There's no falling into place, there's heavy retraction with power chains. I got TMJ, sleep apnea and a sucken face from this procedure. Ortho's love it though it makes their job easier and they may get a kick back from an oral surgeon. I did an entire documentary on reversing this process on here if you are interested.
Sorry for your trouble but I am glad you are doing something about it. I had a host of problems from bad orthodontics many years ago and am expanding (at 50!) With the DNA appliance. Saved my life
@@alisonbecker9833 Trash dental school education is doing this to honest consumers. You should never remove teeth. You should encourage growth through the aid of expansion when the children are still growing. They are essentially discouraging growth and treating us all like bonsai trees. The ortho establishment got sued in the 80s for the damage extraction retraction orthodontics did to a woman who developed severe tmj issues post ortho treatment. She won her case. The ortho establishment then spent the next decade fabricating research to show that traditional extraction retraction treatment didn't cause damage. Now it's very difficult to sue and prove this damage. They will never admit to the harm their treatments are doing to millions of people. Too much money to be made off our suffering. If we can educate enough people, we can tip the tide of this gross negligence and malpractice.
Omg me too !! My jaw hurts so much day and night ! I can’t sleep unless I put a pillow by my jaw cuz that’s how much it hurts, also my face looks so ugly now
@@Myworlddd111 they extracted 8 teeth due to overcrowding but now I’m suffering from jaw pain and my teeth are pushed way too back. Narrow smile, sunken face, gummy smile, no jaw line. Sadly I looked better before with crooked teeth
@@magdalenaabarca8786 which teeth? I had 6 teeth extracted. It's 3 premolar , 2 wisdom teeth, and 1 broken root molar. My case is gummy smile, protruding, and convex face. I will use 4 miniscrew (TADs)
We have great success with expanders and myofunctional therapy followed by braces. The issue is you are only focused on straightening the teeth and there are many other things that happen in the mouth such as eating, biting, swallowing and facial expression. You need to expand your treatment goals. No amount of moving furniture around is going to work when the room is not large enough for the furniture. You need to make the room bigger first.
You got me on the first half; I want to align my teeth and see what I look like with out taking them out. My first orthodontist said my face would look different in the long run; therefore, I shouldn’t and he would not take out my back teeth. Sadly, he left after he put on my braces. Now, only having my braces in for a month, a new orthodontist comes in and says we needs to take out four teeth. He even stated that if I don’t take out my four teeth, he is taking out my braces and I have to go to another orthodontist. I’m 25, and it just makes no sense how one orthodontist didn’t mind my back teeth and actually said that he doesn’t want to extract, and this one does. I feel so unknowledgeable on this topic and you don’t know who to trust, and everyone has a different opinion.
brooo that sucks. i feel you i need all the first 4 premolars taken out right now and after hearing this im worried at the end its gonna look bad and theres no going back you know? Im supposed to trust these professionals since i have no clue on any of this its the worst feeling.
I had 2 upper premolars removed for crowding and overjet. I still have all my wisdom teeth too so I dont see how if i had kept them, i would have had room for corrections and straightening
Ive seen a lot of comments complaining about teeth extraction, but I just got 2 of my unhealthy top teeth (molar) extracted for braces, here is the thing, those theeth were in the worst condition possible they were rotten and broken and im glad they got extracted, my teeth are crowded and it makes sence that they got extracted , all my dentist have told me that I have a small mouth and big teeth, so I don't think it all makes sense, im going to get 2 of my bottom teeth extracted as well before get braces on my bottom teeth, which are also unhealthy... One of my friends has flared teeth after 5.5 years of braces (which i now realise is because she didn't get her teeth extracted) and i don't want that, also the unhealthy teeth were causing a lot of problems for me, so im glad I'm getting my teeth extracted
Hi, what will happen if i don't want to have 4 healathy teeth extracted(two 4ths on top and bottom), and i would remove only on the right side(one top and one bottom on the right side)? I heared about Tom Cruise middle teeth, is it possible to be like that?
Good morning Dr. Nate, my daughter Needed braces and recommended to have four teeth extracted. She had two teeth removed and she ended up with her upper mouth bruised and it hurts her more than the extraction. Would you please advise why that happened and have you ever came across with your patients? Thank you
Your daughters teeth were amputated. Your teeth are not just floating in your jaw. They are connected to the body like everything else. They have their own blood supply and nerve connection. If you had your perfectly healthy finger amputated, wouldn't your hand be bruised and hurt like hell for a while? The ortho should have recommended expansion to keep the teeth and still be able to straighten them after.
@@glenwoodfore You are so correct and thank you for having the courage to share this harsh reality. Shouldn't retraction/extraction orthodontia be viewed as malpractice in this day and age?
Three reasons why you take out teeth: 1. Laziness. 2. A quick fix. 3. You haven't been trained on expansion. You didn't create sufficient room for all the teeth. Instead of focusing on a long expansion process, you did the quick fix and amputated healthy teeth. You also tipped teeth, without creating proper space, and a flared smile is your result. Be sure not to go to this guy, because he's clearly lacking in proper training. Your body is designed to have all your teeth properly fit in your mouth. More importantly, you should have clear room for your tongue to lay on the roof of your mouth. The fact that you don't mention tongue space in your video clearly demonstrates a lack of knowledge. You also didn't mention airway. Extraction retraction orthodontics pushes the jaws backward into the airway. A pinched airway leads to lifelong issues including: sleep apnea, restlessness, brain fog, lack on energy, moodiness, pain, forward head tilt, mouth-breathing, etc. If you are a young person watching this video, do not have an orthodontist pull teeth. Doing so leads to asymmetry, unbalanced bite, resorption of the aveolar ridge, bad oral hygiene. Do yourself a favor and find an orthodontist that specializes in expansion techniques, and limits tooth extractions. You want a full mouth with all your teeth (yes, including wisdom). Your older self with thank you.
“Your body is designed to have all your teeth properly fit in your mouth”. Yes, but have you heard about evolution? That our eating habit had changed our jaw structure?
I have to get 4 teeth removed at once cause if braces I wish they were never invented they are not straightening my teeth at all it’s been a year and they have gaps still big ones
For me.. it took two years. The gaps will close faster.. but my teeth were misaligned for about two years but everyone’s bone density is different so it also depends on that. I got my braces on Sept ‘19, 4 teeth were extracted in Oct or Nov of ‘19 and my braces are set to come off this Dec. you can’t tell teeth were removed.
@@nequaknighten425 do you feel like it changes your face structure? And when you had your teeth removed do they wait for them to heal to put braces on?
@@mizcolombiana890 Hey! My face changed slightly. My braces were on before I got my teeth pulled, but they didn’t put brackets on the teeth that were getting removed. The only downside about getting teeth removed for me, was the they pulled my teeth back if that make sense. So it’s not as big of a smile as I would’ve liked. But if I didn’t get them pulled, my teeth would’ve been flared out, but straight, like Issa Rae’s and I don’t like that.
Mistake was having teeth removed in first place. You don't have a Dr but a 'teeth beautician'. Straighten teeth to make people happy no matter what lifetime damage may be caused to the victims.
I am 22 years old after 3 months i will turn 23. when i was at the age of 17 or something my teeth starting to face pariya and start to have some gum problems also like bleeding gums and bad breathing . My teeth structure are also not in good shape . 7-8 months back i visit the dentist and he said my teeth need to be cleaned properly because of it's yellowish and i have to put braces in single day he cleaned my teeth two times and called me again after 1 week to deep clean and then i did a x ray and went to braces department now they are saying that before putting braces they need to extract at least 4 tooth as i don't have any spaces in my teeth's currently they have fitted spacers in my tooth. when they sad they will extract teeth at first i got scared and worried as after 20 i will not grow any teeth and 4 are a bit much and if my cheeks area will become bad in future then what will i do. But then i got relief by knowing they are professional and if they are saying after planning so it must be no harm . But my parents are too stressed they are fully denying , they are telling to put braces without extracting any teeth as it may create any problem in future and as they are saying to extract the side teeth's so my parents are worrying if i would not be able to chew and eat. I am confuse what to do
I had my upper premolars extracted and when I was 18 to meet up with my underdeveloped lower jaw. At 36 my face looks sunken in and I have a severe deep bite. I asked an oral surgeon who agrees to move my lower jaw forward but the orthodontists say it’s not a good idea as I’m missing teeth and there won’t be good occlusion 😢
Thanks for the explainnation, doc. I got 4 teeth extracted. My orthodontist told me I had to but didn't tell me why. For more than half year I regreted the decision because ectracted teeth can never be back. But after watching you video I understand that in some cases extraction can not be avoided. I feel much better now. Thank you! :)
Don't believe everything they say just because they "Dr". There is a reason you had malocclusion, try diving deeper. Extraction just makes existing problems take on the status quo, or worsen it.
I’m 41 and had 4 adult removed to “make room.” I didn’t have a choice and regret it. There are serious issues caused by this that most dentists and orthodontists DO NOT TALK about. This can include sleep apnea, chronic sinusitis, snoring, and other breathing issues. Children’s jaws/face are malleable and can move and grow. I am no a Dr so I can’t give medical advice but I would HIGHLY recommend getting another opinion and NEVER remove teeth with the exception of wisdom teeth. My opinion is felt by hundreds that I have read online. Good luck!
Don't suppose you've gotten Braces yet? Have you? If not, then you should probably seek a 2nd opinion, or multiple opinions, I Once saw on a British clinic's site of a girl who was Treat NON-EXTRACTION with DAMON BRACES, in apparently under a year. It mentioned that she was initially going to get Braces under the UK NHS ("Health Service") but that an NHS Orthocuntist insisted that she have 4 teeth Taken out, even though it wasn't necessary, and not only that, but the "NHS Extraction-Plan" was estimated to take nearly 2 years to complete.... Removing Teeth for Braces, known as "Extraction/Retraction", has been known to cause various adverse issues in terms of Smile/Facial Aesthetics, Function and Health.
Dr Nate my son is 17 and they are recommending take 4 out due to crowding but I feel it will change his jaw since he’s a guy and look smaller. My daughter got Damon braces and no teeth removed but he is getting traditional braces. What do you suggest?
You do not take out teeth. Damon braces are a $$marketing gimmick btw. Be an informed parent, do your research of what extractions do, especially later in life. And check the side profiles of patients too. Retraction pulls face back. Retaining them can stunt natural skull growth
@@alisonbecker9833 can you elaborate on why Damon Braces are a gimmick. My daughter got them and no teeth were needed to be pulled with them even with her crowding. She did get her wisdom teeth out but she has about 6 months left before they remove the Damon braces
Damon braces work great, just like regular braces. They are slightly smaller, but that is about it. Claims that they make your smile wider than conventional has been disproven. BIG MARKETING and $$pusb$$ for orthodontists to upsell. Your daughter will be even more beautiful! Just your checkbook suffered a little is all. Water under the bridge, but there is further research if you want to look it up.
I have severe crowding on both the jaws, I was told that 4 premolars (upper left, right and lower left, right) would be removed. I am quite concerned about the arch, would it shrink? I've read cases where the arches have shrunk and its hard to keep the tongue inside and that leading to apnea and other complications. Does the arc remain same, or does it shrink?
i have the same problem too :( honestly for my lower jaw i need 2 premolars removed which is the last option but for upper jaw i have the same worried as u, tmj problems and less tongue space . .. im going to ask my orthodontist once again when i go back if thats rly the last option for me
Don't let them pull your teeth. See a full face orthodontist that will expand to make room for your teeth. Takes more time and $, cuts into profits ya know.
Hi Dr My son is 13 years old, he had underbite and wore the headgear for 3-5 months, then it become overbite. Now the orthodontist said he look overbite so said he needs to take 2 upper teeth and 2 lower teeth. I have questions 1. Did the orthodontist have him wear too long that the upper pushed out too much causing overbite now? I’m so mad because of this. 2. Will rubber band fix the overbite since I don’t want him pull the teeth? 3.Why does he need to pull out 4 teeth instead of just 2 upper teeth if overbite. 4. Should I get another opinion about other ways to fix the overbite? Thank you
Don't let him .mutilate your kid. Wants to stunt his growth and shrink his face? See a face focused non-butcher. Be careful, professional courtesy may prevent them from disputing this abuse.
@@ThriveDentist we went to another orthodontist and said he would recommend pull teeth too but it’s up to us if we don’t mind the look, it’s ok too. I decided not to have him pull his teeth.
@@jennyd5728 Good mother. Don't pull teeth and get him out of headgear. The headgear is only causing damage. It presses the jaws backward into the airway. Pre and post scans can confirm this. Don't make his airway and mouth smaller. No extractions and no retraction of the teeth and jaws. Doing so will result in sleep apnea, brain fog, restlessness, forward head posture (the body tries to compensate for a pinched airway by tilting forward to open it), pain, and those are just a few examples. Expand the mouth so that there is proper tongue space. Keep all the teeth and move the jaws forward into occlusion with each other. Find yourself a ortho who specializes in expansion (dna, schwartz, mse, rpe, sarpe, ease, etc.). Nature did not design your son incorrectly. Its is our environment that it causing dental crowding (soft food diet, mouth breathing, improper swallowing, etc). It wouldn't hurt to have him looked at by a myofunctional therapist to make sure his swallowing and tongue muscle are in top shape. He needs to be able to lay his tongue flat on the roof of his mouth if he isn't eating or talking. If he can't because there isn't room to do so, you know he needs expansion. Someone his age should have a 40-45mm wide palate/maxilla. Anything under that, and he doesn't have proper space. Best of luck.
Teeth extraction for braces make less space to tongue and breathing problem
But you breathe through your nose
I got 2 upper molar removed for overjet .
how did your face change?
@@VinyZikss now my bra ee is removed teeth moved in position, no overjet and it's worth it .face looks better ofcourse
My dentist removed my teeth and i regret it 😞
I know the feeling mine pulled out one of my teeth but on the top 😢
Awesome job simplifying concepts that can be tricky to understand. Enjoying the channel.
Glad you enjoy it!
Just don't let them pull your teeth
Perfect explanation...thanks!
There's no falling into place, there's heavy retraction with power chains. I got TMJ, sleep apnea and a sucken face from this procedure. Ortho's love it though it makes their job easier and they may get a kick back from an oral surgeon. I did an entire documentary on reversing this process on here if you are interested.
I'm sorry to hear that :( this is what I'm afraid of...is there any other solution?
Sorry for your trouble but I am glad you are doing something about it. I had a host of problems from bad orthodontics many years ago and am expanding (at 50!) With the DNA appliance. Saved my life
@@alisonbecker9833 Trash dental school education is doing this to honest consumers. You should never remove teeth. You should encourage growth through the aid of expansion when the children are still growing. They are essentially discouraging growth and treating us all like bonsai trees. The ortho establishment got sued in the 80s for the damage extraction retraction orthodontics did to a woman who developed severe tmj issues post ortho treatment. She won her case. The ortho establishment then spent the next decade fabricating research to show that traditional extraction retraction treatment didn't cause damage. Now it's very difficult to sue and prove this damage. They will never admit to the harm their treatments are doing to millions of people. Too much money to be made off our suffering. If we can educate enough people, we can tip the tide of this gross negligence and malpractice.
I'm in the same situation... Extractions are brutal
Omg me too !! My jaw hurts so much day and night ! I can’t sleep unless I put a pillow by my jaw cuz that’s how much it hurts, also my face looks so ugly now
omg all these cimments are scaring me , too bad this youtuber doesnt reply to any comments .
Same. I just extracted my 4 teeth
@@Myworlddd111 bad choice it really ruined me
@@magdalenaabarca8786 what is your case? Protruding face or not?
@@Myworlddd111 they extracted 8 teeth due to overcrowding but now I’m suffering from jaw pain and my teeth are pushed way too back. Narrow smile, sunken face, gummy smile, no jaw line. Sadly I looked better before with crooked teeth
@@magdalenaabarca8786 which teeth? I had 6 teeth extracted. It's 3 premolar , 2 wisdom teeth, and 1 broken root molar. My case is gummy smile, protruding, and convex face. I will use 4 miniscrew (TADs)
We have great success with expanders and myofunctional therapy followed by braces. The issue is you are only focused on straightening the teeth and there are many other things that happen in the mouth such as eating, biting, swallowing and facial expression. You need to expand your treatment goals. No amount of moving furniture around is going to work when the room is not large enough for the furniture. You need to make the room bigger first.
You got me on the first half; I want to align my teeth and see what I look like with out taking them out. My first orthodontist said my face would look different in the long run; therefore, I shouldn’t and he would not take out my back teeth. Sadly, he left after he put on my braces. Now, only having my braces in for a month, a new orthodontist comes in and says we needs to take out four teeth. He even stated that if I don’t take out my four teeth, he is taking out my braces and I have to go to another orthodontist. I’m 25, and it just makes no sense how one orthodontist didn’t mind my back teeth and actually said that he doesn’t want to extract, and this one does. I feel so unknowledgeable on this topic and you don’t know who to trust, and everyone has a different opinion.
brooo that sucks. i feel you i need all the first 4 premolars taken out right now and after hearing this im worried at the end its gonna look bad and theres no going back you know? Im supposed to trust these professionals since i have no clue on any of this its the worst feeling.
Get a second opinion
@@andrew61106 get implants asap or your profile will become flat and unaesthetic.
Respect your first ortho was honest man. Don’t remove teeth. Just don’t do it it will ruin you
@@youtubecommentsguy9805 Nah. First ortho is lying.
I had 2 upper premolars removed for crowding and overjet. I still have all my wisdom teeth too so I dont see how if i had kept them, i would have had room for corrections and straightening
How is your progress so far?
Any update? 🫣
All these worried comments and not a single reply from them, kind of annoying
Ive seen a lot of comments complaining about teeth extraction, but I just got 2 of my unhealthy top teeth (molar) extracted for braces, here is the thing, those theeth were in the worst condition possible they were rotten and broken and im glad they got extracted, my teeth are crowded and it makes sence that they got extracted , all my dentist have told me that I have a small mouth and big teeth, so I don't think it all makes sense, im going to get 2 of my bottom teeth extracted as well before get braces on my bottom teeth, which are also unhealthy... One of my friends has flared teeth after 5.5 years of braces (which i now realise is because she didn't get her teeth extracted) and i don't want that, also the unhealthy teeth were causing a lot of problems for me, so im glad I'm getting my teeth extracted
How's it going now? Have you faced any side effects?
But why 4 teeth when just the upper jaw is overcrowded??
This is helpful as my daughter will be getting 4premolars taken out due to severe overcrowding, protruding top lip for orthodontic treatment
How has her experience been thus far? Did it change her face shape?
U are so confident on camera
Hi, what will happen if i don't want to have 4 healathy teeth extracted(two 4ths on top and bottom), and i would remove only on the right side(one top and one bottom on the right side)?
I heared about Tom Cruise middle teeth, is it possible to be like that?
Great details and benefits to learn about!
-Caleb McGrath
dude, you don't have to sign a youtube comment 😅😅
Explain one orthodontist, wants me to take my wisdom teeth out, but do not bother me. They’re clean no cavities for healthy teeth.
Good morning Dr. Nate, my daughter Needed braces and recommended to have four teeth extracted. She had two teeth removed and she ended up with her upper mouth bruised and it hurts her more than the extraction. Would you please advise why that happened and have you ever came across with your patients? Thank you
Wait til she finds out she won't be as pretty with a shrunken face, if not now, later....
Your daughters teeth were amputated. Your teeth are not just floating in your jaw. They are connected to the body like everything else. They have their own blood supply and nerve connection. If you had your perfectly healthy finger amputated, wouldn't your hand be bruised and hurt like hell for a while? The ortho should have recommended expansion to keep the teeth and still be able to straighten them after.
@@glenwoodfore You are so correct and thank you for having the courage to share this harsh reality. Shouldn't retraction/extraction orthodontia be viewed as malpractice in this day and age?
Three reasons why you take out teeth: 1. Laziness. 2. A quick fix. 3. You haven't been trained on expansion.
You didn't create sufficient room for all the teeth. Instead of focusing on a long expansion process, you did the quick fix and amputated healthy teeth. You also tipped teeth, without creating proper space, and a flared smile is your result. Be sure not to go to this guy, because he's clearly lacking in proper training. Your body is designed to have all your teeth properly fit in your mouth. More importantly, you should have clear room for your tongue to lay on the roof of your mouth. The fact that you don't mention tongue space in your video clearly demonstrates a lack of knowledge. You also didn't mention airway. Extraction retraction orthodontics pushes the jaws backward into the airway. A pinched airway leads to lifelong issues including: sleep apnea, restlessness, brain fog, lack on energy, moodiness, pain, forward head tilt, mouth-breathing, etc. If you are a young person watching this video, do not have an orthodontist pull teeth. Doing so leads to asymmetry, unbalanced bite, resorption of the aveolar ridge, bad oral hygiene. Do yourself a favor and find an orthodontist that specializes in expansion techniques, and limits tooth extractions. You want a full mouth with all your teeth (yes, including wisdom). Your older self with thank you.
“Your body is designed to have all your teeth properly fit in your mouth”. Yes, but have you heard about evolution? That our eating habit had changed our jaw structure?
Expansion doesn't work on adults and you need sugery to expand your palate.
Your teeth are beautiful doctor!)
As he steals yours!!
yh all of these are the reasons for me
I have to get 4 teeth removed at once cause if braces I wish they were never invented they are not straightening my teeth at all it’s been a year and they have gaps still big ones
hey, how's it going now? how are you?
How long does it take for the top teeth to align back after teeths removed?
For me.. it took two years. The gaps will close faster.. but my teeth were misaligned for about two years but everyone’s bone density is different so it also depends on that. I got my braces on Sept ‘19, 4 teeth were extracted in Oct or Nov of ‘19 and my braces are set to come off this Dec. you can’t tell teeth were removed.
@@nequaknighten425 do you feel like it changes your face structure? And when you had your teeth removed do they wait for them to heal to put braces on?
@@mizcolombiana890 Hey! My face changed slightly. My braces were on before I got my teeth pulled, but they didn’t put brackets on the teeth that were getting removed. The only downside about getting teeth removed for me, was the they pulled my teeth back if that make sense. So it’s not as big of a smile as I would’ve liked. But if I didn’t get them pulled, my teeth would’ve been flared out, but straight, like Issa Rae’s and I don’t like that.
Mistake was having teeth removed in first place. You don't have a Dr but a 'teeth beautician'. Straighten teeth to make people happy no matter what lifetime damage may be caused to the victims.
I am 22 years old after 3 months i will turn 23. when i was at the age of 17 or something my teeth starting to face pariya and start to have some gum problems also like bleeding gums and bad breathing . My teeth structure are also not in good shape . 7-8 months back i visit the dentist and he said my teeth need to be cleaned properly because of it's yellowish and i have to put braces in single day he cleaned my teeth two times and called me again after 1 week to deep clean and then i did a x ray and went to braces department now they are saying that before putting braces they need to extract at least 4 tooth as i don't have any spaces in my teeth's currently they have fitted spacers in my tooth. when they sad they will extract teeth at first i got scared and worried as after 20 i will not grow any teeth and 4 are a bit much and if my cheeks area will become bad in future then what will i do. But then i got relief by knowing they are professional and if they are saying after planning so it must be no harm . But my parents are too stressed they are fully denying , they are telling to put braces without extracting any teeth as it may create any problem in future and as they are saying to extract the side teeth's so my parents are worrying if i would not be able to chew and eat. I am confuse what to do
I am also facing the same issue
I need to remove 4 teeth
I had my upper premolars extracted and when I was 18 to meet up with my underdeveloped lower jaw. At 36 my face looks sunken in and I have a severe deep bite. I asked an oral surgeon who agrees to move my lower jaw forward but the orthodontists say it’s not a good idea as I’m missing teeth and there won’t be good occlusion 😢
See about a DNA appliance. Worked for me and I am 50!
@@alisonbecker9833 I don’t have narrow palate but bite retrusion. I’m afraid this wouldn’t solve my problems 😕
Thanks for the explainnation, doc. I got 4 teeth extracted. My orthodontist told me I had to but didn't tell me why. For more than half year I regreted the decision because ectracted teeth can never be back. But after watching you video I understand that in some cases extraction can not be avoided. I feel much better now. Thank you! :)
Don't believe everything they say just because they "Dr". There is a reason you had malocclusion, try diving deeper. Extraction just makes existing problems take on the status quo, or worsen it.
@@kat1whymy son is going to get 4 teeth removed for braces, in a few weeks. Are you saying it's a bad thing to get teeth removed for braces?
I’m 41 and had 4 adult removed to “make room.” I didn’t have a choice and regret it. There are serious issues caused by this that most dentists and orthodontists DO NOT TALK about. This can include sleep apnea, chronic sinusitis, snoring, and other breathing issues.
Children’s jaws/face are malleable and can move and grow. I am no a Dr so I can’t give medical advice but I would HIGHLY recommend getting another opinion and NEVER remove teeth with the exception of wisdom teeth.
My opinion is felt by hundreds that I have read online. Good luck!
@@ryant6134 thank you for your comment!!
So i need 4 teeth removed. How long do you wait to put on braves once teeth are removed? Typically how long do you need braces for?
Don't suppose you've gotten Braces yet? Have you?
If not, then you should probably seek a 2nd opinion, or multiple opinions,
I Once saw on a British clinic's site of a girl who was Treat
NON-EXTRACTION with DAMON BRACES, in apparently under a year.
It mentioned that she was initially going to get Braces under the UK NHS ("Health Service") but that an NHS Orthocuntist insisted that she have 4 teeth Taken out, even though it wasn't necessary, and not only that, but the "NHS Extraction-Plan" was estimated to take nearly 2 years to complete....
Removing Teeth for Braces, known as "Extraction/Retraction", has been known to cause various adverse issues in terms of Smile/Facial Aesthetics, Function and Health.
Don't have teeth removed no matter what. See a true professional, not teeth beauticians.
@@alisonbecker9833 i didn't thank you! And he never once mentioned to have teeth removed. He said i didn't have to do that. I'm glad i didn't
Dr Nate my son is 17 and they are recommending take 4 out due to crowding but I feel it will change his jaw since he’s a guy and look smaller. My daughter got Damon braces and no teeth removed but he is getting traditional braces. What do you suggest?
What is Damon braces? I don’t like the idea of taking out teeth? My daughter will be getting braces later.
You do not take out teeth. Damon braces are a $$marketing gimmick btw. Be an informed parent, do your research of what extractions do, especially later in life. And check the side profiles of patients too. Retraction pulls face back. Retaining them can stunt natural skull growth
@@alisonbecker9833 can you elaborate on why Damon Braces are a gimmick. My daughter got them and no teeth were needed to be pulled with them even with her crowding. She did get her wisdom teeth out but she has about 6 months left before they remove the Damon braces
Damon braces work great, just like regular braces. They are slightly smaller, but that is about it. Claims that they make your smile wider than conventional has been disproven. BIG MARKETING and $$pusb$$ for orthodontists to upsell. Your daughter will be even more beautiful! Just your checkbook suffered a little is all. Water under the bridge, but there is further research if you want to look it up.
I have severe crowding on both the jaws, I was told that 4 premolars (upper left, right and lower left, right) would be removed. I am quite concerned about the arch, would it shrink? I've read cases where the arches have shrunk and its hard to keep the tongue inside and that leading to apnea and other complications. Does the arc remain same, or does it shrink?
i have the same problem too :( honestly for my lower jaw i need 2 premolars removed which is the last option but for upper jaw i have the same worried as u, tmj problems and less tongue space . .. im going to ask my orthodontist once again when i go back if thats rly the last option for me
@@sssushang I really do hope it works out for you with minimum number of extractions.
Don't let them pull your teeth. See a full face orthodontist that will expand to make room for your teeth. Takes more time and $, cuts into profits ya know.
My teeth looks good people can’t really tel I have a over bite but they still want me to remove 4 teeth
@@zxth if there's no functional issue, don't go for extractions.
Hi Dr
My son is 13 years old, he had underbite and wore the headgear for 3-5 months, then it become overbite. Now the orthodontist said he look overbite so said he needs to take 2 upper teeth and 2 lower teeth.
I have questions
1. Did the orthodontist have him wear too long that the upper pushed out too much causing overbite now? I’m so mad because of this.
2. Will rubber band fix the overbite since I don’t want him pull the teeth?
3.Why does he need to pull out 4 teeth instead of just 2 upper teeth if overbite.
4. Should I get another opinion about other ways to fix the overbite?
Thank you
Hmm. That's pretty unusual but each patient is unique. I may try to get a second opinion.
Don't let him .mutilate your kid. Wants to stunt his growth and shrink his face? See a face focused non-butcher. Be careful, professional courtesy may prevent them from disputing this abuse.
@@ThriveDentist we went to another orthodontist and said he would recommend pull teeth too but it’s up to us if we don’t mind the look, it’s ok too. I decided not to have him pull his teeth.
@@jennyd5728 Good mother. Don't pull teeth and get him out of headgear. The headgear is only causing damage. It presses the jaws backward into the airway. Pre and post scans can confirm this. Don't make his airway and mouth smaller. No extractions and no retraction of the teeth and jaws. Doing so will result in sleep apnea, brain fog, restlessness, forward head posture (the body tries to compensate for a pinched airway by tilting forward to open it), pain, and those are just a few examples. Expand the mouth so that there is proper tongue space. Keep all the teeth and move the jaws forward into occlusion with each other. Find yourself a ortho who specializes in expansion (dna, schwartz, mse, rpe, sarpe, ease, etc.). Nature did not design your son incorrectly. Its is our environment that it causing dental crowding (soft food diet, mouth breathing, improper swallowing, etc). It wouldn't hurt to have him looked at by a myofunctional therapist to make sure his swallowing and tongue muscle are in top shape. He needs to be able to lay his tongue flat on the roof of his mouth if he isn't eating or talking. If he can't because there isn't room to do so, you know he needs expansion. Someone his age should have a 40-45mm wide palate/maxilla. Anything under that, and he doesn't have proper space. Best of luck.
I removed 4 theeth extraction how mny days will be gaap closed
It can take from a few months to two years, depending
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