It's gone from "Liverpool players are overrated, it's just Klopp keeping them together" to "Klopp left a fantastic team and Slot is just carrying on what he left behind". Talk about fickle.
People are like that. It went from "Klopp is the most important person at Liverpool" to "Klopp was holding the team back and he needed to go" Everything is temporary
The difference between Klopp leaving in 2024, to Ferguson leaving in 2013. Is Klopp left a good side for Slot, while Ferguson left an ageing and average side for Moyes. That’s the difference.
klopp FAILED in his last season with that good side, while ferguson WON THE PL with that average side. 1 PL in 9 years and slot will match that in just 1 year. some uncomfortable conversations will be had about how overrated klopp and how he much he underperformed.
@@NuMetalfan1996 lol remove pep's city and klopp will still finish second below arteta's arsenal in klopp's last season. with the same squad slot is now on course to win the PL. even so, liverpool was not even 2nd consistently, they even couldn't consistently qualify for the champions league finishing 5th in 2022-23... behind ole's united in 2020-21. sure keep overrating that bottler jurgen FLOPP
@@NandoFIT-df8ly How did Kopp underperform?. Klopp was appointed when Liverpool were struggling outside of top 4. Klopp was appointed to get Liverpool back to winning trophies, and won everything there was to win at Liverpool, minus the Europe League which is no loss at all, who really cares about that one. Yes he could’ve won more, but Pep’s Man City seem to always find a way, put Pep’s Man City in Ferguson’s era and Ferguson wouldn’t have won as much. Also it’s harder to win the Title now than it was back then. Klopp didn’t underperform, far from it.
Respect to Klopp for wearing his heart on his sleeve to recognise when to call time on his career with Liverpool. Klopp took us all on a journey from when he came to us to the heights we got to. Arne has inherited a mad squad and I hope he does us proud. YNWA ❤
I don't understand these comments suggesting that if Slot wins the league this season, it somehow makes him better than Klopp, or that it somehow diminishes Klopp's legacy. I've seen this narrative a few times and it's just mad. We don't look at Shankly and say "well yeah but Paisley won more".
I love klopp,but we did lose 3 European finals and the league by 1 point..Great manager but probably should have won atleast 1 more league and CL tbh...his achilles heel was low block teams..if slot can help us to beat those teams we probably will win the league
@@courtneygardner64 missing out on the league by 1 point to a team facing 115 ffp charges is a little irrelevant tbh. I don't deny that for how good the team is/was, they could and maybe should have won more, but Klopp rebuilt Liverpool from the shadow they were of their former selves. I just think that Slots job, no matter how well he does, has only been made possible because of the foundations that Klopp laid down.
He had peak man city in his era klopp and literally went toe to toe with the oil machine and unlucky to come up against Madrid in Europe but again went toe to toe
You keep missing that Klopp was the only manager to beat the 1 1 5 and pep machine, Klopp deserves so much more credit because than he gets, we have seen top managers come and go in the league and not even come close not even Arteta got to the high 90 points to beat city. Klopp is a god in my eyes 🙏
It COULD be similar to Shankly/Paisley. THE THING IS THOUGH...It would be JUST THE SAME. Without Shankly...there IS NO PAISLEY. Without Klopp...A'int no Slot. Shankly TRANSFORMED the CLUB...ANFIELD...THE KOP...THE PLAYERS and THE FANS. Klopp came in and DID THE SAME. From Doubters...to Believers. That impact CANNOT only be measured in trophies. PRICELESS what Shankly and Klopp did. That's why EVEN TODAY, and despite winning More Trophies, Paisley isn't regarded as Highly as Shankly.
Klopp did so many brilliant things in so many aspects including his succession. Never saw a manager like him. Arne is doing great because he appreciates this.
As a Liverpool fans for yrs, I like what I am seeing how we are playing, our style change, but still have that Klopp energy going forward, So far, so good, it's early, So may it comtinues Lfc💯🤞🏿
@@SamsonA14 Only because of Van Persie. You really think that ageing players like Ferdinand (who would leave in 2014) Giggs (who would retire in 2014) Nani Carrick Evra (who would leave in 2014) Vidic (who would leave in 2014) Van Persie (who would leave in 2014) Darren Fletcher A past his prime Rooney Squad players like Anderson, Fabio, and Rafael. A Meme in Bebé And overrated average young players in Cleverly, Phill Jones, Chris Smalling, Adnan Januzaj, and Lindgard. You think that was a good sqaud?, 🤡 It was a shocking squad that Ferguson squeezed the last juices they had in them. The only good or decent players at the right age that Ferguson left for Moyes were De Gea Welbeck Kagawa Valencia Zaha (who Moyes didn’t even play and so he went back to Palace in 2014)
Having watched most of our games this season my conclusion is that Klopp bought the right players but wasn’t playing them in the right way. Slot's calmer style suits more of the squad as a whole. I didn’t think Tsimikas could improve his game but he looks first choice over Robbo right now and it was really important to find minutes for both Diaz and Gakpo and organise the front line and he’s done it
Stop the Slot vs Klopp comparison, it’s too soon to know anything when you are comparing a ten year tenure to not even half a season. Slot is doing a great job so far and he appears to be getting the potential out of the team, but that’s an easier job with the squad and stability he was handed compared to the rebuild Klopp came into and the fact he had to develop and adapt our style multiple times over the years while competing against a record breaking Man City
Such a culture these days of one good performance makes you a legend. That status of very good, outstanding and legendary is achieved via longevity. Klopp has managed two clubs renowned as being in the mix but not the best with lesser budgets than the best but got them to be the best, at points in time. Generally sustained a competitive edge every season at his previous clubs. Slot looks like he could be good, that’s as far as it goes for now. Klopp built this team and until his announced departure, we’re in a great position last year. No love for either manager but see it too often with players like Palmer, the guy looks unreal but he’s not great yet, takes time to earn that tag. I hope Palmer becomes great, good for England
This squad is Klopp's squad. Slot is doing a fantastic job but don't forget this! We should reserve judgement after he has brought a few players in and replaced some of the older players...
@@applenuts didn't bottle it last season, ran out of steam in a fight they weren't even supposed to be competitive in. If you don't understand the difference, you really shouldn't be commenting online and showing your ignorance.
Klopp done a great job over the years he’s a legend no doubt about it. I felt it was the right time for a change, but didn’t expect slot to start this fast 😮
Klopp came in to a broken team. He left Slot with a team capable of winning titles. Both men brings different qualities to the team and are great in their own ways.
@@DeesonJame this is the premier League mate not the Dutch league I like slot but he doesnt hit the ground running like this if Jürgen didn't leave him good team.
Goldstein is an idiot or he is just winding us up. Klopp built this squad, the culture, everything from top to bottom. Klop. Did all the hard work. Slot has been brilliant in realising that he doesn’t have to change too much.
Robertson for 8 million was steal. But iv noticed his pace has fallen alot. So I think another player on the left is needed. As a Liverpool you win nothing in November December. But if you keep winning you can make a buffer so keep winning and go 5 to 10 points clear and it's possible. I said Liverpool can quite go through there season and challenge but I never tought it would be like the way there winning. A big thing is injured players. If we keep all fit. We can challenge City and Arsenal. I'd love to see a league infront of our supporters at Anfield
this is TalkBullshit. not TalkSport. Klopp put Liverpool back on the football map. He helped rebuild the institution. He won the lot along the road. He stayed for one more year, beyond his exhaustion, to help rebuild another great team. He left that to Slot.
Slot has inherited a brilliant squad but we really musn't forget it was Klopp who built this team. Slot is merely a different manager, exactly what Liverpool needed at this time, but has done everything right so far. Perhaps with fresh eyes he saw some things Klopp might have missed like playing Gravenberch more... Luis Diaz was always class anyway!!!
it is crazy that klopp only won the league once but people will lfoget the margins were insanely tight city won the league twice by 1 point over liverpool both teams in that period were as good as each other really.
Slot is doing a fantastic job. Klopp came to us and gave us belief whilst building several teams.Arne has a long way to go, if he is going to join the pantheon of immortal managers. YNWA
If Slot wins the league with 80 points, does that mean he’s better than a manager that achieved 18 points more…. Sometimes winning the trophy doesn’t make someone better! The LFC team in the 96 era wouod have qualified for the CL and therefore would have had more money if it was 5-6 years later but the football they played was great at times and had some fantastic players. The success doesn’t necessarily mean better… Greece has had a better team than every single England Euro team… that’s of course not true is it, but they won it Winning does not mean better CR has never won the World Cup but is considered better than Hurst, Muller, Henry Success does not mean better
Ridiculous. Already slating Kopp? DO NOT forget that he BUILT the FOUNDATION for this team. WIthout him, the players would not believe they could achieve something. Look at some other clubs and see how they are doing now.
This is what Klopp Team Slot is using. If anything happens, it shows that Slott knows how to use what is there, but Klopp won everything with the team.
Uff the performances matter acc. To me. And I would still watch klopp ball rather than this, yes we are winning, but all we want is to win then better just support city, I like slot but klopp was and is better, would take him back in a heartbeat, even if it means we don't win anything.
Hilarious goldstein "the clown" so its klopps team he inherited , indeed but that doesn't mean nothing. Like saying when Rafa won the UCL in 05 he won it with hauliers team. Hauliers team was shocking . Diouf dio biscan cheyrou le tellec. Need i go on? Its all about the manager. Obviously the players have bought in to slots idea. And i love all these plebs on talkSh**e. Oh and we sold kevin stewart to HULL FC for a cool 8m... so basically a swap deal for Andy Robbo. What a deal that was fellas😂
It's gone from "Liverpool players are overrated, it's just Klopp keeping them together" to "Klopp left a fantastic team and Slot is just carrying on what he left behind". Talk about fickle.
Both can be true.
Klopp left a work in progress which could of gone either way after he left. Slot managed to fine tune it
People are like that. It went from "Klopp is the most important person at Liverpool" to "Klopp was holding the team back and he needed to go"
Everything is temporary
Haven't you heard.
We haven't played anyone yet.
Anything, and I mean ANYTHING to fit the narrative.
Shows you who & who not to listen to. There are a LOT of extremely poor pundits
The difference between Klopp leaving in 2024, to Ferguson leaving in 2013.
Is Klopp left a good side for Slot, while Ferguson left an ageing and average side for Moyes.
That’s the difference.
Chief executive left and moyes got rid of Fergies whole coaching staff were also massive factors
klopp FAILED in his last season with that good side, while ferguson WON THE PL with that average side. 1 PL in 9 years and slot will match that in just 1 year. some uncomfortable conversations will be had about how overrated klopp and how he much he underperformed.
@@NandoFIT-df8ly Put Pep’s Man City in Ferguson’s era and Ferguson wouldn’t have won as much.
@@NuMetalfan1996 lol remove pep's city and klopp will still finish second below arteta's arsenal in klopp's last season. with the same squad slot is now on course to win the PL.
even so, liverpool was not even 2nd consistently, they even couldn't consistently qualify for the champions league finishing 5th in 2022-23... behind ole's united in 2020-21.
sure keep overrating that bottler jurgen FLOPP
@@NandoFIT-df8ly How did Kopp underperform?.
Klopp was appointed when Liverpool were struggling outside of top 4.
Klopp was appointed to get Liverpool back to winning trophies, and won everything there was to win at Liverpool, minus the Europe League which is no loss at all, who really cares about that one.
Yes he could’ve won more, but Pep’s Man City seem to always find a way, put Pep’s Man City in Ferguson’s era and Ferguson wouldn’t have won as much.
Also it’s harder to win the Title now than it was back then.
Klopp didn’t underperform, far from it.
Lets not forget the job klopp did for this club!! He took this club over when we was on our knees so lets just stop with this disrespect
Klopp got us to 3 CL Finals in 5 years. Guy got us challengin on all fronts. Jurgen Klopp will be credited for returning Liverpool to the top.
Respect to Klopp for wearing his heart on his sleeve to recognise when to call time on his career with Liverpool. Klopp took us all on a journey from when he came to us to the heights we got to. Arne has inherited a mad squad and I hope he does us proud. YNWA ❤
I don't understand these comments suggesting that if Slot wins the league this season, it somehow makes him better than Klopp, or that it somehow diminishes Klopp's legacy. I've seen this narrative a few times and it's just mad. We don't look at Shankly and say "well yeah but Paisley won more".
I love klopp,but we did lose 3 European finals and the league by 1 point..Great manager but probably should have won atleast 1 more league and CL tbh...his achilles heel was low block teams..if slot can help us to beat those teams we probably will win the league
I also don't understand that narrative, but I think it comes from rival fans
@@courtneygardner64 missing out on the league by 1 point to a team facing 115 ffp charges is a little irrelevant tbh. I don't deny that for how good the team is/was, they could and maybe should have won more, but Klopp rebuilt Liverpool from the shadow they were of their former selves. I just think that Slots job, no matter how well he does, has only been made possible because of the foundations that Klopp laid down.
@@walluva rival fans sure, but I've seen pundits pulling at the thread too. You're right though, it doesn't come from inside.
He had peak man city in his era klopp and literally went toe to toe with the oil machine and unlucky to come up against Madrid in Europe but again went toe to toe
From Klopper to Slotter great to greatness!
You keep missing that Klopp was the only manager to beat the 1 1 5 and pep machine, Klopp deserves so much more credit because than he gets, we have seen top managers come and go in the league and not even come close not even Arteta got to the high 90 points to beat city. Klopp is a god in my eyes 🙏
Not like Liverpool don't cheat fella
@ I didn’t realise Liverpool was under investigation from the prem or uefa for fiddling the accounts 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
@@garymcgra when have they cheated and had charges bought against them? Oh that's right they ain't lol
Klopp will always be a king
It COULD be similar to Shankly/Paisley. THE THING IS THOUGH...It would be JUST THE SAME. Without Shankly...there IS NO PAISLEY. Without Klopp...A'int no Slot. Shankly TRANSFORMED the CLUB...ANFIELD...THE KOP...THE PLAYERS and THE FANS. Klopp came in and DID THE SAME. From Doubters...to Believers. That impact CANNOT only be measured in trophies. PRICELESS what Shankly and Klopp did. That's why EVEN TODAY, and despite winning More Trophies, Paisley isn't regarded as Highly as Shankly.
THANKS for that INSIGHT. MAYBE calm down with the CAPITALS.
Klopp did so many brilliant things in so many aspects including his succession. Never saw a manager like him. Arne is doing great because he appreciates this.
As a Liverpool fans for yrs, I like what I am seeing how we are playing, our style change, but still have that Klopp energy going forward, So far, so good, it's early, So may it comtinues Lfc💯🤞🏿
"It matters more what people think when you leave. " Klopp
The team Klopp left is so much better than what Wenger left at Arsenal of what Fergie left at United
Because he's a better manager 😂
How, that utd team fergie left were pl champions 👀
And Fergie personally chose the CHOSEN one.
@SamsonA14 they were all old and in 30s
@@SamsonA14 Only because of Van Persie.
You really think that ageing players like
Ferdinand (who would leave in 2014)
Giggs (who would retire in 2014)
Nani
Carrick
Evra (who would leave in 2014)
Vidic (who would leave in 2014)
Van Persie (who would leave in 2014)
Darren Fletcher
A past his prime Rooney
Squad players like Anderson, Fabio, and Rafael.
A Meme in Bebé
And overrated average young players in Cleverly, Phill Jones, Chris Smalling, Adnan Januzaj, and Lindgard.
You think that was a good sqaud?, 🤡
It was a shocking squad that Ferguson squeezed the last juices they had in them.
The only good or decent players at the right age that Ferguson left for Moyes were
De Gea
Welbeck
Kagawa
Valencia
Zaha (who Moyes didn’t even play and so he went back to Palace in 2014)
Having watched most of our games this season my conclusion is that Klopp bought the right players but wasn’t playing them in the right way. Slot's calmer style suits more of the squad as a whole. I didn’t think Tsimikas could improve his game but he looks first choice over Robbo right now and it was really important to find minutes for both Diaz and Gakpo and organise the front line and he’s done it
Stop the Slot vs Klopp comparison, it’s too soon to know anything when you are comparing a ten year tenure to not even half a season. Slot is doing a great job so far and he appears to be getting the potential out of the team, but that’s an easier job with the squad and stability he was handed compared to the rebuild Klopp came into and the fact he had to develop and adapt our style multiple times over the years while competing against a record breaking Man City
Such a culture these days of one good performance makes you a legend. That status of very good, outstanding and legendary is achieved via longevity. Klopp has managed two clubs renowned as being in the mix but not the best with lesser budgets than the best but got them to be the best, at points in time. Generally sustained a competitive edge every season at his previous clubs. Slot looks like he could be good, that’s as far as it goes for now.
Klopp built this team and until his announced departure, we’re in a great position last year. No love for either manager but see it too often with players like Palmer, the guy looks unreal but he’s not great yet, takes time to earn that tag. I hope Palmer becomes great, good for England
Agree. How can the fans start slating Klopp now already?
This squad is Klopp's squad. Slot is doing a fantastic job but don't forget this! We should reserve judgement after he has brought a few players in and replaced some of the older players...
Liverpool premier league champions 24/25 ❤
Bottle it again like last season
@@applenuts didn't bottle it last season, ran out of steam in a fight they weren't even supposed to be competitive in. If you don't understand the difference, you really shouldn't be commenting online and showing your ignorance.
@@applenutsUh huh ok then 🤡.
Klopp literally said it was the right time for him to leave 😂
Klopp done a great job over the years he’s a legend no doubt about it. I felt it was the right time for a change, but didn’t expect slot to start this fast 😮
Klopp came in to a broken team. He left Slot with a team capable of winning titles. Both men brings different qualities to the team and are great in their own ways.
But Liverpool haven't played anyone yet 😂
Would you rather klopp who took an average side from 8th to winning everything or spend billions and sit 13th
Slot doesnt have this success if jurgen didnt build him a team like this slot is lucky to have this sort of team straight from the start
He did the same with AZ Alkmaar and Feyenoord, with fairly average teams.
@@DeesonJame this is the premier League mate not the Dutch league I like slot but he doesnt hit the ground running like this if Jürgen didn't leave him good team.
It's Klopp squad...he took it to a near QUAD in his first season with them really...behave
If Slot wins Trophies this season it will likely be the biggest ones.
Robbo is like a greyhound,, Wins you things, them gets burnt out.. Absolute Legend, gives everything..
Goldstein is an idiot or he is just winding us up. Klopp built this squad, the culture, everything from top to bottom. Klop. Did all the hard work. Slot has been brilliant in realising that he doesn’t have to change too much.
Why is klopp still being compared let Arne get on with it ffs
6.23 nice one Goldstein for your correction 😂 Everythink
Robertson for 8 million was steal. But iv noticed his pace has fallen alot. So I think another player on the left is needed. As a Liverpool you win nothing in November December. But if you keep winning you can make a buffer so keep winning and go 5 to 10 points clear and it's possible. I said Liverpool can quite go through there season and challenge but I never tought it would be like the way there winning. A big thing is injured players. If we keep all fit. We can challenge City and Arsenal. I'd love to see a league infront of our supporters at Anfield
this is TalkBullshit.
not TalkSport.
Klopp put Liverpool back on the football map. He helped rebuild the institution. He won the lot along the road. He stayed for one more year, beyond his exhaustion, to help rebuild another great team.
He left that to Slot.
Slot has inherited a brilliant squad but we really musn't forget it was Klopp who built this team. Slot is merely a different manager, exactly what Liverpool needed at this time, but has done everything right so far. Perhaps with fresh eyes he saw some things Klopp might have missed like playing Gravenberch more... Luis Diaz was always class anyway!!!
it is crazy that klopp only won the league once but people will lfoget the margins were insanely tight city won the league twice by 1 point over liverpool both teams in that period were as good as each other really.
Klopp . Legend.
The man has done basically everything asked of him something ex managers couldn’t do let it go ffs
Slot is doing a fantastic job. Klopp came to us and gave us belief whilst building several teams.Arne has a long way to go, if he is going to join the pantheon of immortal managers.
YNWA
Keep the respect on Klopps name, think about the side he inherited, shocking
Calm down... We have a tough 4 to 6 weeks ahead. We get through then we can do well.
The guy didn't disrespect Klopp, he said he thought it was time for him to leave. Nothing wrong with having your own opinion.
Jurgen is an icon, a legend.
It was the right time for Klopp to leave LFC solely because he felt it was the right time to leave and he was right YNWA
If Slot wins the league with 80 points, does that mean he’s better than a manager that achieved 18 points more….
Sometimes winning the trophy doesn’t make someone better! The LFC team in the 96 era wouod have qualified for the CL and therefore would have had more money if it was 5-6 years later but the football they played was great at times and had some fantastic players. The success doesn’t necessarily mean better…
Greece has had a better team than every single England Euro team… that’s of course not true is it, but they won it
Winning does not mean better
CR has never won the World Cup but is considered better than Hurst, Muller, Henry
Success does not mean better
Ridiculous. Already slating Kopp? DO NOT forget that he BUILT the FOUNDATION for this team. WIthout him, the players would not believe they could achieve something. Look at some other clubs and see how they are doing now.
Calm down Freddy Kruger
We bought Robbo for £8m from Hull
This is what Klopp Team Slot is using. If anything happens, it shows that Slott knows how to use what is there, but Klopp won everything with the team.
Uff the performances matter acc. To me. And I would still watch klopp ball rather than this, yes we are winning, but all we want is to win then better just support city, I like slot but klopp was and is better, would take him back in a heartbeat, even if it means we don't win anything.
well too bad, Slot is here to stay and Klopp aint coming back
Liverpool will drift off at Xmas time when they play the better teams away !
We are liverpool ❤❤
Nah... Klopp left two seasons late.
Hilarious goldstein "the clown" so its klopps team he inherited , indeed but that doesn't mean nothing. Like saying when Rafa won the UCL in 05 he won it with hauliers team. Hauliers team was shocking . Diouf dio biscan cheyrou le tellec. Need i go on? Its all about the manager. Obviously the players have bought in to slots idea. And i love all these plebs on talkSh**e.
Oh and we sold kevin stewart to HULL FC for a cool 8m... so basically a swap deal for Andy Robbo. What a deal that was fellas😂
Arne Army
The "Slot machine " is already a Liverpool legend ❤
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Talksport just sack Alex crook he's so rubbish at is job he's holding the station 💯💯
Wait till they start losing
Liverpool vs Villa preview..
"What did you get from KENTUCKY?"
If you lot don't want to talk about the game, just don't mate.
This is embarrassing.
I bet 90% of these always mentioning klopp have never stepped foot in Anfield let the man have his success weirdos
CALM DOWN, WE WILL JUDGE SLOT WHEN HE BUILDS HIS OWN TEAM. THIS IS KLOPP'S TEAM
Most seasons Liverpool start well, then De Bruyne comes back from injury around Xmas and City take over and win the league.
De bruyne? Oh your definitely a kid with no football iq. City need rodri back more. How OBVIOUS 😂
@@Tomtomjameson man city will strengthen in january. they will get zubimendi and go on to win the league. How OBVIOUS 😂😂
@@stevenlee5146 Alright Steve with ya crystal ball 😂
@@stevenlee5146You burk 🤡.
City need to stop the goals against them first . They are leaking in a big way .
We will see.