Post Office Horizon Inquiry LIVE: Baroness Neville-Rolfe gives evidence
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- Post Office Horizon IT Inquiry continues
Post Office Horizon IT inquiry to hear evidence from Baroness Neville-Rolfe. The inquiry will hear from the Cabinet Office minister who was previously Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Business, Innovation and Skills.
Credit: Post Office Horizon IT Inquiry
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I don't think we will ever see anyone in the law courts who was in the higher echelons of the Post Office. They will close ranks and their mates will see they are not brought before the courts. Some lower grade Civil Servant will have to take the blame.
we will if the public at large demand it, this is very different from any other public inquiry, everyone knows a Postmaster
One of the more believable people so far, but why do none of them know what’s going on? Civil servants seem to rule ..not the elected / employed (very well paid for showing up) people.
I cannot believe the huge amount of hangers on that we have to put up with. Shut the post office and sack the lot of them.
It is so insidiously despicable to constantly put out the line of the huge majority of the subpostmasters who are having no problems BUT perhaps they could have offered more training and support for these few cases. This clearly implies that these are people that are just just 'slow' and are clearly just not very bright and for these poor souls the wonderful mother Post Office is going to give them more help and 'remedial' training. "We should have been understanding that we might have some simpletons and we will help them". This thought makes me angry all over!!!
Sir Wynn's final remarks about finding the right people made my mind instantly jump to Sir John Harvey Jones. There aren't enough people of his calibre around
She can’t help but slip in at various times how busy she was with other duties. Wonder if these are moments in her testimony that are causing her concern.
Is it just me but evey time she looks up and speaks I see Lord Percy of Blackadder fame.
It might have been of great benefit if the minister had sat down early on with Ron Warmington for a face to face session rather than the civil service and procedures playing blocker along the way. ShEx performance seems outstandingly below average from the impression I've gained so far. One must ask if any of the mandarins involved are still in post or justice may yet prevail.
More evidence of a cover up by Vennells
Why do they all say bugs are inevitable - I have designed financial systems, work scheduling, production forecasting, payrolls, PPI compensation, library management, Cap-Ex controls, et al. Many have been text-book implementations, one was delayed to resolve a performance issue, and a few had bugs which were resolved within the first month. All were thoroughly tested by subjecting them to clean and dirty data ( emphasis on the latter) and included tests such as unplugging pc's while in the middle of updating a mainframe system 200 miles away. Never, ever had bugs unresolved for months, mostly days or at worst weeks when a bug caused by "A" had not affected "B" but caused program "C" to put a decimal point in the wrong place which was only noticed at month end. In every case the test data would have some "dirty data" added to ensure a repeat of the condition would be highlighted if ever the software was modified and so re-tested.
As an experienced developer myself I would slightly disagree with that. Developing a system that is 'bug' proof is extremely difficult. The problems arise not when handing normal situations, but rather the abnormal situations. If a system event happens which does not have an error handler, then errors will be the inevitable outcome. Moreover, its not the events that you know about that were the problem here, its the ones you don't know about.
It is not surprising that the vast majority of Horizon transactions were processed correctly, had they not, they would have had to be fixed very quickly. Its the few transactions (and given the volumes of transactions processed an error rate of 0.01% would still amount to thousands of errors per week) that caused the problem. POL had no incentive to attend to these, they had a convenient amendment to the PCE Act in the early 2000's that said that computer produced reports can be presumed as true, plus an absurd 'agreement' with the SPM's that they were liable for any losses, however caused.
And to add insult to injury the SPM's own union was in bed with POL, siding with POL instead of their 'mumbers' which was then highlighted by management as evidence that even the SPM's union agrees that the system was infallible.
The whole thing is DISGUSTING, I have seldom been so angered at such a structural effort to pervert justice and make criminals out of innocent people.
And there is the naivety that prevades this sorry story. misplaced confidence in the system.
Another incessant talker wasting time