link, and upped the front fork (lyrik) to 160. I will say it rode great with the cc link and 150 fork up front, but too many pedal strikes. Upping the fork rebalanced it and it's a ripper. My one regret is not putting a wrap on the downtube, the paint is very soft and is more pitted there after a year than any other bike I've owned. Also, my other complaint is after having the cascade link, I seem to need to tighten linkage bolts every few rides or so even with blue lock tite.
Also, thanks for your notes on the coil shock. It's a bummer for sure it rubbed, though cascade claims you can run a fox coil no problem with an sls. I have my doubts. I think the cc would be best bet for that, it's possible the layup is slightly different and thinner there. Notes for others interested in cc link or suspension on this bike: I ultimately decide to keep the stock rock shox super deluxe select plus and not pursue coil for expense reasons, doubts it would fit, and ultimately the fact the air shock feels awesome. I did remove one volume spacer with the cc link. I also tried cushcore in the rear and though it did help with suspension a little, the pain of install and weight penalty which you could absolutely feel while riding let me to hate it and get rid of it so I recommend against it.
160mm definitely makes a better match up front. I preferred it with the stock link in the LO position as well. Interesting about the linkage bolts. I just pulled mine for the first time to check bearings, and never had them loosen since initial install. I wonder if that's been common with other people as well.
I tried the SLS 500# spring on a DHX2 on the CC link and it rubs as well, sadly.
I agree with you, the increase in performance from the CC link alone makes the SuperDeluxe feel so much better, and it's by far the primary upgrade I would recommend over replacing the shock.
Also agree with Cush Core. I have a rear wheel I run for shuttling and park with a i9 grade 300 rim and cush core, and I would never want to pedal up long climbs. The cush core is such a pain to deal with outside of the rotational weight as well.
Cheers!
How are they able to make a storage compartment in a bike frame and the frame still be strong?
Great review...the Hightower is one of the most versatile bikes there is. I still love my V1.
That red V1 is one of the nicest looking bikes ever.
@@SemiSendy still can’t part with my V1. Such a great bike and I can run both wheel sizes
Best review yet. Love my hightower!
Glad you liked it, Jeff! Cheers
(Leaving a comment for the algorithm)
But also glad to see you're back!
Thank you Ben! Feeling healthy and stoked. Cheers my friend 🍻
It is the perfect bike for me.No quest. THX for this awesome video
🤘😊
Just bought one, cant wait for trails to open!
Stoked for you, you’re going to be all smiles on this whip!
Price please???
@@sakib9946 a carbon S build (SRAM GX) is 5700
I just got into mtb last year at 40 with a 2020 120mm down country bike, which is great for my local trails but my local rides quickly turned into traveling several hours every weekend to pisgah and dupont. Just got a 2021 stumpy evo 🤦♂️😆 2 bikes and counting 💪
That Stumpy Evo is SWEET!!!!! Such an incredible bike. Cheers, Shane 😎
Great video, and I love the inclusion of the types of trails you rode so I could see what you meant by "technical descents". I guess my only question left is, have you ridden the ibis Ripmo recently?
I love my HT with a fox factory 38. I to have cascade link with longer stroke rear shock.
With that set-up you're set to shred it all!
I have the same exact one bought in 9/19 when they came out got the full xx1 axs and dropper, paid once and also cried once.
New sub here I’m between this one and the yetisb140 it’s so hard to decide lol what you guys think ? Team yeti or Santa Cruz
Love the video, you made a great review of the bike. But I have a question, how this new version of the Hightower have almost non reviews from the biggest TH-cam bike channels? Why the big name's on TH-cam a skipping the bike, is a Santa Cruz is a new model but still no reviews from them.
I choose it after testing but just bought when watch you video, after 4 months have no regrets, just looking to get the cascade link to use in bike parks or downhill runs.
Keep with the great content. And thanks
Thank you Helder, I'm glad it helped you land on the Hightower. I'm approaching two years on mine and it's still performing perfectly. As for other reviews, I've seen others out there, but I couldn't tell you why anyone specifically wouldn't have.
Cheers!
Good review! You surely put the bike to the test and the footage supports the capabilities. Question: have you ride a Pivot Switchblade, since in my mind a similar field bike? Thanks!
I’ve ridden the switchblade and liked it. I felt like it was pretty on par with the high tower with the stock Santa Cruz lower link. I prefer tge HTv2 with the cascade link, but now that cascade makes a link for the switchblade, I’d really love to try that out to compare both bikes with cascade links on them.
Really nice review! I guess this video reassures me to buy a Hightower 2 AL frame
You should!
@@SemiSendy My frame actually got shipped today, hopefully it will arrive on Saturday
@@steffgofpv9681 heck yeah!
Switch out every time you say Hightower for Bronson and that would be my long term review of the Bronson V3. Nice vid. Beautiful places and great riding. 🤘🤙
The Bronson is awesome! The more playful and nimble brother of the HT for sure.
Why do you prefer the Bronson?
@@HarveyJohnWillmott as Semi-Sendy said- more playful and nimble. My background is bmx in the 80s, and while I may not play and jib like I used to, I still prefer a more playful bike. And with 2.6s I don’t notice much rollover difference in all but the slowest, gnarliest trails, and with a frame size up (XL) it is super stable at high speed.
@@dadventuretv2538 What advantage does the Hightower have over the Bronson then?
@@HarveyJohnWillmott well I think your question is kind of the answer. But of course that is against a Bronson the way I spec’d it. It you have a Bronson at your suggested size, or maybe even sized down to make it even more flickable like some people do, and/or have smaller width tires, then you will notice more of the difference of the HT being able to monster truck more due to the better rollover of the 29ers. Another great question is, what is the difference now between the Bronson V4 (MX wheels) and the HT? I gotta demo a new Bronson MX and maybe answer that question. Bottom line- Some people just love 29ers- rolling big wheels, lettin em take up a lot of the work, pedal efficiency once up to speed and ability to naturally maintain speed once up to speed without much effort. If that’s your bag, then that is really why you should go HT. For me tho, I prefer a bit more playful of a bike and to be more active on the bike, I prefer faster acceleration of the smaller wheels even if it means I have to work a bit more to keep my speed up once I have it, since that is naturally how I ride and am going to do that anyway. Obviously you can do all this stuff on a 29er also, I just find it much easier on a 27.5 for an average Joe. Hope this helps. If you’re thinking of buying and trying to decide demo both if at all possible. I also have a bunch of vids (older now) talking about the Bronson.
Very good video on this one. I used to have the CC version in the same color. I did a comparison to the Ripmo v2 earlier this year. I recently learned SC changed the shock that now the new HT comes with 145mm of travel. Does the Cas. link take it up to 150mm now? You didn't mention Dupont in NC. You have to ride there if you haven't yet, its fantastic and that bike will slay it there. I have a feeling the HT or the Mega will be next in their update list to release.
Thank you, I'm glad you liked it! I use to live in Asheville and rode Dupont on occasion. We did an episode on here covering some of my old favorites there!
The shock is still the same. They added a 2.5mm reducer on the first year SuperDeluxe's to take it from a 55mm stroke to a 52.5mm stroke. A lot of people went in and removed the 2.5mm spacer and it never presented any clearance issues. Santa Cruz opted to not put the spacer in for 2020. The reducer is just a small piece of Delrin, so it's easy to do away with for anyone interested. I never removed mine though, I walk the edge of butt buzz from the rear tire enough already! :)
I recently inquired about the HT for 2021, and was told it was not up for a revision this year. My hope was that they would fix the tunnel clearance, but no luck yet.
@@SemiSendy Totally agree on the tunnel clearance. For its intent, why make it so small to only fit an air shock.
Awesome bike! I was saving my pennies from one of these but ended up going with a Fezzari Delano Peak. Pretty similar bike and I'm super happy with it so far, now what to do with the $2000 I saved....
Right on! Ive got some friends who are very satisfied with their Fezzari's!
great video!
Glad you enjoyed it!
This earned you a subscribe, great vid!
Awesome, thank you!
Owning a HT2, the cascade components link is a game changer! That with a 160mm folk and the bike will do anything.
Truth!
So why did you not just buy a megatower instead and save money on expensive fork upgrades and overpriced links 🤷♂️
Megatower is 160 in the back… I wanted something that would climb a bit better, the HT has slightly better geometry for that. I built the bike up so the fork didn’t cost extra and the link makes the suspension more progressive, but not sure how it would compare to the MT.
@@pauldalpozzo Ah cool, I get you now. So how does it climb with the cascade link installed?
@@tonwhelan if you go Megatower and want to gain the same characteristics that the CC link offers, then you're venturing into 170/180 territory.
147/160 vs. 170/170+
As for overpriced, I just can't really agree with you there. Between the quality and performance, it's been worth every penny for me.
Does bike already come assembled
Brother great content!
Appreciate it!
Nice dude. Great review.
Thanks, homie!
Great Review.
Glad you liked it!
Hi Rich, nice "long term review" but just wanted to ask about the Cascade update.
Now you have front and back a 150mm supsension or did you also an upgrade at the front?
Is the cascade a must have update on the HT V2 or just nice to have? Did not a lot of rides with the bike now, but in spring the bike will be used lot more and the question is, try first without Cascade upgrade or from the beginning?
Would be nice to have a comment, cheers Jose
Hi Jose, happy to help. I've been running the fork at 160, which I changed over long before the Cascade Link was released. I like having the bike more aggressive for rowdier terrain, and 160 out front felt incredibly well balanced even with the stock link.
Everyone has different preferences and local terrain, so you may want to try the bike out in the "HI" and "LO" positions on the stock link first. If you decide the "LO" setting is what you prefer, then I would definitely consider the CC link.
Are you still running the stock 150mm fork travel, I road a friends hightower that had a 160 fork and that cascade link and liked it so much I bought a Megatower, very similar geo with a bit more adjustment and the ability to run a coil.
Running a 36 at 160mm. Nicely balanced. The Mega is a sweet beast!
100% agree with this review. The limit to the Hightower V2 is me. Curious to know how many chains you've been through in that time.
I think 4? One was a premature destruction though 😂
Hi! Hi is the weight of your bike?
I supossse not cush core using..
About the cascade linkage, do you experience any hits with rocks on the BB?
Thax
Bike weight ranges from 31.5lb to 33lb depending on it's current set up. I use cushcore sometimes. I don't have anymore BB strikes than on the stock link in the LO position.
How does it handle on the downhill bike/ski parks? Looking at getting the Hightower for mainly aggressive trail riding and some downhill bike parks here is southern Utah
It's pretty impressive at the bike park. I have a big bruiser DH bike as well, and honestly there's very few things at any of our parks on the east coast that I would ride on the DH bike that I wouldn't want to ride on the Hightower. It's pretty incredible what it's capable of.
Cool video! Did you upgrade the wheels? My Tallboy C S came with DT swiss 370 hubs. Not in love with them. Looking to upgrade. Yours sound a bit buzzier...
Thank you! I have a couple sets of i9 wheels I keep and swap from bike to bike. I did ride the 370's, and can't say I was a fan of them. Their 350's and 240's are excellent though.
Were you able to bottom the front and rear suspension? Like, would you think it could get better with 10-20mm more travel?
Rarely, and not on anything that an added 10-20mm difference would negate. Only on big rougher landings a bit more suited to a full on DH bike.
Sites for parts?
Which bar stem, seat tube collar and grips are those? Thanks
Hi Giordano! The bar is the Santa Cruz Carbon 800, the stem is the i9 A35 in gold, seat tube collar is the wolftooth in gold and the grips are Chromag Squarewave in Brown/Gold.
Cheers
What you say is the most standout differences from current 2022 HighTower and the 2022 Stump evo?
I wish I could answer that objectively, but I haven't ridden the latest version of the Stumpy Evo for a fair comparison. Hope to get my hands on the new gen this season though.
Very well made video! I’m subbing. How comfortable did you feel racing enduro on this bike? I’m looking to get a bike to ride rowdier local trails but also race some enduros and rip some park. It seems to me like this would be a great bike but I’d love to know your thoughts.
It truly is impressive just how rowdy it can get and stay pretty composed. It's definitely on the long travel end for a trail bike. If you need a single bike quiver for regular trail riding, enduro's and park... this would be my pick.
@@SemiSendy thx so much for the info
Is your bike a custom build? Carbon or alloy frame? I have an alloy S build and I love it.
It’s a carbon S build. The S builds are a great kit!
Price please???????
Great review!
EA AC, glad you liked it!
@@SemiSendy I got mine 2 days ago. In this video are you reviewing the 2020 model?
@@eaacbcs yes, but nothing changed for 2021. Actually, I think they took the 2.5mm reducer out of the Super Deluxe, but it just adds 5mm of rear travel, which can be done on the 2020 model as well.
Quick question: what other bikes in this class have you ridden? I can understand why you wouldn’t want to call them out in the video, but it would be good to know. Like a reference point that the viewers can use to frame your opinion. Great video by the way 👍
Hi Ride DMC, the ones I’ve ridden since I was in the market for this bike include:
Process 134 & 153, SB130 & 150, Optic & Sight, Spur, Sentinel & Smuggler, 5010, Bronson, Blur, Tallboy & Mega, Ripley & Ripmo, Stumpy & Enduro, Ranger. Fuel EX.
Spent enough time to at least adjust to proper sag on all but the Fuel, which was a bike swap on trail with someone close to my size. Rest were demo’s.
What is the decal on your top tube?
That's from AMS (All Mountain Style). It's the "couture" pattern.
what do you think of the Santa Cru Bronson as an every do it all bike..
If you're a die hard 27.5 rider, I think it's a perfect fit for an all-arounder!
Great video! How tall are you and what size you ride? Thanks
Thanks, Billy! I’m 6’ and the large feels great.
Good Review!
🤘😊
very informative, thanks
Glad I could help!
Awesome review!
Are you running a 160 or 170mm Fox 38? I just converted my Hightower v2 to a mullet bike, installed the Cascade mullet link, and have a 170mm Fox 38 on the way.
Nvm I just answered my own question . Saw your video with the 160mm Fox 36
Nice, yeah I'm still running that 160mm 36. Absolutely love it.
I would love to hear your thoughts on the CC mullet link. I've been considering it for months.
Its pretty cold and snowy here right now so I haven't really been able to properly test it yet. Definitely feels more progressive though
Any reason to try a DPX2 on a Hightower V2?
I know there's been a lot of people who've swapped to the DPX2. I haven't tried personally, but others really seem to like it.
Rocky Mountain slayer is my quiver killer
What’s your height and what size do you ride? Thanks!
Hey John, I'm 6' and I ride a size Large. I hope that helps!
How does the bronson compare to this bike? Really considering getting a bronson
The new Bronson is pretty awesome. I think of it as a mullet version of the HT but with more shock fit options. Definitely a great bike!
@@SemiSendy thanks for the reply! It's because it's a mullet I'm wanting to buy it. Just something different and supposedly really playful. Great video too btw, love finding a new channel with awesome content
What’s the better upgrade? Cascade link or the new 36? I put about 1k miles on the stock lyrik ultimate build and I’m thinking about some upgrades in the near future. Also, have you tried changing the rear shock stroke length by removing the spacer?
Good question. I really like the 36, it's been an awesome fork. That said, A buddy installed a Push HC97 on his Lyrik not long after I swapped to the 36, and I was really impressed with the huge improvement it made to the Lyrik. Since the cost of that Push damper and Cascade link are less than a 36 combined, I'd go that route if forced to choose. I really couldn't imagine getting rid of the Cascade Link.
@@SemiSendy thank you so much! I’m pretty sold on the cascade link after servicing my stock link bearings as it seems like an easy swap. Maybe I’ll do that first. I put a 2.5 gnardog in the SD ultimate and that added some much needed progression, but I’m interested to see how the link feels. I’ll also look at the push dampener. The lyrik ultimate isn’t bad, it just seems to get a bit overwhelmed and gets stuck deep in the travel in the chunky stuff. Take care 🤙🏼
@@TravisSuttle Absolutely! It sounds like the Lyrik is packing up on you. Have you done much messing around with it by means of increasing rebound incrementally?
@@SemiSendy exactly! It’s been packing up on me, but I haven’t messed with the rebound too much, I figured it was more of a dampener issue. I’ll give that a try, I assume I just speed the rebound a click or two and repeat a section to see if it eliminates the packing?
@@TravisSuttle I modified the negative spring spacer on my lyrik to create more negative volume and it noticeably improved the midstroke support. But you should also get your rebound correct too.
Have you ever tried a Ripmo?
If so please compare them.
I actually almost purchased a Ripmo V1 before getting on the Hightower V2. I can compare those two, but I've not ridden the Ripmo V2.
While I loved the Ripmo, there was a distinct difference in the front end feel of the two. The Hightower is so stiff and solid, that it was perceivably more solid and tracked better in the rough chunk and big hits. The Ripmo MAYBE had a slight edge in pedaling efficiency, but it was a negligible difference. Both climb incredible well.
Again, this was a V1 Ripmo, and I'm not sure how much the frame's stiffness might have changed between generations, if it did change.
Hard to go wrong either way though, both Ibis and Santa Cruz are incredible companies.
Don't go for the alloy one though. My rear triangle got a crack in it after owning it since june.
I'm really sorry to hear that Willem. Was it a warranty scenario or a crash situation? Hopefully SC made it right! You don't see many broken SC frames out there.
is it possible to order a different colour. The last two years were great this one not so
Not from SC, but there are custom paint outfits that SC certifies that can give you options while still maintaining the warranty. Of course the issue there is cost and time, making it not an easy option.
@@SemiSendy thanks do u think SC would do a respray before sending them?
It’s really annoying as this is just not my colour. Is it possible to order the 2020 version was there a major upgrade in 2021
Probably a bit daft to get an older model cos the color is better but through
I was laughing my tits off the start of the review 😂 thanks for the review! I’m looking for buying a Hightower CC frame and build the bike myself. Would you recommend a 150 or 160mm fork? Aswell the linkage, is it a must?
Hey A.W.M, good questions for sure, and it really depends on your personal riding style and terrain, honestly. If you're more in the camp of "long, low and slack" design preferences, I'd say 160mm and CC link 100%. If you prefer a bit more slow speed responsiveness for tight twisty single track, then you may wan to consider 150mm and stock link in the "HI" position.
If you aren't sure, you could try the 150mm/HI set up first, if you end up preferring the LO position, you can swap the air spring to 160mm (assuming it's an option on said fork you pick) and pick up the CC link.
I did find the LO position with a 150mm fork was really prone to pedal strikes. The CC link does drop the BB 2.5mm more. The 160mm fork set up helps to bring that back in balance, as well as the overall feel in general with the CC link.
I'm totally in the middle of this decision right now. I sold my 2016 Intense Tracer, and now looking at all the new bikes, SO many choices!! I was leaning towards and induro, but your review was about to win me over till you talked about the coil shock rubbing the inner frame. I'm a major coil guy so DANG!! Do you think that'll become a potential "breakage issue"? Subbing to my fellow TH-camr AND Instagrammer! 👍🏻👌🏻
Hey Ricky, the frame integrity seems to still be fine, but honestly it's something that always weighs on me in the back of my mind. Only when I'm off the bike though, too much fun being had while I'm riding to worry about it, haha!
If the Enduro is on your list, I would say consider the Megatower, which has the coil clearance and same ability to run a Cascade Link. That said, my buddy recently picked up the new CC link for his Enduro, and it's really unlocked that bikes potential as well.
@@SemiSendy Yeah, I was trying to talk myself out of the enduro circle, but I think I'm heading back that way. Looking into the Gnarvanna now.
Vs Pivot Switchblade?
Good question, I've not ridden the Switchblade yet. Just haven't had the opportunity.
167 rides between March and December 2020? That's a lot!
Covid. A silver lining in an otherwise terrible year for us all.
What would you say about bronson cc
It's the 27.5 brother to the HT. It really boils down to personal preference on wheel size/characteristics. It's a bit less of a charger, but more playful! If I didn't prefer 29ers, I'd have a Bronson for sure.
@@SemiSendy thx im thinking of a custom bronson
What fork travel you have got?
160mm
@@SemiSendy thx for answer. So basically what is the difference between HT with cascade link and 160mm fork travel and basic MT?
Sick karate moves bro!
Judy chops, bro! I learned everything I know from movies.
@@SemiSendy that’s the best way to learn! Chuck Norris, watch out!
I’m practically a virtual black belt🥋
He said rub the tunnel ! 😆