Crystal Conflict PvP TIER LIST 6.3 FF14 Endwalker
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ต.ค. 2024
- We got the 6.3 updates for PvP so let's go over them and see what that means for our Crystalline Conflict tier list.
Do you agree with the list above? Think I missed something? Are tank mains human garbage that should switch to another game? Let me know below!
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NOT my favorite PvP class in crystal conflict being alone in troll tier lol
D is for desperatlyhopingthewholeteamstandstogetherontheobjectivewhileIusemyabilitiesohnoisthataninja?
@@fooddoodgames yeah pretty much that! xD
And to think RPR got, what feels like, a nerf in 6.4. We had some single target damage capabilities if we did the buff-chain right. But that's gone now, just got an AOE... The 20-15 sec for Soul Slice is like... Okay? RIP RPR.
6.4 was such a weird patch that I'm still in a stupor from the patch notes. DRG buffs? BRD nerfs? Me no understand...
You can read their explanation for the changes at na.finalfantasyxiv.com/jobguide/pvp/#pvpaction but I disagree that they don't really need a change where they get more AOE damage in. The other melee physical classes have insane burst and great ways to engage and disengage. All of that the RPR doesn't really have and instead is given durability. Not really sure how to fix RPR at this point to be honest though.
I played a ton of CC in 6.0 and 6.1 but none at all in 6.2 (accidentally became a Frontline main again), so this was a really nice way to catch up on the current meta and what I've missed. I played my first few matches of CC yesterday after only playing FL for several months and had so much fun on Bard. It's been my main in Frontline, and I was shocked how good it still felt in CC after all this time. Would totally love to see a Frontline tier list too if you want to do one!
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Jokes aside I'm actually compiling some clips together for the 6.3 frontline tier list and learning how to use some video editing software so the next tier list will be significantly improved in quality...
Unless we have new PvP updates today in 6.31 and then I scream.
What do you think of the new PvP updates and the current metagame? What changes would you make to my list?
As a primarily Frontline player (lol) this was very helpful to start thinking about playing more CC. Thanks for making it.
Thanks I appreciate it! I'm working on a video for frontline right now and hopefully it will be out soon. It's the first video I've compiled actual videos of me playing the classes.
I have seen good Dancers, but if we are being honest whenever I see it in CC my first thought is that player wants a challenge.
Yeah same. I think a lot of people try them out and then move onto a different main due to the learning curve vs reward.
Interesting that your comments on dancer are so focused on what they personally do. I always saw the main benefit as the huge buff you give to your dance partner and setting them up with your ult. A dragoon plus dancer combo is so scary
You're right where I tend to focus more on what the character does by itself rather than with allies. One of the main criticisms I have made about PLD is guardian is a death sentence on the wrong ally at worst and a movement ability more often than not. The reason I tend to focus this way is similar to the PLD ability where the chaos of the fight dictates the outcome quite often and talking about the direct abilities to me makes more sense.
DNC DRG combo is rizz though not gonna lie.
Not sure why people seem to be putting down on Dancer. It’s not a hard class to understand, and if the enemy team is grouped up it will pump high damage on a group easily. Dancer definitely isn’t my main in PvP but in an average 5-7 minute game I can put out over 700k damage. Plus what it’s buffs provide to itself and it’s partner are pretty huge, especially if you give those bonuses to a BLM, Dragoon, or even a Warrior to up its sustain.
The video is meant to take a look at how someone walking into PvP would feel about learning these these classes and how you can gain with the same baseline of mechanical knowledge. There are mega damage DNCs like you in high rank just like say a DRG but the raw power of a DRG right now going toe-to-toe with any other class is quite one sided.
@@fooddoodgames Definitely a much more fair way to put it, appreciate the clarification. I liked the video all the same, I just found it weird seeing how I saw a couple of other tier lists out of curiosity to see how other people might place classes and always saw Dancer near the bottom of them.
None of the classes are really unplayable right now but the community generally recognizes that the some classes have a lower learning curve and can punch with more power vs some take a longer time to learn and are more niche.
Right now NIN and DRG can merc backline by themselves so they are naturally going to be at the top because the metagame is getting a pick to make it 5v4 as soon as possible. That also means healers are high up because they're the only ones that can stop the pick from happening. If the meta for CC changes then DNC can make a comeback but they've also had a the lowest win rate back in 6.2 which was around 43% I think where the highest was around 54% as SCH which got nerfed since.
May I ask where you rank in CC? Interesting to see different views on the classes but before I compare this with some other tierlist I would like to know where you usually play on
I dont know how I'm climbing with these non S tier classes, but okay. I honestly need to reach diamond, because I don't know how classes are at a very high level. While I can agree with this tier list it does leave some salt in my mouth which I am using to push up the ladder to see why things are the way they are, especially with majority of tier list putting dancer as the worse class possible to play.
Summoner, has pressure. Not constant pressure like red and black mage, but overall decent. Then there's the 46k bomb from the LB burst and another 30k to any person under half hp...there's a reason I favor DRGs when using the class lol
Sam is questionable. I personally get more value with Chiten if I'm personally being targetted the moment my target is stunned I essentially wasted my ability for no reason. Then there's the LB itself....I had to become inventive w ok th this one. If the other team has no buffs to them I will use the LB to initiate on a backline before finishing them off. Either their entire health bar goes or their entire mana. Either way, I treat it like an assassin class the moment I have the LB up. No sense of having it up for one game just to look for the one hit ko. I would look for targets that's under half hp with guard up, but I'm not sure if there's still a bug regarding the LB and Guard interaction.
I'll continue to shake my head at the entire community, both casual and competitive, when it comes to dancer. It is the current class that I'm climbing with, and I can even feel the bias from the enemy team as I followed up with my melee just to be targetted off the back for being viewed as a weak link. Some people on the forums expressed that they would play it if the range was increased on its basic attacks and abilities not even realizing how good they have it with Homing Dance alone. To me they're just a slightly better of samurai. Only problem is that they're healy reliant on team in terms of survival and positioning. I'll stop there, because I can potentially rant on about dancer and the untapped potential that majority are not seeing.
Again, 100% agree on the tier list. Just salty with the dancer views. They been getting this sort of treatment since 6.1.
Not saying you can't rank with dancer, just that it is harder to get into with a significantly raised skill ceiling. Right now the meta is all about focusing down a single target and when you can not rely on your team mates to nail mechanics it seems to be better to go DRG/NIN to at least make sure you get your side of the damage in.
You are a little off in your ranks. Specifically, Sage is not a healer for a group, they are usually healing themselves. What that means in practical terms is that they are way better with a 2nd healer than being a solo healer on a team. I think you are under rating Warrior but I guess that depends on where you are drawing the line. As far the healer meta goes, it is basically defined by WHM. I am probably in the minority that doesn't think WHM is overpowered, more that the other healers need some buffs. One of things I think you should call out more is the difference between AoE DPS and Single target. Because Summoner AoE can be stupid hard burst like you are fine and then bam, your whole team is dead it sneaks up on people. Dragoon jumps in the air, Samurai does their stance, but with Summoner you better hope you aren't on the Fire Bomb stage.
Kardia disagrees. Or are you talking about AoE heals? If so, the AST is your pick because they are rizz.
WAR is good but simply outclassed by both the simplicity and power of PLD and DRK right now. I honestly think DRK may need some more nerfs because salted earth is salty AF.
Okay, so I use to think WHM was not overpowered. Then they got buffs in 6.2x and still thought they were meh. Then I started noticing they were getting reeealy high deeps with their new burst rotation and my mind has changed.
Summoner AoE is the best. Their limit break is the lowest risk highest damage dunk you can do on an objective the issue is that you require the enemy team to sit on the AoE and get dunked on... over and over again. They will always be the target of a DRK and NIN and compared to other DPS are not nearly as good at defensives and CC - looking at you BLM mains.
@@fooddoodgames So I see Sage usually putting Kardia on themselves. PLD is fine if you don't kill yourself. DRK is so one note that half of the time they are usually the last one standing after the rest of their team is dead. I use to think RDM was the best spell caster... And they are amazing in duels. But what I have found is that I switch jobs based on the current location. The biggest issue I have with Summoner is a lack of movement options as I find that is the thing holding them back. So WHM damage is good, but their biggest thing is that if an opponent is hurt then they can guarantee the kill and the start up on their LB is instantaneous which means a WHM with a LB is a combat shotgun looking for a target rich line. In fact, on the Air Stage I would rate WHM as S+. Hitting a LB on a falling target or forcing a fall using their polymorph is brutal.
give me frontline videos
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